classified documents, classified information seriously. when my lawyers were clearing out my office at the university of pennsylvania, they set up an obvious for me, a secure office in the capital for years after being vice president i was a professor at penn. they found some documents in a box, locked cabinet. or at least a closet. and as soon as they did they realized that there were several documents in that box, and they did what they should have done. the immediately called the archives, immediately called the archives and turn them over to the archives. and i was briefed about the discovery and surprised to learn that there were any government records that were taken there to that office. but i don't know what is in the documents, my lawyers have not suggested i ask what i've turned over the boxes, to the archives, we are cooperating fully, cooperating fully with

the review that i hope we will be finished with soon. there will be more detail that time. coming as the new -- sent letters to the white house counsel's office and national archives trying to get information on biden's handling of classified documents. i want to bring in senior political columnist, a political, jonathan martin. and cnn political commentator, carl finney, and david irvine is with us as well. i'm glad to have you all here, what are you thinking right now? because look. this is not the news or the way i think president biden wanted to start the new year or the new congress. i am sure there was a bit of rumbling, and the dysfunction that was happening with the republicans, last, week with the speakers vote. but, the fact of the matter is, he's got to contend with this. what do you take out of it? >> well, two things, one is the circumstances are different and obviously his folks called when they realize they had classified documents there, which is the right thing to do.

but, also that biden is not his best defender. he watched that clip there in somewhat circuitous, and obviously, this is going to create a challenge for him if for no other reason, and just because the republicans in congress are going to use this to money the old waters. look. that is what partisans do, they like to try this to undermine the other person's case by muddying the waters. and this gives people like home or a chance to do just that. >> there is ammunition and also in the fact that, look, karen he knew about it in november. why did he come sooner? >> november, the only reason that we know about the documents that were found at mar-a-lago is because donald trump itself couldn't keep his mouth shut and he made the announcement thinking that he was politicizing. politicizing it! because remember, it is doj protocol. and, as he would, not to protect the individuals were under investigation to protect

those of that investigation until it's been completed. >> so, again following the appropriate channel there is no reason after that that we should not. apparently -- >> did they know about? trump >> or that we should know about any department of justice investigation, at this. point but i do want to say, of, course republicans are going to try to muddy the waters and make -- i can't wait what david has to say about it -- >> he's already giggling. >> i will note that. >> but i will say -- >> this is going to be easy, this is gonna be easy. >> for those of us who do live in the fact base universe, the republicans, many of whom have had nothing to say when it was donald trump and hundreds of documents who are now falling all over themselves when we're talking about ten documents went with regard to president biden. the farther they go out on this, the question becomes, okay, so if that is how we're going to treat president biden, is that how we're going to treat donald trump? >> double standard.

>> i think it's the reverse, right? if that's how we're gonna treat donald trump, why don't we treat joe biden? that's what republicans are saying. why does biden get the presumption of innocence, the presumption of nights in this, the presumption of, oh this is happened to slip into his briefcase by accident, right? these tests i see documents where this personal in a file, about the, way so let's just remember what the reporting says so far that this fall has -- in it were such closely personal materials and the funeral arrangements for the. some letters of condolences. things, that like some staffer wouldn't be slipping around. that's joe biden's personal file. >> so wait? >> in that file, in that file, there's ts/sci material. clearly mishandled, right? so, listen, when trump and their documents found in mar-a-lago i, said look that is wrong, right. they should be, you know you mishandling documents is a big deal, right? so whether it is president trump or president biden it is a problem. >> but they, but you would admit that there's a huge

difference between having to relieve that under being under subpoenaed and concerns that the department of justice had that they were moving or possibly -- >> so, that was and is different. and trump was instructing and that was the case an allegation that trump was trying to obstruct. biden says, well, i don't know how they got, there? right shock, gambling in casablanca. i got classified documents. >> those have been there for months. why don't we know for months, right? >> well, let me ask you -- >> one more thing. >> i want to clarify, so unclear if what you're saying, it sounds like you are into baiting that the fact that it was within a file that was my personal that biden was the one to put them there, i saw what you're seeing? i'm >> saying, absolutely. well, i am assuming that the staff is in dealing with both biden's funeral arrangements and letters. >> you don't know that. >> i don't know that. but i'm saying that's the most personal intimate details of his son's death. i would think that the president or the vice president that would be dealing with that, not such a stafford, the second

thing is, look, how do we know that there's not more stuff in this house in delaware? i don't see the fbi visiting these places. this is what republicans are going to say. and then, finally, as you know, as a former prosecutor, the law has to be applied the same across the board, right? so now i think that merrick garland, a little bit of a pickle, right, a little bit of a pickle here? because what does he do now? if he goes after trump not biden, i mean the department of justice will just put a during partisan sign up on the wall flashing neon, right? and look the republicans now are saying that there is no hunter biden investigation, there's not joe biden investigation. but yet they come to mar-a-lago in the middle of the. night it looks a little suspect. >> let's bring jonathan into the conversation as well. because it is an interesting note -- >> yes you have to. you have. two specifically on this point. there has been the talking point that david is speaking about and there is a notion about the idea of, look, if marjorie taylor greene spoke about it, mike pence, the idea that if the department of justice does not treat donald

trump and joe biden accordantly than there's a problem. but there's also the reality that there is a divergent behavior, right? there has been one who is fighting, the idea of returning, and there's one who according to what we know, presently, this wanted to turn it. and like i said they all said that certain fences are very different between that. obviously i think that they also write that this is a great challenge for the department of justice and merrick garland that they do come forward with charges about the former president, you also have to take a look at the current president. i think that that is certainly a fair question that's going to be asked. i would, say this real, fast david mentioned, this in the passing about how there is no hunter biden investigation. that was also, we heard a lot about that after the raid of mar-a-lago. >> i don't understand that. because, my understanding is that there actually could be a hunter biden investigation. the u.s. attorney in delaware

are still looking at this. so, we might not know about all the details, but i think that still an ongoing question and i don't quite get why there's this sort of idea that hunter biden is being somehow left alone. he still faces some jeopardy, right? >> this is what, if something happens here, not there, right, a prosecution of donald trump but not joe biden,? right then it starts to look a lot worse for merrick garland. >> there is a difference between the law and politics. so, legally, one of the things that we know is that in both instances a process in procedure has been followed whereby the documents are being reviewed to determine the level of secrecy and potential harm to national security. then also, we, know that merrick garland has referred the biden case to a -- >> trump appointed. >> trump appointed, right. similarly, the trump documents

have been moved to a particular process. so, again we can play politics and muddy the waters. but, yes, it does put merrick garland in a already tough position and in a tougher position. but again i think that it's fair to say that he's not going to take any action until both of those processes have been completed and we know what the results are. it also seems though that with all that you're describing the idea in a word or two or three, -for-tat, that it is a perpetual cycle at that point. because you're saying that in order for this to happen, these reactions and reactions happening is there in and game where the republicans and you have the majority in the house. and you've got of course the committee chair. what is the angle frustration? >> the oversight. this is what we heard. this is what we heard going into this commerce, right? there's gonna be aggressive oversight, the weapons of destruction. that >> that's just one committee. >> but that's the review of the public, right? jim jordan and many others feel that there is the department of justice that has been

weaponized and they're gonna investigate it, right? it's all gonna get flushed. out so if you're merrick garland today you are saying that this is not another fact pattern for me to go up to the hill and tried to explain. one thing that all of us can agree on is that merrick garland's future is looking very different when it was supposed to be on the supreme court and justice karlyn would be having a much more scholarly life surrounded by clerks and the law then sort of the political hothouse that he's gonna find himself in for the next two years. >> anna, there on the microscope too. they're not pouring it out of the water at all. but i do take your point carrying every last word. >> no, i agree, i think that we have every indication that merrick garland is going to follow the law to the letter of the law. >> well, that's a of a lot worse. what we'll see, we'd like the glass half full but it is not -- and of course, the american people and national security is an issue. any of the classified documents

out there, i'm still wondering about who the custodian of records is that will be responsible for figuring out what is out, what's outstanding, and how to get it back. that's all part of the conversation. that's the next. story we've got some good reporters at the table. more in a minute and more on that very important point. i have just said and also do you worry about the impact that social media is having on our society? yes that's rhetorical. well so this one school district and tonight they are pointing the finger at big tech. they're filing a law school against them with the most popular social media platform. claiming that they have a negative impact on their students mental health. we're gonna talk about what tech companies are and are not responsible for, next. ♪ma ma ma ma♪ [clears throut] for fast sore throat relief,

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the owners of facebook and instagram, tiktok, snapchat and youtube. the district claims that those platforms have a negative impact on students mental health. getting in the way of schools being able to fulfill their educational mission. meta, which owns facebook as well as instagram tells cnn and in the statement that it continues to pour resources into ensuring its young users are safe online. with more than 30 tools to support teens and families. no other companies did not immediately respond to cnn's request for comment. dean colorado is an attorney representing seattle public schools along with the school district in the neighboring city of kent washington which joined the complaint and he joins me now. dean, good to have you tonight. a lot of people are talking about this lawsuit and especially about the idea of these platforms impeding the school's ability to, in the quote, fulfill its educational

mission. tell me about this particular avenue as a way to go at these companies. >> well good evening laura. thank you so much for having me on your show. i really appreciated. you know if you want to summarize this lawsuit, there is a mental health crisis among kids caused by social media companies. and these lawsuits in the for social media companies stop praying on kids and help schools pay for the mental health services that students now need because of the actions of the social media companies. so the technical legal claim is the public nuisance lawsuit. but the goal is outdated, and it's twofold, it's the number one to change the behavior about the defendants. and it's also to get the resources you need to obey the nuisance. in this case, you know the mental health issues that are confronting both the seattle public schools and the can school district. >> and in terms of abatement, if this is a successful lawsuit, is that what the money would go to if you were to win this

claim? >> yes, that is certainly the goal. >> well, you are looking at this and of course the word that comes to mind and as part of the criticism, obviously, in more broadly when it's directed towards social media companies there retort is often about on whom the onus falls. who is responsibility is it to monitor the use by a particular person of these particular platforms. and, they have said, in a statement, that they have developed more than 30 tools to support teens and families including the supervision tools that let parents limit the amount of time their teen spent on instagram and aid verification technology that helps teens have age-appropriate experiences. , and other platforms have of course put out safeguards to children. i wonder, with this lawsuit, based on that statement, why are those tools insufficient? >> well, i think what the seattle public schools in the

kids school district would say is that based on the results and the experience in their schools these tools are not adequate. they are not doing enough. you, know this lawsuit is targeting the algorithms and essentially how the social media platform is designed and operated and market their platforms particularly to children. and, these algorithms that are used by the social media companies push harmful content to children and are designed to hook kids and keep them on the platforms. these are the allegations and their complaints and that is a focus of this lawsuit and i understand that companies like to say it's up to parents to protect kids from social media but parents do not control the algorithm that are pushing the harmful material to kids. , and it's these algorithms and how the social media companies have the signed and operated their platforms that are causing these problems. >> i can't help but drawn analogy in my mind of the idea of big tobacco as it is sometimes thought of as related to what's pushed up on a child.

not necessarily an algorithm. but at one point, it was the targeted campaign to try and envelop a new consumer base and i wonder, even with the issue of what a parents responsibility is to control their child, access either on their phone or they're searching,, et cetera it almost sounds like even with the best intentions and best oversight of a parent, the lawsuit seems to suggest that the algorithm or the influence that these platforms will really over parts, that is that part of the premise? >> i think that's absolutely right i think that it is unfair and problematic to put the onus on parents and families that are out, they're quite, frankly trying to put up as many rush fires as they can and to avoid liability and responsibility for the companies that are making these products that are causing this fire. >> so, why wouldn't this --

>> so i would agree with you. >> so, thank, you why is this coming then if it's the idea of a parent being overwhelmed, rising coming from the schools as opposed to say a clash action suit by a conglomerate of parent? why is the school and the one in the district being the one pursuing this? >> because the impact of social media and the adverse consequences that are being caused or inflicted on children are directly impacting the school's ability to educate their kids. schools are constantly dealing with mental health issues. they're one of the primary providers of health services, to youth. and the demand is so vast and it is outstripping its resources that it means that schools have to divert resources in ways to address this problem. , so money that would go to libraries, science, labs math teachers and sports teams has to go, instead, to dealing and

providing support to these kids that are in crisis. >> are the rules to the school that could possibly and act to try to abate even without the sausage? nor does that part of the conversation miles ahead? >> i think that's part of the conversations ahead but it is, i mean, schools are doing what they can but you mention being overwhelmed and i think that that is certainly an analogy that applies to schools. and, so schools don't control the algorithm, they don't control the platforms, they don't control the programs and that is the problem. >> really fascinating we're gonna follow this litigation, thank you for joining and to help explain the premise of this, really important, thank you. >> thank you, or i really appreciated being on your show. >> thank you dean. >> well, up, next learn more about what's happening because you may recall that donald trump's longtime money man. , well ellen weisselberg is headed to jail for five months.

he was sentenced today for his role in a decade long tax fraud scheme. allen weisselberg turned state witness against the trump organization but the judge said that had he not already promised a five month sentence, he would've issued a stiffer one. this after hearing the evidence that came in a trial. weisselberg was the former president's chief financial officer and he admitted that he shouldn't pay taxes on off the book compensations, totaling roughly, $200.01 year. $1,000 in one year and that included a luxury of manhattan, to mercedes-benz leases and private school tuition for his grandchildren. and five months is obviously, by no, means the longest sentence handed down to a member of trump's universe. but, unlike several trump associates, tenants over the past few years, has no pardon and it's weisselberg will be

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now, tonight, police are still looking for the missing massachusetts mother on the walls. they turned up evidence that they think may be linked to her disappearance. sources are saying investigators found a hacksaw,

a turn of cloth material and, what maybe bloodstains wall searching through trash and a garbage transfer station. coworkers reported walls, a mother of three young kids missing on january 4th. now. her husband brian told police that he last saw her on the first day. he's being held in the charge of misleading a police investigation. sources alleged investigators also discovered that he searched the internet for information on dismemberment and, quote, how to dispose of a 115 pound woman's body. unquote. let's talk about it now with chris walker, former fbi seasonal director for the criminal investigation division. and cnn legal analyst, joey jackson. gentlemen, it's good to see. but, what a case this is becoming. unbelievable, really. i want to begin here with you, chris. because, as i just told everybody the investigators have found and searched a trash

facility. they found a hacksaw, ton of cloth material, what appears to be bloodstains. what is the significance of having the searches be completed? and where they have been completed? >> yes, i, mean to track this, guy is like tracking the bleeding elephant in the snow. he's leaving tools, and signs everywhere. i mean, he gave a very obvious false story to the police about when his wife supposedly went to washington. really, in order to delay the investigation and delay reporting her missing. he goes to home depot which is someplace that he said, during a time period, where he never left the house. any bias $400 worth of -- over $400 worth of cleaning equipment. and then, yet, he leaves a bloody knife in the basement and a huge blood spot in the basement. obviously, the investigators

are tracking some of his cell phone activities, they are tracking we -- may well have been tracking his car. for all we, know he may have been wearing your monitor. he was awaiting sentencing. then, as tlc art fraud case, a federal case pending and it was awaiting sentencing there. and when was even supposed to leave the house? so, the police and investigators are obviously doing some very interesting reliable information because they let him directly to some very damning evidence. >> yeah. and, early on that, point about the ankle bracelet, of course, being monitored, but also the behavior. i, mean you are a defense attorney in part. and a tremendous lawyer. this is not look good for the accused, even with the presumption of innocence. i wonder how you evaluate all that has come out in the press already. >> yes, laura, good evening to you. it is really a challenge, i believe, for what ultimately i

think they are building up to be. and i certainly hope not, with people holding out hope that potentially she is still alive. certainly, she is loved and has these precious little boys ages two, four and six. but they are, that is investigation and prosecutors building this up to be a murder case in the event that comes to that. and we could see that the what they are tracking. and the challenges of many. number one, as you, know laura, we constantly advise the defense attorney clients not to speak because that upsets a lot of people. in this instance, you heard his defense attorney saying that he was speaking. however, the things he was telling investigators were misleading. why is that relevant? because it goes to the issue of consciousness of guilt. if you're going to cooperate with authorities, right, you're going to cooperate and the hope would be that you'd give credible information. when you give information, which is untrue, with respect to my wife leaving for a ride chair when they do a cell phone triangulation to the home which shows that she did not leave, when you give the indication,

and otherwise, it was to the police that you know that your wife was leaving for washington, et cetera, and that proves to never leave the case because they're really significant -- deal matchup with the blood, et cetera, and what indications are that he wants to home depot. so, last point, lauren, that's this. this is all circumstantial evidence to be clear. but, as you, know from the outstanding prosecution that you are, circumstantial evidence is evidence, right? people don't generally commit crimes in the light of day work where everyone can see them. and, so, ultimately, go before a jury. and if it comes to, that you lay out all the pieces of the puzzle and boy does it look damning, at this, point with respect to the defense having to defend him, which will, from a missing case, right, which he's tried with now $500,000 bail to eventually, i, think could be a murder case. >> well, gentlemen, stick around because we still have more to talk about with the.

tonight, and also, both of you mentioned that this is a mother. so, she and they have three children ages two, four in. second they are currently in the custody of the massachusetts department family. so, what will happen to these children? we will follow as well. chris, joey, stay with me. because up next, virginia police say that the mother of a six-year-old boy could face charges after her son allegedly shot a teacher at school. yes. a six-year-old. the firearm was purchased by his mom. hey, man. nice pace! clearly, you'rere a safe driver. you could save hundreds for safe driving with libererty mutual. they custotomize your car insurance... ...so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty liberty♪ ♪liberty♪

the police chief in newport news virginia said that it is certainly a possibility, that the mother of a six-year-old could face charges after that child, allegedly, shot a teacher at school on friday. investigators said that he took the firearm from home and brought it in school in his backpack. then allegedly opened fire on the teacher who was shot in the chest through her hand. now she is in stable condition. back with us, chris soccer, and joe ejection. i mean it's hard to wrap your mind around this. chris, a six-year-old having engage in this behavior allegedly he was able to get the gun from home, put it in a, backpack and apparently conceal and carry some point throughout the day and then shoot his teacher, allegedly. i wonder, the idea of a six year old being capable of a premeditated shooting and killing, what is your thought? >> yeah my background was a state prosecutor before i went into the fbi and i see a lot of

difficulties in any type of prosecution here and i think that it is a pretty foregone conclusion that that won't happen. two young. unable to participate or meet the definition of incompetent -- competency in that he can participate in his defense. he wouldn't understand the nature and extent of the charges against him. i think there's other remedies here and i think that that will be pursued. but the parents of, i think the parents are gonna face the bar of justice and they are gathering the facts now. i think there's a misdemeanor charge and virginia which can be used to safeguard a gun. and i think there may even be some criminal gross negligence charge that might be applied here. so there is still some investigating going on but i expect to see charges here and the parents stand a pretty good chance of having charges to file, let's put it that. way before >> i get to you, don't, and i want to follow up

with you on. that but do you think the other avenues of accountability would be for a child like this? >> i think it would be more around some sort of counseling environment, sort of treatment environment that you carry whether the child would stay with the parent or the mother. i think it was a mother, not a set of parents. and i just don't see any possibility of any type of criminal accountability here. there is no place to hold the child in the virginia system. and i think, really, it's hard to imagine the type of event that child would form that can be held criminally accountable. >> it's sad to think about the fact that this is where we are right now. joey, as to the mother, in particular, the idea that there is the very real possibility of paraphrasing law enforcement at the point, what potentially might she be held to account for? and what could those charges be?

>> you, know laura, as you know there's a learned virginia that speaks to the issue of not recklessly leaving a weapon available so that it could be used or otherwise possessed by someone 14 or under. but, as chris noted, it's simply a misdemeanor, what does that mean? it means that it's only punishable by year. it's classified in virginia, apparently. class, 12, three and four. and so, what i think prosecutors will do here, laura, they will not only look to utilize that statute but to look for other creative ways to hold, right, the mother accountable. they will examine how reckless was she? how did the gun get into the hands of the child? how did it get outside of the home? how did it get to the child's backpack? i was it transported to the school? and how is that permitted? and i also think that the law itself that talks about the most demeanor simply -- and could endanger others. in this instance, it was far more significant. , so i'm looking to see what other statute prosecutors

multiplied that are more serious than that. potentially, felony level. such that there is an accountability because you could certainly foresee, laura, if a child gets a gun like this that terrible things like this could happen. thank goodness the teachers ally. >> and you are right to think about the idea of the deterrence aspect of laws and prosecution. as not to set an example for the sake of trying to target and condemn one but to prevent what happened from anything else. and chris this could've been far worse i mean the idea of a gun at school is a horror that we live to often in this country. and the teacher, i think goodness that she is stable and she is being praised for her response because even after she was shot in the chest through her own hand, presumably through a defensive trying to stop what was happening, she made sure that all of her students got out of that classroom safely. and i wonder, what you're, thought in terms of her being held at this point, a hero.

>> absolutely. i, mean her actions were heroic and in every sense of the world -- word. she took to the kids first, got them, out despite the fact that she was greatly wounded. and that was her first and only thought. and to look back to on the gun, itself, not only was the gun in the hands of the child but it was racked and ready and loaded. fully loaded. almost nine millimeters, you have to wreck the gun. and it's hard to believe that a six-year-old child would know how to do that, to have that thing ready to go in the backpack. i didn't mean to deviate from your thought. i don't want to take away from it. that teacher is an absolute hero. , and every parent, and every parent of child in the class of to be very grateful towards her for her action. >> but, chris, i'm glad you said. that we actually raised the point. joey, that does add the argument that you are making about what would be considered and thought of about the idea

of how would a child be prepared, and why the mother may be looked at, criminally, in this particular instance. that adds to those questions about law enforcement would surely be asking. >> yes, there is no question about that, lauren. i think that you really have to look to when you're examining this from a prosecution perspective. you, know as you know, there is a saying, law, that the risk of perceives as the duty for fines. what does that mean in english? certainly, it's a risk in the event that you leave a gun, right, that a child could get a hold. if that is the risk. you certainly would perceive a duty to safeguard that weapon. and, you know that it would be foreseeable that someone could be significantly injured. certainly, it's horrific that we would foresee this, right? this is just really incredible when we talk about a six-year-old that can get a gun into a school and use it against a teacher. and so, i think, to your, point that you raised in your question, i think prosecutors will be looking at that horrific risk. they will be looking at the

inability of the parent to safeguard the weapon. and they will be looking at the net effect on the result of that, taking a full circle and ending on this about the deterrence that you noted. you have to deter other people and other parents and show that you have to be more careful. these things can happen. they should happen. and i think prosecutors would invest in prosecuting the case, really, to demonstrate that we're taking it seriously, we're going to look closely at, and we're going to find a parent accountable who would permit and allow this to occur. >> chris, joey, thank you so much. i know that we're all thinking about the impact on the other children in that classroom and how this is impacting them as well. thank you both. >> up next, rap legend, doctor dre, in a legal spot with a controversial republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. so, what is it all about? we'll take a look or listen next. don't settle for silver. harness the power of 7 moisturizers & 3 vitamins

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vicks vapors for fast-acting relief you can feel. vicks vapocool drops. fast relief you can feel. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and the spat with rap legend dr. dre after his lawyers center a cease and desist letter for using his beat from the 2001 song, still dre, in her twitter video. now, twitter disabled her post but for context, just for context, here's a piece. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> he held up her phone. and on the phone, it said ditty, there it is right, they're on the phone. >> well, marjorie taylor greene was celebrating kevin mccarthy speakership victory, after of course 15 runs a vote. and a response, doctor jay said, quote, i don't license these

politicians, especially someone as devices and hateful as this one. and then green pronounced this response saying, quote, while i appreciate the creative cord -- i would never play your words and violence against women and police officer. in your glorification of the thug life and drugs. >> jonathan martin, karen phabian, dave intervenor back with. me, but she did play the music. >> listen, she just simple. did she -- everybody samples everything. >> she's an-itis? >> she's a creator. she's on social media. she sampled an artist. >> it's all about politics now with a days. but, it's, perfect because the beef, if you, will about folks like marjorie taylor greene is that they are more performing our tests than politicians. they do not roll their sleeves up or in trying to bring back the district. they are trying to create an identity that branded for themselves. until, daboll -- david stumbled upon a great insight here. >> what is the brand. >> she posted last night.

she's an artist. >> what brandishing trying to promote the? >> that, i cannot speak to. i believe that to david. and, actually, i would imagine that it is probably a staffer that has an excellent taste in music, the use that but when we talk about branding, this happens all the time, people get -- we use music and rallies that were not supposed to, use that were supposed to get permission. and, in this instance, though, for the musicians as you saw into a statement because you know he's dre -- >> well, he still dre. >> he is still dry. >> see what i did? >> yes, i love, it but you know, how magicians an artist don't want to be associated with certain brands and as you said i don't do politicians, so -- >> attempt evs court there was just the court there was no words and there was no -- >> but it was a loop. >> >> -- this is a long-standing story

because there is always these habits everywhere. >> every campaign and veritably, there's a cease and desist letter, and statement from everybody. >> whether it's republican or democrat. >> to a republican who is using it very greatly. >> yes, and it's very controversial. but this happens in every campaign. this is not totally new. what is new here is the fact that this is not even overplayed. it's over just the sample on social media. exactly, right. >> that's what i think that it becomes more problematic,? right trump actually, interesting lee enough, i believe that that is a record number of artists from across the spectrum that he got himself in trouble with. >> i have heard most of those. but >> that's the key word here, spectrum. because look at the list of people that we're talking about. if you're promoting the music, all of these people, you're talking about someone with a varied collecting playlists. , or you are trying to reach a very broad audience and hoping to associate that with the

favorability of that musician. which is why they don't. wanted >>, and if you've ever been to a trump rally and heard the playlist, it is exactly the. same >> well, trump saw himself as an artist of some sort. >> one of my favorite stories from the trump era, we actually have this in our book, it is trump and elton john. so when trump was going to campaign in north dakota for kevin kramer, in 2018 on the way there he asked then congressman kramer and he said what did alton draw? >> because, trump's david, knows he was the turn to our draw sir elton with every many and every -- he wanted to, know what story elton's game. was because he wanted to get. more he is a politician that sense. he was more of a performer,. notice >> if you've been to a, rally that's what it. was >> will tell you what, if that was the question that marjorie taylor greene asked, i think that the answer is, obviously, well, a super bowl. so, i'm just saying, you're not gonna be able to easily match the last year super bowl.

and of, course we're just a couple of weeks away from the next one. thank you everyone, thank you to our panel. sticking with me. , and i'm amazed by all of dr. dre knowledge of this panel. i would favor that, well, listen -- >> let's be honest, right? >> plenty of. rock we're ending that. it's not classic rock. thank you everyone for watching. our coverage continues. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: that's service that fits your schchedule. go to safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelitite repai, safelite replace. ♪

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