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frustrated after more airline chaos. the faa grounded all u.s. flights for about 90 minutes because of an outage of a system that sends critical safety messages to pilots. >> there are now more than 1,200 cancellations, 7900 flight delays. it's been less than two weeks since southwest's meltdown. flights have been gradually taking off. at this hour, it's not known what caused the system's failure according to transportation secretary pete buttigieg. he says there's no sign it was terror related. >> there was an issue with irre irregularities with the messages. we have to figure out why it happened. why it wasn't stopped from being
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disrupted and the original source of the errors. when there's an issue in the faa that needs looked at, we'll own it. same as we ask airlines to own their companies and operations. >> we're at the world's largest airport, atlanta's hartsfield-jackson. what's the situation at this hour? >> reporter: flight operations have resumed as normal for the most part. as you imagine, the airlines have to play catch up. there's been a huge domino effect from the faa ground stop earlier this morning. in fact, we're still seeing airlines delaying and canceling flights. i've been keeping track on flightaware.com. the number of delays across the country went from 7,000 to nearly 8,000. the number of cancellations is now 1,200. it's causing a huge headache for passengers. one guy told me he missed a
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funeral that was supposed to be held today because of a delay to new york. i don't have to remind you it was just three weeks ago we saw a snow storm basically create a massive wave of chaos at airports and with airlines. we saw that southwest airline meltdown. what we're seeing today not as bad, but again major problems after the faa had a system outage. here are some passengers. >> when my original flight was supposed to take off at 9:05 going from miami and then to costa rica, now we've been delayed three times. there's no flights today, tomorrow or friday. at the very moment our flight is set to arrive in miami after the flight takes off to costa rica. >> i thought it was a southwest issue again. luckily i noticed it was the faa
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issues. everyone is affected, not just us. >> reporter: it was a nationwide issue to be clear. now, even though the faa lifted that ground stop hours ago, it's still important that all passengers before heading out to catch a flight, check with your airlines before doing so. a lot of flight experts are saying it may take much of the day for flight operations and scheduling to get back to normal. guys? >> there at the busy airport in the world thanks so much. joining us now miles o'brien and richard quest. richard, the first thing i thought was was this a cyberattack. the administration says no direct evidence of that. is it too soon to rule it out? >> oh, yes. the secretary said no direct evidence. they won't be happy until they can say no indirect evidence and no evidence whatsoever.
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no, you can't take it off the table just yet. you can say it doesn't seem to be obvious it was. i'm looking at the faa's website. you can't see the system. it's seems to be down. the faa is modernizing the system to improve the delivery of safe, critical information to stake holders. the issue, if it's not cyber and it seems like it's not, then it's a question is why did it fail. the secretary is right. things will always go wrong. stuff will always happen. the reality is why did the whole thing collapse? what was wrong with the redundancy that should have protected it? >> miles, do you have thoughts on that? if it's not foul play or a cyberattack, what was the glitch? >> i'm willing to bet this glitch has something to do with the fact that the faa has been
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slow to modernize. we're talking about a system built in the 1950s and has been patched together with wire and duct tape. the faa has modernized fitfully and in starts over the years, in many cases for lack of funding. we have a system that is held together by virtue of the amazing performance of the air traffic control personnel against all odds. it's important in aviation that there's redundancy. that gives us safety. it's worth pointing out that this is not necessarily a safety of flight issue. the remedy for no notice to air missions is you stay on the ground. that's what happens. the flights in the air landed safely. ntams needs redundancy.
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the faa needs to look at this and look at the technology emerging into the satellite world after all these years. >> richard, we heard from a passenger and she thought it was southwest. another described her previous delays. this may not be the same cause, but it feels the same way when you're sitting at the airport. what does this mean for passenger whose have had a hell of a couple years? >> what it means -- you want the honest truth? >> yes. >> what it means is it's going to cost money. you have to think of the aviation infrastructure as the backbone of the economy, the modern economy. like railroads, like trucks, like roads. if you don't spend the money -- yes, they put billions in to make it safer, more efficient. the truth is you need to spend money and that means overhauling
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this entire system. >> that sounds like a big task. >> expensive. >> it sounds expensive. miles, back to what victor was referring to, we heard with southwest it was because they hadn't updated technology. if you're saying it's a glitch because since the '50s they haven't updated technology, what are we looking at? it seems like it should be item number one on congress' to-do list. >> you would think. i would submit to you that the united states collectively doesn't do infrastructure very well. it's no different than crumbling bridges or potholes or pick your public works project that's in disrepair. we don't invest the way we should to keep our systems up to snuff. we had systems post-war which were the envy of the world and we're running on vapors. the faa is a system which could
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use more attention to enter the space age. it's still in the 1950s age. we're still waiting for radar to look for airplanes when we have satellite technology that can do it instantaneously. this problem is part of that whole big picture. if you want the safest system in the world, which we do, you need to continue investing in it. >> miles, richard, great talking to you. thank you for the expertise. not sure i feel any better, but we understand better. more heavy rain and potential flooding are threatening parts of california as another wave of powerful storms pushes in. about 5 million people across the state are under flood alerts. at least 17 people have been killed. rainfall is 600% above average. >> crews are busy clearing flooded neighborhoods after yesterday's downpours. near los angeles, 4 people were
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stuck 15 feet underground. look at your screen. this was a sink hole that swallowed their cars. some homes and cars in monterey county remain under water. veronica miracle is in san francisco. seems like there's no relief in sight? >> reporter: that's right. where we are we're standing on a roadway, half of it completely covered in mud and debris. it's a good example of what's happening all over the state of california. big picture-wise over the last two weeks there have been five at atmospheric events. because there's no relief between the storms and we're getting battered with a fire hose of rain, there's no opportunity for the soil to dry up. you see all this dirt fall on to
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the roadway. trees have been up rooted. vegetation has been washed away. the soil is straight mud now. everything is completely drenched. it's creating -- this is limited to this roadway, but in other parts of the state in northern california, central california, southern california, there have been incredibly dangerous situations where people have been overtaken by flood waters. there's been 17 deaths because of trees toppling on cars and also people being swept away, including a 5-year-old boy who was swept away in flood waters. all these creating dangerous situations. i want to show the shear force and the magnitude of these storms. it's raining here and not too significant right now, but you can see how much the ocean and the waves are being impacted. all of this is happening after years of historic drought in the state of california. the reservoirs are filling up and the snow pack is
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significant, reaching an historic level. that feeds about 30% of the reservoirs. after years of drought, that is important. it is sit. on the eastern sierra over at mammoth mountain they've had four and a half feet of snow. it's important for a state like california that has been dry for so many years, but at this level and pace, it's dangerous. >> it's impossible to start to clean up and recover because there's more coming in. that's been a problem for sometime. veronica, thank you. house republicans are wasting no time with their new power and putting pressure on the biden family. president biden says he's surprised at the discovery of classified documents in his former office. local republican leaders in new york want the truth-challenged congressman george santos to resign. cnn caught up with santos.
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president biden's old office. the oversight committee has launched an investigation. >> now bipartisan leaders of the senate intelligence committee are requesting access to the documents. president biden says he was surprised to learn that documents from his days as vice president were still in his office. jessica dean is on capitol hill. jessica, what are lawmakers saying? >> reporter: today we're hearing from the senate intelligence committee that the top ranking members on there, the democrat and republican, are calling for the dni to give them more information on these documents. they want a damage assessment on what it means that they were out there. this is very similar to what they did, in fact it's the same, as what they did after the mar-a-lago documents were found with former president donald trump. republicans are eager to pounce on this. house speaker kevin mccarthy saying that democrats have to
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eat their words, is what he said, on this issue. then hearing from house democrats as well who say these are two different issues. biden and his team handled this differently than trump. they should be looked at in different ways. that's what we're hearing on the hill. more to come. the senate is out right now. we'll hear more when they get back in. >> let's turn to republican congressman george santos. what do you call him truth challenged? >> truth avoiding. >> nassau county republicans are calling for him to resign, jessica. they want him to leave because of the lies about his resume, his personal life. let's listen. >> he's betrayed the public's trust and given insincere, glib and insulting answers when asked legitimate questions about his finances and his background. by all accounts he seems incapable and unwilling to take
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full responsibility for his lies and fabrications. mr. santos, haven't you done enough harm? i call on mr. santos to immediately resign. >> so you caught up with congressman santos. what did he say and what are his gop colleagues saying? >> reporter: i don't think it's going to surprise either of you, he didn't say much. he came out of his office right about the time the nassau county gop was calling on him to resign. i'll let you see how that went. >> will you resign? >> i will not. >> new york republicans are calling you a disgrace. >> you will not resign? >> reporter: you can see he wasn't willing to answer any questions except saying he would not resign. he's doubled down on that on twitter. we're learning that he asked to be placed on the very powerful financial services committee which kevin mccarthy says is not
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happening, but it remains to be seen what house gop leadership is going to do about santos. we know they've said they want to handle it internally. we know that two new york democrats within their delegation have filed an ethics complaint against him. things are in motion here. it remains to be seen what is going to happen. will he get placed on any committees? he says he's not resigning as you saw right there. it remains to be seen what happens moving forward and interesting and worth noting, on the subject of committees, that's being hashed out right now. the steering committee is meeting to decide who will sit on what committee. two of the mccarthy hold-outs getting plum assignments after they came over and agreed to support him. we're seeing concessions play out today as well. >> that is really interesting. he wants to be on the financial services committee, though brazil is trying to get him back
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to sentence him for forging checks. >> there are plenty of questions about his financial disclosures. >> reporter: r100%. that what this ethics committee is going to focus on, his financial disclosures. the irony is thick. dan goldman joins me now. congressman, i'll get to your request for the ethics investigation. let me read what congressman santos said on twitter. i was elected to serve the people of new york's 3rd. i remain committed to sdoing tht and regret to hear that local officials refuse to deal with my office to get results. i will not resign. steve scalise says the conference is going to handle this internally. i know you want him out. do you think he'll be able to survive this? >> well, i don't know if he'll
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be able to survivor not. i think the issue is whether the republican party is going to stand up to him and to say that we'll not have a self-avowed fraudster in our party or will they continue to wrap their arms around him. the fact of the matter is his lies deceived the voters. when he says on twitter i was selected by the voters, that is correct, but through deception and fraud. that's the problem. i'm very proud and happy to see that republican party chairs and other members of congress are also calling for him to resign because this should not be a partisan issue. this is simply someone who deceived his way into a seat in congress and is not fit to serve
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and should not be here. >> short of resignation, you working with congressman richard torrez who filed this complaint in calling for an investigation for violations of the ethics and government act by failing to file timely and complete financial disclosure reports as required by law. more than just the accusations of lying, you're say he committed a crime here? >> well, what we're asking the ethics committee to focus on is the one area we don't have real transparency into, which is his campaign finances and his financial disclosures. i can tell you as a former prosecutor there are a number of red flags. how did he give $700,000 to his own campaign when the previous year he disclosed a salary of $55,000? there are numerous questions and even some of his statements have
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indicated that his financial disclosures were false. the ethics committee investigation will focus on his finances, not on his litany of lies about his education, his professional experience, his religion and other things he used to deceive voters. i wonder, and i expect, that the federal prosecutors in brooklyn will be looking at his finances to see if he committed campaign finance fraud. george santos, if he's not going to resign, should cooperate fully with the ethics committee and provide all the documents and materials underlying his campaign finances and his financial disclosures. if he truly did nothing unethical, then the ethics committee will give him a clear pass and he can move on. if not, he should be held accountable. >> let's talk about the documents found at president biden's former office.
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the u.s. attorney has submitted a report to the attorney general. i want you to listen to speaker mccarthy on democrats' reaction and response to this discovery. >> hypocrisy. think about this. they got away with so much for so long. they think the law doesn't apply to them. they think they write their own. that's what infuriates the american public. america believes in fairness and honesty and that's not what we're getting. >> the trump discovery at mar-a-lago, the biden discovery, the details are different. we understand that. there is a special prosecutor overseeing an investigation into the trump documents. do you think there should be one -- one is necessary for the biden document discovery? >> no, not based on what we know. if donald trump had turned over the 15 boxes of materials from mar-a-lago that contained
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classified information right after he was asked for them, then i'm sure there would not be an ongoing investigation. the fact that he refused to turn them over voluntarily, he refused to turn them over pursuant to subpoena, that required the department of justice and get a search warrant in order to obtain more documents, gives probable cause to believe he was intentionally concealing those documents for some illicit purpose and he was obstructing justice. on the other hand -- >> let me ask you about the joe biden discovery. >> joe biden found the documents. >> in november. >> yeah, and he immediately the same day in november notified the department of justice as you would want anyone to do. >> what about notifying the american people? this president committed to transparency, especially in the arena of national security. why did this come out through a
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report two months after the discovery at the white house? should the president and white house have disclosed this when they found them? >> these are classified documents that they did not to be there. you don't go out and talk about classified documents as soon as you get them. you have to go through the proper procedures, notify the proper authorities and make sure there's a proper damage assessment to correct it. the issue here is intent. did joe biden intend to conceal those documents? did donald trump intend to conceal those documents? there's zero evidence joe biden intended to conceal those documents and there's excessive amounts of evidence that donald trump tried to conceal the docu documents. for what purpose, we don't know, but it's not a lawful purpose. >> understood, but the white house could have disclosed that in november when they were found. congressman dan goldman, thanks for your time. classes resume at the
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victims explained his reaction to some of the court documents. >> i just broke down and i just cried. i could only take so much of that and i just -- i cried. i still haven't read the rest of it. >> cnn's josh campbell is with us from moscow, idaho. students are now back in class. maybe the danger is off the street if this is the man who committed these crimes. still, it has to be a tense, scary time there. >> reporter: it is, victor. we're hearing a range of emotions from students here as classes have resumed. some students saying this incident shattered their sense of security. this incident changing the way some of them operate. some students saying they go out in groups as they're out and about. they want to be around others. as they grieve the loss of their
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four classmates, we're hearing from students, parents and faculty that there's a sense of relief that the suspect in this case is now behind bars. take a listen. >> when i heard the news, i was sitting with my family watching the report. we all looked at each other and were like, well, they got somebody who they think did it. i breathe a sigh of relief. sure my mom did the same. >> we realize people are still dealing with this tragedy in a very individual way. we're trying to be responsive to that. most of our students have kept their registrations as they were, which is largely in person. >> reporter: now the university provost also told cnn that security at the university will remain at a heightened state for the time being. as for the suspect, 28-year-old bryan kohberger, he'll be back in court tomorrow where we hope
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to hear additional information about how the criminal prosecution will resume. his attorney says he expects his client will be exonerated. kohberger facing serious charges including four counts of first degree murder. here in idaho that sentence could include the death penalty. guys? >> thank you, josh. it's been a week since anna walsh has been reported missing. police have charged her husband with misleading investigators. in 2021 letter to a judge, walshe said he was not a threat to members of society. >> police are testing a hacksaw, torn up cloth that appears to have blood on it. investigators tested materials from the home of brian's mother.
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let's check in with jennifer. jennifer, let's talk about this brian walshe case. ana has been missing for a week, ten days. they've found a bloody knife, hacksaw, bloody cloth, blood stains in the basement, $450 worth of cleaning supplies. he's made misleading statements. what would it take to charge this guy with murder at this point? >> they could charge now probably. they have the probable cause to prepare an affidavit to support that. what they're looking for are dna results. they want to see that that blood on that hatchet, on that knife, on the other things actually belongs to ana. they also want to see if possibly brian also has dna. it would be perfect if it was
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co-mingled in terms of a strong case to build against brian for committing this possible crime. >> let me read more from this letter related to the 2018 case. he wrote it in 2021 regarding the fake warhols. he wrote, quote, i'm in continued service to my wife, sons, mother, mother-in-law, business partners and community charities in the state. he has not been charged, but what we learned about him, this clearly does not hold up. >> no, so true. most of that is boiler plate that any defense attorney probably put together for him and had him take some integrity courses to try to get home confinement pending his sent sentencing. clearly that's not the picture of the man being painted in this
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case. >> jennifer, i don't know if you can see the screen. i want to show the picture of brian walking out of -- it's either court or the police department. i think it's after his first court appearance. it's not when he's walking in. when he's walking out of court, i'm so struck of his expression. he comes out and sees all the cameras and has this grin on his face. he greets them with a smile. his affect is very strange. is there anything you see with your investigative hat on? >> well, certainly. anyone who is capable of committing a crime like this and i take also from the different searches he did. he searched how to dismember a body, how to dispose of a 115-pound body. this is somebody with truly
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psychopathic and narcissistic traits, anyone that could do a crime like this. this sort of smug, arrogant smile, straight into the camera, would be indicative of somebody who could commit a crime like this. >> the discovery of a hacksaw, if that is related, is an especially passionate, intimate way to kill, if indeed he's responsible. jennifer, thank you for your expertise. fda vaccine advisers are angry. they say they weren't given important data about moderna's omicron booster. what information they say moderna kept from them next.
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today the biden administration renewed the covid-19 public health emergency. why is that necessary? joining us now is white house coronavirus coordinator dr. jha. doctor, thank you for being here. is this because the new subvariant is so transmissible? >> it was a determination by the secretary of hhs. there's still a lot of covid out there and the public health emergency gives us tools to fight this. the secretary made a decision that the tools are still necessary to continue to fight this virus. >> dr. jha, i want to ask about new information that cnn has learned about the omicron booster that so many of us were encouraged by even you to get back in the fall because it sound like new information has come to light that moderna, the
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manufacturer of that booster, did not give the committee the full and complete data and information. in fact, it appears the updated booster that we all got was not anymore effective at preventing omicron than the original booster. that's different than what we heard. were you mislead? >> no. first of all, obviously we believe in transparency. very important for companies to be sharing full set of data. we're talking about a different vaccine. the one that is out there now, the one that the fda authorized, the ba.5 one that's available to all americans for free, the evidence that that is superior to the prior vaccine is incontrovertible. that evidence is very, very clear. there are now at least five high quality studies that sedemonstre
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that. there's no question the current vaccine available is better than the old vaccine. on the moderna issue, we believe moderna, every company when they report to the fda, should be presenting all the data. >> dr. paul offit, a member of the vaccine advisory committee, says he's angry about what happened. he said, i was angry to find out there was data we didn't see. decisions have to be made on all available information, not just some information. why didn't moderna present that? >> that's a very good question. i don't know what was presented, what moderna chose to present. i will say that's a question for them. obviously we believe that this is a process -- this advisory committee, the fda runs. full transparency is very important. it's part of the scientific integrity that gives confidence
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to the american people. the data that's emerged since that time period, the data we have now, incontrovertibly better than the prior vaccine. >> i want to make sure because in this same report from cnn, they say what the data showed when moderna didn't present it all, it found that 1.9% of the study participants who received the original booster became infected with covid. among those that got the updated vaccine, a higher percentage, 3.2% became infected. are you saying that's what we have currently or that was the original one? >> what we have is a different one. i don't know all the details of that specific report. what i can say is that the data that is emerging in the last three months with the new vaccine, it's really not a close call. it's why i recommended it to my family and friends and to
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americans. the bivalent is clearly superior and is better at dealing with variants circulating right now. >> i'm encouraged to hear that. you can imagine, dr. jha, how this gives fodder to the vaccine s skeptics who say they're not fully transparent. they just tell you what they want to know. >> exactly. without knowing the specifics of what was presented at the meeting. the principle of openness, transparency, very important. this is why we track this stuff very closely. fda does, cdc does and the white house. the current vaccine is superior. it's not a close call. i understand dr. offit's concern and agree more transparency is
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clearly sentiment on main street is pretty crummy. an overwhelming majority of these community bankers, they're saying not that they think a recession is coming, p. >> right. >> but they believe the economy is already in recession. their top concern is not surprisingly inflation is at the top of the list, and they say regulation, worker shortage, and it's important you can get 96% of people to agree on anything, given all the uncertainty, and it's worth noting the u.s. economy is not officially in a recession. >> they're basining it on something, right? >> they are on the front lines, but there are a lot of bright spots, right? unemployment, tied for lowest level in half a century. people are still shopping. we get a big update on the number one problem in the economy, inflation, tomorrow. it's expected to show that consumer prices in december, still very high, but cooled off for a sixth straight month, moving in the right direction. >> so tell us -- i keep hearing about this potential for a gas stove ban, and i know you have
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some new information that. >> yeah. so this is really getting a lot of attention. the stories blowing up online. i think a lot of people have the same reaction that i did, which is, wait. i have a gas stove. i have kids. i'm pretty sure the kitchen is my 3-year-old's favorite room in the entire house, so the fact there's this research out there that is linking gas stoves, to asthma in kids, and now the official from the consumer product safety commission set off this controversy earlier this week by suggesting his agency could ban gas stoves. i talked to him today, and he said that everything is on the table when it comes to addressing these health concerns, but stressed the importance of this. listen to what he said. >> we are not looking to go into anyone's homes and take away items that are already there. we don't do that. if and when we get to regulation
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on a topic, it's always forward-looking. it applies to new products, and so consumers always have the choice of what to keep in their homes and we want to make sure they do that with full information. >> now he told me that there are things that people can do right now if they are concerned. he said, one, make sure that the exhaust in your gas stove is actually vent ed to two outside the home and not inside. open a window, and for people who want to switch from gas stoves to electric, the inflation reduction act actually offers a rebate of up to $840 to make that switch. >> good to know. >> thank you, guys. >> thank you. travelers coast to coast are dealing with thousands of cancellations and delays right now because of this morning's nationwide airline ground stop. we have the latest for you next. could be a sign that your digestive system isn't at its best. but a little metamucil eveveryday can help. memetamucil's psyllium fiber gels to trap and remove the waste that weighghs you down
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