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tonight. -- how do you solve a problem like george santos? he was only sworn in a few days, ago but the republican congressman lied about, well, where he worked, where he went to school, about being jewish, remember what he said what he meant was to-ish, now he is in hot water with representatives of his own party back in his own state. i will talk to two new york republicans are now calling for him to resign. has it cost from just, uptown it gets much louder, while the congressman is trying to shut it down by saying this. >> i will not. >> he will not. well, also another batch of classified government records found by joe biden's legal team, that is after the initial discovery of his classified documents. i just want him office in washington in november. so, where were these new documents found, and what isn't
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them? frankly, how long have they known about this set of documents as well? plus, republicans allege that powerful conservative, match lap, sexually assaulted him while he was driving him back to atlanta hotel before the midterm election. schlapp's attorney denies this claim. but we will have the very latest on this developing story this evening. a lot to talk about tonight, so i want to bring in, begin with the calls for george santos to resign his seat in congress. and those calls are coming from inside the proverbial house. including, from my next two guests, who are both new york state republican lawmakers. state senator jack martin's, and state assemblyman ed raab. gentlemen, welcome to the program this evening. listen, everyone has been talking about congressman, now george santos, he of course has been sworn in.
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he is a member of the house of representatives. but both of you have been calling for him to resign. so far, he says he will not. state senator jack martens, i want to hear from both of you, what if he continues to defy the call to resign? what do you have to force him to do anything? >> look, we have the will of the people. i know that their investigations, not only criminal investigations, here in new york. there are federal investigations that i
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understand that there was an ethics complaint filed against him today. so there are multiple avenues where santos will be called task. [inaudible]. >> many are wondering, is there still something that you can do, either at the state side or the federal side to try to oust him from his seat? >> i think congress, as they undertaken investigation with the ethics claim, i know they have procedures for that. but i think this time goes on here i would hope that george santos starts to realize that it is just not possible for him to be representative of his district with this hanging over his head and without the trust of the constituents, and the trust of his colleagues in congress. >> it is quite a cloud, that is undeniable. you actually campaigned with him i understand, and i am wondering during those conversations you undoubtedly had, did you sense
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any red flags? were their moments where you thought something is not adding up? or was he really able to be as effective as he seems to have been to pull the wool over everyone's eyes? >> i mean, it has been out of street fairs, community events, things like that with george. nothing really has never raised any red flags. he's a friendly guy, happy most of the time, nothing really with any alarms. i am a shocked as any when these allegations all came to light and they turned out to be largely fought. >> senator martin, there are rumored favorites out there in the event that santos does decide to resign from congress, although this evening he saying that he will not. we all know that things can change in pressure campaigns have a way of incentifies-ing ones departure whether it happens here or not, i don't know. but if you are one of these rumored favorites which i hear that you
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are, would you consider trying to have and hold that spot? >> laura, thank you. that is a conversation that we will have at a later date. it is certainly a conversation that i have to help with my wife and my children. a big commitment going to washington. but i am focused right now on my constituents representing the seven senate districts in new york and certainly willing to have that conversation later when that time comes up. but frankly a lot has to happen between now and then. >> and of course he would have to vacate that particular office with some respect. there was a press conference today, and at that press conference we learned that constituent calls in santos's district, the actual calls are coming from the average person, they are going to be redirected, not to anyone in washington d. c., but to representative anthony's
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office. i'm wondering, is the cold to essentially cut him off and not have him have access to his constituents? because mccarthy seems to think that he can do nothing until the people of your district speak. >> i don't want to speak for any other elected officials. but i think when a call comes to our office, and we understand that people don't always -- we do the best to help them. and i think the point is that it is difficult. we don't have those relationships with any staff over there. frankly, there has been no attempt from our staff, so we will do what we can do by utilizing other federal representatives to make sure that we help our constituents. >> are you getting a sense about how the constituents are feeling about this? i mentioned it being a cloud. you both have explained the way in which this has an impact on the viewpoint of congress more broadly. but i
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am wondering, when you combine the set of lies, and i want to remind the audience what we are talking about. i have a full screen about the kinds of things he has lied about from his resume, to his grandparents surviving the holocaust, having lost employees at the nightclub shooting, to his 9/11 claiming his mother's life. there is a whole slew of things that we are talking about here. you add on to that, state senator, that he's being accused of using campaign funds to pay personal expenses. there are big questions about the source of the $700,000 that was lent to his campaign. there's a lot to be concerned about. do you share the latter concerns in terms of who is putting some of these bills, and about the use of funding? >> of course. laura, look. there are campaign finances for a reason. we have to be completely transparent when it comes to identifying who are donors are, and certainly to the extent that there were $700, 000, for all intensive purposes, it is unaccounted for, it just
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goes to add to the list of things for which george santos is responsible for. unfortunately, he has become a punchline, it's a joke, and to answer your first question, i have heard from hundreds of constituents. i received emails from hundreds more. people who are concerned about the ability of their u. s. representative to actually be effective. so that has become the backdrop behind which we have to work. we will continue to do our part. we will continue to do what we can to support our constituents. but at the end of the day, santos have to step down. >> jack martin's, thank you so much. i want to turn now to that very discussion about the idea of effectiveness, not just
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about what would happen if he resigns or not, but about what the process is going to be like from washington d. c. as well. here with me in studio tonight, former republican congressman joe walsh, cnn political commentator ashley allison, and cnn national politics reporter eva mckend. nice to see you all here this evening. first of all, the list of things that he has lied about, or has accused, or allegedly lied about, but he's admitted to many of them, it is growing. and yet, you do not have a full throat it response from speaker mccarthy who is saying look, this person should not be in congress, cannot be in many committees, not being on the top committee is. but tell me, why is there not a full condemnation of santa's by his republican colleagues? >> his republican colleagues on capitol hill, it is a much different tonight as you can hear from the republicans in the district, in the state. what we have seen here in washington is that phase can change very quickly. it was just last year when there was a
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question whether or not congressman matt gates was going to face any criminal charges. now, fast forward a year later, we were all looking at how consequential he ended up being in the speakership vote. so, i think as troublesome as some members might turn out to be, kevin mccarthy is on thin ice. only will take one member, those are the rules he agreed to, one member to trigger a vote that could potentially oust him as speaker. so it doesn't really matter from a purely political perspective how unsavory someone turns out to be. he cannot afford to alienate or marginalize any of his members. >> the idea that obviously mccarthy knows the math, even when things don't add up, still having to make the concession, not just the broad rules package concession, but the idea of saying the people can decide. they chose to be that member of congress. but there is a moment where he talks about the decision. and i can't help but think, the people didn't get to decide on this person, they decided on, in
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many respects, whoever was created by this candidate? >> i think people should get to decide based on facts on all the fiction that santos has put forth when he was running for election. it is not just his votes for speaker, it is his votes across the entire caucus. the margin of victory for republicans in the house is so slim for every vote to have this seat become vacant and go into a special election in new york could potentially, the voters could show up and it could go to the democrats. then people would want kevin mccarthy to walk the plank for sure. or whoever is the speaker. i appreciate the republicans in the county saying, in new york saying we don't care about the politics of it. our constituents deserve real, truthful representation. they know the math in washington d. c. also. they are also picking people over politics while many in the house caucus are not.
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>> i wonder how much they are trying to preserve that seat, right? a couple more months, two years of george santos, they will never be viable in that ever. so i don't know how much -- it may be just worried about political viability in the future. >> imagine that? it's self serving reason in politics. >> mccarthy wants his vote, and wants his seat, and love story. i wouldn't be surprised if they already cut a deal that he won't run again in two years and just kind of keep your mouth shut as long as mccarthy has his vote and seat. when you are running through that litany of lies, it just kept hitting me in my head how unsurprising this is. i mean, mccarthy, congressional republicans are in a bind as well. how can they condemn and demand george
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santos for lying when donald trump is the leader of this party? we never had a politician in the history of mankind who has lied like donald trump has lied. >> i will continue, but there is a moment where he says that there is a answer to the question on all of the lies that we have seen on the screen. mccarthy says a lot of people in congress have fabricated their resume, and is that the standard we are talking about right now? if your point is lying makes you a political pariah, it is only for santos so far? >> trump is the leader of the party. he is the liar he is. the other thing that jumps out is, there is no shame in the republican party in the age of trump. santos is not apologizing. he is not saying he's sorry for anything. he is
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punching back constantly. >> the thing that's interesting, you lie about your grandparents, or grandparents being killed in the holocaust. nightclub shootings, losing staff, 9/11, these are iconic moments in our country's history. so i am not saying a big lie, or a little i, one is better than the other, a lie is a lie. but the things that he's lying about her almost unnecessary to have a part of your resume to become an elected official. nobody expects you to be a descendant of a holocaust survivor to serve in congress. they expect you to acknowledge the holocaust happened, but the funny thing about you saying donald trump is, the reason why this is a lot of this party is because after mccarthy's
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elected, he is the main one saying that we can't undermine, or how important donald trump was in this. he's still -- >> let's be clear. there are republicans who are calling for santos at the very least not to be able to be put on committees. there are some calling him a threat to the committee. a democrat from new york was talking about even the idea of he should at least have a full background check because of the sensitivity of what a member of congress is able to see. in a way, doesn't this point to the fact that so often we have these loopholes in the law from what we think is illegal, what ought to be illegal, and what is actually illegal. this is a loophole, if the only way to get him to leave is you have to volunteer to step down. is that a direction that they will go in next?
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>> it is you have to see at least two democratic members of congress, who have indicated that it should be, i think it is called santos, to actually say it can't happen again. some of those on file, republican members, feel more free to say that. it seems like they don't necessarily feel comfortable may be working with him. but that is not the room that mccarthy has. he is not going to be outspoken, i think, as much as these members. it does give democrats an opening here to essentially characterize, like hughes santos as emblematic of the republican conference. so, that is one thing that they get. that is not exactly, i think, a fair thing to do. but it is certainly politically something that they can do as the saga goes on and on. one last thing i will say, i think that if
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santos continues to stick up the oxygen, i think that is going to be alienating to some republican members who want attention for their committee hearing, or this bill that they introduced. and they just can't get that attention, because of santos. i think maybe we will santos. i think maybe we will start to see more outcry. [smash] >> dad: it's okay. pull over. >> tech: he wouldn't take his car just anywhere... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...so he brought it to safelite. we replaced the windshield and recalibrated their car's advanced safety system, so features like automatic emergency braking will work properly. >> tech: alright, all finished. >> dad: wow, that's great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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especially because of what you would find. no offense to the former congressman at the table, there is a reason that people want the cameras up. to inform people about things. a really good point. also the idea that we are talking about someone, all that we described is neither a feather in the cap, nor is it an anvil. what does not releasing about where things are? so good to have you on. up, next we will talk about a second batch of classified documents that have been found by president biden's legal team. a second batch of documents. sources are saying that they were not in his former office in washington. what we have learned so far, and the questions that still remain unanswered, we are going to get to next. >> today, we are learning that president biden's legal team found another batch of classified documents. a source saying these documents came after the november discovery of the classified documents up now
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president biden's time as vice president in an old office in washington d. c.. the question really is, how are we just now learning this, and also the doj going forward? joining me now, cnn special correspondent jamie gangel. andrew mccabe, and legal analyst, elliott williams. i'm glad you are all here. i bet we have similar questions as to who, what, when, who knew what when y. that and the segment today, thank you for watching cnn -- no, but seriously, i'm trying to wrap my mind around what has come in over the next 24 hours. even the statement in mexico city. there were 40 boxes that were handed over in an abundance of caution from the first batch that we learned about. it doesn't necessarily add up, but the ten classified documents are not at whatever level they were. but are these new batches, is this from a different location or is that part of those boxes that were handed over? >> a different location, and let's just call it an undisclosed location at the moment. the first location was
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his office, part of the biden pen center that had been sitting there for several years. these boxes were locked up. my understanding is 99% of what was in that office was personal. it included things like the burial arrangement documents for bo biden's funeral. documents of condolence letters that have been sent to him as vice president. that is why his personal lawyer was going through it. because they thought it was all personal, and confidential, and that lawyer gets to a box, he opens it up, there is a folder marked vp, personal. not unimportant. he opens that up, it says classified. he closes it again, he calls the white house cancel, and he says we have a problem. call the national archives. that first batch, there were about four boxes that they found that seemed to be different from all of the other 36 personal boxes. and those had both those ten classified documents, and then other documents that were unclassified, but fall under the presidential records act. sorry for the long explanation.
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>> that is amazing to hear. because it sounds like there are different locations on where things are, but also an abundance of caution to them just say here you go, here is the whole kit and caboodle. of course, the issue, there are many issues here, is -- are people giving president biden a pass on the idea of, this happens, it is not the response people had for the former president, donald trump. of course, the big distinction here is how one behaved once they were aware of it. is that a distinction that you think should be highlighted more? >> it is a very significant distinction. particularly in the context of the investigation that will follow. is he getting a pass? no. i don't believe he will get a pass. he's going to be investigated, and i think likely by a special counsel. >> there is a trump holder appointee who has given a report. >> at this point i think the attorney general would be well advised to appoint a special counsel over the investigation of how president biden and his team handled the documents. that is a separate issue. but i think that the distinctions
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between how him and his team have handled this, and how president trump and his lawyers handled the situation could not be more distinct. it is night and day. it isn't over abundance of caution. contacting the archives immediately. having them come out the next day to recover all of the documents. there is no parsing of, well you can look in this, room not in that, room you could look in the doorway, but not go in the boxes, they handed everything over. i think following in that caution, they are now searching other locations where documents could maybe have ended up as well. contrast that to what is happening right now in the mar-a-lago case. you have the department of justice fighting it out with trump's lawyers in court to try to hold them in contempt for failing to do exactly what the biden team is doing right now. that is going out and searching other locations. you have the trump team refusing to turn over the names of the two private investigators they hired to go out and do their own search, refusing to turn over the names of those investigators because they basically do not want the
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department to know who they are. very different reactions. >> the cooperation is so important here. just for the audience's perspective, all that we are hearing about in realtime, the fact that in the law, we think about records, chain of custody, is there really no one out there who is realizing that they are missing some of these top secret documents? how is this continuously happening? >> i think the big picture point is that we just need a better system in the united states of tracking what happens with classified information after the term of a presidential administration, and after people leave the government. that is the big picture thing that affects both of these presidents. now, this is a really important question that we ask about is the past being given to one party or another. it's really important to focus on, at least with former president trump, if a federal judge how'd found that there was probable cause to believe that there would be evidence of a series of crimes, including obstruction of justice, and removal or mutilation of documents, and mishandling of defense
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information, and beyond that there was the open question of the amount of time, the staggering amount of time over several months where the former president, and with the eight of his lawyers was allegedly frustrating the justice department's investigation. >> you mean the search warrant probable cause? >> yes, outlined all of this. it is just apples and oranges here. look, we may find that president biden and his attorneys are thwarting the investigation of the justice department. that is simply not the case right now. if that evidence would emerge, of course the current president should be investigated. that is just not the case. i think this desire to make it one side versus the other, you just can't do that to every case. it's just not the case here. >> we are excited to draw distinctions, analogies, probably more often than we should. however, there were a lot of questions today. here are a couple of them that were asked of the white house press
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secretary that she declined to answer. who brought the documents to the office? did biden himself bring them? why did it take so long to disclose it to the public? was the timing related to the midterm elections? were there any other things found? was there an audit underway? when was he briefed, why were the private lawyers doing this? she said in an ongoing investigation, and that election part, when people are finding out, that is going to be something that has already legs, and might continue to run as he runs for the reelection campaign. you have a sense as to why they have not gotten ahead of this? from monday to now, why not just say more? >> i think the issue on why wait so long, it is going to have political consequences for him. people don't like to hear this, but this is a gift to donald trump and the republicans, and waiting so long is part of that gift. that said, maybe their reasoning is a they were cooperating with
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the investigation. i don't know. but the political fallout is what it is. i will say, i don't think that there is much of a chance that joe biden carried these four boxes here. i have a source that is very familiar with the documents for the record, he is a lifelong registered republican, and he knows a lot about how these things are handled over the years. he thinks that it was very likely an honest mistake. the real question today is, what are these other new documents that were found in the separate locations?
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>> your eyebrow raised at the thought of an honest mistake. honest mistake? what is this you say about an honest mistake? >> elliott can back me up on this, the sort of referrals from the national archives, or other places about the concerns about classified documents that maybe outside of the approved facilities, they come to the department and to the fbi all the time.
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conduct an assessment as to whether or not there has been damage to national security. how we compromise sources and what weapons. are they helping - once that is done, then you start thinking about could it be an honest mistake? i. e., do we not have enough evidence to prove the intent to mishandle documents that is required under those statutes? there will be a time for all of that, and all of these facts that you mentioned. >> we are going to come back t o
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this point, it is important to hear all of your perspectives, and remember the reason we know about the surge on mar-a-lago, and the entire course of events between trump and the archives is because trump was the one who said something about it. maybe there was a lesson learned and it is gone awry? who knows. either where there are new allegations coming today that a major figure in the republican party, jamie gangel is here, and she is going to tell us about who we are talking about and what it is right after this. >> tonight, one of the most powerful figures in conservative politics is fending off allegations of
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sexual assault. a republican strategist, a man in his late 30s, accuses matt schlapp, who is the head of the american conservative union of fondling his growing wealthy strategist who is working for the georgia senate campaign of republican herschel walker was driving flap to campaign events back in october. he calls the accusation false. he is part of a washington power couple. his wife worked for president trump as communications director. jamie gangel is back with us. these allegations, tell me what they are? >> as you described it, this is a republican strategist, a male in his late 30s who was working for the herschel walker campaign. we are told, he told cnn that he had been driving schlapp, that they went to two bars, he is now driving him back to his hotel, and that is
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when the sexual assault happened. the staffer said that he froze, he didn't say anything, he didn't know what to do, he just wanted to get him back to the hotel as quickly as possible. they get to the hotel, and the staffer says that schlapp invited him to his hotel room. he declined to do that, and several hours later, he informed top campaign staffers what happened. >> that same day? >> overnight. it is late at night when it happens, and then he tells them early the next morning. the staffer says that the campaign was incredible, and completely supportive, and said what can we do to help? for the record, schlapp is denying the charges. as you mentioned, we have a statement from his lawyer, the lawyer
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says quote, the attack is false, and mr. schlapp denies any improper behavior. we are evaluating legal options for response. the board of directors of the ac also say that they are standing behind schlapp and his leadership. >> i understand that there are text messages that you have obtained between the parties involved. what is in them? >> cnn is reviewing text messages from that night, and the phone logs. this text message exchanges actually between the staffer and schlapp, and it is the next morning. the campaign, the top campaign officials told the staffer do not get into the car with him. do not drive him. this text exchanges when the staffer is texting schlapp the tell him that he is not going to be driving him the next morning. he says quote, i did want him to say that i was uncomfortable with what happened last night. the campaign does have a driver who is available to get you to make it and drive you back to the airport. according to the
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phone logs, matt schlapp tries to call the stopper a couple of times. the stafford didn't pick up, and a couple of hours later, schlapp then texted the staffer and says quote, if you could see it in your heart to call me at the end of the day i would appreciate it. if not, i wish you luck on the campaign and hope you keep up the good work. we also reviewed a set of text messages that were making public for the first time. it is a night before -- it is when the staffer gets back. he reaches out to a friend in politics to tell him what happened. he really sounds distraught in the messages. and he is asking the friend, how do i tell the campaign what happened? so he says, quote, he is mad i didn't follow him to his hotel room. when it comes to longevity, who has the highest percentage of its vehicles still on the road after ten years? subaru. and when it comes to value, which popular brand has the lowest cost of ownership? lower than toyota, honda, or hyundai? subaru. it's easy to love a car you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru.
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just look around. this digital age we're living in, it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it and now a lot more people can. so let's go.
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the digital age is waiting. just look around. this digital age we're living in, it's pretty unbelievable. problem is, not everyone's fully living in it. nobody should have to take a class or fill out a medical form on public wifi with a screen the size of your hand. home internet shouldn't be a luxury. everyone should have it and now a lot more people can. so let's go. the digital age is waiting. then later the friend he is reaching out to responds and says, i am so sorry, man, what a creep. and the staffer later texts, i just don't know how to say it to my superiors that theisuoglemy junk without consent.
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>> wow. there is a lot to take in their. the text messages tell ignition aspect of this story. i am wondering, why are we just learning about this now? it always seems to be a question that i had, the timing of it, i think that some people in the court of public opinion obviously often questioned the timing as to when, and how it is done. do you have a sense as to why now, three months later? >> what the staffer told us was that it was two weeks after the election. he didn't want to distract from the campaign. he didn't feel like it was a campaign's fault and he was afraid that it would become another controversy.
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>> for herschel walker. >> for herschel walker. he appreciated that the campaign did everything to support him. he says he is coming out now because the campaign is over. he doesn't want anyone else to be victimized. and he says that he is considering his legal options. >> just so we are clear, this was not a member of the herschel walker campaign, a surrogate of the campaign. >> the staff are -- >> no, matt schlapp, his role. >> he was a surrogate who have come down to georgia to do some early events for the campaign. >> very important, thank you, unbelievable, think about this happening. there was a total airline meltdown, and i should add the word again, and this
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time it was not just one particular airline. the question that many people are asking tonight as why does this keep happening, and just how at risk is the infrastructure in aviation in this country? we are going to talk about all of it after this. >> we've got new details tonight about the massive flight disruption today, and what led the faa to issue its 19-minute nationwide grounds up of flights. the sources tell cnn that air traffic control officials discovered a computer glitch -- late tuesday. even now, airlines across the country are still grappling with the ripple effects. more than 10,000 u. s. flights have been delayed, over 1300 have been canceled and the biden administration says there is no evidence of a cyberattack at this time. let's talk about it now with juliette kayyem, former department of homeland security official, and andrew mccabe, former fbi deputy director. juliet, this is very
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concerning, not just from a consumer traveler perspective, but the idea of, what is your reaction to the fact that this even happened? >> you are talking to people that are here. but we had flights today. so, we are from the frontlines, as we say. luckily got here. this is serious in the sense -- we have not had a nationwide grounding since 9/11. so, this does not happen often. you do not close down the airport system. and this was not just any system that broke down. it's called the notam system. -- is there a disruption at an airport? and it is communicating with the
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pilots. so, without it, you have no communication with the pilot so to call it a system did not work -- it is actually a very relevant system. it's safety and security system. >> -- >> so, none of it is good. the faa, i should say, took too long to tell us what was going on. thinning from yesterday my day there were coaches in the system. to their credit, they are trying to get the system to fix itself. they are rebooting it enters backup systems. none of them are working. too juliette kayyem many juliette kayyem juliette kayyem passengers arriving at airports. i think they could have communicated faster. the good news is that even a system this complicated was able to
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get back up and running within 90 minutes. and airplanes -- i got delayed in the end just an hour and ten minutes. and i had a flight at the key time. >> what is the corrupt file about? what is this mean? this glitch there talking about in the notam system? >> we are told they found a corrupted filing the database of the main notam system. seriously, they also found a corrupted vial in the backup system. so the question is, what kind of system are we talking about? how old is the system? how well maintained is it? is it capable of keeping up with the incredible demands that we put on our aviation system. >> wait, this corrupt file mean something the various? or it could be something like a benign glitch. >> it could really go either way. i'm glad the administration's couch in the references to cybercrimes as, we have no indication at this time of a cyberattack. i think it is a little bit early to be drawing the conclusion that there was no cyber connection to this. but as we know, the attackers are those trace o so, d d every moment in life is a bet. like betting your favorite jersey won't shrink in the dryer. this wild card weekend, all customers who place a same game parlay on nfl games get up to $100 in free bets, win or lose. so bet on fanduel, and make every moment more.
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