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>> as for the white house, key questions remain unanswered. >> i'm going to leave it there. this is under review by the department of justice. i'm not going to go beyond what the president shared. i'm not going to go beyond what the white house counsel shared. >> reporter: is the president saying he did not bring those documents to that office? >> i'm not going beyond what the president said. >> reporter: do we know who -- >> i'm not going beyond what the president said. >> one house democrat says politics shouldn't be the issue with something this serious. >> classified documents belong in classified settings. if we're having consistent problems across parties with exiting government officials not putting classified documents where they belong, that's something we should take up. oversight isn't about partisanship. >> paula reid live in washington
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for us. what do we know about the documents in this second batch? >> reporter: we don't know much other than biden's attorneys uncovered a second batch. the first batch was found in early november in an office that his attorneys were clearing out. that included ten classified documents, including information about iran, the uk and ukraine and even included top-secret information. we're told it was that discovery that spurred the searches in additional locations looking for other documents. we don't know where the second batch was found, what it includes. one of the biggest questions, is this it? the white house has been very careful not to say that the first batch or second batch is all they know is out there. that's a really big question to have hanging over the white house. >> how is the gop responding to this on capitol hill? i'm sure they're pouncing.
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>> reporter: of course they're pouncing. house oversight wants briefings. you showed the clip of kevin mccarthy asking why it wasn't disclosed. the speaker knows it's the justice department's standard operating procedure. they don't comment on current investigations. he explained what happened at mar-a-lago was a raid. that's not accurate. it was a duly activated search warrant. the big question is for attorney general merrick garland, whether he wants to appoint a special counsel. now that we have documents found in a second location, don, that suggests he may be left with no choice. politically, look, if voters feel like they're not getting all the information and they keep uncovering new classified documents in other settings, it can become a big political
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liability. >> paula reid, thank you. >> let's bring in albert gonzalez who served as attorney general under president bush. you were once in merrick garland's shoes. would you appoint a special counsel here? >> you know, i -- i think the bar for appointing a special counsel has gotten much higher in terms of what would be necessary. in the bush administration, yes, a special counsel would have been appointed. we appointed a special counsel, john ashcroft did and he stepped away because of the fact that he used karl rove as an adviser many years before then when he was running for governor. in today's world that standard
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has changed. merrick garland will have to make an independent decision based upon what he thinks is in the interest of justice, what his investigators are telling him. if you're asking me based on what i know, based upon public reporting, i think if i was making the decision during the bush administration, yes, i would have appointed a special counsel. in particular because -- if we're finding documents in different jurisdictions, we need someone who has authority over all the jurisdictions. >> who would that be then? who has jurisdiction? >> he would find someone like a former prosecutor to appoint as special counsel. look, we're talking about the attorney general -- >> let me jump in please. you're saying -- it seems like you're saying you don't think
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the bar is very high for special counsel, but you said different jurisdictions and that person would be a special counsel. what is it? do you think a special counsel should be or no? >> based on what i know, based upon my experience in the bush administration, yes, particularly if it appears we're talking about evidence that may be in different jurisdictions. i would appoint a special counsel that would have jurisdiction over the various u.s. attorney districts. yes, i would appoint a special counsel based on what i know. again, it's based upon public reporting. it's not my place to second guess or put pressure on merrick garland. just based upon the interest of justice, i think a special counsel is likely to be appointed. >> we were talking about that we heard from trump's attorneys is that this shows how easy it is to take classified information
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when you leave office. president biden said he takes classified information seriously. is it easier than people think to take it with them? >> you have to remember we're talking about a lot of information and documents that happen at the end of an administration. generally you have aides that have responsibility to gather up that information and move it to, say, a presidential library or a place where -- presidential -- private personal documents are going to be stored for the outgoing administration. it could be that president biden has no idea what else might be out there because he didn't actually move the documents. is it easy? i wouldn't say it's easy, but certainly possible that, when you leave office, you take some documents with you that are classified. it's important that you
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remember, once the administration is over, any presidential record is no longer yours. it belongs to the archives and you have a responsibility to get it to the archives. if you're talking about hundreds of pages of documents, you typically have people doing that and you may not know if all the documents have been turned over. you do your best to make sure that happens. you hope your staff does its job in collecting the information and turning it over. in terms of firsthand knowledge, it's difficult for a vice president or a president or even a cabinet secretary to know for sure. that's why the white house has been so reluctant to say, this is all there is because they're i'm sure doing a search right now to confirm. >> you just said you should do everything you can to get them to the proper place.
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there is -- look, there are distinctions between what happened with the trump documents and with the biden documents. quite honestly for people at home, it's hard for them to see those distinctions. it all looks like the same thing. you've got these documents and they shouldn't be where they are. the distinction is biden is saying we want to comply. trump is saying i don't want to comply. that's how we got to this point. can you discuss that? do you understand what i'm saying? >> i think it's important for people to understand in any criminal prosecution the facts matter. the differences in facts are going to make a big difference. also, to the extent you have different prosecutor -- you have a special prosecutor looking at the mar-a-lago documents. you're likely to have a special prosecutor here. they're going to be different. they'll view evidence
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differently. the judgment will be different. so the -- no republican would want to be prosecuted for committing a crime for certain acts based upon the actions of a prosecutor with respect to a different set of facts. facts are critically important. the slight deviation in facts may make a difference in the mind of a prosecutor in exercising his or her discretion as to whether or not to move forward. the fact that former president trump may be charged shouldn't make a difference with respect to whether or not president biden should be charged. vice a versa. facts matter. the american people, i think, need to understand that. i know it's difficult to perhaps accept or comprehend in this politically-charged environment. that's the way it works in our justice system. >> does it matter that biden -- biden was vice president six
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years ago. he had the documents for possibly six years. trump was president two years ago or so and they had been working for a year or so to get these documents back. he didn't have the documents as long. biden had them for six years. does that make a difference? >> i'm sure at some point he was told all the documents had been turned over. so there was no additional work to confirm that. i'm sure he relied upon trusted aides who were charged with making sure all the presidential records were turned over as they should have been turned over. you know, it's not surprising they -- at some point it stopped. that effort to confirm that stopped. it took a long period of time to discover there were additional documents that should have been turned over. >> you were once accused of improperly handling information, saying you took home information that was not supposed to be
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taken out of where it was stored within the federal government. how does that shape your perspective on this? you've been through a similar situation. >> these were personal notes. they were not stamped classified. these were personal notes of a meeting we had with congressional leaders over a highly classified program. yes, there was an investigation because of the fact that they were stored in my private office in the department, but it wasn't the right kind of safe. the lesson i get from that is people take this seriously, and they should take it seriously. prosecutors take it seriously. a matter that isn't that big a deal -- we're talking about in my case they were documents that weren't stamped.
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they were a written summary where we talked about a classified program. there was no description of the classified program, but simply a recording of what the congressional leaders said in response to what we were telling them. this is serious business and sometimes, you know, you're not as careful as you should be with information that is classified, whether you know it or not. i think that's good because this information could be damaging the national security of our country. it could be proved dangerous to people we have around the world that are helping us collect information. that's the lesson i get from my experience. we also, again, it's important to understand facts matter tremendously in the discretion and judgment of prosecutors, as to whether or not what happens in president trump's case and that may be different than what happens in president biden's
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case. >> having said that, does this hinder, compromise, change the equation for merrick garland when it comes to the possible prosecution of donald trump? does it put him in a tougher position to prosecute donald trump? >> well, again, as a human being it might. as a prosecutor and the attorney general, they're different cases. you have to look at the facts of each particular case. exercise your independent judgment as to what is the right thing to do in the interest of justice. >> thank you. >> that was wide ranging. >> you were the perfect guest to have for this. thank you, mr. attorney general. be well. >> that's a good distinction at the end. it's something that will affect his thinking. >> yeah. now that house speaker kevin mccarthy is the house speaker, it's time for him to make good
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on promises made to gop hard liners. he was elected speaker in the 15th ballot. in the days leading up to that he made numerous concessions to republican lawmakers. that includes on key committees, pivotal roles, some that were now assigned. here is cnn's senior data report who is looking at that. harry, we heard he didn't promise anyone specific seats, but we saw that come to light yesterday. >> this morning's number is six. republicans who once voted against kevin mccarthy were assigned key committees. the power of the purse. we can see these lineups. andrew clyde was given appropriations. ralph norman, financial
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services. the power of the purse. the idea were these guys rewarded? when these six changed their tunes and voted for kevin mccarthy on the 12th or 13th ballot. compare that to those who held out and didn't vote for mccarthy, they voted present, none of those folks were given key committee assignments. there might have been some wheeling and dealing. now, how conservative are these folks? we can get a good idea by looking at what percentage of the time they voted against biden. look at these numbers. all between 93, 93, 94, 95, 97. clearly these are very conservative hard liners. of course there is also something that kevin mccarthy wants to do with concern to democrats and their committee assignments. democratic house members who kevin mccarthy wants to kick off
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committees. adam schiff, intelligence. eric swalwell, intelligence. one last nugget with concern to adam schiff, he may not be in the house for very much longer. he has his eye on running for the california senate race in 2024. he should be considered high up with his chance to win because he has $20.6 million in the bank. >> that's going to be a fascinating race. harry, thank you for the numbers. want to bring in adam kinzinger who is a cnn political commentator. good morning, sir. we have a lot to talk about. we'll get to santos and all that. you heard our conversation with the former attorney general there. do you think the public at home -- do you think they see
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the distinction between the trump documents and dobiden documents, and what do you make of the discussion where he says as a human being, the attorney general may think differently about whether he would prosecute, but as the attorney general he has to do his job? >> what he says is accurate. first off, the good thing is law does nuance. the law does differences. the law can look at what was intention and that matters. politics doesn't do that. politics everything blends together. what we learned in the last few years, if you throw enough doubt on the wall, that's enough to win your case. i think from a human perspective, yes, i think for attorney general garland he's going to continue to prosecute, even if the joe biden case if
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necessarily correctly. politically, especially the second batch, this is very damaging for the current president and throws a lot of cloudiness into the narrative here that's going on. >> the white house will still be facing questions on that today. when it comes to what's happening on capitol hill and some of these republicans who were initially not voting for kevin mccarthy and then voted for kevin mccarthy and then they got seats on big committees, what is your reaction to where it seems like people are getting seats on these committees for these votes for speaker? >> i would like to pull the curtain back a little bit here. every time we get to something that is going to be tough to pass but has to pass, or a speaker election, what ends up happening is the group called the freedom caucus, i call them
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the freedom club, they like to hold out and they know that leadership needs their votes and they'll extract anything. i knew that kevin mccarthy would be speaker because he would give up anything to become speaker. they were very smart in terms of the politics of this to hold out and extract things that the freedom club never would have got otherwise. they never would have got "a" committee assignments. the so-called moderates, the regular republican, the tuesday group republicans, they have as much or more power than the freedom club. the difference is -- i was part of this group. we don't like to blow the place up. we genuinely want to work as a team and get along. we're always out matched because when it comes to things like taking hostages, the one that's most powerful is the one that's willing to shoot the hostage and that's the freedom kids.
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they were able to extract a ton out of kevin mccarthy. unless and until the so-called moderates come forward and do things like vote against the rules, they'll continue to get run over. >> i'm not sure if you heard of this guy george santos. if you look at his resume -- >> we sure that's his name? >> exactly. you're not being facetious. you called for him to resign. he came after you on twitter basically saying -- if we have the tweet, he said go on cnn and whine about it, cry about it. >> go cry on cnn. >> what do you think of this? >> look, here's the other thing about throwing a bunch of confusion on the wall. i think i heard kevin mccarthy say a lot of politicians -- somebody said they exaggerate their resume. holy cow. let's be clear.
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this is not exaggerating a resume. it's a total fabrication. it's one thing if -- you see this a lot min military folks. they say they have had this job and they didn't. it's another thing to question where your money came from and then to say you were jewish, no, i was jew-ish. then to say your mother died in 9/11. everything about this guy is a lie. if i say the sky is green, they can come after me and have me pulled off the air for being false. this guy lied about everything. i don't see how kevin mccarthy -- i get it. his majority is tight. >> people say the republicans in
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washington don't get to decide. the democrats don't get to decide. the new york republicans don't get to decide. that's what he's saying and that's what kevin mccarthy is saying. >> people didn't decide. they thought he was somebody totally different. it was a lie and fraudulent election. i think he does end up resigning. i think the pressure will be too great. >> we'll see if he does. >> thank you. go check out his resume. it was the volleyball team -- >> i don't think that's on the resume. he said he was on a championship volleyball team at brute college, but he didn't go to brute college. >> when you won that gold medal at the olympics, that was amazing, adam kinzinger. >> on won a national championship at alabama too. >> same thing here at lsu. thank you, congressman. investigators still looking
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search for evidence in ana's disappearance at several locations around massachusetts. i want to bring in a friend of ana walshe, pamela bardy. pamela, thank you so much. sorry you're dealing with this. how are you doing? >> don, thank you for having me. we're in gratitude to be here and shed some light on this story. i'm doing okay. >> before we get into the details, talk to us about ana. what is she like? >> an absolute radiant spirit. the kind of person that, when you walk into a room, you feel her energy. she is all about elevation. she's a brilliant business woman and what i like to call a super p mom. knowing her on a professional level, that's her whole essence of being. when i saw all this was happening, my stomach went
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upside down. just knowing her from a business setting, my heart. >> brian walshe told police that ana told him she needed to fly to washington for a work emergency. he says he last saw her on january 1st. you know her line of work. does that surprise you she would need to travel during the holidays? >> so being in the real estate industry, unfortunately there are times where emergencies happen, right? she was a regional manager dealing with a property management company. yes, sometimes things happen. it's a little fishy because in a corporate setting there's some back-ups there. it's not really that surprising that something could pop up because real estate is that type of industry. at the same time it's a little bit sketchy that it was within hours. >> let me follow up on that.
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she worked in d.c. would her kids ever go with her? did she and her family consider moving there? >> so my friends who are very close friends of hers told us basically she would be in d.c. monday through friday and travel back home on weekends to be with her husband and children. that was my understanding of the whole scenario. now, she used to be one of my colleagues in exp realty. she ran a real estate firm in boston and in march of 2022 took a corporate position and headed to d.c. that i found surprising. it seemed a sudden decision with her. we thought it was just something she wanted to do with her career. she had corporate positions in the past. we didn't think really anything
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of it. i found it strange that kind of going to a brand new city and being there monday through friday and coming home on weekends was a little bit odd. we just thought that was what she needed to do. >> there was an indication that there were changes coming in her life. was there ever an indication that things at home were not okay? >> so my understanding of it -- now, the thing is, when ana -- she has been a power woman and just a business woman as long as i've known her. super mom and all the things. she never talked about anything personal. she never talked about pain. she never really talked about her husband much. it was all about her kids and business and elevation and how she could help other people. to me, she's very similar to me as a person. we're just always elevating, always grounding, always
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positive. i never saw any indication of any issues at home, but maybe there was some type of avoidance there. you never know. >> pamela, thank you. i know you're concerned about her three children. we wish only good thoughts. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me, don. we appreciate it. >> it's got to be tough for her to talk about that. >> yeah, i don't know what to say with this one. so many thoughts, but probably not appropriate for right now. >> we'll continue to cover this closely. any moment, the labor department is going to be releasing a key inflation report. everyone is watching this and the weekly jobless claims. we'll bring you those numbers ahead. stay tuned.
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we'll talk about what to expect in the next two years. the man suspected in the stabbing death of four university of idaho stundents i expected in court today. we'll also look at how disruptive yesterday's nationwide flight stoppage was. also, we'll discuss this key jobless numbers with christine roman. this is really important. what are they? >> in december inflation was easing. those rapid price spikes are slows. price inflation, consumer prices up 6.5%. this is six months in a row of slowing. the trend is your friend.
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from month to month a decline in prices, that's an important number there. i always like to show this chart. it shows more than one month. you can see the six-month turn where consumer prices still too high, but starting to slow. let's dig inside these numbers. depending on what you're spending your money on you notice it. gas prices fell month to month. the heat in the energy market has cooled. food, still a problem here. food prices up 10% and shelter still running a little bit hot here. this is why it's still a concern. you can't switch month to month where you're living. you can switch cuts of meat. you can do things as a consumer to change your behavior, but shelter is sticky. jobless claims, guys, still low.
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205,000, down 1,000. it's the first time applications for unemployment benefits, that trend. that shows me, despite the headlines you hear in financial services from goldman sachs, amazon, layoffs very low. >> you say the price of food. i hear from everybody. eggs, why are eggs so expensive? >> up double digits. the overall inflation story, improving, but a long way to go. >> in the right direction. >> in the right direction. >> we'll see how the federal reserve views this. thanks, christine. house republicans spotlighting the issue of abortion as they roll out their legislative agenda in the new congress. we'll speak to congresswoman presley over what we can expect
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welcome back. house republicans now using their new found power to underscore their opposition to abortion rights, pushing through legislation that could bring criminal penalties against doctors who perform the procedure. this is to appeal to their base. it has no chance of getting democratic support. this would require infants born alive after an attempted abortion to get the same protections as a newborn. republicans also passed a separate measure condemning recent attacks on anti-abortion facilities, groups and churches. they called on the biden administration to protect those organizations. democrats say it's attempting to
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cause backlash. >> our colleagues across the aisle say the quiet part out loud in their at at the present time attempt for political violence. this denies necessary medical care for those who seek it. >> joining us now is congresswoman ayanna pressley of massachusetts. i want to talk about that yesterday. that was an important moment. first, i want to talk about what we learned about the second batch of classified documents that have been found. are you concerned about the way that president biden has handled classified documents? >> well, i'm learning about this in real time just like you are. i don't have any unique insights. what i would say is that the president has been moving with cooperation, moving proactively, moving with integrity, which is more than i can say for the twice impeached former occupant, donald trump. >> are you concerned, though,
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about how long it took to find out about this? they found these documents back in november, a week before the midterm elections. we just found out they found them in recent days. >> again, the president is moving with -- he's being cooperative, moving proactively and moving with integrity. again, there's no equivalency here. this isn't like the twice impeached former president moved. >> you don't have any concerns about how president biden handled classified information? >> i'm learning about this in real time like you are. i don't have any unique insights. i am learning about this in real time. the president is being cooperative. >> do you think a special counsel would help everyone see this is being handled appropriately and decisions are
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being made by bipartisan parties? >> you have to ask the doj that. >> we have asked them that. congresswoman, thank you for answering those questions. on abortion and these bills passed by the republican-led majority you were quite outspoken. it's a messaging bill. it's not going to get passed. why was it important for you to speak out about what exactly this message was that republicans were trying to send? >> well, let's be clear. their bill was not about political violence. it was about denying medical care. more over it seeks to obstruct the will of the majority of americans who have time and time again affirmed that abortion is health care. that was true for ballots throughout the country. so i needed to go on the record to make plain that they were seeking to legitimize crisis pregnancy centers which seek to coerce, misinform and dissuade
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individuals seeking abortion care. it's to dissuade them from seeking an abortion. >> one of your colleagues on the other side of the aisle nancy mace said they were going the wrong way. she said it's more important to expand billings to processing rape kits, birth control. could you work with congresswoman mace on bills like that? >> goal for me is impact and justice. i'm willing to sit at the table and work with anyone committed to that and who wants to govern with compassion for the americans people, being responsive to their problems and not govern with contempt. what we see here under a republican majority is more of the same. they're disconnected and removed from the every day hardships and challenges of the american people.
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they seek to obstruct the will, to overturn the will of the majority of american people. we welcome their partnership on making the child tax credit permanent, on advancing paid leave, on doing the work of maternal justice. >> one area we saw bipartisanship is on the new committee focussed on china. you voted against that committee. can you explain why you voted no? >> i voted no because, again, it's another sham effort here. it's really clear that this is just a committee that would further embolden anti-asian rhetoric and hate and put lives at risk. we have enough infrastructure to tackle those issues. we don't need this select committee. that's why i voted no. i'm afraid it will embolden anti-asian rhetoric and hate.
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>> do you think the 146 democrats who voted yes are wrong in their votes? >> we just see it differently. >> congresswoman ayanna pressley, thank you for your time on these important subjects. good luck in your next two years. sure we'll have you back. >> thank you. so the suspect in the murders of four university of idaho student killings is set to appear back in court just as classes resume. we're live in moscow, idaho, next. w, u uh-huh♪ advantage: me! can't wait 'til i turn 65! take advantage with an aarp medicare advantage plan... only from unitedhealalthcare. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's every-other-month, injectable cabenuva. for adults who are undetectable,
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courthouse in a couple hours' time. this is what's called a status hearing. we'll have to wait and see if we learn anything of substance. this is a precursor to the preliminary hearing where prosecutors melee out additional evidence and witness statements. an attorney for bryan kohberger says they expect to be exonerated. the suspect's dna is allegedly tied to the crime scene, as well as police tracking his cell phone and vehicle which put him in that neighborhood at least 12 times before the killing. >> josh, you've been hearing from parents and students. what is the mood there? >> there's mixed emotion to be sure. we've been talking to students who tell us their sense of community, sense of security has been shattered. this incident has caused many of them to change their behavior, many going out in public in groups and being more aware of their surroundings. don, in talking to students, to parents, to faculty, one thing is clear, although they continue
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to grieve the loss of these four college students, there's a palpable sense of relief that the person police believe is responsible has now been taken into custody. we talked to an official at the university who said, although an arrest has been made, authorities will be maintaining a heightened sense of security on campus for the foreseeable future. their primary focus now is on the physical and mental safety of these kids. >> thank you for that, josh campbell. one good story this morning, students at an elementary school in minnesota are on a mission to help their friends in wheelchairs feel included. we have the details next. not that one. that's the one. at universrsity of phoenix, you could earn youour master's degree in less than a year for under $11k. learn more at t phoenix.edu. for adults with generalized myasthenia gravis who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies, it may feel like the world is moving without u. but the picture is changing, with vyvgart.
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i'm a performing artist. so a healthy diet is one of the most important things. i also feel the same way about my dog. we were feeding her dry, triangle shaped ingredients long as the yellow brick road. we didn't know how bad it was for her until we actually got the good food. we got her the farmer's dog sent in the mail. it was all fresh, when she started eating healthier, she started being more active and smiling more, running more, playing more.
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i want my dog to have a healthy and long life. the farmer's dog really helps that out. see the benefits of fresh food at betterforthem.com today's morning moment, eight students at minnesota's glenn elementary school who use wheelchairs. their friends who don't did everything they could recently to find accessible equipment for their playground and to find the money to pay for it. soon after the principal turned the cafeteria into a disco party to announce an anonymous donor gave the school $200,000.
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>> i felt emotionally melted. i don't have any words for what i was feeling at that very moment. when i heard those words, i -- i'm going to let you in on a little secret here. i almost started crying. >> the kids of glenn elementary made those eight children feel loved, making sure they could also play on the playground with them and have those moments. >> i love that term, emotionally melted. i'm using that from now on. >> i love the disco party right there. >> to announce it. thanks to that donor who donated all that money. >> a perfect way to end the show, especially considering the meltdown that happened yesterday with the airlines and george santos and the documents, on and on. a good way to end the show. think about that as you go about your day. we'll see you tomorrow. "cnn newsroom" start
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