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the pentagon says 350 ufos have been reported since march 2021. the majority from navy and air force pilots who spotted them on duty. so far 163 of the reports have been preliminarily identified as balloons or balloon entities. a handful of others are believed to be drones, birds, weather events or debris, like floating plastic bags. that leaves 171 reported ufo sightings still unexplained so maybe the truth is still out there. all right. thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. have a great weekend, everybody. "cnn this morning" starts right now.
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♪ man, that's lisa marie pressley, singer, song writer, elvis' only child. she has died. i was so stunned. >> me too. >> she's really young. >> 54 years old. prime really, that's young, especially these days with the medical -- >> what a life, though. what a life. >> and her parents, crazy, you know, being the daughter of priscilla and elvis. >> hate to start with sad news but this morning tributes are pouring in as a we remember lisa marie. special counsel, another one, don't be confused a different special counsel has been named, this in president biden's classified documents
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probe. what are the possible crimes and could the current president be charged? plus this. >> oh my god. oh my god. yeah, look. oh my god. that is the damage so many people are waking up to this morning after more than 30 tornados ravaged several states including my home state of alabama, severe weather has been sweeping the south. the damage is likely to take days to survey. we'll take you live to selma this morning. but we begin with the shocking and sad news lisa marie presley dead at the age of 54. we don't know many details about the cause of death. on tuesday lisa marie was seen at the global globes as the man who played her father in the
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biopic won best actor, two days later she was gone. >> people all over the world are mourning the life of lisa marie and so many people saying she really loved being a mom and that is the big takeaway, especially for me as a mom of two this morning. here's a look back at her life. >> singer lisa marie presley died thursday at 54. her mother confirmed the death in a statement to cnn. the statement read in party quote the presley family are shocked and devastated by the death of their lisa marie. they ask for privacy during this very difficult time. lisa marie had been hospitalized thursday morning after suffering an apparent cardiac arrest. she was born in 1968 at the
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height of her father's fame. he died in 1977 when she was 9 years old. she had a troubled childhood that led with her acting out and experimenting with drugs. it resulted in her mother sending her to a series of private schools. she told the l.a. times i never fit into school, i didn't have any direction. the sole heir to her father's fortune, she often lived her life in the tabloids. she married four times including with actor nicolas cage and a wedding with the king of pop, michael jackson that grabbed all the headlines. they divorced in january 1996. later in a 2003 interview with diane sawyer. she said this. >> he wants to lock into you, intrigue you, capture you, he
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can do it. >> she had four kids from two of her four marriages. ♪ >> reporter: he recorded three studio albums of her own. in 2003 her debut album reached number five on the billboard 200 and was certified gold that summer. she said this about taking on the same career as her legendary father. >> i think i was more naive on that front than one would expect. i was a huge musk lic lover, i t to write, sing have my music do that for others. >> tragedy followed her in 2020 when her son, benjamin, died of suicide at the age of 27. later she opened up about that grief of that loss. she was most recently seen on
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tuesday night at the global globe awards which she attended with her mother to support the film "elvis" about her late father. she was asked about the filament on the carpet. >> i was mind blown. i had to take like five days to process it because it was so spot on. >> reporter: austin butler who played elvis in the film spoke about meeting lisa marie. >> i didn't meet her until after the film and she hugged me with tears in her eyes and she said thank you. >> reporter: it has been such a momentous past few months for the presley family with austin butler playing elvis, getting the reviews we're headed into oskar oscar season where he's expected to be nominated and the film is expected to be nominated. >> let's talk about this because this was a shock.
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i was asking were people expecting this at all? no. so dr. tara narula is with us. they say it's an apparent cardiac arrest she died after being rushed to the hospital after the apparent cardiac arrest. she was so young. what would lead to? >> we've been talking about cardiac arrest a lot lately with hamlin it's important to understand what that means. a lot of people think it's a heart taek but a cardiac arrest is a primary electrical problem with the heart, it's not beating effectively or appropriately. and you're not able to pump blood out to the rest of the body to the brain, the other organs and quickly, within minutes you can have death result if you're not treated with things like cpr or potentially defibrillation. we talked about 350,000 cardiac deaths a year outside of the
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hospital. but this really is, you know, it's another sad, you know, tragic event and unfortunately 50% of the time, the first manifestation of heart disease is sudden cardiac arrest. so people may not know they had risk factors. >> she had been getting medical attention her family said. do we know anything about -- the fact that she was on the red carpet two days before this happened would shock people. >> that's how cardiac arrest and disease works sometimes. people can look fine until they have a stroke, heart attack, cardiac arrest. what we know about cardiac arrest is 70% is due to underlying structural heart disease. most of the time it's coronary heart disease but many times it can be a problem with the heart muscle where the heart muscle is scarred or there's failure of the heart muscle but sometimes, in about 10% of the cases it can be a primary genetic electrical
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problem. and there's things like recreational drug use. so there's a host of reasons one might have a cardiac arrest. one is to look for the risk factors and try to screen and treat those, the same for cardiac arrest are the same we talk about for heart attack, high blood pressure, diabetes, smoking, obesity. we're going to go to the growing crisis at the white house as attorney general merrick garland has appointed a special counsel to oversee the investigation into the classified documents that were found at president biden's home and office. this brings us to a rare moment in american history with special counsels looking into the sitting president and his immediate predecessor at the same time for similar, different and distinct but similar matters. mj lee is joining us from
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washington. mj, of course the white house is facing a lot of questions about the timeline here. what else are we learning about what they found out about these documents and when? >> reporter: kaitlan, the white house is dealing with a bit of a messaging problem right now. look at this timeline we learned yesterday from the attorney general. it was on november 2nd that the first batch of classified documents were discovered at biden's office in washington d.c. then we get to december 20th when more documents were discovered at his wilmington home, and then it was on january 9th, this monday, that the special counsel to the president announced there had been misplaced classified documents but it only mentioned the first batch and didn't mention the second batch of classified documents that were misplaced even though we not at that point biden's lawyers were aware of the first batch and second batch leaving us with a lot of
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questions that the white house hasn't answered about why they weren't more forthcoming in the first place and on monday night when they released that first statement. >> a big question has been how these documents got where they were. we talked about the former private office, biden said yesterday that the second document that was found was inside his garage, next to his corvette. has the white house offered any explanation for how the documents got there in the first place? >> reporter: this morning the cnn team has done a reconstruction of the earliest days of 2017, this was the days when the vice president, joe biden, was sprinting through the final days of him being in office. what we learned is he had an incredibly busy last few weeks and few days of the vice presidency. including a last minute trip to ukraine, going to davos, the surprise medal of freedom ceremony that was given to him by the president then, president barack obama. and we are told that that made everything so much more hectic.
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and there were lower level assistants, lower level staff mostly involved in packing up his belongings. but there were several offices that had to be packed up and all of this made things so much more hectic and crazy. and kathy chung, the executive assistant at the time we now know was one of the people interviewed as part of the process. >> they haven't said who packed and moved these materials. when this special announcement came down yesterday, the special counsel announcement was the white house caught off guard by it or were they bracing for it? >> reporter: you know so often people talk about the circle of advisers around biden being small the circle of people who has known about the misplaced documents situation has been extraordinarily small. and what we learned is that people inside the white house and around the white house have been completely in the dark about this entire situation and they have been privately expressing frustration that they don't know anything they're just having to wait.
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they couldn't answer reporters' questions. and yesterday when all of this came down with the special counsel we sensed frustration they felt the white house counsel's office left things become a drip drip drip situation. what they're ultimately hoping is this review will show that all of these documents were inadvertently misplaced. >> mj lee will continue on this. thank you. let's get reaction off of capitol hill. let's bring in jessica dean. good morning, once again and there's more to the story that we started reporting this week. what's the reaction now from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: as you can imagine they're eager to talk about this. democrats want to frame it as something different than what is going on with former president donald trump, republicans eager to pounce on this. they got this new line of attack in their laps, especially house republicans as they take over the house and begin oversight of the biden administration. let's go to the senate for a
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second. we heard from the senate judiciary, the ranking member and the chair of that committee, dick durbin the chair as the democrat, he said rather than acting as the president's personal lawyer, attorney general merrick garland's appointment of a special counsel assures the american people that this investigation will be done fairly and with integrity. lindsey graham saying we need to fully understand what happened in both cases with trump and biden to make sure our system works in a way that protects our national security interest. but again, the senate is out and has been out for the last couple of weeks since they were sworn in. they'll be back a week from now. but in the house they were in yesterday and kevin mccarthy just had his first news conference. he was very eager to talk about this and the oversight and what republicans, a lot of republicans especially in the house consider a double standard here. >> so beyond this there are
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other investigations that biden could face on capitol hill, correct? >> reporter: absolutely. that's what house republicans have been promising, what they're working towards now. they just voted on the special select subcommittee to focus on the weaponization of the federal government, the doj, fbi, entities that have been investigating former president trump. so we're looking to see that ramped up. we know that james comber has reached out to the national archives and the white house for documents surrounding all this. you can expect that, pulling out of afghanistan, covid-19, hunter biden these are topics we'll hear more about in the coming weeks and months. don. >> thank you, jessica. republicans are now pouncing on biden for these classified documents, some went out of their way to down play former president trump's potential mishandling of documents. here's a reminder. >> what i've seen that the national archives was concerned about trump having in his possession didn't amount to a hill of beans.
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>> i don't know what documents were at mar-a-lago. >> is it fair to say that investigation will be a priority. >> that will not be a priority. >> this is concerning. this is now the second location that the president was in possession of classified documents. what's the vice president doing with classified documents? >> this is so outrageous this has to rise to the level of this better not be a clerical issue between the archivist and the former president. >> i've been in the oval office with the president. i'd be very surprised if he has actual documents that rise to the level of national security threat. >> this is completely mishandling of classified information. why did he have these documents? when did he get them? did he get them when he was vice president and take them when he left. >> are you going to hold hearings? >> it's possible we'll hold hearings. >> if they try to prosecute trump after hillary clinton set up a server in her basement, i
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worry about our country. >> if there's not a special counsel appointed to find out how this happened with president biden regarding classified information, there is going to be a lot of -- it will hurt the country. >> so let's take a look at democrats for their part overall, a bit more consistent they are concerned about the biden documents but say there's a false equivalency. look at this. >> the fact that they were in an unsecure place guarded with nothing more than a padlock or whatever security they had at a hotel is deeply alarming. >> i think whenever classified documents are somewhere they shouldn't be but we see no evidence of deliberate intent or obstruction of justice as the case with donald trump and mar-a-lago. >> if i take documents out of that facility i have committed a felony. if a president takes them out of a facility he too has broken the law. >> classified information needs
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to stay in secure spaces. we'll wait to see the facts. >> this is likely criminal what has happened at mar-a-lago and you have to wonder why was he hiding these documents even when they were requested but you have to wonder with someone who you cannot trust like donald trump what else is there? of course i'm concerned. i think the president is concerned. that is obviously, you know, unintentional and outside of the requirements of our intelligence laws, classified information must remain in secured compartments. but cooperation is coming from the biden administration and the president's lawyers and there was zero cooperation from donald trump who tried to do everything not to cooperate. >> so a taste there on both sides. ahead we'll be joined by chuck schumer, live in studio. we'll get his thoughts on all of this special counsel investigation. >> a lot of questions for how they're responding to it then
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and now. >> it's politics. >> it's also the law. it's the law. >> it's national security. what was in them. >> i'm not saying it's right. i'm saying it's politicians being politicians, which in this moment everyone should want transparency. everyone should have the same rules. the democrats should have the same rules for the democrats, republicans same rules for the republicans. if president joe biden did something wrong, he should pay the consequences. donald trump should pay the consequences. and there should be no trying to equivocate on both sides. they did something wrong, documents were found in places where they should not be found. >> right. >> right? >> yeah. bottom line. >> we'll see what schumer says about it. also this morning checking in on the south because deadly storms and tornados have left seven people dead, a wide trail of damage, we'll take you to the hardest hit areas and show you that next.
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>> this morning at least seven people are dead after powerful storms, including 35 tornados ripped through the south yesterday. a state of emergency has been declared and six alabama counties and the entire state of georgia. officials got reports of destroyed homes, downed trees and downed power lines across alabama, georgia, and kentucky. in georgia a five-year-old was killed after a tree fell on the car he was in, crushing him. now 35 million people are under a severe storm threat. ryan young is in selma, alabama with more. where a lot of these deaths where, where i'm from, i was checking on my family yesterday, they said it came out of nowhere. i know selma where you are got the worst of it. what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: interesting enough i talked to my family member who is live in this area and they said the same thing, the storm was intense, big, and hit hard.
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look where i'm standing you can see the size of the box truck that we're next to, it was turned over. there's siding across the area blown around and as we're able to go through this morning, it's still dark, you can see the destruction left behind but you hear story after story where people were terrified when this storm hit, they ran for cover in several different businesses. look at the place i'm standing in front of. it's crushed, the roof is off of it. listen to this woman talk about how terrifying it was when this all went down to her out of the blue. >> we had to run for cover. we had to go run and jump in the closet. oh my god, oh my god. this is the building beside us. oh my god. >> reporter: well, you can look from above. this is across the train tracks
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here. when you talk to people in this area they're talking about the fact not only were they scared and terrified but how much debris was blown all over the place. we even driven three miles in the general area through selma and you can see just what's left behind because of the damage. they're saying they're going to be doing more assessments this morning because first light is coming but we know power companies have been coming to restore power. but phone service is disconnected for people with cell phones, and trees are down on the streets, so it's dangerous to drive at this point. we'll continue with this assessment and bring you the information. >> an area all too familiar with that kind of damage. thinking of those six people who lost their lives this morning. we'll check back in with you. >> everything okay with your family? >> everyone is okay. but you know being from the south this is something you go
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through. you hear about the storms and i text every person, i have all of them on find my friends i check and see where's my brother, this person. >> they do come out of nowhere. >> that's the worst part. you can't know when it's going to be that bad. >> thanks to ryan, glad everyone is okay in your family. ahead, vladimir putin getting frustrated with his own government officials asking why are you fooling around getting more military planes. we'll play it for you ahead. plus the intense battle in eastern ukraine, hundreds of civilians trapped as the battle continues. live on the ground in kykyiv. neuriva plus is a mumultitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brainin health. to help kekeep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work,
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that russian forces have, in fact, taken over soledar but it could be significant if it is the case. this would be the first major russian victory in many months and it is the gateway to donbas, six miles from bakhmut, if they have taken it they would be able to shut off supply lines to the city of bakhmut which is also contested. >> in the midst of this, vladimir putin lost his temper at high ranking officials over military planes, what happened? >> reporter: so basically this is actually pretty classic, putin, to be honest, poppy. he gave a very public and embarrassing dressing down to the minister of trade saying they weren't moving quickly enough to get these contracts ready for civilian and military aircraft. i think what it's designed to do is deflect himself from any criticism for the handling of
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this war. it's showmanship where he gets to look like the tough guy cracking down on people who aren't doing enough to help the troops. we saw something similar three days before the war started in february, he gave a public dressing down to his head of foreign intelligence. the reality is, in terms of these planes and military aircraft and a lot of the issues that have kind of plagued the russian military, they're a product of the incompetence and corruption that have flourished under vladimir putin's leadership. so in a sense these public displays of admonishing other officials are a way to try to protect himself from some justice department chriticism. small businesses took loans they needed back when covid threatened to shut them down, why they're still struggling to repay them.
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said are clawing their way back from covid and now many are dealing with yet another financial strain. at the start of covid, nearly 4 million businesses took out disaster loans from the federal government. in all, about $380 billion, now they have to start paying them back. at teddy and the bully bar near down dtown d.c., business has never been the same. covid closed two restaurants, government loans saved the other two. but his revenue is still down 45% from pre-pandemic and allen said they're struggling to stay open and now it's time to pay back those loans. >> it's very difficult. we just got over paying back the landlord. you're just a hamster spinning on a wheel. >> at the start of covid with business stalled.
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nearly 4 million stall business owners took out economic injury disaster loans from the federal government. on average about $100,000. in many cases just to stay afloat. 30 years with a fixed interest rate of 3.75%. and unlike other pandemic programs eidl loans were expected to be paid back down the road. now the first monthly payments are coming due. most businesses owe money by the end of january. allen says he owes more than $3,700 per month. a lot of which he said on rent and payroll. >> we can't afford anything. but what we're doing is paying interest only. >> you haven't made a debt on the loan? >> haven't made a dent on the principal. >> a new survey found only 36% of members reached their
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>> reporter: another survey from that same small business association found business owners are feeling less op optimistic about 2023, the potential looming recession. and those uncertainties are adding to the stress when it comes to paying back these loans. >> no question about it. thank you very much for that reporting. president biden facing a special counsel in what is really the toughest political crisis of his presidency so far. michael smerconish is here to weigh in. or “i'll have e all the bacon”" we're talkining about... roototy tooty fresh 'n fruity i'm going to get the rooty tooty fresh 'n fruiuity the rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity i think i'm going to have the rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity yep, it's back. for a limited time. the six dollar rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity combo. 2 eggs, 2 bacon strips, and 2 fruit topped pancakes. only from ihop. download the app and earn free food with every order.
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classified documents the way we lose air pods. >> which is more dangerous joe biden having classified documents in his garage or joe biden having the keys to a corvette? >> look, it is late night fodder there, but i mean, wow, late night hosts poking fun at president biden after secret documents were found in two different locations including his delaware home. let's talk about the political part of this, the legal ramifications as well. the host of smerconish, michael smerconish, also an attorney. michael, good morning to you. it's all fun and games for the late night hosts but this is a lump of coal late after christmas for the democrats and a gift to republicans. >> it seems like a lot of unforced errors. i was watching the presser yesterday from the white house, kareem jean pierre. and all i kept thinking of was
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lanny davis, the clinton confidant, wrote a book, the premises is tell it early, tell it all, tell it yourself. they did none of those things. the question that remains is, why on tuesday when the president acknowledged the discovery from penn back in november, wasn't there also some acknowledgement of discovery in delaware on december 20th. did he not know on tuesday that that discovery had been made? that would be really curious. and if he didn't d know, why didn't he say something. it seems to be turning a bee nine situation into something much worse. they have to address it first and they can't put the white house spokesperson out there to again and again say he takes this seriously. that's not enough. >> he should come out, then? do you think it should be kareem jean pierre or -- >> no. no. no. it's not fair to her.
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>> go on. >> i don't think it's fair to her. there's one person who needs to be heard from, it's the president of the united states. he ought to be out there today and try and shorten the extension of this story. >> why don't we play for folks what he did say about his corvette and the locked garage. listen. >> by the way, my corvette is in a locked garage. it's not like they're sitting out on the street. >> like you think all of these statements just raise more questions than give answers. it seemed there like he was, you know, brushing it off. a locked garage is no place for classified documents just like mar-a-lago is no place for classified documents. >> no doubt. i get the differences between the two stories. seemingly donald trump put his thumb in the eye of the fbi. there's no evidence that the biden folks did that or the current president did that.
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but by the same token the way in which they're handling it, i don't want to say the cover up is often worse than the crime because then people say what's the crime, what are you insinuating. how do i say this, the handling of this may be far worse than the underlying facts are. that's the impression left in many people's minds. >> the timing of the question, that you raise, there was a statement from the special counsel inside the white house monday night acknowledging yes, there were documents found in november, they did not acknowledge the second documents found in the garage, which raised security concerns even though we know they found those back in december and they told doj and the national archives about it then. the other timing is this is a week before the midterm elections and nothing was said publically about it. >> right. i'm sure with anthony weiner on the brain and the impact of those late discoveries in the presidential sycycle in the pas
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the explanation offered on that in the presser yesterday, was the search, the investigation was still ongoing. as if the president couldn't say anything about the december 20th discovery until they searched everywhere. i don't buy into that. why didn't they make an immediate disclosure back on december 20. i think transparency demands that, it's not, as defined yesterday, sharing information with the justice department. no. transparency is sharing with the american people what i think we have a right to know. >> what's interesting, as you said, get out in front and tell the story. they put out a statement and they had to go back and revise a statement saying wait we didn't notify the department of justice, we first notified the national archives. i'm not sure how big a deal is that, but the question i have and kaitlan has been having all along as well. how are lawyers -- why are
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lawyers packing or looking through boxes? was it the trump mar-a-lago investigation that triggered this saying look, we better check to make sure our house is in order and they stumbled upon this? is that what happened? >> you have to believe that individuals, the living presidents, people who have served in senior level of government ever since the mar-a-lago debacle are probably examining every storage locker they have to make sure they don't have a similar problem. my hunch is the same as yours. that probably touched off the process. as an attorney what i see going on here is like the president being kept out of the loop deliberately as to what those documents are. why? so that he can't be a asked by the press what was found, i don't know they didn't tell me. wait a minute, that's worse as an answer. you don't even know what those documents were either at the penn center or near the corvette?
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just bad, bad, bad. tell it early, tell it all, tell it yourself. like today. >> yeah. right on. >> like today. >> cannot argue with that. thank you michael smerconish. see you this weekend. >> thank you. catch michael's show, 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on saturday morning. >> i have a feeling that's not going to happen at the white house. they have the japanese prime minister, they'll be putting the focus elsewhere. >> he'll get pelted with questions. we'll see. >> he will. also this morning -- ♪ >> she tried to carve out her own legacy even though her father was one of the most legendary figures in the 20th century but just like elvis, lisa marie is gone just two days after her last p public appearance. behold... all that talent!
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so moments ago ukraine refuting russian claims that moscow has taken the city of soledar in eastern ukraine. ben wedmen is next to that embattled city. he joins us with more. what are you seeing? >> reporter: we're about, don, two and a half miles from soledar, in obviously a trench. what we're seeing is ukrainian forces are holding steady in these positions. they seem to be ferrying, going back and forth, perhaps taking troops out of soledar in what looks like a fairly organized pullback. as far as the situation in soledar goes, even here, just two and a half miles away, the situation is not altogether clear. some of the soldiers tell us it's fallen. some of them tell us it's still at least part of it in the hands
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of the ukrainians. but we can still hear a fair amount of fire coming from that area. we've seen as ukrainian forces are firing mortars, firing rockets in the direction of the town, but there doesn't seem to be a sense of panic among the ukrainian troops. they seem fairly confident if they have to pull out of sol dd soledar they'll still be able to hold the positions here. >> reporter: soledar is small but strategic. explain why it's so important to the russians and ukrainians as the fighting is going on. >> reporter: for the ukrainians, soledar is right north of bakhmut, which is a city that's fairly important for them. it's a place where they've been fighting now for months and some of the bloodiest fighting of this war. for the russia
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