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i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim sciutto. lots of news this morning happening right now. the newly appointed special counsel robert hur is beginning his investigation into classified documents found by his lawyers and staff at president biden's home as well as a former private office. now we are seeing both the current and former president under investigation. ahead, the legal and political ramifications as the w.h.o. could be on the ballot against each other once again in 2024. plus, we are closely monitoring the devastation across the south, seven people confirmed dead as tornadoes ripped across alabama and georgia. officials say one of those tornadoes may have been on the ground for at least 50 miles. we are live in selma, alabama. >> those pictures from the air, always tell such a powerful story. also this morning, the world is mourning the loss of lisa marie presley, elvis presley's only child. she died overnight at the age of 54.
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a look back at her life in the spotlight. we begin this hour, though, with the discovery of classified docu documents. caikatelyn polantz joining us at former president trump, paula reid also with us. first, paula, let's just bring us up to speed. how do we expect all this have to play out in terms of president biden now that there is a special counsel? >> erica, it's important to note that the u.s. attorney tapped to review this matter is the one who recommended a special counsel and that really suggests that there is likely a lot going on here that we don't know about and this case could be more complicated than it seems at present. in order to take on this task robert hur will have to create a staff, a team. he's going to need resources, potentially his own office. this deals with classified information so people will need the right clearances, perhaps the right facilities, and many of the people he could tap for this are already detailed to the other special counsel's investigation. so he has a lot of work to do
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over the next few weeks to set up his office, set up his team and move forward with this investigation. we expect he will likely issue subpoenas, he could interview people, unclear can i point certainly fell use a grand jury and of course a big question about whether or not the president himself would ever answer questions in the course of this investigation. in terms of who is rob hur, how will he approach this job, we spoke with many people who worked with him yesterday including his former boss rod rosenstein. he said that hur was his liaison between rosenstein's office and the robert mueller investigation. so he knows exactly what he is getting himself into. erica, he has a sterling conservative credentials, he appears to come from central casting. caitlin, our other colleagues, we were like who could they possibly get to take on this job? this is exactly right. attorney general merrick garland absolutely nailed this selection. >> let's go to cnn's senior crime and justice reporter
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katelyn polantz. you have the biden investigation, the ongoing trump investigation, you have new reporting about who exactly the justice department wants to speak to about classified documents found at trump's mar-a-lago home. what do you know? >> right, jim and erica, just because there is a new special counsel being appointed it doesn't mean the justice department puts to bed other things that they are working on and we do now know, kaitlan collins and i have confirmed that the justice department does want to speak to two people that donald trump's legal team hired to search four of his properties last year for possible additional classified documents. these two people did end up finding two classified documents after the hundreds others were found by the fbi at mar-a-lago in august. so now this is a sign that there is a continuing step of investigative activity. the justice department is not just having an open investigation, but they're continuing to gather information. it also comes amid this
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situation where the justice department believes there could be obstruction of justice that was one of the reasons that they went and did that unprecedented search at mar-a-lago last august that does make it a little bit different than the biden situation with that separate investigation, but in the trump mar-a-lago documents investigation we also know that there is a sealed court filing where the justice department has expressed that they are unsatisfied with donald trump's team making sure that they have turned over all national security records that may have remained in their possession. kaitlan collins and i were able to confirm that that court fight is still unresolved even after a hearing in december and now with this new investigative step what could be happening is a negotiation. it doesn't look like those two people will be entirely cordoned off from speaking to the justice department, but they may want to try to limit the questions that the justice department can ask them. we did get a statement on the record from one of trump's
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attorneys, he said president trump did nothing wrong and a proper investigation would have concluded months ago amicably, but it does continue. jim and erica? >> katelyn polantz, paula reid, thank you. joining us to discuss a federal and white collar criminal attorney and david gergen. good to have you both with us. i was struck just about 24 hours ago exactly i was speaking with former federal prosecutor ro nadeau mariota who told me, i said would the threshold be for a special counsel. he said it comes down to whether they believe there is reason to open a criminal investigation. caroline, based on what we know publicly city point does this say to you that there is perhaps evidence of criminality with these documents that were found amongst president biden's papers or do you see this as a political move of the attorney general trying to save face
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here? >> that's a very good question, erica. i think paula hit the nail on the head in that this would lead me to believe that there is more that hasn't been reported because ronato was absolutely right, the threshold to even get to appoint ago special counsel is that merrick garland had to believe there was some basis to pursue a criminal investigation and based on all the reporting we've seen thus far that isn't there. historical prosecutions of this nature show that there has to be an aggravating factor. not all unauthorized retention of classified documents is criminal, and so, you know, obviously it's an aggravating factor in the mar-a-lago case, the obstruction. here we don't see any of that. we see that the documents were immediately turned over to the national archives, doj was informed. there doesn't seem to be that extra hook, unless merrick garland is making just a purely political decision here, i think that there has to be something that we're not privy to. >> so just a quick follow there,
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caroline. in these kinds of cases in the past typically that hook as you describe it is an obstruction thing, what else -- which we've seen with trump and to date at least not to our knowledge with biden, what is another potential hook that would raise it to that level? >> well, look, the hallmark of any criminal statute, any criminal prosecution really is knowledge and intent and we've seen the special -- the white house counsel really pushing back on this idea that there is criminality here. the statement that they issued, you know, something to the effect of, you know, biden will be exonerated, this was an inadvertent mishap, you know, a co mingling of classified documents, he didn't know. what you need is that knowledge and intent factor and we've seen in previous prosecutions that there was, you know, that element there of a willful violation, of mall intent to either disclose or on strurkts things of that nature that we just don't see here, jim. >> david, what's also been raised has been the selective
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transparency, i think we could say, of the white house, in fact, one justice official telling cnn the white house's own public statements earlier in the week offered this incomplete narrative about the documents and that reinforced the need for a special counsel. as you're watching this play out, how would you be advising this white house to get a handle on the communications because it doesn't seem that they have one. >> well, i think they are going down an important path and that is that they're trying to be as cooperative as possible and i think one of the most important things that the white house has to do now is to be, you know -- is to be forthcoming, be transparent, to put all the facts out there, to accept the blame. i also think it's a little early to be finding criminal investigations here in the biden case. it does seem to me intent is critical, it's essential in a criminal case before you bring a case against somebody and this appears to be a case of massive sloppiness on the part of his
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staff and people around him and it's humiliating politically and it's going to be damaging to him politically. the white house has been counting on the next few months being ones in which president biden could continue to go upward on his path to reelection and at the same time donald trump would be going downward as he gets ensnared in more and more legal activities and may be indicted and that sort of thing, and that robs -- it robs for the moment a lot of the sting of the anti-trump arguments, and i think that's -- it is a negative, i think, a net negative, to have this story now topping everything else that joe biden is trying to do. but, again, i would be careful. i think if i may just take one more moment, what has been happening in recent administrations that has not been really discussed very much since all of this broke is that there has been for some years a
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sense of people who work in the executive branch of the government that classification of documents is important, but it's not critical, so that in every administration i can remember recently there have been people who walked away with documents because they wanted to write books, they wanted to write memoires, they wanted to have something they could take to their publishers and there got to be a sense of how do you sneak documents out to play with however you want? so i attribute a lot of this to the kind of sloppiness and to the view that pat moynihan, senator moynihan put forward a long time ago and that is we put classifications on too many documents, there are so many secrets and as a result people get complacent about what is it that's classified. >> definite concerns about overclassification. i remember when i had a clearance sometimes lunch plans were somehow classified. >> exactly. >> because it is better to classify than not clay foochlt.
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david and caroline, thanks so much. >> thank you. people just at this point being able to get out there to survey the damage, hopefully start to clean up after these severe storms and tornadoes ripped throughout south leaving in their wake a very long path of destruction. and also a heartbreak, at least seven people we know were killed in alabama and georgia. homes as you can see in these images just ripped apart, perhaps not surprisingly at this hour thousands still without power. >> how often have we seen devastating pictures like this in recent weeks? this is griffin county, georgia, where the storm damaged several buildings including a high sc school. goodness. and a tornado through right through the heart of selma, alabama. look at these area views, buildings just wiped away it seems. so much damage. this is a view from our drone in the air. cnn's ryan young is there in selma, which is near altalga county where at least six of those deaths happened.
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i wonder what it looks like where you are. >> reporter: jim and erica, i can tell you the light is really starting to -- the sun is starting to come out just a little bit here so you can kind of see the damage. look behind me at how this storefront was just torn apart by the storm. so many people talk about the veracity of this storm as it dropped out of nowhere, you heard a noise, the common train sound and the next thing you know things started getting blown over. as we walk this direction, look how it tossed this box truck here. you can see how it laid it on its side and you can see this playing out over and over. we're near the train tracks in selma and this is broad street so this goes to the center of town, but look at the destruction back this direction. you can see that tree there is just covered in metal. people were terrified when this happened, in fact, take a listen to a woman who ran for cover. >> we had to run for cover. we had to go run and jump in the closet. oh, my god. oh, my -- oh, my god. oh, my god.
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y'all look. oh, my god, it's the building beside us. oh, my god, y'all. >> reporter: jim, as you can see as we get closer you can see how this car has been damaged and you can -- the men here in the middle they work with the train company they're trying to get these tracks back open and viable. as people come through this area i have had family in this area, they talk about they are trapped in the neighborhood now because trees are you will all over the roads here. that was what people were worried about, the idea that folks would start trying to come out to assess the damage. right now with power crews surging through the area to get the power back on they are urging people to stay home. you can see all the destruction that's behind me and what this storm did just in a matter of minutes. >> it is always remarkable to see those pictures and i know when you are there on the ground, even more so, you see the power of nature to just completely designate a community. ryan, glad you are there for us. thank you. still to come here, the latest details about the death of 54-year-old lisa marie
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presley, of course, the only child of elvis. a mother, a daughter, just days ago here she is on the red carpet at the golden globes. tributes understandably pouring in this morning. >> what a shock. we are also joined later this hour by health and human services secretary xavier becerra this on the major changes this year to prescription drug costs as medicare prepares to negotiate prices for the first time. could mean a lot of relief. plus tonight is your chance to become a super mega, mega millionaire, the second biggest drawing ever. we will be live in florida where the ticket for the largest mega millions prize was sold just a few months ago. ever assembled. the monster, the outlaw... and you can't forget about the boss. it wasn't just a roster. it was a menu. the subway series. the grgreatest menu of all tim. ♪ this feels so right... ♪ adt systems now feature google products like the nest cam with floodlight, with intelligent alerts when a person familiar face is detected.
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presley. this after her sudden death overnight at the age of just 54. here she was singing "i love you because" in a duet with a recording of her late father elvis presley. she was hospitalized thursday after suffering an apparent cardiac arrest. she is survived by her mother, priscilla presley, and three daughters. >> cnn entertainment reporter chloe melas following this story for us. we had seen her just earlier this week so that was part of the shock and also just so terrible. you know, the loved ones that were left behind. >> it was such a touch and go situation last night because in the morning we knew that she had been -- paramedics were called to her home in california, i had just seen her at the golden globes two days before, i passed by her table, i didn't speak to her but she definitely seemed somber but obviously we can't correlate the two things together. we don't have a toxicology report, a autopsy, we don't know any details, but the tributes are flooding in.
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one of her ex-husbands nicholas cage saying she had the greatest laugh of anyone he ever knew. john travolta, and just two nights ago at the globes austin butler winning for his performance of portraying her father in the movie "elvis" that is getting a ton of oscar buzz. when he was speaking the cameras kept panning to the audience and you saw her, looked like she was wiping tears from her eyes, she is right next to her mother, the only child of elvis, and this family has suffered such tragedy in the public eye, especially with the loss of her son benjamin in 2020 to suicide. as a mother, you know, i wrote that story the summer when she wrote this essay for grief awareness month and it was awful. she said my soul went with you. she was never able to get over the loss of her son. you know, this family has been through so much and obviously so many questions but our hearts go out to her three daughters that
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she is survived by and obviously her mother priscilla. >> a lot for them this morning. so much tragedy for this family. chloe, thank you. coming up, the governor of illinois signed a strict gun law banning assault weapons just this week. now some sheriffs in his state say they are just not going to enforce it. governor j.b. pritzker will join us live next. you will want to see it. talent. if i knew about upwork. i would have hired actually talented people from all over the world. instead ofof talentless people from all over my house. get ready to say those five little words. no, not “let me get the pancakes.” or “i'll have althe bacon.” we're talking about. rooty tooty fresh'n fruity i'm going to g the rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity the rooty tootfresh 'n fruity i thk i'm going to have the rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity yep, it's back. for a limited time. the six dollar rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity combo. 2 eggs, 2 bacon strips, and 2 fruit topped pancakes.
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own party. six house members are calling for santos to step down, this after he lied repeatedly about his resumé as well as much of his personal, his financial, his professional background during his campaign as he was running. >> still house speaker kevin mccarthy standing by santos, this morning on cnn senate majority leader democrat chuck schumer weighing in, although he, too, stopped short of calling for resignation. >> he's told a series of -- series of lie after lie after lie. now, there are several investigations going on and some of the charges are very, very serious, and so i think we should let these investigations go forward and see what they produce. >> but you don't think kevin mccarthy should -- >> i want to see what the investigators show. they may show all kinds of things. >> cnn's manu raju live on capitol hill this morning. i know you have pushed speaker mccarthy on this very topic yesterday, he does not really want to engage it seems. >> yeah, he doesn't.
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look, the politics are very real for him. is george santos were to step aside, were to resign, this would create a special election in a district that joe biden won by 8 points, meaning that it would be a very good chance that democrats could pick this up, it could tighten kevin mccarthy's already very thin majority and that's something he absolutely does not want and we're told that it is seriously a factor here as he continues to stand by santos. now, mccarthy's contention is that if there is an issue it will go through the house ethics committee. if the house ethics committee finds anything then they will take action. also if the federal investigators if there's any charges that are brought, conference rules would strip him from any committee assignments but he is allowing the process to play out. when i asked him about the concerns, the very real concern from a number of his own colleagues, from even some republicans about the national security implications of allowing someone who has questions about his past, who could face potential fraud charges from brazil to have classified briefings mccarthy
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didn't seem to have that much of a concern. >> i don't see any way that he's going to have top secret -- you would be referring to george santos, he has a long way to go to earn trust, but the one thing i do know is that you apply the constitution equal to all americans. the voters of his district have elected him. he is seated. he is part of the republican conference. there are concerns with him so he will go before ethics. if anything is found to be wrong he will be held accountable. >> reporter: now, the house ethics process notoriously takes a very long time to play out. even if it were to go through the house ethics committee and an effort to expel him would be brought to the house floor that would require a two-thirds majority of the chamber to do just that, an incredibly rare occurrence. with the support of kevin mccarthy for him to continue to serve it is unlikely that they would reach that threshold. the only possibility of him stepping aside is if he were to simply decide it is time to resign. what we have heard from george santos time and again, he is not
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resigning, he refuses to do so, he is not really engaging on this series of lies about his past other than saying yesterday that he's been honest and even though that -- even that claim of course coming into question. guys? >> manu raju, thanks so much. >> thank you. ukraine this morning denying moscow's claim that russian forces have taken the key city of soledar in the eastern part of the country. instead ukraine says it's holding the line there despite troops running out of both food and water. a cnn team nearby did witness some ukrainian troops withdrawing from the town. >> listen, the casualties there have been horrific. russia capturing soledar would mark a symbolic if not a strategic victory for moscow after months of big setbacks on the battlefield. cnn's ben weed amman is near those front lines. >> reporter: what we're seeing is ukrainian forces are holding steady in these positions and
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they seem to be ferrying, going back and forth, perhaps taking troops out of soledar in what looks like a fairly organized pull back. as far as the situation in soledar goes, even here, just two and a half miles away, the situation is not all together clear. some of the soldiers tell us it's falling, some of them tell us that it's still at least part of it in the hands of the ukrainians. but we can still hear a fair amount of fire coming from that area. >> goodness. dangerous areas our teams are in there. ben weed amman right at two and a half miles outside sole a car in what is a highly contested bloody part of the battlefield. we will have more from ben in the next hour. the need for the life-saving drug naloxone is rising as opioid overdoses spica cross the country.
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this week illinois became the ninth state to ban assault weapons, the law, which president biden and obama have praised, bans certain firearms such as the ar-15-style rifle used in so many mass shootings including ufld cree and highland park shootings last year as well as high-capacity magazines. a growing number of sheriffs in illinois say they have issues with parts of the legislation such as the requirement for skpigs owner of semi-automatic rifles to register them with the illinois state police. the sheriffs say they are not
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going to enforce that portion of the law. here with me now is the governor of illinois, j.b. pritzker. governor, thanks for taking the time this morning. >> glad to be with you. >> so you have sheriffs in effect openly defying this law or saying they might, that they won't enforce a key provision of it. are you concerned about your ability to enforce it? >> well, the requirement over the next year is for anybody that owns an existing assault weapon or any weapon that's banned under this law to register them, the serial numbers, with our state police. so they have a year. there isn't any need for sheriffs to be enforcing anything over the next year. so, you know, i think it's a lot of grandstanding, frankly, and i know there are some of them that are opposed to the law, but the fact is they've signed an oath of office to uphold and enforce the laws of the state of illinois and i expect them to do so. >> what penalty would state
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residents pay if they don't abide by that and within the next year come forward and register their weapons in this category? >> well, it begins with a fine, if they -- if they're caught, it begins with a fine, but a second instance it is a class iv felony. >> gotcha. >> we expect people to -- look, most people in illinois want to do the right thing and will. we also have cut off their ability to buy more assault weapons as of right now. that is the law of the land today, there is no purchasing or selling of these weapons in illinois. >> let me ask you about the effects of this. earlier this year you noted on twitter that the majority of guns used in cities such as chicago came from outside of illinois. i've heard the same from police in other states such as new york, they talk about an iron pipeline from the south. does a state gun law like yours work given that folks can traffic this stuff in from outside the state? >> there's no doubt in my mind
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that we would be way better off if there was a federal law, but the fact is that the larger the coverage of an assault weapon ban, the safer our residents are. so having a statewide ban is certainly the first step. there were individual bans even in highland park, but, you know, the shooter in highland park simply went to another county, another city in another county in illinois and purchased one. so, you know, we need an assault weapons ban nationally and i have spoken with the president about this and with members of congress. we obviously need to elect gun safety advocates at the federal level like we did here at the state level. >> i just wonder if that's a realistic option because you did have until a couple weeks ago, right, democrats controlling not just the white house but both chambers of congress and they couldn't move an assault weapons ban, they didn't have the votes, particularly without 60 votes in the senate. is it a realistic prospect
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support a national ban given those numbers? >> well, let me remind you that we, too, here in illinois had democratic house and senate, democratic governor and we had trouble moving an assault weapons ban for many years. we were able to do it this time for a variety of reasons, the biggest one is that the survivors and the families of victims came together to, first of all, get everybody engaged in electing gun safety advocates in november, and then came together with the legislature to pass something really meaningful. so it can happen in washington, d.c. but it is true the nra and their affiliates are very powerful, but we've overcome them here in illinois. >> you have another institution here to have a look at, right, and that is a very conservative supreme court. you did have events this week where they agreed to allow a new york handgun restriction law to remain in effect but there was a note from justices alito and
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thomas, in effect saying that applicants should not be deterred by today's order which some read as an invitation to gun rights groups to challenge these laws. do you worry that state laws like your own will die in the supreme court? >> well, of course, we are concerned about the rightward turn, significant rightward turn of the supreme court, but the note that alito and clarence thomas put out was a note about the procedural context of this law that they left in place. we know the way they're going to vote, but i have to say we have eight states that have passed assault weapons bans. we are the ninth state. so we believe that the supreme court will take into account the fact that these are established law, have been for some time, and that these are weapons that kill people, worshippers in church and students at school and we will leave in place our ban because these weapons truly are some of the most dangerous.
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>> of course, it passed the supreme court muster many years ago when a national ban was passed in the '90s. governor pritzker, we appreciate you joining the broadcast this morning. >> thank you, jim. just ahead here, health and human services secretary xavier becerra joining us with the major changes coming to prescription drug costs as well as the unprecedented demand for the drug naloxone. behold... all that talent! ♪ this is how we work now ♪ when you see things differently, you can be the difference. -how are you? -good. capella university sees education differeny. our flexpath learning foat lets you set deadlines and earn your nursing degree on your schele.
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it can happen in a matter of just moments, a very small amount of fentanyl can send a person into an unresponsive overdose state and potentially lead to death, but there is a potentially life-saving treatment, it is the drug naloxone. >> and now some policy changes at both the federal and local level could allow more people to access and carry that medication. joining us with more cnn medical correspondent dr. tara in a hula. so, first, remind us how naloxone works and what this could mean, what could change in terms of greater access. >> you said it's lifesaving and it really is, in the same way that an epipen is lifesaving for someone having an allergic
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reaction or defibrillator which we've talk being with cardiac arrest. this is the same situation for someone having an overdose from opioids. naloxone basically works by blocking opioid receptors in the brain and allowing someone's breathing to be restored, usually when you are having an overdose you have respiratory depression and that can ultimately lead to death. it works very fast, within two to three minutes. it comes in two ways that an individual who doesn't have a medical training or license could get, a nasal spray or inject i believe. it's small, easy to carry and the surgeon general put out recommendations in 2018 saying more americans should carry this. in many instances of overdose there is a bystander present. to be in a situation like that and not have to feel helpless and be able to save someone's life. it is quick acting, it says two to three minutes to work, it only lasts about 30 to 60 minutes so you do need to stay with someone until help comes but essentially we are looking at trying to increase access in this country in multiple different ways. so states, many states, have
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laws now that basically have what's called a standing order where someone at risk or if you know someone who is at risk can go to a pharmacy or community organization and obtain naloxone without a prescription. the fda is working on fast-tracking an over the counter form of naloxone as early as march potentially. certain states have vending machines now, certain cities like philadelphia, states like california are looking at putting these in public locations like libraries, bars. so it is really about all of this increase in access, but let's not forget it's also about harm reduction and treatment. you know, i recently visited one of the overdose prevention centers last year here in new york city and they were very clear about saying that, look, this is about giving people another chance, right? so you give them naloxone, you give them another chance to get treatment, to get to recovery and to live. >> yeah, which is so important. dr. narula, appreciate it. thank you. joining me now to discuss further health and human
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services secretary xavier becerra. nice to see you this morning. picking up with dr. narula just left off, if approved the fact that naloxone would be more accessible to more americans, what do you anticipate in terms of demand? >> erica, we know that the number of deaths from fentanyl continue to increase, we know that we're losing more americans today because of overdose. back in 2021 we changed our overdose prevention strategy because we didn't believe it was focused on 21st century challenges and so the harm reduction that you heard about just now, we're now trying to tackle that at a federal level as well, not just wait until the locals start to do it. we're trying to do everything we can to save a life and to reduce a level of harm that someone might inflect on themselves. so our efforts at the federal level are to boost what they're doing locally with tried and true systems that are in place, evidence-based systems that do save lives. >> locally what we're seeing, dr. narula mentioned california,
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mentioned philadelphia, here in new york city mayor adams at the end of last year signed into law that there would be free kits available to clubs and bars. in addition to that, there is training here in new york city, you can get trained online so that you can respond and there's been a psa for years here in the city about recognizing an overdose. does that need to be a yeah, re and local jurisdiction decides how they want to do this. we want to support and keep people from harming themselves and dying. so whether it is something like fentanyl, because of our different guide lines, today we allow fenl anal strips to be part of the strips where the federal government will support the use of fentanyl strips, they will know if it is laced with fentanyl before they inject themselves and hopefully it will
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save a life. but the at end of the day we support what the locals do. >> let's talk lower doug prices. we know there is a need to lower prescription drugs across the board here. i have to say, i was struck by this timeline, we're going to put it up for the folks at home. nothing would take effect for three years so the negotiations don't begin until september, nine months from now. and then a year after that, in september of 2024, the prices will be published. whatever is negotiated takes effect in january of '26. why is this taking so long to even start the negotiations now. that is nine months out. is there no way to start sooner? >> erica, have you ever tried to do 100 yard sprint after 20 years of not running. your probably going to hurt your 1 self. so we want to gear this up the right way. this is the first time in our living history that we have an
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opportunity to negotiate with the pharmaceutical industry to get the best prices so we're starting with ten. this year we'll announce the ten drugs. we'll get ready for the process. it will be a negotiation. i wish it were done sooner. congress gave us the road map and the time frame. but it is a good thing to do is the right way. when we launched obamacare, we waited three years before we launched it on the ground. today close to 16 million americans depend on obamacare for their health insurance. >> as everybody is stretching for the 100 yard dash. insulin won't be more than $35 a month more insulin which is covered on medicare part d. and in their mind it involves insulin prices across board. what is the reality this could be expanded. >> that should be the reality. it should not just apply to those who are medicare recipients.
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the 65 million americans some of whom need insulin, now they don't pay more than $35 a month as a result of inflation reduction act. but that should be something that applies to everyone who needs insulin. unfortunately, congress tried hard to include that for everyone. it didn't have the votes. republican members did not support extending it to everyone. we hope in the future that will be the case because no american that needs insulin should have to pay more than $35 for that treatment for the month. >> i only have time for a yes and no, but the administration just renewed the health for covid-19, will that be removed? >> science will tell us that. >> thank you for your time today. >> thank you. we do have this news into cnn, the sentence handed down in the trump organization trial, we're going to be live outside of the courtroom for that news right after this break. this is inspire. it's simple... it's just a button. sometimes i press his button.
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this just into cnn, a new york judge has handed out punishment now, this in the wake of convictions of two trump organization entities in a decade-long tax fraud scheme. >> cnn's kara scannell is outside of the courthouse with the latest for us. so what is the judgment? >> reporter: well, erica and jim, the judge just handed down the sentence to the two trump organization entities sentencing them to a maximum fine of $1.6 million and rather than repeat all of the evidence that they had ticked through during the sentencing hearing, he said that he agreed and noted that the trump company lawyers have once again put the blame on their accountants, showing they did not accept any responsibility so the judge said that hes would going to impose this sentence. this came after one of the prosecutors did go through all of the evidence at the trial. and in this case, because it is a company, there is no
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individual who is going to prison. allen weisselberg was sentenced this week and he pleaded guilty and serving five months in jail but in this case with the trump corporation, there is no individual. so the prosecutor there saying that this was important because the maximum fine because the only way to deter such conduct is to make it as expensive as possible. and we also have a statement from the manhattan district attorney who brought the case. he was inside of the courtroom. he also is making point saying this sends a message and reminder to corporations and executives that you can't cheat the tax code that you have to pay your taxes. now, again, the trump organization has not yet issued a statement or a comment on this. but this is a significant moment because it is throughout all of these criminal investigations, facing the former president, it is the only one that has come close to him and so it is a symbolic moment. the maximum fine of $1.6 million. >> cara, thank you. well it turned out today friday the 13th, could be your lucky day.
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tonight is the drawing for the $1.35 billion jackpot. >> it is a long shot. >> can't win if you don't play. >> a lot of tickets are sold. the last winning ticket was sold in october in florida weeks after being hit by hurricaneean, we're live there. i wonder if folks think they might strike gold there twice in the same spot? >> reporter: jim and erica, that is the hope. things out here are a bit slow, but the folks here believe that folks are going to be showing up throughout the day and then later this afternoon with a lot of folks done with work and they come out to play. as you guys said, last time that someone won the mega-millions jackpot was in october. there were two winning tickets across the u.s. one was in california and the other one right here at this 7-eleven in fort myers and as you noted it was right after hurr
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