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other interviews from that night. i thought she didn't look like her normal self. and a lot of people are commenting that something seemed to be off. now, we can't necessarily make a correlation between how she was acting or feeling two days before, but the tributes are pouring in from all over the world, from her ex-husband nicholas cage, writing that she had the greatest laugh in the room, that she lit up everyone who she walked around with her smile. tom hanks who starred in the movie alongside austin butler, saying that they are devastated. so many celebrities taking to social media. and we know that she is going to be buried at graceland next to her son benjamin who died by suicide in 2020. >> excellent reporting. thank you very much. and to our viewers, thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, a deadly power struggle. russia zeroing in on one small
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town already claiming victory. ukraine says not so fast. we have new video in tonight of ukrainian forces taking out a shelter with dozens of russian soldiers inside. powerful explosion that tells a ma major chilling story. demons in my head mocking me, the reporter breaking the story is my guest. in the story you'll see first tonight "outfront," the man who sparked the protest against xi jinping's zero covid policy is missing tonight as his followers compare him to the brave man standing in front of the tank in tiananmen square. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, deadly explosion. tonight, we're getting remarkable new video of the bloody battle for power in soledar as that town is on the cusp of falling to russian control. what you're looking at is what appears to be a group of russian soldiers walking along the street in soledar towards that
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building with a green roof. according to ukraine, that building was being used as a shelter for russian troops. so they're walking, there is the building. and then moments later that building is blown to pieces. a ukrainian soldier says there were at least 25 russians inside that building. it is graphic, you're seeing human lives extinguished there. but that forces home the reality of the total death and destruction that has completely leveled the town of soledar. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy tonight claims his forces are still putting up a fight in soledar. but putin's brutal private army, the wagner group, which has been leading the fight there, does appear to have the upper hand. if the notorious wagner group can pull this off, it would be a victory for this private military force. it is run by yevgeny prigozhin. it would be a morale boost for russia. putin's state television is doing a victory lap. here's what they're saying.
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>> translator: the most striking thing to me was the enormous number of dead ukrainian fighters. of course, i can't talk about statistics and i don't think anyone can really say, but i saw about ten to 15 dead soldiers in the entryway of each building where their troops were holed up. >> translator: the situation in soledar is not easy. the enemy does not reveal themselves because of the artillery fire. so we can't find them. but it's obvious that we've decimated them. >> the defense ministry of russia even posting a message praising the, quote, courageous and selfless actions of the wagner assault squad. because the former military leadership in russia is now in an internal battle against the wagner group led by prigozhin. they're fighting for power. so that sort of congratulations is important. but this all comes down to soledar itself, which has little strategic importance. russia may win it for now, what
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they have fought for though is a hamlet and they have sacrificed untold lives. it is now completely limited. one ukrainian soldier tells cnn that when his unit questioned a captured wagner fighter, he was told that only three members of his 33-member platoon even survived. that's the death they are enduring there. now caused putin to publicly lose his cool. there was a meeting today that in the context of a consistently stern and unemotional putin that we have all seen so much is worth showing to you. today putin met with his trade minister. and the meeting was about the delivery of military aircraft. let me play what happened for you for all to see. >> translator: why are you falling around? it will be ready during this quarter. based on the funds available under the budget. i want all of this to be done within a month.
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we will try to do our best. no, do not try to do your best. please get it done in a month. no later. >> why are you fooling around? i want it done within a month. that anger, that impatient nature, that desperation now publicly on display. ben wedeman is "outfront." he is live in kramatorsk, ukraine, tonight. and, ben, you were outside soledar today. you spoke with ukrainian troops fighting there. and what did they tell you? >> reporter: erin, given that the ukrainians are on the defensive, and this has been a particularly bloody battle, we were surprised in speaking with these soldiers just how upbeat they were. one mortar round off. the crew prepares for the next. the target, russian positions in
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soledar. the leader of this national guard mortar unit who gave us only his nickname, engineer, says they need help to stop the enemy from advancing. we need 120 millimeter rounds for the mortar, he says. we'd also be happy if someone gave us as a surprise more mortars. the battle for soledar rages on. russian officials claim they've seized the town. the ukrainian military insists they still control part of it. what the russians now control under heavy fire. ukrainian tactics designed to make every step forward come at a heavy price. despite the battle nearby, this soldier nicknamed sova is
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certain of how the war will end. to be honest, in the first days i had some doubts because according to the news, russia has the strongest army, he says. but since we've pushed them back from kyiv and kharkiv, i'm confident we can win. for the few remaining civilians near soledar, exhaustion. nine months it's like this, says valentina, flying back and forth over my head. with conflicting rumors coming from the town, paulina says her family is leaving. the soldiers are surrounded, she tells me. my sister who's pregnant decided to leave, so we'll follow her. late afternoon and ukrainian marines prepare a fresh salvo of
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rockets. the battle for soledar is not over yet. and given that it's taken so long for the russians to take a town that had a prewar population of just 10,000 speaks volumes about their ability in the field, and also the resistance of ukrainian forces. erin? >> all right, ben, thank you very much. and, next, now let's go to retired colonel cedric leighton. the russian investigative journalist whose news site has been blocked in russia. he has some new reporting for us tonight about what's going on inside the kremlin. i do want to get to that in just a moment. first, though, colonel leighton, from the reporting you see from ben, the brutal fight for soledar. and as ben said, the ukrainian tactic, a key one there, in this town, which is of such limited
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strategic importance is to kill as many fighters of the wagner group as possible. talking about one ukrainian soldier saying that they had taken -- captured one member of the wagner group. he said only three members of his 33-member platoon are still alive. is this worth it for russia to win a town that, when it had people lived in it, because now there's no structures even left essentially, had only 10,000 people. >> from our standpoint from a western viewpoint, we would say that it's absolutely not worth it. you don't put that many soldiers at risk. you don't let that many soldiers die for something that is really nothing, that has been decimated like you described and ben described. but from the russian point of view, especially from putin's point of view, any type of victory is important now. and what he's doing is he is finding a place where he cannot only make this stand but take it over. and that is why soledar has become so important to putin.
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it is a symbolic and perhaps empiric victory. but if he does go through it, he can tout it in his propaganda, and that is what he's doing. >> i want to show that video that i showed just a few minutes ago. you see soldiers walking down the street. they go into that building with the green top. and then it explodes. we understand that building was housing russian troops, perhaps 25 of them. obviously unclear. but they walk in, and then it's targeted by the ukrainians. so when you look at that and you see so much death, one explosion, 25 lives lost, why is soledar so important to putin? >> well, it is important not only for putin but also for the generals. remember that the only thing the russian army has been doing for the last six months was losing territory and soldiers for nothing.
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and the russian army got the permission to withdraw him from kherson, only promising some sort of success, some victory. and that is why as generals we are so desperate to get this success in soledar. and that is why we have this bizarre infighting between the generals and prigozhin over who is -- of this victory. and they do not think of soldiers' lives. >> no, they don't. it is unbelievable to think about it, though. and, colonel, this desperate need for any kind of a victory, even though it isn't even a victory at all, is what we heard from putin today. so he has this meeting with his minister of trade and industry and talking about orders for military and civilian aircraft, where are they! i played a moment ago. he then berated the minister saying it's taking too long. do we not understand the circumstances we are in?
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this after he said why are you fooling around. it was incredible to see that publicly, colonel, which, you know, certainly may be a sign of his psychological state but was not by accident or by passion only. >> that's right. and what he's doing here, he's actually showing the russian people that he is the strong leader. and this plays fairly well with some of the audiences in putin's base. and what he's trying to do is show that he is in fact in charge. he's the one demanding accountability. he is the one that is telling a junior minister that he needs to step it up and make the aircraft reduction in this case work for him. and that's something that we see. but he's also pointing to one other fact, that the russian industrial base is not keeping up with the demands of this war. >> not even close. we see the ammunition, a 75% jump in their ability to do that. so, andre, in this context, i want to ask you about your
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reporting. you point to a telegram post just the other day where dmitry medvedev, the former president of russia, the current deputy head of the russian security council, says -- and you quote him -- in time of war there have always been special rules and quiet groups of impeckically inconspicuous people who effectively enforce them. it sounds ominous, and it is. you say it's an open call for assassins to deal with russians overseas. >> this was an interview done by a famous russian artist. and he was very critical of the war. he attacked the war by the kremlin. that was used as an excuse by medvedev, and not only by him, but by members of the russian parliament, the state duma, to voice measures against people
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who left the country who still spoke against the war. and a number of measures are really why it's about confiscation of the property, passports, of citizenship, which reminds me of the soviet union. he openly called for the use of assassins. >> which we hear about russians, prominent russians, businesspeople being killed overseas. but you say that this is a step beyond, that this is different. >> yes, because officially the russians are -- the russian special forces are killing abroad terrorists. now we have medvedev openly saying that it's fine to kill people who just speak against the kremlin. >> all right, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. colonel, your time, and andre your time and the new reporting you just shared. thank you. and, next, cnn obtaining the
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floorplan of biden's former office where the first batch of classified documents were found. so where exactly were they? as we learn more about what was in them. plus, revealing new messages reportedly from the suspect in the idaho stabbing deaths talking about suffering from a rare neurological conditions. the "new york times" reporter who is breaking this story and has the messages is "outfront" next. i'll speak to a reporter who was one of the last people to publicly see and speak to lisa marie presley at the golden globe awards this past tuesday. >> hey, lisa, how are you?
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a memo from biden to president obama. and obviously we're talking about this particular batch of documents from that office. paula reid is "outfront." paula, what else do you know now about the office where this specific group of documents was found? >> good evening, erin. this is really interesting reporting from our team. and it really helps you understand the space where this first batch of documents was found in set off this special counsel probe. they are preparing to leave the office and it was only actually less than five years after it was opened. it's really interesting because cnn has obtained images and a floor plan of this space. and you can really get a sense of where biden was spending his time after his vice presidency. he's attempting to build this foreign policy thinktank. when visitors entered the building, they would check in with a front desk staff. they'd then take an elevator up to the center offices.
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biden didn't spend much time there. according to a source familiar with the layout, kathy chung, who was biden's executive assistant at the time, and one other person sat at a desk directly outside biden's office. that is significant because chung who now works at the pentagon, she was actually interviewed in the review of these classified documents found in biden's personal office that she has not responded to our request for comment. but biden's lawyers and the department of justice, they have not disclosed exactly where these documents were found within the office other than that they were in a locked closet. closets, storage spaces, they were scattered throughout this area. >> let's go now to national political reporter for the "new york times" along with ryan goodman, co-editor in chief of just security, and the former special counsel at the defense department. so, ryan, obviously we're talking here and what paula's focusing in was the office which
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was separate from the garage and home documents. but from the blueprint that we have of the office showing the private office, showing the nearby closets and that we understand that the lawyers found these documents in a closet. what questions do you have now based on this? >> so, the big question is who had access to that office, who might've used the office, who's located proximate to the office so that all of these people do not have security clearances and all of these people do not have the authority to have access to classified materials. that's important as a legal matter because if it were determined that biden willfully retained the documents for which there is currently no evidence or reason to suspect. but if that box were checked off and then they found that other people had access to those documents, it would really rachet up the justice department's reasons to prosecute if the information is disseminated to third parties that's a key variable for them. >> and if you do not have willful but you do have other people having access, which could be the case here and certainly in the garage could be the case, we don't know yet,
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does that matter if you check box two but not box one? >> you have to check box one. >> so it has to be willful even if someone has access to it? >> that's right. >> no evidence of willful at this time in any way. but this comes at the same time that house republicans and republicans are certainly making a lot of hay of this. the house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan says he is launching a probe into the justice department's handling of this. there are multiple differences on the face of it. there are differences between trump and biden's handling of the documents. there is also of course a special counsel appointed in each. so there is fair treatment. they're looking into each of them. and yet this is what we heard from jim jordan and others again and again. here we go. >> the double standard is obvious. >> the double standard, i think, is starting to become evident. we've seen the double standard time and time again. i've heard it from constituents all the time. they're sick of the double standard that they see out there. >> okay. he's betting on those words. >> he is.
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and i think that is in line with the kind of narrative of victimhood that we have seen from a lot of that republican reich that we have had for the entirety of the trump administration was that democrats were coming after trump and trump voters as a proxy for trying to cut out the republican party. they're going to lean on that and using double standard, he's really doing what we used to say is a false equivalent, he's trying to flatten these two events. but while the white house probably isn't worried about the legal question because they have really said over and over they do not believe the biden took this willfully, they are worried about the political question because that could play into the minds of voters or make it harder to prosecute donald trump. even if it is not a literal kind of one plus one on this front, in politics, that sort of truth doesn't always matter, particularly when lay voters aren't necessarily coming to this issue, but the full set of facts that we know legal folks are and the kind of political
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insiders are. the voters might just see two special counsels and call it a wash. >> they could. and in that case they are. it's two special counsels. they made sure that the one appointed to oversee biden was appointed himself by trump. this has been done very carefully. we also have exclusive reporting on what's in the documents. u.s. intelligence memos, briefing materials involving ukraine, iran, and the uk. briefing memos for phone calls with prime minister of poland and the former minister of the uk. and a memo with former president obama. how much does what's in the documents themselves matter? >> at some level it doesn't really matter as long as we're talking about top-secret information which cnn is reporting that this is classified as top-secret and top-secret sci, which is an even higher level. for that purpose, that means that the intelligence community has deemed that if it were to get out, that information could
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cause severe exceptional damage to the u.s. national security. that's plenty for the criminal statute. and in some of these cases, some of those documents, the sounds of them, they're more innocuous, they're not as significant. if there were a criminal case, which i do not think there will be one, that could be the kind of evidence that they could present at trial that they wouldn't be as worried about that getting out in terms of compromising intelligence. >> thank you both very much. "outfront" next, the disturbing new messages reportedly from the idaho murder suspect talking about being stuck in a void of nothing with no emotions battling demons. the reporter who has obtained all of these messages is "outfront" next. plus, new video into cnn of lisa marie presley in the just days before she died. advertisi. at mint we're not into wasting money. so we e bought this spiffy stock footage for $500. our footage also came with another hand,
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tonight, the "new york times" obtaining chilling posts it says are from the idaho murder suspect. bryan kohberger as a teenager. "the times" sharing screengrabs in which kohberger reportedly says he feels no emotion, little remorse. one says, quote, as i hug my family, i look into their faces, i see nothing, it is like i am looking at a video game "outfront" now, the reporter who broke this story. and, nick, i know that you identified and have now read through hundreds of messages from about a decade of time that you say were written by kohberger. so this would go from the time he was a teenager all the way until now. tell me more about what stood out to you in these posts. >> yeah.
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so it begins with these posts on a forum website when he's about 16 years old. and he's talking about feeling a range of mental health conditions or problems with his life. he talks about not being able to feel emotions, feeling like he's detached from the world. and he mentions when he hugs his own family, he sees nothing. he also describes looking at his life and going through the motions like it's a video game. and he's really hard on himself, saying he feels worthless, that he's a jerk to people in his life and doesn't feel bad about it afterwards. he also talked particularly about his dad, saying he treats his dad like dirt even though he thinks of him as a good guy. and this is all back when he's in about high school and his later teen years. and what we know about his life after that is that he ends up becoming addicted to heroin
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around the time that he graduated high school in 2013. and he's in and out of rehab. but then what's kind of interesting is after that it seems like his life turns around somewhat. he goes to community college and starts studying psychology and starts messaging other friends about saying he's interested in studying the minds of criminals. it seems like he's found a passion of some kind in psychology, in criminology. >> wow. >> and then he ends up going, of course, as we know, across the country from pennsylvania to washington state last summer and starts a phd program in criminology there. >> it's amazing to see this. and you've had a chance to read all through this, which has to be difficult. you say that one of his friends told you that kohberger suffered from a neurological condition called visual snow where people basically see scattered dots, like sort of static on a television to people of a certain age. one of the posts you shared with
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us says, and i quote what you shared with us, it's as if the ringing in my ears and the fuzz in my vision is simply all the demons in my head mocking me. what else do you know about the context there? >> yeah. the visual snow is a really little understood condition. it's, like you said, it's static in your vision like an old television. and there's really -- the cause is still not fully clear. but it really can be debilitating for some people. i want to be clear. it's not a sign of mental illness and it's not something that anyone has said could explain these heinous killings. but it's something that he complained a lot about as a teenager both to friends and on these online posts, and that was coupled with his complaints about life in general. >> nick, thank you very much. i appreciate your sharing your reporting with us and some of those posts, as disturbing as they are.
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thank you. and on the back of nick's reporting let's now bring in a neuroscientist and professor of psychiatry and human behavior at uc-irvine. you hear nick, the "new york times" reporter, talking about kohberger suffering from a condition called visual snow, and "the times" says he referenced this with the visuals v.s. in an online post that says, when i get home, i am mean to my family. this started when v.s. did. i felt no emotion. is there anything you can tell us about this visual snow condition? >> visual snow is often associated with migraine. and it's thought to be generated by hyperstimulated neurons at the base of the temporal lobe. that's where a lot of visual processing occurs. and, so, it's debilitating and almost nothing is known about
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it. but it is a syndrome -- you never hear about it being associated with murder or anything like that. although if you read the rest of his posts, it seems clear that he's got a deep personalization syndrome, which is disassociative disorder where you feel separated from yourself. >> and is that when you're talking about, as nick was just saying sort of when he looks at the faces of his family members, he just says he feels nothing. is that -- that's what you're referring to? >> well, yes. on the top of your head right here parietal cortex, you have a gps system. it puts together your whole world. it tells you where in relationship to at this time world. then it at ads on emotion to
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that. all of that apparatus seems to be damaged. so he doesn't connect with himself. he doesn't have self empathy which is extraordinary. the lack of empathy and himself you can see it in psyche co paths. i am not saying he is one. but it is a curious combination of things. he was a heroin addict and heroin can trigger this disassociation, this depersonalization syndrome. it is like you're living in a dream where you are watching yourself. you can see the disorder. different psychiatric disorders where people feel separated from themselves. you can see it in people who take hallucinasion.
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if they have strange dreams when they are hanging over themselves. people have experiences, but not all of the time. they don't feel that -- that it's occurring 100% of the time. in his case he is living it all of the time. like he is in a dream state. it is a very disturbing dream state. >> well, thank you, jim. >> and he knows all of the words. he's studied this. >> and that is the most bizarre part of it. he is able to make the connection and chose that entire path of learning. >> thank you so much. i appreciate your time, jim. >> and next, what exactly caused lisa marie presley's arrest. new video of lisa at the golden globes. kevin fraser who spoke to her there is my guest.
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she was helped down the stairs at the golden globe and heard asking her friend for support in this interview with billy bush. >> well, tonight will be a wonderful night for elvis. >> yes, i hope so. >> have you gotten to know austin butler a bit. >> yeah, i am going to grab your arm. a lot, a lot actually. >> at this hour, it is not clear what caused her death. her mother prisilla presley said she had been receiving medical attention but did not share more on how this could happen. >> reporter: engine 125 squad. paramedics responded to an emergency call for help. hours later prisilla presley said her daughter was rushed to the hospital and shared with fans that the daughter of elvis had died at age 54. >> i got chills because that is
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how her father passed. >> the child of the king of rock and roll succumbed to cardiac arrest. >> there are 350,000 cardiac arrest in the united states. it is one every minute. so it is a common occurrence. there is a lot of things to cause one. >> without an autopsy said the cardiologist it is impossible to know why a 54-year-old woman would suffer from cardiac arrest. just two days before mother and daughter teeneded golden globes where a biopic was elvis was honored. days before the award show she was speaking at graceland and withdrawing from public view. >> you are the only people to bring me out of my house. >> presley had previously lived a very public life.
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marrying the king of pop before she embarked on a singing career of her own. ♪ i am going to tell you what i think about you. >> reporter: she lest the limelight in previous years. presley wrote about the addiction in opioid saying in the forward of the book. you may wonder how after losing people close to me i fell prey to opioids. after losing one of her four children to suicide. she wrote, you do not get over it. you don't move on. >> reporter: in the wake of presley's cardiac arrest and the cardiac arrest of sports writer grant wall and nfl damar hamlin, there is a scary and unfortunate rise of information where conspiracy theorist are trying to tie it to vaccine safety. >> joining me now is kevin fraser. he is co-host of entertainment
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tonight and interviewed lisa on tuesday. kevin, i appreciate taking your time and sorry to speak to you under these circumstances, because you were there and with lisa marie presley last time she was seen alive in public. we have video of you speaking with her on golden globes and i will play one of the exchanges you had with her. >> hey, lisa, how are you? >> no, it is a big night. >> what was it like watching him? >> hey, nice to see you. >> hi, lisa. >> how are you doing? >> i hear a lot about you. >> i hear a lot. >> what was it like watching austin on stage and in the making of the movie? >> it was mind blowing. truly mind blowing. i really didn't know what to do with myself after i saw it. i had to take like five days to
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process it. >> uh-huh. >> and because it was incredible and spot on. and so authentic, that yeah, i can't even describe what it meant. >> you know watching that, obviously i'm watching it through the screen and video, she appeared to be unsteady and eyes heavy and speaking slowly and missing a word. see the video of her on tik tok being helped down the stairs. what did you see and you were with her? >> it was clear she was not 100%. you never speculate what is going on with someone. she was there to celebrate her father's legacy through austin. she would want to be there. she's been with him through the
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entire journey of the movie elvis. her and her mother were in a cell braatory mood. she was obviously not 100%. >> she was the sole heir to her father's estate and inheriting it on 25. on sunday she gave a speech on what would have been elvis' 88th birthday. here is a part of that. >> thank you. it's been a while. i've missed you. i've missed you. i keep saying that you're the only people that can bring me out of my house. i am not kidding. and that's why i am here.
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so, today he would have been 88 years old. it is hard to believe. >> just seeing what she said there. you are the only people that can bring me out of my house. i am not kidding. >> the point is she was still grieving the death of her son benjamin. she penned that article in people about his death. no one ever gets over the death of a child. you have to remember, since she has been small she is the focus of everyone's attention as the sole child of elvis presley. they got divorced when she was four years old and she left graceland and went to california. he passed away when she was nine. since then, she carried a burden. this meant everything to her and her mother. having been there several type and watched her record music and watching her grow, it was not an easy path for lisa marie.
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she always tried to figure out her place in the world. she loved her children and her relationship with her mother was so close and special. >> thank you so much and i appreciate you taking the time talking. >> next, the message on the banner on covid lock down. the man who hung it up has not been seen since. 9 million people in china have been infected and janet yellen sounded the alarm on america's death and setting up the first show down in congress since the rerepublicans won the house. ) nope. fisher avoids them. (other money manager) well, you u must earn commissios on trades. (fisher investments) never at fisisher. (other money manager) ok, then you probably sneak in some hidden and layered fees. (fisher investments) no. we structure our fees so we do better when our clients do better. that might be why most of our clients
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the words written on them, so brazenly defiant, they make the average chinese person tremble. they called for an end to zero covid and kyriexi jinping's rul. a man hung the banners days before the communist party congress in october. smoke was set off to craw draw attention. the message broadcast over loudspeaker. public displays of dissent towards the communist party and xi jinping are rare and dangerous in china. he was taken away by authorities and hasn't been seen since. some in china are calling him a lone warrior and caromparing hi to the resident who stood in front of a line in of tanks during the crackdown on peaceful pro-democracy protesters around tiananmen square. activists believe the banner man
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has a few social media accounts under the name of -- cnn has not independently confirmed his identity. authorities scrubbed every trace of these images from chinese social media. but the words lived on. they soon started to appear in, of all places, public bathrooms. because it's one of the few places in tightly surveilled china without security cameras, this man graffitied the same slogans in a bathroom in southwest china. i had to wear a mask, he said, and when i was writing i was worried someone might catch me. it's so pathetic. we have been suppressed like this. even just scribbling anti-government slogans in bathrooms is dangerous in china. but what followed shocked the world. less than two months later the exact same slogans were chanted in unprecedented anti-zero-covid policy protests across china.
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we want freedom, not covid tests, they chanted. we want freedom, not lockdowns. we want dignity, not lies. we want votes. in shanghai, some even shouted the most dangerous demand. step down, communist party. step down, xi jinping. this man who graffitied in the bathroom participated in his city's anti-covid protest. i had never imagined that in china we would see this, he said. i realized that many people are just like us. they are not satisfied with this political system or the society. when asked what he would say to the man who hung the banners, if given the chance, he said -- >> everything he did was meaningful and he has had a great impact on us young people am. he showed us as human beings we can protest against unfairness. police cracked down on the
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protesters. violently pushing and dragging some, arresting many of the young idealistic demonstrators. weeks after the protests the chinese government suddenly abandoned zero covid. relief rippled through the country. but then seemingly overnight the government went from harsh lockdowns to suddenly allowing the virus to rip uncontrolled. hospitals are now overwhelmed and crematoriums packed with people waiting to burn the dead bodies of their loved ones. but many chinese people are just happy to have their lives back while the man who sparked the chants for freedom, not louns, may never be seen again. we may never know how much of an impact the protests had on the chinese government's decision to drop zero covid. considering this government's obsession with control for three years of the pandemic, this sudden and chaotic reopening has
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been shocking. the protesters we spoke to said they will never forget the legacy of the man who hung the banners. they say he planted a seed in the country and made people realize that even if the outcome is not exactly twhat they hoped for, they can speak out against injustices and make their voices heard. >> selina, thank you very much. int next, a showdown shaping up in congress over america's debt. but thanks to the right plan promise from unitedhealthcare she got a medicare plan expert to help guide her with the right care team behind her. the right plan promise only from unitedhealthcare. for expedia members, travel doesn't end at booking. it's getting a discount on your trip, plus pnts for your future travels. so you c think about the next trip. and the next trip and the next next trip. so wherever you go,
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than a week courting to the treasury secretary janet yellen. yellen saying extraordinary measures will need to be taken. this issue setting up the first major showdown in the new congress and default og on the debt could spell disaster for the u.s. economy and force the government to delay things like veterans benefits and social security payments. the last time the country faced a debt fight this bad, the united states lost its crucial aaa credit rating from standard & poor's 11 years ago. 4,180 days to be exact. it's an issue we watched closely over 11 years ago. >> it has been 59 days since the u.s. lost the top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? >> apparently nothing. america's debt has doubled since i said those words. thanks for joining us. "ac-360" starts now. good