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well, the new house judiciary chairman, jim jordan, announcing he's launching an investigation into the doj's actions related to president biden's handling of classified documents. he's demanding the department turn over a variety of information including all communications related to yesterday's appointment of special counsel. it's hard to believe this is what's happening one week ago, but at just about exactly this time there was a complete chaos on the house floor. a lawmaker lunging at another lawmaker, and we still didn't

know way back then because last year was a whole year -- last week a whole year didn't know if kevin mccarthy would actually become speaker. what a difference a week makes, and of course when you think about in washington, d.c. every minute seems to be a new, well, crisis to avert or try to maintain. i want to bring in michael shnell, congressional reporter for the hill. and lia donovan. let me bring you into this conversation because, look, we're talking about what happened last week. i bet this week biden wishes there was maybe a 16, 17th, 18th round of the speaker votes. he had a higher approval rating than he had in the past, but this is a crisis now that's starting to spiral. what do you make of it? >> this is a big deal, and again you mention last week the focus was on the speaker's race. it was on the cay and the

disarray within the republican conference. that got squared away and this week we saw republicans dominate the house floor, bring up a number of bills, but republicans had that success on the floor, so they moved the waves for them, and now it's democrats who are in the spotlight as something some troubles with this handling of president biden's documents. and now bleeding over to as you mentioned the house judiciary committee. this is headed by jim jordan, a close ally of president trump and someone whose hamade looking into the federal government and looking into those investigations a priority of his in the 118th congress. so republicans right now are excited about the prospect of being able to look into this investigation and the mishandling of documents by biden particularly after they had a pretty chaotic week last week. as you mentioned the change quite a difference a week can make but also shifted the tide in terms of democrats are doing and how republicans are doing. >> a good point thinking about, well, you may be thinking about

salivating about the fact there's some ammunition here and the idea how this goes. but i do wonder because of this changing tide michael is talking about will the biden administration realistically be bogged down by this? >> he can't help but have to deal with this. we're careening from news cycle to news cycle. you're always one news cycle away from your time in the barrel, but i think the hope is it turns the page quickly to the next one. i think we mentioned this earlier but when we have the debt ceiling fight looming i think they like to accelerate that. it reminds me of the 2020 election where it did seem like anyone in the news was losing ground so the goal was to stand back and let the other side fumble things away. but the more the spotlight is on the president and his actions and that split screen to the comparison to former president trump and the muddying of the waters there i think is unhelpful. >> obviously we know trump is running for re-election.

some say he's walking towards re-election. at this point we're not hearing a whole lot from him at this point in terms of where he was before. but we haven't yet heard the confirmation or intention biden intends to run again. having said that i wonder just because the spotlight is there, does it necessarily mean that the average voter is leaning into this. do you think that this is an issue that voters care about to the level that it's being focused on? >> i think it's one of the issues that voters care about for president biden and former president donald trump. so i don't think we can compare both of these cases. they have similar variables but very different, i think, intent and knowledge when we talk about the way we describe how president trump has handled the situation and how president biden has handled the situation. we can't ignore the fact that coming out of the mid-term as successful as the dems were,

people probably thought that within the first couple of week of the new year the administration would announce a re-elect. and this might have delayed it. do i think this puts him out of the running, no. but do they want to get ahead of this, and if there are anymore documents let the process play out. now, here's the one thing i think could be interesting. trump's case could get finished before biden's case. and so if trump is not indicted or is not convicted, he's in the clear, and then you have this lingering in the news cycle for joe biden, and they may both be presidential candidates. that's not good for the biden campaign or potential biden campaign. so i think they want to be transparent, continue to -- as people are asking questions, tell the truth. but i don't think this knocks them out of the running. >> the timing of the crinology of things i wonder which will resolve itself first. we have a new special counsel. but talking about the distractions and the tennis

match of this problem and this problem and the volleying, michael, what are you hearing on the hill about what is going to be the next big fight? you're talking about the debt ceiling of course. you do have secretary yellen saying we're going to hit it i think the 17th or next thursday it's coming. but some economists are saying, hold on, you're not going to default until maybe june if that's an issue. that doesn't give a lot of people a lot of confidence. if you were the credit ower, it would not be okay with the credit card companies, i would point that out. but what do you hear about this idea of the upcoming fight about the debt ceiling? >> we're sort of at the start right now that will likely be a six-month fight, negotiation about the debt ceiling. a lot of conservatives in those mccarthy holdouts had said we will not raise the debt ceiling unless that is coupled with a decrease in discretionary spending. so that of course frightened some democrats. we saw the white house press

secretary today said we want to raise the debt ceiling to no conditions. so i think people are realizing on the hill this is not going to be an issue that gets resolved overnight, even likely a month or month and a half. this is going to be a real long debate or negotiation. as things go on capitol hill you don't see much progress unfortunately until you get to the last minute. i think that's an indication secretary yellen coming out and saying we're going to hit it soon but those extraordinary measures coming to place. this will clock on what will likely be like i said a six-month process to likely do something about the debt ceiling. >> is it in the interest of the parties to have these earnest negotiations quickly? sore is there something enticing about the dragging out, the waiting until the last minute? >> well, you can't really get to the end game until it is much closer. that level of pressure is just inherent to any must pass vehicles in washington, d.c. but i think it's important give how quickly this times move by to the extent there's going to be negotiations you better get

started or at least on the republican side figure out what you want. michael mentioned they want some cuts. you need to unite behind 218 votes and what that can get. otherwise you have no leverage and easy to cast just intransigents. the more people emboldened to stand on their side you get into this fight where it's a last game of chicken. >> and you might be playing the game of chicken within your own party. normally the expectation is republicans against democrats. circle last week it was republicans against republicans lunging at each other on the house floor. i think to your point is it better to draw it out or get it done quickly, it depends on how the story unfolds and depends on how you tell the story to the american people. coming out of a mid-term republicans promised to deliver for americans lower prices. well, if you're going to let us default on our debt and potentially crash our opportunity, that's an opportunity for dems to message

properly. >> well, to quote the speaker of the house it's not how you start, it's how you finish. you all remember that, right? ingrained in our minds now. i want to turn to someone now who knows a lot about handling a white house crisis. joe lockhart was named white house press secretary three days before the house voted to impeach bill clinton in 1998. i'm glad you're here, joe. nice to see you and bring you into the conversation because i'm wondering and a lot of people are looking at these issues. and they're saying, look, the classified documents, discussion, the mace handling, the comparisons being drawn whether their apropos or not a lot of focus is on the pr aspect of this. why didn't voter nose sooner, is there a base of questions resulting, is it because of doj, is it tot ini wonder what your assessment is as you take it all in from your prior position how this is being handled.

>> well, i think you're right. i think this essentially until we get to the bottom of it is a pr political problem. and i think what you see is political communicators instincts when they see a fire is to try to put it out. and that is often the exact wrong thing, because what that does is give it oxygen. you find out something that was true on one day may not be true on the next day. what they should do, i think, and i think you've seen this the last couple of days is just turn it over to the department of justice and special counsel and say this is the proper place for it to be looked at and not spend every day answering whatever the question of the day is. i think the second thing they need to do and then should do is draw contrast, and i think on two fronts they can do that. they are not in a position to criticize donald trump any longer. but they can act much differently than donald trump

did. donald trump spent months and months trying to stonewall the department of justice. this white house should be cooperative at every turn. the second thing -- and i think this is just as important is -- president biden can't get bogged down in this. he has to show the american public that he's focused on them. and contrast that with someone like congressman jordan who will, you know, take his jacket off, roll-up his sleeves and scream and yell, and, you know, it's one of the most dependable things i think in washington, which is this crowd of republicans will always overreact. and if you just let them do that, that will work to your benefit. >> it's interesting to think about the way you suggest to navigate. and some see it as a little counter intuitive. you want to always get ahead of this, the phrase people think about is be responsive. and that is odd to think about as the way in which is the appropriate way. you were someone part of the clinton administration during the lewinsky scandal, so you well know about the idea how

things can continue to spiral and haunt. and i'm also wondering, though, if it's not just the special counsel, you mentioned congressman jim jordan. you've got the special counsel. you've got congressional investigations from everything from the withdrawal from afghanistan to conversations around the origins of covid to hunter biden and beyond. i wonder is the advice or is it prudent to fight back at each turn? or is it the idea of keeping ones powder dry and choosing your battles? >> well, i think it just depends on the issue. and on this particular issue i think the approach should be to be cooperative and to try to not delegitimize the process. because that draws a very strong contrast with the way donald trump has gone about it. there's another way they should fight. when you talk about the origins of covid i'm all for republicans

holding a hearing on that and having scientists come in and teach them something for a change. but i think in this particular area, you know, there's vulnerability because these documents exist. they shouldn't be where they were found. but almost every time these things are judged when you look at the end not by what happened, not what was in the documents but how the staff around the president and the president handled it. and i think if they can -- if hay handled it in a way that shows transparency and openness, and in some ways the special counsel is a gift to them because it allows them to shutdown a lot of this until a third party rules on it or makes some sort of judgment. their judgment now is not particularly credible with republicans, not particularly credible with reporters. so what i think they're counting on is to move quickly, be cooperative, and have the special counsel come out and

say, you know, there's nothing there. we know, though, from if you look back as recently as 2016 there was nothing in hillary clinton's e-mails. that story was all about process, and they contributed in a very strong way to her defeat in donald trump's election. so i think there's a lot of lessons in there about not getting drawn into the process stories, letting the justice department do their work, and focusing on all of the other agenda items you're trying to get done. >> well, we'll see if they listen to you, if past is prologue. thank you so much. nice to talk to you. well, everyone, listen, i have lottery tickets and we're going to be checking them because the mega millions drawing was just a few moments ago. and the jackpot an estimated $1.35 billion, yes, with "b" which is the second largest in history for those of you keeping track. here are the winning numbers. i can look at it right now. i memorized the first three

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boys. prosecutors alleging the defendants were among the first wave of rioters to brief the building. it capitol police inspector, tom lloyd, detailing to the jury today how rioters swarmed the capitol and its officers on january 6th recalling the harrowing moments when officer eugene goodman led the crowd including one of the alleged defendants away from the senate chambers. telling the jury that, quote, if those doors had been breached, more than likely there would have been gunfire. joining me now the huff post senior editor andy campbell and also the author of "we are proud boys." some of the most impactful moments people remember on what happened on january 6th includes some of the allegations towards, against these proud boys. and i'm wondering you're watching this trial saying there's a lot we still don't really know publicly. what are we looking for here?

>> well, look, the doj has an uphill battle here in getting seditious conspiracy convictions because they have to prove that these guys not only acted out january 6th but that they had an agreement prior to overthrow the government, and that's not an easy thing to do. but they have a mountain of evidence, in this media they showed today, in text messages that they have from the proud boys that show that the moment donald trump got on the presidential debate stage in 2020 and said stand back, standby proud boys, it's that famous moment. these guys started gearing up for what they themselves describe as civil war. january 6th was their last stand for the president they'd been fighting for in the street for years up until that point. and so certainly they started amassing recruits. they started amassing equipment, and then on january 6th they storm the capitol. and they showed that today. but it's interesting that it may

look like it's a layup to convict a number of these five defendants on seditious conspiracy charges. the defense also has a few aces up its sleeve. >> like what? >> one of the most -- well, the most impactful thing that the defense for ethan nordine, one of the defendants came up with, he said they have testimony from fbi informants who were embedded with the proud boys who marched with them towards the capitol that day and was in their text messages. they say that these informants are going to argue that the proud boys did not have a plan previously to storm the capitol, that this was kind of a herd mentality thing that cropped up randomly. i don't know how compelling that testimony will be. i don't know how it will go to cross-examination, but we'll see. it could be compelling and good for the defense. >> a really important point, again, prosecution has the burden of proof. and although there was the

successful prosecution and conviction on several charges including the conspiracy charges for the oath keepers, every trial will be separate. and the idea of proving conspiracy is not an easy one. and there's not that big track record of precedent on these matters. but, you know, there also is this idea of looking not at just whether there was a plan. the defense is raising statements such as, look, not us. look at trump trying to extend a 10 foot pole away from themselves. do you think that will be successful especially given what a jury who's likely seen the january 6th committee presentation of evidence as well, or their own eyes being residents of d.c. might reveal? >> well, look, this defense team is huge, and it contains a range of characters some of whom are very serious and some of whom went completely off the rails in court over the past few days. one of them argued, like you said, it wasn't my client, it was trumpmism trump is the one who brought everyone to d.c. and

trump is the one who sent them on the march to the capitol and of course didn't call off the violence when it happened. one of the other defense attorneys argued that january 6th was a 6-hour bad day for congress but it wasn't that big of a deal. he said if this was an attack, it's the lamest attack i've ever seen. so some of these attorneys are not making good cases for their clients. really i think for me going forward what i'd like to see the prosecution do is, you know, if they have bigger fish to fry here, look at the proud boys connections to trump's inner circle. we know that the leaders here urembedded with roger stone, trump's top confidante, and we know they were in there that day. learn more through testimony from proud boys ready to testify against themselves what the connection was to trump's inner

circle and who knew what going into this. >> well, listen, as they might be saying in the courtroom earlier with oral arguments with the opening statements the night is young and so is the case. i suspect there's a lot more to get to, and you've written the book, everyone, about the proud boys, "we are proud boys." andy campbell, thank you so much. >> thank you. well, tonight a judge ordered a court deposition of former president donald trump to be unsealed. this is in the defamation case stemming from a rape accusation made against the former president by former magazine columnist e. jean carol. in that deposition which she fought to keep sealed and which took place under oath trump said this of the allegation, quote, but it's a false accusation, never happened, never would, unquote. now, carol accuses trump of raping her in a new york department store in the mid-1990s, and in his testimony trump also criticized carol as

what he called a quote-unquote nut job and called the allegations a con job and a big fat hoax. trump testified -- and again this is under oath -- that he did not know carol, that he never pressured a woman to have sex with him, and that she isn't his type, saying he wasn't trying to insult her, but, quote, because i was offended at this woman's lie. because i was offended that she could make up a story out of cold air. we'll follow this story as well. but up next, nfl playoffs are beginning tomorrow, and the biggest story of the season damar hamlin's onfield collapse could have consequences for how that goes. and still ahead, a leopard on the loose. how did the cat get out of its habitat. the zoo thinks in dallas it was, quote, intentional.

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well, the nfl playoff set to kick off tomorrow afternoon, and among the teams playing the buffalo bills. they're going to take on the miami dolphins on sunday 1:00 p.m. east, just shy of the two weeks since damar hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest on the field during the game against the cincinnati bengals. thankfully hamlin was discharged from the hospital earlier this week and is now recovering at home. joining me now cnn contributor and legendary sports person bob costas. glad to have you on tonight. you know, it's good news about damar hamlin, and people are looking also now to what this means two weeks after and the

playoffs have now started. they've had to retool a bit to take account for that game having not been played. what happens? >> yeah. well, if it had happened earlier in the season when teams have by weeks they could have figured out how to get it. have these two teams on the field when the incident happened, have them play this week when everybody else sits around and wits. that would be not just inconvenient but would be competitively difficult for the other teams involved in the playoffs, plus it would have compressed the two weeks between the conference championships and the super bowl to one week. and the super bowl is such an extravaganza now, the logistics when you don't know which two teams are going to be involved until two weeks before and then it would be just a week before. the hotels, the tickets, all the logistics of that would be almost impossible or at least very daunting to undertake. so what they decided to do was just say, look, two teams, the

bengals and the bills played 16 games. everybody else played 17. now, had the ravens beaten the bengals last weekend, then they would have had to have flipped a coin to see which team was home for their playoff game this weekend. but the bengals eliminated that problem by beating the ravens. they will play again in the playoffs this weekend, but it will be in cincinnati. the more interesting thing was the bills and the kansas city chiefs. the chiefs finished 14-3. the bills finished 13-3. it wouldn't be either to suppose a victory or suppose a loss. but if the bills had won that game and finished 14-3 they would have had the number one seed because they beat kansas city in a regular season game, so they would have had this weekend off as the chiefs now do, and they would have had home field against kansas city should they meet in the afc championship game. the way it is now if both teams

make it to the afc championship game, the league has decided that game will be played at a neutral site which hasn't been decided yet, which seems to be the most -- in a difficult situation the most reasonable way to resolve it. got all that, laura? >> i got it all. there'll be a pop quiz for everyone in the world. you explained it very well. what can't be explained, though, an issue people are looking at still is what's happening involving an issue involving the russian anti-doping agency. we talked about this in the past as well. they cleared the russian figure skater saying she violated anti-doping rules but bore, quote, no fault or negligence after testing positive for a banned substance back in december of 2021. but now the world doping agency is take them under review. what's happened? what's your take? >> well, here's the take.

first of all, rusata, which is the russian anti-doping agency, if you can really call it anti-. they have no credibility in this. everybody knows dating back to the days of the soviet union, the soviet union and now russia have run a sophisticated state operated doping program. in fact, they did it right under the noses of the ioc when they hosted the winter olympics in sochi, changing out urine samples right there while they were hosting the games. and they'll do it again in some form or fashion because that's just what they do. on the other hand, them saying -- this tribunal saying that she had no fault or negligence on her own probably makes sense. because, unfortunately, 15 years old she's just at the mercy of this sports machine. she may well not have known what was being administered to her, and even if she did she had no

choice to say i'm not going to do this. this is brutal system. in fact those who watched the olympics may remember when she faltered and she was favored to win the gold medal, when she faltered in the singles and finished fourth, she began to cry and she came off the ice. and here was her coach berating her. why did you quit, why are you so soft? why don't you try harder? this is not a warm and fuzzy situation. so i don't think much of the world accepts this as credible. i don't think they want to blame a 15-year-old girl for it, but they know what the russian sports machine is about. so the world anti-doping association will appeal to the court of arbitration for sport, which sort of rules on these international things. and what's at stake would be the gold medal in the team figure skating, which valieva helped the russians win. the americans, by the way, finished second and took the silver. if they overturned that then the

american team would be awarded the gold. >> bob costas from nfl and brackets to all the way to figure skating. perfect. thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. have a good night, what's left of it. >> you, too. there's a lot left on the west coast so enjoy that. everyone, there's also more questions than answers tonight, sadly, over the sudden death of lisa marie presly. we're going to give you an update next.

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hollywood and graceland reacting to the sudden passing of lisa marie presley. she died last night hours after

being hospitalized following an apparent cardiac arrest. in her last public appearance lisa marie attended the golden globes on tuesday night in l.a. where actor austin butler won for his portrayal of her late father in the movie "elvis." here's her in one of her last interviews where she spoke to entertainment tonight on the red carpet. >> hey, lisa, how are you? what was it like -- what was it like watching him? >> hey. >> hi, lisa, how are you doing? >> i hear a lot about you. >> thank you. i hear a lot about you. >> yeah? >> absolutely. >> what was it like watching austin on stage and during this movie and the making of this movie? >> it was mind-blowing, truly mind-blowing. i really didn't know what to do with myself after -- after i saw it. i had to take like five days to

process it because it was so incredible and so spot on and so authentic that, yeah, i can't even describe what it meant. >> cnn's senior international correspondent kyung lah is here. what are you learning about the family's plans ahead? >> reporter: we're just hearing from a family spokesperson who says that presley's final resting place will be at graceland. you know, that was her father's historic home, and she will be laid to rest next to her son, ben, who died by suicide two years ago. and that is really being marked and honored by her ex-husband, nicholas cage. he released a statement saying, quote, lisa had the greatest laugh of anyone i ever met. she lit up every room, and i am heartbroken. i find some solace believing she is reunited would her son,

benjamin. and we're also hearing from the michael jackson estate on lisa marie presley, the deceased pop star, of course, was married to presley. and in that statement the estate says, quote, michael cherished the special bond they enjoyed and was comforted by lisa marie's generous love, concern, and care during their times together. laura, there's still as you mentioned a lot of questions. you know, we don't have autopsy results. we don't have toxicology results. we're not really sure what happens moving forward, but those certainly could potentially answer exactly why a 54-year-old woman would suddenly suffer from cardiac arrest. >> in fact, she was just at graceland just on sunday, right, giving a speech in what would be her father's 88th birthday. what can you tell us about that? >> you're right about that, laur ma a. it's a big moment and something she absolutely marked.

she said she had withdrawn from public view. she noted she didn't want to be so public, but it was this moment, her father's 88th birthday had he lived that brought her out to talk to fans. take a listen. >> love you. >> it's been a while. i missed you. >> we love you, lisa! >> and i love you. i keep saying you're the only people that can bring me out my house. i'm not kidding. >> you go, girl. >> we love you. >> and i love you back, and that's why i'm here. so today he would have been 88 years old. it's hard to believe. >> and laura, you may have seen that in the bug in the corner, in the graphic in the corner it says sunday. that was just this past sunday. so she had two very big public appearances shortly before she

suffered from this cardiac arrest. >> kyung, thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan rhiner, the director of the cardiac cprogra. i'm glad to lean on your expertise. there are so many questions. this was a 54-year-old woman dying of cardiac arrest which i know really is the heart stopping. but i'm wondering when you look at a case like this or hearing about it how should people be thinking about this? is it the same as a heart attack or is the language distinct for a reason? >> so first of all this is obviously a tragedy. a 54-year-old person dying suddenly at home is unexpected and really sad. it's important to understand that cardiac arrest, which literally means the heart stopping is not the same as a heart attack. now, heart attack is when the heart muscle dies when the

supply of blood to the muscle is interrupted. and that can cause the heart to stop. that can cause a cardiac arrest. but there are many, many possible causes of a cardiac arrest that don't have to do with a primary cardiac problem. and time will tell. if there's an autopsy and as kyung said if there's toxicology, we'll have a sense whether there was a noncardiac etiology, a noncardiac cause for lisa marie's death. and i think in an otherwise healthy 54-year-old noncardiac causes rise to the top of the list. >> the idea of noncardiac causes i've also learned about the idea how it can present differently, for example, in a woman than a man. are there things you hope people are educated more about based on something like this? >> well, first of all, you know, we've seen in damar hamlin's

happy ending we've seen the importance of cpr. and with these high profile cardiac arrests i think it's important for the public to understand that many of these lives can be saved if if the first responders even when they're not trained medical professionals immediately start cpr. so when someone has a cardiac arrest the clock starts. and within just a few minutes brain injury will occur, but you can temporize until paramedics come by starting cpr immediately. and if you haven't taken cpr class, go ahead and do that. learn how to use an aud. >> that's very important. and i hope everyone heeds that important advice. thank you. >> thank you, laura. well, a cage cut, a leopard on the lam, a day long search at the zoo, and investigators say

it looks like it was no accident. >> it is our belief that this was an intentional act. and so we have started a criminal investigation.

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well, lions and tigers and leopards now, oh, my. what happened at the dallas zoo today? cnn's ed lavandera is here. ed, nice to see you, but i'm hearing that a leopard got loose today. what more do we know? >> yes. well, it was a clouded leopard that was here at the dallas zoo, and it was an incredibly hectic day for the humans on the ground. but by the sounds of it a rather

chill day for nova the clouded leopard. late this afternoon officials found the clouded leopard and it took about 30 minutes to get her back inside where they wanted to get her. but this was discovered early this morning here at the dallas zoo when the animal care takers arrived and they noticed that there was an opening in the fenced enclosure where -- there are two clouded leopards live here, their habitat. and they spent much of the day looking for her. now, zoo officials had been saying throughout the day they did not believe the clouded leopard ventured too far away. by nature these are animals that live in treetops and don't venture far away from the habitats their accustomed to. while the humans were finding her you almost get the impression the clouded leopard was on the treetops watching all the commotion below her perhaps. but investigators here say they believe that enclosure or that cut in the fence was

intentionally done, and they've launched a criminal investigation. >> that's unbelievable. it's very scary to think about. and all is well hopefully that ends well here. the idea they had to try to find the leopard, what did they do? did they shutdown the zoo? was it even open? were patrons there while this was happening? i can't imagine as a mom having a kid yanking at my jacket saying, mom, i want to look over here. what were they trying to do? >> it did setup some alarm bells this morning that the zoo was closed all day long. the dallas s.w.a.t. team was called out to here, but that was just the initial call. zoo officials said this is an animal 25 pounds, a little bit bigger than a normal house cat but not quite as big as a bobcat. they initially described nova the clouded leopard as an animal nondangerous. they were urging people to be careful, and there was some concern the cat might venture away from the dallas zoo, and

some parts of the zoo are surrounded by residential neighborhoods, so there was some concern. but they seemed very confident throughout much of the day that nova the cat was going to stay very close to that enclosure and sounds like that's what happened. >> who would cut a fence like that and indendanger an animal everybody else as well. glad to know they got to the bottom of it tonight. thank you so much. and everyone, thanks for watching. our coverage continues.

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