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launching an investigation into the justice department's actions related to president joe biden's handling of classified documents. he demanded the justice department turn over documents including all the communications related to the appointment of a special counsel. the letter sets a deadline of january 27th. this comes as the biden administration deals with other questions of transparency and omissions so far from its public account of what happened. cnn's phil mattingly joins us with the latest on that. is there any indication that the white house is going to publicly fill in some of the gaps here? >> if anything, anderson, according to senior white house officials i've been speaking to the opposite is more likely the case. they'll maintain this posture of not saying really anything at all about the way this investigation plays out. the way it was complained to me about their current approach it needs to be by the book. and given the fact an investigation is under way, they do not want to engage for risk of, one, potentially upsetting those doing the investigation. and two, ensuring there's no sense somebody's trying to shift
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how things may go. now, that doesn't mean there's not significant work under way inside the white house right now to prepare for this moment. just keep in mind over the course of the last couple of days the special counsel was not even on the radar. now it is a reality. they're working with both a small team of advisers for president biden but also inside and outside lawyers for an investigation that could take months if not longer, anderson. >> prior to the classification of these documents the biden administration was feeling good. >> when you look at the economic numbers, economic numbers that continued throughout the course of what had been almost a head spinning week because of this investigation and how it has played out. they had a very clear strategy and almost schedule to some degree for the president in the months ahead as nay implemented their legislative agenda, as they moved towards a potential re-election campaign. what's been interesting is just how stunned many advisers have been throughout the week with each successive drip of new information. the special counsel being among them.
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they were not informed in advance. the president wasn't, the senior team wasn't. but there's also a sense particularly as you got to the end of this week and talk to senior white house officials at the end of this day they're recognizing right now for those not involved in the legal team, not involved in the process of dealing with the special counsel, business as usual is really the only option. trying to maintain the strategy that they were trying to put into place for this year, trying to maintain the schedule they wanted for the president going into this year. they're going to try to do everything as close to what they initially planned as possible in the hopes they can somehow push through their agenda. the reality is this has obviously swamped the overarching message of things, the overarching coverage of this white house over the last five days. whether or not they can kind of plow through that is an open question but one they believe they can do. obviously, anderson, this is a very different moment this friday night than they were facing monday morning. they believe they can work within that reality. obviously we'll see as the weeks play out. >> phil mattingly, appreciate
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it. perspective now from cnn senior law enforcement analyst and deputy director andrew mccabe. given everything you know so far about president biden's recovered classified documents if you were leading the investigation where would you start? what questions need to be answered immediately? >> the most fundamental piece of any investigation into the spill of classifieds, which is what we refer to whenever classified information ends up supply it's not to be is conduct an investigation have we created a national security threat here? they want to look at exactly what was outside that authorizized space and determine if sources and methods have been placed into jeopardy. after that you get to how did this happen part of the investigation, and that starts with day one. who packed this stuff up? who transported it? how was it transported? how was it stored when it got to its ultimate location? who had access to that space? you know, just walk through the very logical progression of who could possibly have been exposed to this stuff and when.
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>> the biden administration says they're cooperating with the department of justice so far. how does that impact the approach by the doj, and if the level of cooperation changes i assume the doj tactics shift in some way. >> certainly. certainly. so you know the -- there's a lot of concern about how long this inquiry is going to take. well, if it remains on this very cooperative footing, it could go very quickly. one of the reasons why the trump review has taken so long is because the trump team has bitterly fought doj at every turn. they've gone into court and filed motions, filed an extra court case about having a special master appointed. so i don't anticipate any of that sort of resistance from the biden team. they've leaned very far forward in alerting the archives and doj, bringing everyone's attention to the issue. so if that continues, they could actually cut through this investigation in just a few months. >> chairman jim jordan announced this house judiciary committee investigations into the doj
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actions related to the president's handling of the classified documents today. how much does that impact the doj ongoing investigation? >> well, i think the doj will likely -- i certainly would advise them if they were willing to listen to my advice, i would advise them to take a very hard line against that. there's a clear precedent here of not sharing information from an ongoing criminal investigation with congress. and i think doj is in a very strong position to resist on those grounds. who knows what comes of that resistance. maybe doj leadership starts getting subpoenaed, and ultimately that fight will end up in the courts. and that could drag things out. that's going to be an additional distraction to doj. but it shouldn't disrupt the actual conduct of the investigation. so that's a -- it'll be a separate but related set of stressors that doj has to deal with. >> and right now, i mean, you have a sitting president. you have a former president who's already declared candidacy
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both under investigation by separate special counsels appointed by the attorney general. this seems pretty unprecedented, no? >> it's absolutely unprecedented. i can't think of another situation even remotely like it. i think it was a very astute move by the attorney general to appoint a special counsel in the biden inquiry. i think it's essential that these inquiries are treated exactly the same at their inception, given the same sort of resources and attention and priority and of course special counsels. but at this point, anderson, they become entirely different and totally independent. the facts are very different. the way their respective teams are treating their interactions with doj are very different. and they could come to very different results. >> andrew mccabe, appreciate it. i want to talk now about the political fallout, which could be considerable and unwelcome to the administration. as phil mattingly mentioned with inflation cooling, gas prices dropping, and the president's approval numbers growing in the polls at least before this,
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joining us is cnn's senior political analyst david gergen, white house insider for republican and democrats alike dating back to the nixon years. and former republican congressman charlie dent, and also a washington bureau chief for the boston globe. david gergen, let's start with you. how big a mess is this for the biden administration? >> it's very, very big. not legally but politically that's is a very big deal. this was a president marching upward. for the first time in his presidency his numbers up, people feeling better about the economy. there were all sorts of reasons to believe he could not present himself -- the fears people like me have about can he govern well, those fears would be dissipated if he were able to stay on that track. but now along comes this gigantic story, which was totally unexpected. but i do think that they -- the biden people, they may be making
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a big misstake here. anderson, and i may be wrong about this. they've done a wonderful job being cooperative with the government and they've done it, quote, by the books as they were saying. but i don't think sitting down there hunkering down now, they're acting like it's not out there. they're going to get creamed during that. >> there's also been the drip, drip, drip of information. some of that unpreventable because they didn't know a special counsel was coming. but they did know when they had the president talk about the first batch of documents that were found, they'd already known there were other documents found. you'd think they might have just, you know, announced that all at once. >> exactly. that's why they could have put that out there. as matters now stand that long delay in putting it out there is going to encourage people to believe what are they hiding? >> yeah. >> and that's where they -- there is a temptation in everyone one these kind of crises to hunker down, and it's the wrong temptation.
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you go all the way back to iran contra and other crises like that. you've got to get the facts out. these are the facts we know, there are some facts we don't know, and we'll keep you posted. >> jackie, do you think this largely takes away the ability to criticize the handling -- how often does nuance break through in political discourse those days really? >> that's the thing, right? this definitely muddies the waters in a way that republicans are elated about. going into in particular on the house republican majority there was a concern these would be fishing expeditions and because of this they were thrown a fish and they were able to grab onto something, and this does use the ability to criticize former president trump in the same way. and let's be clear this isn't happening in a vacuum. we all kind of expect biden to announce his plans for the
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coming presidential election in short order. we think at the beginning of this year. so does this affect -- i think there's a real question does it affect at that timing -- should this continue in the weeks and months to come? >> the chairman of the house judiciary committee jim jordan is launching this investigation into the doj. should the biden administration be concerned about republican oversight on this? >> absolutely they should because jim jordan must be absolutely giddy and salivating over this. i mean politically as just discussed the waters have been muddied. even though there are real differences between the two cases, but, you know, joe biden he ran for president on being competent. this looks like he was careless or reckless or his people were. i mean for him to go out there and say -- first, bad news does not get better with time. the fact they're releasing this with bits and pieces, oh, yeah, we found some with the corvette and locked in the garage, this is not helping his case.
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and plus now there's a special counsel appointed, again, that's more reasons for republicans to picket them. what they'll find out, i have no idea. but as a political matter i think republicans are thrilled because this really diverts attention away from many of their own problems. and so they should be -- they're in a much better position than they were one week ago. >> david, i guess if republicans -- is there a catch-22 for them? if they cry foul about this, about the mishandling by the biden administration, wouldn't that also put attention on president trump's handling? >> i think they've gotten a little overheated here in the last few days in their criticism. and i do think they are the ones who ought to step back and let the story be told by others. among other things right now, anderson, when you're in one of these situations in the white house you've got your team -- your party is out and the congress and elsewhere, and you need to feed them things that they can use to defend you with. and the biden people are not providing them the handles of
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the argument, the counter arguments. one of the things for example to take some of the sting off this to me is what we've experienced in recent years we've had an explosion in the number of documents that are classified. >> there's overclassification. >> over classification. pat moynihan 15 years ago headed up a bipartisan commission to look at secrecy and what he found was there are 2 million people in the federal government who could slap classifications on documents, and there were 1 million people in private industry who had the capacity to put classifications on documents. and so naturally things just took off. and it made people inside the government increasingly complacent. and what you're seeing, i think, and find some of these documents in a garage for god's sakes is a sloppiness, a massive sloppiness on people who don't understand -- and actually this was quite sensitive. we should take this seriously. but they've been engulfed by a lot of this other stuff where, you know, as jim sciutto was
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saying earlier today on this channel, you know, he said basically you used to have a sandwich down for lunch and then you put a stamp out and you have to put in a classification on it. >> you mentioned this before do you think this impacts biden's expected announcement for running? >> i don't know. i don't know, anderson. i think it really depends. i don't think his going to affect his decision whether or not to run, certainly. going into this year as phil mattingly mentioned, you know, you had the senate, republicans were in complete disarray fighting amongst themselves, the economy getting better and biden touting the achievements from the last year, and this really has kind of hit a wall as a result of these revelations about these documents. so certainly it dampens the momentum that this white house had potentially going into a
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future announcement. >> and congressman, senator chris coons was arguing the republicans don't care about the classified documents, they're more concerned about gas prices, grocery prices. that's essentially the same argument republicans were making in the lead-up to the mid-term elections about stuff on russia. do you think coons is right? >> chris coons is a good friend, and i think he's generally right on this question. but, again, if you're joe biden you really don't want this issue around, the special counsel sniffing around. nothing goodwill come of it. and it's true biden has had good news and chris coons is right this is not the primary focus of voters. but not a great issue because it speaks to a carelessness or reckilousness where joe biden has done his best to contrast himself with donald trump who was always careless and reckless on many matters. and it just undermines his whole
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argument. but at the end of the right you're right, chris coons is right that most voters are concerned about the prices of gas and housing and everything else. coming up next reporting from "the new york times" about disturbing newly uncovered online teen postings from the alleged university of idaho killer from when he was a teenager and the profile about what he said what he described as the emptiness inside him. and the real problem of homelessness in san francisco, the logjam on implementing solutions and the extreme action one man was caught on camera taking. ipgo this whole thing wouldn't be a thing. yeah, dad! i don't want to deal with this. oh, you brought your luggage to the airport. that's adorable. with shipgo shipping your luggage before you fly you'll never have to wait around here again. like ever. that can't be comfortable though. shipgo.com
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new developments tonight. "the new york times" has obtained disturbing online postings from bryan kohberger, the alleged university of idaho killer from when he was a teenager. he writes, quote, i have no emotion, no opinion, no nothing. as i look into their faces i see nothing, it is like i am looking at a video game but less. he went onto write i could do, quote, whatever i want with little remorse. we should point out kohberger now 28 maintains his innocence. i want to get perspective now from intelligence chief john miller, deputy of counter terrorism with the department. let's talk about these postings, i mean it seems kind of textbook
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of -- well, how do you interpret it? >> as i went through the article and i saw how he feels, the depersonalization, the anxiety, depression, feelings of wanting to commit suicide, that's all very serious. and then he talks about this phenomena known as visual snow, then all of a sudden there seems to have been just a stop in -- in what's happening to him and he's able to go on, get a college degree, a masters degree, and apply for a ph.d. program. all of those things he's described can be life altering. they can really affect the long-term quality of his life. and to think that he was able to get over those -- that depression and that anxiety, the suicide thinking -- the suicide ideation without any kind of mental health assistance is really stunning to me. so i would think that if that
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was in fact how he was feeling at the time there should be a much more formal record of it. again, if it's not treated, if there's no help that would have impacted seriously the quality of life and affected his accomplishments as well. >> john, when you see those postings what do you think? >> i flashback to sitting in a brooklyn courtroom in 1977 listening to the psychiatrist at the competency hearing for david burkewits, the son of sam killer. and he explained his mental state and the judge said could you put that in laymans terms and he said in laymans terms he's emotionally dead. what's interesting he's describing a serial killer from many years ago is the very same way kohberger is describing himself on the development of this pathway. if you follow the pathway you see he finds his way into studying criminal behavior. he finds his way into a particular study he was the point person on where he asked criminals how did you feel when you did this, why did you do it
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that way, what did you leave behind. and talking to mary allen about this she said, you know, it's not structured as a real study. this is voyeurism. this is him trying to get into the feeling, which then leads to fantasies about acts, and then realization of those acts. and what's the first thing he does allegedly after these crimes that he's charged with is he returns to the scene the next morning before police have even been called to reimmerse himself in it. >> to you that study -- the quote-unquote study he was doing was very telling. >> the study he had -- that bryan had designed was very telling to me because from a research perspective who's a very poorly put together protocol. but as he's writing it and you follow through, he says at any point in the criminal behavior how were you feeling, awwhat we
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you thinking. and then when you saw the victim how were you feeling, what were you thinking? and as john said i found that to be voyeuristic just in terms of the kind of information he was attempting to elicit. that's not the basis for good research. now you have someone at the same time who's been to the crime scene house on approximately 12 ask as occasions. the victims obviously weren't aware of it. there's a sense of voyeuristic behavior there. and as john mentioned the morning of the murders he comes back to the scene presumably to see what is going on. again, evidence of voyeuristic behavior. evidence that he is thinking clearly inconsistent with the mental health issues that he raised when he was a teenager. >> john, it is kind of amazing when he went back home, oit's a isolated area. the fact law enforcement were able to monitor him and see him
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go out in the middle of the night and throw garbage out across at the neighbors. they did an amazing job. >> they did an extraordinary job putting together the pieces of the puzzle so it came together as one clear picture, a really interesting effort. but when you look at his behavior there. what's he doing? he's taking out the garbage, he's putting in the neighbor's garbage, he's wearing surgical gloves. one could project from that i'm not going to give the benefit of dna or fingerprint. as mary ellen just said, you know, he's still very much on point thinking, thinking about covering up or you could flip that and say i know i'm under surveillance and i'm playing cat and mouse with them. >> john miller, it's fascinating stuff. i appreciate it. thank you. coming up the outcry over video of a san francisco shop owner spraying a homeless woman and telling her to move. nick watt joins us now -- ahead. right after the break.
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a confrontation in a san francisco neighborhood between a homeless woman and an teaks dealer caught on tape shows the storeowner spraying her with a garden hose i telling her to move. it's become a flash point in the city's debate how to manage the homeless crisis. the video has upset many people. others see it as a symbol of a situation they believe happy literally left on their doorstep by city officials. cnn's nick watt has more. >> reporter: the person on the sidewalk is homeless, goes by the name "q." the guy with the garden hose is
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the owner of an upscale art and antiques gallery. >> i find it hard to apologize when we've had no help with the situation. we've called the police. >> i was outraged when i saw the video. >> reporter: trina co owns the bar next door says this. >> she has caused some trouble. she is mentally ill, and she screams obscenities. the city needs to take action and do something to get these people support and help that they need, not move them a few blocks away. that's not the solution. >> reporter: more than 4,000 people live on san francisco's streets by latest count in part because renting an average one-bedroom in this fashionable city now costs $3,000 a month, second only to new york city. >> the reality san francisco is only 7 by 7, 7 miles by 7 miles. so there's a new for more housing and more affordable housing. >> reporter: and nearly half of unhoused women in san francisco experience violence, according to a 2020 study. >> i don't think this is a san
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francisco problem. we're seeing this nationally. i think that the passerby that was filming it was bringing to light what's happening every day. >> reporter: in the city businesses have used plantars on the sidewalk to keep homeless away. neighbors on this street cobbled together $2,000 on a facebook group to buy boulders. the city did take them away. even at st. mary's cathedral the house of god installed sprinklers back in 2015 to prevent the needy from sleeping in her shadow. gwen who right now has this baroque italian cabinet on sale for $55,000 at his gallery also resorting to soaking the unhoused. >> as far as i'm concerned it's assault and there should be consequences. we know people are frustrated, but this is not the solution. >> i totally understand what an awful thing that is to do, but i
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also understand what an awful thing it is to be on the street. >> reporter: housing not hosing the homeless just might be a better solution. >> and nick watt joins us now from san francisco. where is that person now? >> reporter: well, anderson, "q," the homeless person is in a hospital getting some help. as for the guy with the hose his gallery is now closed. somebody has smashed the glass in the door and his case is now with the sfpd investigations bureau. >> a judge there just recently ruled about what can and can't be done about the homeless population. what was the ruling? >> reporter: yeah, so this judge said back in december that officials in this city can no longer do what they call encampment sweeps, getting tents off the street, confiscating peoples possessions. and the reason the judge said that they can't do that is
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because the city was not offering people viable alternatives to living on the street. this video really typifies a couple of the major issues with homelessness in this country. one is managing that coexistence between the unhoused and the housed. and the other is really getting people on the street the services and the help they need, connecting them with what they need. and, you know, to help them and to help everybody. >> appreciate it. thank you. coming up next exclusive audio from an iranian soccer player behind bars in the country's crack down on dissent and a daughter of one of the biggest thorns in putin's side, alexei navalny. that actively cools, warmswod and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number. (music throughout)
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right now a cnn exclusive, an appeal for help from an imprisoned iranian soccer player first sentenced to death and spared and now serving a 26-year sentence. he was accused back in november in connection with the killing of three security officers. supporters say he was forced into a confession, put through a sham trial, and is now being tortured behind bars. cnn's don riddell has more. >> reporter: amir has been living the dream as a professional football player in iran. but within the last few weeks his situation has turned into a nightmare.
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after protests swept through the country in september, iranian state media accused him of being a member of an armed group that was charged in the killing of three security officers in november. the government says that he confessed to participating in the crimes and now faces 26 years in prison. he denies that he's guilty, and his supporters claim he made a forced confession and was tortured in jail. in an exclusive voice message obtained by cnn with the help of an activist group he can be heard appealing for help from within the prison walls. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: he's been in jail since december, where his family is worried about his safety, as the government has already begun executing protesters.
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last saturday the islamic republic executed two more young men including a karate champion bringing the total number of executed protesters to four, according to the u.n.'s human rights service. he took up karate and won medals at iran's national championships. but during anti-government protests he was accused of killing a security officer, and following a rushed trial supposedly based on a false confession he was found guilty and executed just a month later. the human rights organization amnesty international says that his trial was a sham. his fate echoes that of the iranian wrestler who was jailed for participating in protests and then executed in 2020. his defiance inspired other athletes to speak out as well including a former karate champion who fled the country in 2008. >> i've got plenty of messages from my young 17, 18 years old kids that one day they see all
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this killing and torturing on the streets and all that kind of stuff. they're just telling me, okay, because they know me because of my background, and they just say this life, it's done for me, like i'm going to kill myself. >> athletes in ran seem to be battling a new fight against what activists are calling an unjust judicial system, and they're making a plea hoping the international community will pay attention. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: at this point, the recording cuts out. he says he'll have much more to say when he gets out of prison. but for now, he needs others to be his voice. otherwise, he could be silenced forever. you know, i asked -- who we featured just then what athletes in other countries who are watching can do. and he said simply that they
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should share what's going on, to make sure as many people as possible know what's happening right now in iran. cnn has reached out to the iranian government for comment about both the cases. anderson, we have not received a response. >> don riddell, thanks. to another oppressive regime now, russia. germany today demanded russian authorities provide urgent medical attention in their words to dissident alexei navalny. he's said to be in declining health being held in one of russia's harshest prisons being psyched in and out of solitary confinement and denied medical treatment according to his wife and attorney. dasha, thank you so much for being with us tonight. first of all, do you know right now what your father's condition is? >> first of all, i want to say thank you so much, anderson, for having me. it's a huge honor. thank you so much for letting the light on the situation that's happening.
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my -- i know it's -- i know what's happening and my biggest concern with my dad's situation is his physical health right now. we all know that russian prisons aren't well-equipped for the cold winters. and of course my father got the flu. his condition is not good. i'll be honest, he has a cough and a fever. and he's expectedly very exhausted. t purposely placed an unstable and menally ill person in a cell next to him who screams at night. so my father isn't able to get any sleep at night. the officials are refusing to treat him. when high father requested to be placed in prison hospital they said it was full of people who might get him infected, however agreed to take his cell roommate into the prison hospital,
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essentially spreading the virus fo to my dad. even before the flu he had some severe back problems, and he requested to have a doctor visit many times for a long time. and eventually a doctor visited him once, prescribed him injections of an unknown name and didn't give him a diagnosis. we're trying to get all the help we can get. and we got a lot of russian doctors who supported leave and medical care for my dad. but his health is my primary concern at the moment. >> obviously i know in the past your father has been able to communicate limitedly via letters or through his attorneys. has that become more difficult? when were you actually last able to communicate with him? >> so the last time i saw him in person was a year and a half ago for my birthday, september 2021.
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we talked over the small phone that's in prison. the whole movie scene where we leaned our palms against the mirror -- against the glass that separated us and it looked like we were holding hands. it was very sweet, but of course not the same as being really in person. in december i sent him a letter just talking about my fall quarter and what courses i'm ta taking in this quarter winter. and i actually just got a reply a couple of days ago. yeah, it's nothing super interesting. >> what do you think about -- i mean your father went back to russia knowing after -- after he was poisoned and recovered, he went back to russia flying in knowing what he was going back
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to. as his daughter i mean it's incredibly heroic. it's extraordinary. as his daughter what is that like to know that your father, you know, put his life -- is repeatedly put his life on the line for something larger than him and the family for so many other people? >> right. well, i'm not going to say it hasn't been difficult. i really miss him. i've always been a father's daughter. you know, before this he would get arrested but no longer for a couple of days or a week. and this is definitely -- especially when he was first aresc arrested for the first year, it was definitely hard for me to understand that i can't just text or call my dad whenever i wanted to.
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but, you know, it's hard but someone has to do the work that he does. and i'm proud of him for doing it. and it makes -- it makes supporting him that much easier. >> dasha, thank you so much. i wish you the best. >> thank you. >> a reminder of the story has been made into a sun dance award winning documentary. you can watch it tomorrow 9:00 eastern time right here. coming up ufos, what the federal government just revealed and why some of it only adds to the scientific mystery of what's really out there. right back. at mint we're not into wasting money. so we bought this spiffy stock footage for $500. our footage also came with another hand, so we can let you know if you switch to mint, you'll get three months free on all of our plans. even unlimited. feels like that deserves an exclamation point. whoa. easy, easy.
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this is so fascinating to me. can you walk us through what's in the report. the question viewers have is does this make it more likely there could be some sort of alien and an increase in a number of reports and one is reducing the stigma with reporting observations with reporting phenomena. another is they talk about how they now have a new government structure that is now dedicated to understanding these phenomena just in case they are hazardous we need to get a grip. and then the last part that doesn't get a lot of attention is the part about the data gathering, right?
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what they're hinting at is we need greater awareness of what's in our air, what's in our space and what is in our maritime environments. so most of these observations have been their military bases. so i think what's coming next is to get greater coverage of our skies. >> so that's the reason that a lot of the unexplained sightings are over military bases is because those are the pilots who are -- there's a system for them to report it more easily? >> absolutely. and there are, you know, nonhuman sensors present. we already do this -- we say i'm an astrophysicist, we scan the galaxy and there are billions of stars and we classify them and there's always some left unknown. we classify and occasionally we find something unknown. in this case although most of the observations are mundane
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there are still those unknown. so it could be our adversaries. at the minimum, they could be aerial hazards, right? or they could be aliens but that's highly unlikely. >> any indication how these things are moving in such weird ways? >> no, it does not go into the details of these at all because left as an unknown, that means it is an unknown. everything that moves as unde understood is unknown. >> the classified report released to the public, what might be contained in the
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version lawmakers have access to? >> i would imagine if there is some of this additional data, right, they may have flagged some particular event as particularly interesting because, remember, there's always the threat of adversaries in our skies. also remember if there is some source of aerial hazards coming, you want to understand what the source of these are. many are balloons and some are balloon-like. they're doing it in a sober way, to understand what's happening in america's skies better than we have before. >> there's nothing worse if you're a navy pilot and you report something that turned out to be a paper bag that's probably not going to be something great for your career but interesting they're making it at least easier for people to do that. >> they are. i think by not sensationalizing, right, being very sober about it that they also turn it from something that is always thought
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of as, you know, something that's extra terrestrial to, oh, here's something in our sky we don't quite understand, we need to report this so that we can do due diligence and get an understanding what we're dealing with. >> thank you so much for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> "cnn tonight" with laura coates is next right after a short break. the day you get your clearchoice dental implants makes every day... a "let's dig in" day... mm. ...a "chow down" day... a "take a big bite" day...
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. good evening i'm laura coates's this is cnn tonight and there are in developments now in the having into the classified documents from president biden's time as vice president joe biden, we're learning more about his private office, where ten classified documents were found, more on that in a moment. we also have new report on the classified documents found in that
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