. good evening i'm laura coates's this is cnn tonight and there are in developments now in the having into the classified documents from president biden's time as vice president joe biden, we're learning more about his private office, where ten classified documents were found, more on that in a moment. we also have new report on the classified documents found in that office, including a memo

from biden to then barack obama one with the prime minister and the european council, it's unclear how much of this material actually remains sensitive and whether that will be the point in the end be tonight we'll dig deep into what we know about the special council's investigation of president biden and former president trump. what the special counsel in each case is looking at and the key differences between them. and plus, the two stories everybody cannot stop talking about this week. the gop's georgia santos problem and fire stove gas stoves, two beg stories this week, you see what i did there about the fire storm, at friday night everyone, congressman santos got caught what seemed like a never ending series of whoopers about his resume and it doesn't stop there as they any but wait, more,

includes whoopers about his education, his own family. now, cnn own k file learned about his work for a company later accused of running a ponzi scheme. meanwhile, all the brew ha ha shows no signs of dying down, but there's something these two stories have in common that well, you might not have noticed. and we'll thread that particular needle coming back and we'll tell you more about it later on tonight, lots to talk about with cnn political analyst alex burns, former could you say michael velvet and elliot williams, i'm glad you're with me tonight, let me begin with you, michael, because you at one point were an independent council and i wonder when you looking at the sinceres taking a stent back, everyone is focusing on look, there's two special councils but they have different roles because the facts might be different even though the headline is the same.

how do you see it >> well, smith steps into the middle of an ongoing investigation a multi-facetted ongoing investigation. her was the biden media has to hire a and a very narrow set of issues to look utat were they disseminated? was there criminal intent, and so it's a much more sir come subscribed issue, smith has a big deal on his hand, biden's guy herr has a much more narrow focus. >> in past, elliot, you've said when you compare these two, i remember there are a poignant remark, he said right now, trump has a legal problem, biden has pr, problem. do you still feel that way. >> absolutely what president trump has is a series of steps going back to august, and even before that when he made situation worse for himself legally based on his own

statements and frankly conduct of folks around him including his attorney, and that's the reason why as we talked about the other day, one of the basis for search warrant for his property was the possible obstruction of justice, right now, what folks, if you notice you read between the lines about what people are complaining about with joe biden, they didn't tell the media fast enough. the story is switched a little bit and weren't total forthcoming that is public relations, look, it can spiral into a legal problem, if evidence comes out that the biden team was either hiding information, was aware of it was, was deliberately trying to conceal documents of course possible criminal liability there, right now, it's not clear that it's there >> let me stick there for a second, arguably when special counsel is involved in doj you have on a legal problem, no matter how you want to tack about there's a problem but i want to show you the layout of biden's office i think it's important to take a step back and look what we're talking

about where these documents supposedly found, this animation actually shows where white house documents were found, i believe this is at biden's office, but i also want to show you do we have the animation of where we found them not we, i mean, the royal we, where they were found at trump's mar-a-lago estate as well? just think about the contrast where they may be, this is biden's office, we remember, here it is, the contrast, i point these two things out, because both one have been done alex look at where we're talking about to figure out does it raise eyebrows, and there was an in delegate moment about biden talking about his corvette seeming to intimate look my corvette is in locked place, if they're safe, the documents may have been. when you look at this and how people will process this information reporting, what stands out to you about these

contrasts >> in some way having them side by side, it's helpful to joe biden and some ways it's unhelpful because on one hand, it's very clear that the biden casey based on what we know about it now, is far, far less legally dangerous than the case involving former president trump. at the same time, it's a little bit misleading just to consider the facts of the biden situation in contrast to trump this isn't an election where one of these guys is going to get indicted and the guy who has the much worse facts of the case is probably going to be that guy. no. joe biden needs to handle this sort of in absolute terms. either stuff was done improperly or illegally or it wasn't. look, i'm with elliot here, based on what we know right now, we're clearly not in a position to say that joe biden is in profound legal jeopardy. at the same time, you know, so the point about public relations and like what we know is they weren't forthcoming with us and there were questions about why we didn't answer certain things

at certain times, those are the gap that is lead you to, in my view, withhold judgment on the seriousness of this because we clearly don't have all the information. >> go further than withhold judgment people get suspicious when they feel like their politicians aren't being straight with them. >> don't jump to the >> like let's just in the assume that based on the information we have right now, it's not that serious. >> michael your position before, i mean, obviously, there's room for the honor system in some fields, this is likely not one of them. what will they be looking at in terms of the special counsel's office to assess whether there was the requisite intent or the knowing nature, did he know this was the case? not just willful >> it's really the who, what, when where why? how did they get out. why, who had knowledge of them. was there any attempt to alter or destroy in the case of sandy

burger, he sort of altered them the case of roberto gonzales, there was no knowledge or intent betray prosecuted under the statute. he took them gave them to his biographer who he was having a relationship with and determined that that dissimination timed it over to being criminal, so all of those things is what the special counsel has to look at before he can make determination whether or not this is inadvertent, nonintentional, not willful, therefore, not criminal , or whether it implicates criminal law collectively to make a determination does this fit in the norms >> all to compare, they say this is the beginning of trump's alleged mishandling or confirmed mishandling and they think this is a confined universe this

never happens it does go back to the idea why is this consistently happening? i keep going back at the moment. i think you had talked about this, elliot, if it were a try and a criminal trial you'd have problems getting into evidence that which you could not show had a chain of custody that preserved the integrity of the evidence, you had custodians of records, in this instance seems like there are just documents unaccounted for until all of a sudden someone finds them. >> it's no accident we talked about this that joe biden in that very first press conference that i was surprised to know about these documents and my staff hasn't told me in effect what's in them. that's you know, distancing himself from sort of criminal -- the level of intent be needed to charge him with a crime. expose as bigger problem though that a former president of the united states can have documents at his house and not know they're there. and it's -- this is far beyond joe biden or donald trump it's a simple fact that we need as a nation as a government to get a

better system for tracking classified information that's not electronic, if it's on an electronic device, way tors encrypt it and so on papers can migrate out of white houses and that's a problem, we've seen it now with two different presidents. >> the thing that's interesting to me though what the biden case sets as potential precedent, if you will and i think they're disconnected case, is biden is saying and his staff is saying look, joe biden worked until the last possible minute before the obama administration ended then he left and there was chaos around some of these documents and they inadvertently got there. trump is saying the same thing, he's saying i'm working till the end i don't think i've lost this election, turns out i have to leave and packing up boxes furiously and he says i didn't know they were there, biden says i didn't know they were there. >> but trump says they're mine i'm keeping them. >> i understand that but at that threshold level there's stellar similarity, where they digress

is trump is saying i'm not giving them back, potentially hiding them and may be obstructing the litigation. >> and saying they're my property. >> i'm not sure that raises criminal responsibility that he has, the obstructing of the investigation is what his criminal liability. >> but it's knowing possession of documents once he knows that they're >> after the fact. >> even still, it's willfulness or knowledge or going to be ran to any charging anybody with a crime and when you're saying these are mine, this is not the government's property, that's itself evidence of intent. i'm not saying convict the guy tomorrow, what prosecutors do is build cases and you establish intent when somebody says that a document that isn't his is actually his. >> these are the lawyers kind of politically, politically, what i mean, the nuance has to be so explicit and also so an appetite to actually receive it. for the electorate. >> i do think that one of the things we have seen actually with both trump and biden over the years is it's hard to change voters minds about these guys,

that you know, we in the media love covering those investigations, and we should cover these investigations. but i remember i am actually old enough to remember when ken starr was going to bring down the clinton presidency when patrick fitzgerald was going to bring down the white house and we remember the mueller investigation clearly and at the end of the day people have a developed view of the president, personally as political reporter, talking of sources on the political side of things, the question for biden this undermine the sort of impression of competence, which already has been through the ringer a bit in the presidency and also does it sort of this notion that he was just working really hard, lost track of his paper, does it reenforce the kind of like absent minded grandfather side of the biden image, which the white house is not super enthusiastic about. we've seen really tough hits delivered against bone joe biden

and donald trump and at the end of the day it takes an enormous amount to move the needle voters know them pretty well. >> think about all of that more ahead stick around, don't we're we'll talk next about two other stories is and also got everybody's attention this week, not so much about the competency but credibility and trust certainly has come up yet again george santos the congressman out of new york still defiant lie after lie and a third one after lie about his background and there's the uproar over gas stoves, away am i connecting these two? there's something really in common, i'll tell you what it is in a moment. ♪. ♪. ♪. don't settle for silver. harness the power of 7 moisturizers & 3 vitamins to smooth, heal, and moisturize your dry skin. gold bond. champion your skin. ♪ this feels so right... ♪ adt systems now feature google products like the nest cam with floodlight, with intelligent alerts when a person or familiar face is detected. sam. sophie's not here tonight.

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. well, two of some of the strangest political dramas of the week finding their way into new proposed laws, and some shall we say, well, inventive and maybe descriptive acronyms, two democratses if you look at it the santos act the stopping another nontruthful office speaker act or for short, the santos act. meanwhile to republicans taking a queue from the heated controversy over gas stoves this week introduce their own stoves act. now, what is that short for? look at it. stop trying to obsessively vilify energy act, these

political, i don't know, prevent the banning this one of gas stoves or ranges back with me, alex burns, your name is in the the in this conversation i'll put that out alex burns also commentator ashley allison and leon donovan, discussion seems to concern so many people because it's a sitting member of congress, which is more surprising for people is the quick pace at which the gas study released back in december and commented on and revealed early this week had even the president of the united states i i think he was responding quicker than he did to the allegations of mishandling classified documents tells you the power of what? special interest? concerns what do you get out >> to me it's absence to a caricature of the left the right has trying to take away all these things that fits into

oddly it's an interesting culture but 47% of americans has gas stoves and the idea this will be taken away by an unknown bureaucrat that has a familiar name in richard trump junior but triggered the course of aggressive legislature issues of the right to use it and puts democrats on the defensive >> will it be successful? i don't think so. i think this will be an issue that dems is get ahead of messaging wise and not be, you know, a deciding factor for the 2024 presidential election. i do think that why it's happening is we're in a time when the amount of information people are receiving is coming at them so quickly and seems like everything is a crisis, and when you think about the santos act and the stove act, those are very different issues and sometimes they get conflated

>> i would prefer a gas stove if i liked to cook. that's a big if, there are other ways to prevent the ventilation issue around gas stoves but george santos is a liar and should be removed from office, these are separate issues obviously somebody congressman lying the idea of somebody else talking about the attack what they perceive on the gas is industry very different but really point is the way it's perceived the idea of they're coming after -- it's always the government against someone, against an industry or you or someone, and it's a positioning that people have of look it's you they're coming after, i'm in the way and gas santos, some odd proxy in terms of this argument. what do you say >> laura i'll speak some truth to the american people here. >> wait. wait for it. >> ok.

>> in the last couple. how many times the last five years have you heard people say i wish life could just get back to normal. right? that the trump years were so chaotic, we had a pandemic that killed millions of people. global economic and just want to get back to normal. this is normal. this sort of fire storm about a preposterous offend comment, buried in a report some federal agency nobody ever heard of before, rockets around social media on to real media and all of a sudden the president of the united states is responding to it, you know, we remember when barrack obama was going to come and take you don't light bulb not that long ago, the idea we're in week i don't know what three, four, not to totally trivia lies the story it's bad when someone is a giant liar but the back venture in the house of representatives, the idea we're fixating on this screwball character clearly way out of his

depth that's also a return to normalcy. the idea of to temperature and stakes of politics is a little bit lower that we're at the point that we can spend time talking about this stuff that doesn't really matter certainly on the level of the pandemic or a global recession or a chaotic presidency careening all over the road, that is a return to normal. >> if you don't have a main character the american politics or on twitter or air where else, that will be the stove or santos account a >> i want a new normal, i don't want this normal and i don't want the trump's normal, we deserve something back, i hear you, santos is not a major party player but it's an indication of who and how the leadership of that party is responding to behavior. which is fraudulent, lying, and enabling other people in the party, ie, a former president to

lie and and be fraudulent and potentially commit crimes. i hear you like i would rather talk about gas stoves and covid any day. but i'm trying to find a new normal. >> totally fair but if you have to choose between waking up in the morning and maybe the president has threatened a nuclear war on twitter versus i lie we're at golden sacks one is much more sustainable as a lifestyle. >> unless working at goldman sachs and pass some type of business that collapses the economy, there's some effect he'd still have legislative authority and i don't think we should just like sweep it under the rug as a nonissue. >> the secretary of treasure issued a letter to congress today saying we were nearing our federal debt limit, i do think there are things that are going to eclipse the more trivial items in the near future. >> i do wonder if that's the point, we're talking about a lot

of what the trump presidency informed a lot of people about was the idea of the bright shiny objects put up as distraction from what was in the periphery happening, hold on why are you focusing on this over here, it's what you're not looking at here that's the issue and sometimes the return to normalcy in politics is getting people triggered, riled up about a particular issue and my immediate skepticism says what is it you don't want me to be think about? what about the debt ceiling, what about issues surrounding a man who's live in congress and sill still has a seat. what about concession that is happened about a week ago, where is all of that information? so that in way is the normal but we have more to talk about there, don't we're we have plenty you're eager to continue the conversation, we'll move on because there's the trivialy politically, there's human life you've seen the reports about a missing massachusetts mother the

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. as the search goes on in massachusetts for a missing mother ana walshe, we're learning she filed a police report here in washington, dc nearly a decade ago claiming that brian walshe, who would later become her husband had threatened to kill her, that case was never prosecuted. coworkers reported ana walshe missing on january 4th. brian walshe is in police custody, charged with misleading investigators and those investigators found a potential evidence in her disappearance, including a bloody knife found in the couple's basement and hacksaw at a nearby garbage transfer facility but no sign of ana walshe, i want you to bring in heave law enforcement analyst here at cnn john miller and legal analyst joey jack a criminal defense attorney, thank you for being here, this story is so difficult and sad to think

about this is a mother three children, whereabouts unknown, you got her husband, who is being pegged as maybe the prime suspect here, but there's a lot to consider and the evidence, john, seems to be growing against brian walshe but without a body having been located or her having been located in any manner, this is very difficult to fully proceed or is it?. >> well, i mean, among prosecutors, the old adage was no body, no murder, you had to have a body to prove someone was actually killed. that has changed a lot over the years. if you think about some of the cases we all know, the disappearance of aton pace one of the most famous child kidnapping in history suspect convicted without the body ever being recovered, irene silverman the new york social light who disappeared and sante, keims and

her son convicted the bodies never found, you look at this case, robert beer bound case in new york where he murdered his wife, strangled her, flew her over an airplane over the ocean, dumped her body, never been found and he's been convicted and finally confessed to doing just that but most on point i believe the case of john smith murdered his first wife in new jersey in new jersey, second wife in new jersey was on to his third wife's when an dedicated fbi agent robert hill never get go of to case stringing together the circumstantial evidence in the case, led to the recovery of one body, but smith is in jail in federal prison doesn't see parole until 2029 we know this can be done, in this case, with dna blood evidence, cell phone you know, ez pass all the things that string together for

circumstantial evidence that didn't exist just a short while ago, it's not what defense lawyers used to have the advantage of, i'll leave that to joe. >> let's bring you in here, the buzz word i'm sure you were picking up on circumstantial evidence, circumstantial evidence. thinking about that and how one is even conceptlize a did he first, this is someone awaiting sentences i believe on an art fraud trial he had an ankle monitor, idea of these monitors obviously to know where one's whereabouts are and if they are not where they're supposed to be, that is not beneficial to somebody who, if, ok, he's a suspect and has the presumption of innocence, of course, but as a suspect, could be track down where he was. >> yes, so, you know, laura, we have this thing as you know very well as a former prosecutor called consciousness of guilt. what is consciousness of guilt? it means you do things because you're guilty and that's the

explanation. and so here john pointed outright very appropriately i'll the cases throughout the course of time and there's more of this country successful is promoting people who hide bodies since the 1800s but when talk to investigators and give misleading information with respect to your wife's whereabouts, when you have ankle bracelets and you are pursuant to that fred conviction that he had on probation and as a result of that you have to stay home and you can leave to pick up your children but you left and your children didn't have school. all of those things kind of circulate to the consciousness of guilt issue. in addition to that, we talk about the circumstantial evidence. you know, laura, circumstantial evidence is evidence, it's powerful. people don't get credit because they're smart enough to conceal their crimes. so as a result of that, what you do is string together things that make sense. so what are you going to do in this case? factually you're going to examine the specific facts, why

did you make those misrepresentations? was it because you killed her? why did you say she left the house when the cell phone was pink to the home, why did you go to home depot and pick up supplies why was there blood in the basement. why, why? you put those together and all of those issues seem to suggest that she's missing and she's not going to return because it was at your hand, so yes, there are challenges as you know associated with any prosecution particularly when you don't have the body, but those are not challenges that cannot be overcome predicated upon the evidence, which is not, no one saw you, but the circumstances strongly suggest that you did it. >> you know, john, it's difficult as you all were talking we were seeing images of ana walshe, and just the contrast of how we're discussing this and striking so many, and that's really the most significant and unfortunate and sad aspect of this, we're talking about a body, we're looking at a human and a woman

and a mother, and wondering if she will be found, but there's also this record, there's a police report we're learning about where apparently, she at one point said that he had threatened to kill her, tell me as law enforcement, how this is factoring into the investigation? i know if you're a prosecute, a case like this i would look at this as the idea of maybe a prior bad act or to joey's point as a type of evidence i would try to build to get in. but for law enforcement how would you gauge this? >> well, i mean, one of the things we go by is the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. the idea that he made threats allegedly to kill her and that was reported to police in washington what we call a clue. on the other hand, and this happens in district of columbia where you were a prosecutor, you're going to be fighting the idea that it happened in 2014.

after that, they had a relationship, they got married, they had three children and, you know, on the night before she disappears, she writes a letter in red marker apparently on a champagne bottle box that says love, perseverance and we'll have a great 2023 because we're still together. even though she knows he's going to prison. so she is messaging, if that's her handwriting, that everything is ok and there's a future. it under scores that when you look at a house, a facebook page, a happy family in photos you never really know what's going on behind the scenes. >> it's so true, gentlemen, and that's where law enforcement has to unpack, joe you want to say something? go ahead. >> just quickly, you know, laura, that defense attorneys when appropriate time comes will be moving to preclude, what do i mean in english, in the event there was some 2014 case, they're going to argue, number one, it's not relevant to the

particular circumstances here because it happened in 2014, number two, it's prejudicial, the fact is that if you admit this in front of a jury, they're not going to want to hear anything else, just convict. it's an open question as to whether that will see the light of day in terms of ever getting before a jury, so i think that the authorities are going to rely upon other evidence to piece together that's compelling and admissible for the jury that goes to show that he is the responsible party in the event again that she is, indeed, dead. >> in the event this ever goes to a trial, if the charges are filed, thank you, gentlemen, nice to see you both. we're going to follow this story >> a story we're following homes and businesses gone. and at least nine people dead across the southeast. selma, alabama, absolutely devastated by tornados. look at the images we're seeing here, we're going to go there next. ♪. ♪. ♪. like the nest cam with floodlight, with intelligent alerts

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. tonight, residents in selma, alabama are trying to put lives back together, one day after severe storms and at least one powerful tornado slammed the city and others nearby in alabama and in georgia. the governors of both declaring states of emergency in the impacted areas to help the clean-up efforts. joining me is democratic congress woman terry sewell who is from selma been through the area since yesterday, welcome, congress woman i'm glad you're here i'm interested in learning what's happened you've been there since uv and got an aerial view, what did you see? >> i have to tell you, laura, that it was just heart wrenching, you know, as a, the person who represents the city of selma and congress, it's much more personal for me because

selma is my hometown. and to see the destruction of homes and businesses, businesses that i frequented as a child, school, elementary school is several of my friend went to, these are my neighbors, these are my church members, these are my teachers. it was just really gut wrenching, but i can tell you this, the fact is that in the light of day today, we were able to have the governor come and declare a state of emergency. i really do believe we had senator katie brit come as well. it's about trying to make sure that we have a coordinated toaster bring back the city of selma and my hope is that we will continue to see these kinds of coordinated efforts on the stay and local level so we cannot only you know rebuild but we can build back better, if you will. >> really important to hear about that coordination and to that front you've got the mayor of selma knowing the tremendous

damage in the city, and also asking residents to conserve water after power outages actually affected the treatment facilities, how are people coping with this right now? is the water conversation request still out there? . >> no, it's not. thank god. but you know, initially, when it hit, there were over 10,000 households affected by the power outage. and thank god for surrounding communities, because they rallied to give us generosity in order to make sure that we didn't have that problem with the water pump. i just -- i just want to thank all of the volunteers, the first responders, our neighboring communities that really came and helped us. you know, i can tell you that the city of selma has seen some horrible days, people know the city of selma because of the civil rights movement i can tell you that we're a resilient people. a people who will come together

at a time of crisis and work together, we will work together to make sure our city is rebuilt. i just, you know, my -- my hope is that we can have a coordinated effort and i know that we can, we did so you know, just in the most recent crisis here in alabama. this is a time to unite alabamians in an effort to help the tremendous >> congressman, excuse me, i'd like to know what help you need from the federal government, what will the help come in terms of according, state of emergencies having been declared, what do you think selma needs most right now. >> now we need help in removing debris and we've had surrounding cities and counties offer that help. you know, the fema had been in contact with fema, the small business administration, i've been in touch with obviously the white house. we really are going to need emergency resources and assistance and we really need it

now. we know that to get fema, we have to do a damage assessment and that's what we're doing now. we're very much in the mode of recovery, and you know, right now, there's a shelter my whole high school is now the shelter that the red cross is running to offer displayed citizens of selma and dallas county an opportunity to have a cot and bed and the whole town is rallying behind, yesterday, it was gut wrenching to see the tremendous widespread damage. >> congress woman thank you so much for stopping by especially at a time like this, i hope that selma gets the help they need. thank you for being there to give us the information as well. thank you. >> thank you. next, we'll talk about well, in happier times what would be the chance if you were able to have all the money in the world seems over a billion

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. what is friday the 13th but might end up being someone's lucky day, maybe even my lucky day, the mega millions drawing is in just a few minutes but the jackpot reaching an estimated 1.35 billion dollars, yes, with a b, the second largest in history the last jackpot was 502 million bucks in october but in a few minutes there could very

well be another winner and cnn harry and sandy is here to break down the odds, harry i got my tickets i have three of them here today, thank you very much. i'm not going to show you numbers because i don't want to share with you in case i do win but it's a lot of money and a lot of people are waiting to see what's happening. we've been getting a lot of jackpots this large lately why is that? >> yes, so look, i mean the for that matter is if you look at the top mega millions jackpots every won you'll notice something going on, they're all from 2018 or onward you know right now the second largest at 1.35 billion, it was earlier this past summer we had a 1.337 bicycle billion in july of 2022. we've been seeing a lot higher jackpots recently. why is that the case? turns out there was a rule change back in 2017 that made it more difficult to win, but of course, when it's more difficult to win and fewer and fewer people are winning it dries up the jackpot.

so what exactly happened? what the mega millions folks decided to do was that they decided to take the mega ball which must be matched to win, that went from one to 15 to potential possibilities to one to 25. that took the odds of winning from one in 259, to 1 in 303 million, of course, maybe it is my lucky day to quote clinton eastwood. here's advice if you want to win and get the largest jackpot possible you don't want to have to share the money, so what do you want to do if you don't want to share the money, if two or more tickets win you must share, pick a regular ball that goes with numbers well past 31, a regular ball that's larger than 31, you want the regular balls to be larger than 31, why? because when people play they tend to play dates and no month has more than 31 days, pick numbers 32 and up on the regular ball and that will give you the

best shot of not having to share, which, of course, laura i know you don't want to do even though with me. >> i'm looking at my tickets right now and i'm thinking is anything over that number? of course, i would share with you and i press this out because in case you do win i'd like to know what do you -- what would you do if you won the lottery except, of course, you can give me that first answer about how would you and i share this money together >> let me tell you, if you won the lotto jackpot, would you share the money with friends and family? i think most americans the poll indicates yes, 87% say yes and i would share with you, would you quit your current job? 62% of americans say yes, they would do that, i would not be in that group i happen to love playing a little fun with you on a friday night like talking about lottery, maybe we'll talk about football next time around, who knows? what would i do if i won the lotto jackpot, selfish answers

yes, i'd give money to charity, blah, blah, boring i would bring triple cereal back i don't know if you remember that from 1990s, it was a, rice crispies thing, i really loved the taste but it's bring that back, but what you would you do if you won. >> looking at that magic i would pay you and never use that photograph of me again, what is that haircut can i pay i was million and a half not to show that again? there you go, take that off number one but i got to tell you i would do all of that yes, try to solve a lot of problems but spend it wisely and leave that umbrella to do in that respect. might bring a couple food choices back and tell you i do love my job but for a couple of weeks a spinning anchor chair, probably where i'm headed for awhile. >> if either of us win maybe we can get better photos, photos of

ourselves that we enjoy better perhaps that's what we could do. >> we look good in the pictures, harry, it's true, it's just that there are other way, anyway i got my tickets hope you have yours if i should win on air i will call you privately, my friend. >> thank you, very much, appreciate it. and now to someone who's not so lucky tonight, president biden. dealing with a special council investigation, how should a white house act when dealing with a crisis like this or others? we'll talk to a former press secretary who ought to know next. ♪. snowy.

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