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all need to be tea to thtlers. they also say, this is important to remember, if you're not drinking, don't start thinking it's going to be good for your heart or whatever. if you're not drinking, don't start. >> it was good. you start feeling well -- better. >> you stop missing it after a few weeks. >> people would ask me are you going to meetings? i'm not an alcoholic. i want it to believe clear. i exercised better, felt better, slept better. >> now at 40, even if i have one glass of wine -- what, i'm 40. that i wake up in the middle of the night. just different when you're old like me. >> it is different. we're not 18 anymore. >> that's true. >> that's true. thanks, elizabeth. "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> right now.
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♪ we have to choose a community over chaos. are we the people going to choose love over hate? these are the vital questions of our time and the reason why i'm here as your president. i believe dr. king's life and legacy show us the way. >> good morning, everyone. today is dr. martin luther king jr. day. we're so glad you can join us. kaitlan is off, obviously she's not here. just poppy and i. are you doing okay? >> i'm doing great. good to be by your side. >> it's a good day. not so great for the current administration from bad to worse. president biden's aides finding more classified documents at his home in delaware now republicans are demanding information. millions of californians
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under a flood watch again this morning as that state prepares for more rain. plus an extremely close call at jfk airport. the faa now launching an investigation into how two commercial planes nearly collided. details on all of that coming up. but we begin with new details about the classified materials found at president biden's home and the fallout. here's what we know this morning. the white house confirms the aides found five additional pages of classified materials on the same day a special counsel was appointed to investigate the matter. that brings a total of documents recovered to about 20. the white house council's office announcing it will no longer answer questions about the controversy because of a special counsel investigation under way. president biden's personal attorneys say they have been trying to balance the importance of public transparency with protecting the integrity of the investigation. but the president has not been
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transparent enough for james comer. he's demanding more information from the white house. >> we don't know exactly yet whether they broke the law or not. i will accuse the biden administration of not being transparent. why didn't we hear about this on november 2nd when the first batch of classified documents were discovered. >> democrats are coming to president biden's defense determined to highlight the difference between biden's handling of classified documents and trump's. >> we were delighted to learn that the president's lawyers, the moment they found out about the documents that day turned them over to the national archives and ultimately to the department of justice. that is a very different posture than what we saw with donald trump. >> so let's bring in cnn senior white house correspondent, mj lee. good morning to you. look, there is a difference but if you're explaining, you're losing. because over the weekend we got another update of more documents
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being found. what is going on here? >> reporter: good morning, don, yet another update from the white house council's office over the weekend about more classified documents that were found that we weren't previously aware of. we are talking about five additional pages of classified documents that were found at president biden's wilmington home on thursday night. this is according to the special counsel to the president. he says he went over to the wilmington house with doj officials to hand over one classified document that had been discovered on wednesday and it is at this point that this group discovered the additional pages with classified markings. now he said that the doj immediately took over those documents and that now that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate this matter, the white house council's office is no longer going to be answering questions. >> and the president's personal lawyer put out this lengthy statement over the weekend
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trying to defend how everything has been handled so far. that's kind of tricky again so many details. i'm not sure if the american people can parse the details. i'm sure they know the difference but at the end of the day, mj, one person had documents that were mishandles, another person had documents that were his mishandled and maybe that's how the public sees it but what are the lawyers saying? >> we're seeing the white house play defense right now. the president's personal lawyer, bob bauer put out a lengthy statement over the weekend explaining the different processes that the lawyers around the president have followed throughout this process and particularly explaining why lawyers couldn't really disclose all of the information that they knew at any given time for fear of interfering with an ongoing doj review. i want to read a key part of that statement from bob bauer that i think tries to explain a major part of this process. he says, because president
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biden's personal lawyers do not have active security clearances, whenever a document bearing classified markings was identified, the search was suspended of the box, file, or other space where the document was discovered with the potentially classified material left in the place as found. now he says the government was promptly notified. it's for this reason that the president's personal attorneys do not know the precise number of pages in the discovered material nor have they reviewed the content of the documents consistent with the standard procedures and requirements. now the white house has faced a ton of questions about both the messaging and the transparency. i think what we can say with certainty right now is it is very possible in the coming days and weeks we could be learning about additional classified documents. we just don't know. >> mj lee at the white house, thank you. let's talk about this with
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ronald heir. good morning, sir, thanks for joining us. >> good morning, glad to be here. >> we were struck -- thanks for coming on because we were struck by two op-eds in two days in two different publications one was yours in the atlantic. the title is biden's classified documents should have no impact on trump's legal jeopardy and this piece in "the washington post." if mar-a-lago case collapses, a -- disaster dodged, america. it goes on to say, according to the latest data, 45% of americans identify as republicans or leaning towards republicans 44% democrat or lean in that direction. the justice department serves them all and its credibility
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rests on being perceived to play fair. you wrote in your piece one of the most superficial parallels. only the most superficial parallels can be drawn between the two. i wonder, donald, if you think in the eyes of the public these cases are inextricably linked? >> that's why we wrote the article we wrote, is because it's certainly true that when you have two presidents, one current and one past, who both have, you know, it's fair to say their teams and them perhaps have mishandled classified documents. it's really important to understand what conduct is at issue. and as far as we know now, as you just accounted, the biden people clearly made a blunder in having these documents taken and -- taken away from the white house. there's no two ways about that, but it appears from what we see, and time will tell if it's true.
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it appears they don't have any interest in concealing these documents they're not trying to keep these documents. they're as eager as anybody to get them back to where they belong in the government. and trump's team, and trump himself, it appears from the evidence, have actively been engaged in figuring out ways to not give them back over a period of many, many months. it's that intentional concealment and obstruction that gives rise to criminal possible prosecution. and that's the key difference here. so i think what's important is for the public to try to understand, essentially, the critical difference, why it matters to have a former president deliberately keeping and concealing classified information of the highest sensitivity, and i think merrick garland, the attorney general, has actually handled it quite
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well by appointing special counsels. because, clearly, there are people out there who are going to say, even though i don't think it's fair, and i don't think it's justified. there are people who are going to say, oh, merrick garland, works for joe biden, so merrick garland is in the tank and he'll do whatever joe biden wants. not true. but much better to have someone who's actually an excellent lawyer but also a trump appointee looking at the biden situation. i think that's where we are now and i hope people can learn from it. >> that was really back-to-back as it pertains to the biden documents merrick garland went out of his way to make sure it was trump appointees, first out of chicago and now the special counsel, a trump appointee as well. >> i wonder, the chair of the house oversight committee, james comer says subpoenas are on the table for the biden white house in this case. if that happens, you worked in this white house, you worked under two republican
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administrations but if you worked in this white house, what would your advice be? >> i think it's clearly inappropriate for congress to be investigating an ongoing investigation -- an ongoing criminal investigation. they can look at it after it occurs, but they don't have any right. it's really a separation of powers violation, to come in in the middle of an ongoing investigation and try to disrupt it by -- i guess what they want to do is make public what's going on in the investigation. one of the very sacred things about our criminal process and the investigative process that the department of justice engages in is that it's not supposed to publically pillar people or facts that are under investigation. the job is to investigate, figure out what the facts are, figure out if there's a case to be brought and then bring it and talk about it. but you don't do it while you're investigating. so i think one would resist the
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subpoenas with regard to the ongoing criminal investigation. >> so you think mccarthy is wrong when he said yesterday on fox news there's an obligation for congress to do this now? >> yeah, well, i think certainly they have a right to do oversight, certainly, of what the executive branch is doing. but they don't have a right to get into the specifics of an ongoing criminal investigation. i'm afraid what we're going to see is, you know, really an effort that's entirely aimed -- talk about politicization. it's entirely aimed at trying to politicize the situation in a way they believe will appeal to far right maga republican supporters and they want to stir up that pot and it's regrettable because this country doesn't need to have controversy and conflict stirred up any more at this point. >> donald ayers thank you for time this morning. >> thank you. to california where more
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rain is expected today in a rain soaked state. atmospheric rivers have dev stated communities, thousands of evacuations and 19 people dead so far. natasha chen is live for us. what are you seeing on the ground today? good morning to you. >> reporter: this is state route 37 and this section has been closed since saturday afternoon because the novato creek has been spilling over onto the highway. crews did a great job pumping water off the roadway yesterday but this ramp remains closed because they're worried the overnight rains will bring that water right back. this is one of the many issues keeping emergency crews extremely busy throughout the state. dramatic helicopter rescues in california. emergency crews rescued this woman fighting high winds and
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heavy rain. the storms have left california reeling with deadly floodwaters, washed out roads, and mud slides. >> by some estimates, 22 to 25 trillion gallons of water have fallen over the course of the last 16, 17 days. >> reporter: in the state, around 8 million people are still under flood watches and thousands forced to evacuate after atmospheric river events left neighborhoods looking like lakes. but some are choosing to ride out the storms. >> we got our power back on two days ago and it just went out. so we're firing back up the generators, keep our freezers and refrigerators cold. >> reporter: several rivers have overflowed, causing flooding in nearby communities. the large amounts of rain saturated the ground and caused roadways like this one to break away and slide down a cliff. and in los angeles, a downed tree crushed cars in a parking lot of a shopping mall.
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>> it came down and then there were four cars -- or three cars over there that got hit. four people were in one car, two were able to get out okay. the other two we had to help them out, but no injuries. >> reporter: one community got inventive, installing a zip line to cross the waters after the bridge washed out. >> you have to be prepared. >> reporter: in belmont part of a hillside came down into a neighborhood. and in fairfax, a mudslide displaced 19 people. >> i thought i heard thunder. it was not thunder. it was the hillside giving away between two flats behind us. trees went into their bathroom. it was coming down this broad about this deep all mud flow. . >> reporter: the sierra mountain region saw up to 3 feet of snow in some places. the heavy snowfall left highway treacherous. >> wishing it would quit for a while. i'm tired of it.
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>> reporter: now this rain will let up later today, the high wind advisories will let up later today but because there's been storm after storm here in the last couple of weeks the ground is so saturated, the rivers saturated, there's still threats of roads giving way, trees coming down. people welcome the rain to help with the drought but wish it was more spread out, bringing new meaning to the phrase when it rains it pours. >> it does. this morning the faa launching an investigation after two planes nearly collided on the runway. one plane about to takeoff, another crossing in front of it. pete muntean joins me now. think about it all the time, especially at busy airports. how did it get this close? >> reporter: seconds to spare but the good news is this was
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avoided thanks to the quick thinking of the air traffic controller in the tower at jfk and the quick reaction by the delta crew on board the 737. this is the animation from flight radar 24. you can see the delta flight there was about to takeoff on runway 4 left there at jfk when an american airlines flight crossed in front of it. listen to the urgency by the air traffic controller in the tower warning the crew of that delta flight to slam on the brakes and stop to make sure they don't hit that other plane taxiing across the runway. >> delta, 1943, cancel takeoff plans. delta 1943 cancel takeoff plans. >> rejecting. >> reporter: the faa says about 1,000 feet of separation between the two planes in the end. sounds like a lot but it's about three football fields but pretty
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close in aviation terms. this is a run way incursion. these happen all the time according to the faa, 1600 of them in 2022, typically not as dramatic as this one, although the consequences are written in blood, the disaster in 1977, two 747s hit each other on the runway. 500 people killed, the single worst airplane clash in aviation history, poppy. >> that delta pilot, calm. >> very calm. can i ask you something pete. the delta plane was about to take off. was it gaining momentum or was it the beginning of the taxi? >> reporter: they were accelerating for takeoff. this is something that pilots practice all the time in the simulator. they're typically not often confronted with it in real life. so they were just about before the speed that you need to takeoff, you have to commit at a certain point so once you hit the speed you have to keep flying. they did not get there just yet
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so they were able to stop and decelerate. stop before the 777 still on the runway. >> can you imagine being on the plane? >> every time i get off the plane, i look in the cockpit and say thank you. >> wise words. >> thank you, pete and thank you our friend -- >> i like what my friend joy behar does. >> what does she do? >> she goes to the cabin, everybody sober up here? >> i'm worse. i'm like how's it looking? any turbulence, what's ahead? my husband is embarrassed going back to our seat. a lot to come with ukraine. >> there are dozens dead and missing in ukraine after a russian cruise missile hit a nine story apartment building. mark esper joins us next on the state of putin's war. as legal troubles mount for congressman george santos we'll speak with his former roommate who claims santos is also a thief.
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well, this morning rescue efforts continue in the ukrainian city of dnipro after a russian missile strike on an apartment building killed 40 feet. dozens have been saved. in the east, fighting rage osin the town of soledar despite russian claims that forces have taken that town. so joining us is mark esper. thank you this morning for joining us, secretary. >> morning. >> we have been getting reports from folks on the ground, we had a report about the brutality. civilians are dying there. how do you make sense of this phase of the war? >> you can't, don. it's horrible what happened, the killing of three dozen civilians but it's been going on for months and will continue to go on because this is all the
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russians have left in terms of their strategic approach to the conflict. that said, i think they seem to be preparing for some type of offensive in the spring. my sense is the ukrainians are trying to do the same. that's what we need to look out for in the coming weeks and months. >> could you speak to what ukraine needs in this point because frederick's reporting the last hour shows us this weapon that was used to take down the apartment complex is meant to take out aircraft carriers that's how powerful it is and the ukrainians do not have the defensive weaponry to block it. so is that coming to ukraine from the west? and if it's not, what can they do in the face of that? >> look, i think the fact they had to use an anti-ship missile to destroy an apartment building tells you about the russian's ability to support their war, they're running low on munitions and men until they held the
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conscription a few months ago. right now ukraine is trapped in the russian method of warfare, the stalemate using infantry, it's a grinding piece of warfare. ukrainians need to break out of this and fight their fight. the key to that is for the united states and allies to provide ukrainians with armor and mechanized fighting vehicles. they have committed to providing the fighting vehicles, the bradleys and other things, but the tanks are next. importantly the brits just decided to provide challenger ii tanks. what we've been waiting for is the germans to provide their tanks. i think when that happens, once we get them delivered to the the ukrainians they can reclaim large swaths of their country. >> the uk, poland, france said they're going to provide tanks
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to ukraine. finland saying they are considering doing the same. the significance for this western support for ukraine because without western support ukraine would not be in the position they're in now and that support has to continue or they'll fall behind. >> and just to be clear, france and others promised to provide fighting vehicles not tanks. the brits have okayed the provision of 14 challenger ii tanks but you can't do much with 14 tanks. so we're trying to nudge the germans to okay the tanks. we need to get out of the stalemate, the war of attrition. the last few days we've begun training hundreds of ukrainian soldiers at an american base in germany. another important factor. >> because we have you here, we'd like your take on the national security implications
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of now two back-to-back presidents mishandling classified documents. so we know that some that were recovered of the 300 at mar-a-lago were top secret, right, we saw the markings. it also turns out that some of the biden classified documents that were mishandled, not stored correctly, were also top secret, including intelligence memos, topics like ukraine, iran, the uk, memos from president obama to biden. i thought it was notable yesterday on abc, adam schiff, democrat, didn't rule out that national security could be compromised as a result. here's what he said. >> is it possible that national security was jeopardized here as many, including you, raised that possibility with the mar-a-lago
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documents? >> i don't think we can exclude the possibility without knowing more of the facts. >> how concerned are you that national security may have been compromised? >> well, i am concerned. and we really won't know the impact until the damage assessments conducted by the intelligence community are completed. i'm glad those have begun. i said it last summer with mar-a-lago, we need to have the damage assessments. we need to understand whether sources and techniques were exposed and revealed because that could hurt our national security, our military capabilities. so we need to find out really what happened, who had access, what was in the documents and so on. >> the political realm, i'm not sure what you can say about this, but i have to ask anyway, do you think one investigation hinders the other? does the biden investigation hinder the trump investigation? i think to most people they're the same, both people had documents in their possession
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they haven't have had. the circumstances are different, mr. secretary, do you think one hinders the other or affects the other? >> both men were irresponsible, the situations are similar but not the same. i think from a legal perspective one should not hinder the other but from a political perspective it gets mixed together from both sides in terms of who did what when, what it means, who was more responsible or irresp irresponsible. i think the bigger issue to sort through are the political dynamics. what that means for merrick garland down the road when he wants the special counsels have completed their work and present recommendations to them, he has to decide and at that point, the two have interaction and affect one another in terms of how he proceeds. >> an interesting turn of events i think we can all agree on nap thank you, mr. secretary, appreciate it. the top republican on the house oversight committee calls
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another day, another revelation from republican congressman george santos' past. back in 2020 he worked at a company he called 100% legitimate. the following year the s.e.c. was calling it a classic ponzi scheme, santos' lawyer said he was just as disturbed as everybody else about those allegations. that's just the latest news, though. james comer said if santos broke finance campaign laws he's out. >> look, he's a bad guy.
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this is something that it's really bad. he's not the first politician unfortunately to make it to congress to lie. it's despicable the lies he told. but at the end of the day it's not up to me or any other member of congress to determine if he can get kicked out for lying. if he broke campaign finance laws he will be removed from congress. >> so losing his job may be the least of his worries with so many investigations mounting. we have two pros who know about these allegations specifically and they're joining us now, larry noble and jennifer rogers. good morning to both of you. larry i'm going to start with you. what is the biggest legal threat facing santos right now? >> good morning, don and poppy, thanks for having me. probably the biggest legal threat, questions of where the $705,000 loan to his campaign came from. this is a man that when he ran
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in 2020 said he had few assets, reported few assets, and now all of a sudden he's reporting large assets that allowed him to make a $700,000 loan to his campaign. a candidate can make a loan of any size to their campaign but it has to be their own money. so the question is where did that money come from, if it came from another source for the purpose of giving it to his campaign he violated the law and it's a serious violation of what's effectively money laundering, probably excessive contribution, could have come from prohibited sources and that can be prosecuted. >> so it's interesting, jennifer, that matt gaetz actually asked santos this question last week, where did that money come from to fund your campaign. here's what he said. >> look, i've worked my entire life, i've lived an honest life, i've never been accused of any bad doing. so it's my -- it's the equity of
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my hardworking self and i invested inside of me. >> that's not true. he hasn't been accused of doing anything bad. look at the case in brazil right now for essentially stealing a check. what are your questions about his finances right now? >> he didn't answer the question. he reports $50,000 in income and turns around and all of a sudden has millions of dollars and he's giving his campaign 7 on -- $700,000 of it. it's a campaign finance violation almost certainly but more trouble if it's a ponzi scheme, if it's a different kind of financial fraud, those penalties are greater than campaign finance penalties so he's in a bunch of hot water here on the campaign side but potentially frauds. >> does he face -- what are the
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legal ramifications here? jail time, is that possible? >> it's possible. normally campaign finance violations are handled as civil matters. but the department of justice can launch its own investigation and there are criminal sanctions if it's a knowing and and willful violation. meaning he knew what he was doing and knew it violated the law. this is the case that doj may well look at. the large amounts of money getting into a campaign not knowing the sources of that money. and this idea he worked hard and earned this money, where is it showing up on his reports? in 2020 he didn't have it, so he must have gotten it since 2020 and his financial disclosure reports with congress doesn't show the source of the money, shows it coming from the company but doesn't show any clients. there's something very fishy about all this. talking about sanctions there is
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the possibility, remote, that he could be expelled from congress, i don't think it'll happen without a two-thirds vote. so i think he does face real problems and i don't think congress should avoid looking into this and i think the doj and s.e.c. has to look into this. >> don brought a penny up before commercial. this is key. the penny. so his campaign, jennifer, filed all of these expenses, $11$199.. that number matters a lot because when you hit 200, something changes. we're talking from restaurant bills, the w hotel in south beach, which our team looked in october it's like $600, not $199.99. why does that number matter so much and could put him in legal jeopardy as it pertains to campaign spending. >> that one penny, he knew what he was doing. >> dozens of expenditures on the
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reports you have to file say $199.99. $200 is the limit you have to collect the re-crceipts and hav them available for investigation. so you have these numbers just under makes you suspicious. so you have dozens of $199.99 no receipts for those, does that mean they're bogus. there were expenditures to companies brand new, not working in the campaign space tied to santos and people close to him. so there's a lot that's fishy that the fec and federal prosecutors should be looking into. >> there's a watchdog last week that filed a complaint asking the fec to investigate this. will they? how far do you think this will go, or should go at least, considering what you know about this case? >> based on what i know about
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this case, i don't think there's any doubt the fec should launch an investigation, at the very least and let's take it from there. let's get answers to these questions. the problem with the fec is that in recent years it is deadlocked over serious investigations, three republicans on the fec have said they don't want to investigate unless you give us proof there was a violation. so i'm somewhat skeptical. but having said that, there are cases that are too much for the fec where they say they have to investigate this. i think this is very well one of those cases. one of the things going back to the expenditures for a second, one of the allegations is he used some of the money for personal use, which is a serious violation, one the candidate himself will be liable for. if what he was trying to do is hide the real sources or the real expenditures and where they went to because some of this could be seen for personal use that shows some sort of scheme. i don't know that's what happened but it is strange to
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see $199.99. i guess it's the $199 store for political expenditures. but i have not seen that before. and it's pretty blatant. >> we have to go, larry, but can you respond to this. a new chair of the house oversight committee, you saw james comer there saying people lie all the time. but this is not that. this is beyond that. for him to say that is a little too -- >> he also said if he did something financially wrong he has to go. >> look at the evidence. go ahead, larry. >> that is very serious here. he's not just lied potentially on his campaign finance reports. it's also been alleged that he's lied about his background, he's not gone to the college he said he went to, he's not worked at the places he said he worked. he potentially lied about his family background. i heard him on, i guess it was a radio show or podcast the other day saying he played soccer in
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college and he didn't even go there. seems like he lies about a lot of things. >> rolvolleyball. >> yeah, sorry, volleyball. that tells you something if those are all true lies, true that he lied, it tells you about his character. and that's very important when you're a member of congress. it's frightening that a members of congress says everybody lies. >> how true. thank you, larry. thank you, jennifer. appreciate it. this morning a massive jump in reported covid deaths in china. why the country went from reporting 37 to nearly 60,000 covid deaths. we'll take you live to hong kong next.
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with a no fee refund advance loan. buck yeah. file your taxes today at jackson hewitt. a modern day whodunit with twist after twist. we're talking about "glass onion: a knives out mystery" streaming now on netflix i. chronicles an eccentric billionaire inviting his friends to a murder mystery on a greek island. >> one guest, janelle monae, puts quite a wrinkle when she arrives. >> can you spot the other thing, the real thing this group has in common? >> randi, come on. >> oh lionel, everybody knows who lionel works for. that's no secret. we know who bank rolled claire's
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campaign, but when nobody would touch birdie with a ten-foot pole because she went on oprah and compared herself to harriet tubman. who do you think showed up? >> we sat down with actress and music superstar janelle monae. >> good to see you. welcome, welcome, welcome. >> thank you so much for having me. >> people are fascinated with this film, "glass onion." you're very intense with it, by the way. >> i remember being in greece on that island in a that villa, the warmth, being with my cast mates. this is the type of movie -- i can't tell you the amount of texts i've gotten from all my friends. i've watched it with my clids, my mom, my grandparents. who doesn't want to serve a murder mystery about a group of
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rich folks going on an island back stapping each other. >> i've been obsessed with you for a long time because i know you're from atlanta, she's obsessed from "glass onion." you have to interview janelle monae. >> what i love is you play multiple different characters. >> spoiler alert, if you have not seen it. >> can we do that? >> spoiler alert. >> spoiler alert. >> you play different characters. i kind of what drew you to that role and how it's different than the other roles that people know you as playing. >> i played a character that has a lot of secrets. with that as an actress, such a great opportunity to -- you're hiding something from the audience and there's so much depth there and so many layers after layers after layers that you have to peel back. when i read the script, i was blown away by the twists, by me
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playing helen brand and also cassandra brand, and playing helen pretending to play cassandra brand before the audience finds out and helen pretending to be andi after you find out. i knew it was going to be a big challenge in the best possible way. it was essentially like four characters. i was reedy for it. i was excited. i have to give so much thanks to writer/director ryan johnson. this is a character he created, exciting murder mystery that he created, and for him and daniel to have me along for this ride is no small thing. >> you've called yourself a self-proclaimed transformer, and that you love going outside of what you think you know about yourself. >> uh-huh. >> what does that mean? >> yeah. my word for this year is discovery. discover something new about yourself. that's always something in the back of my mind, as an actor, as a story. when ever i'm telling story,
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whenever i'm creating art, i want to present something new for myself, for the audience. >> can i just say personally -- i think i met you in 2006. >> oh, my god. it's been that long. >> it makes my heart flutter to see what you have done, moonlight, hidden figures, glass onion, your music, what you're doing for fashion and art in your journey, it's amazing. >> did you ever think janelle monae would be the janelle monae she is right now? >> you brought back so many memories. i think at that time in my life, i think i might have been singing on the club woody steps, selling cds out of my trunk. i remember working hard. i'm happy i haven't lost that
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work ethic. you know, i love creating, and no matter, just thinking about the films that you just mentioned. if it had not been for "moonlight" and "hidden figures," i wouldn't have been prepared for a role of this magnitude. i sit in gratitude. i sit in constant gratitude. there's not a moment in my life that i remember not being able to sing or act or perform. my mom was always taking me to the musicals or the after school sh shakespearean programs. think for reminding me of the journey. it seems like i'm still on it. >> and so grounded, that's the important part. >> so exciting. thank you so much for coming on to talk about this and everything you've done. it' amazing. >> thank you, guys. get some rest. >> "glass onion" streaming of netflix right now. >> congratulations. good morning. five more pages of
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