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king's life and legacy in my view show us the way forward. >> president biden delivering a message of unity on this mlk day as he faces cameras again after a third batch of classified documents were found. republicans demanding more information. let's get you caught up to speed now on what we know. so over the weekend, five additional pages of classified material were discovered at his wilmington, delaware, home. that, of course, comes just two days after we first learned that documents had been found there, period, and of course after a special counsel was announced. this is also two months after documents were internationally found in a private -- initially found in a private office in washington, d.c. arlette saenz and evan perez leading us off. evan, first, this does feel like it's heating up, and we know republicans want more answers. what are they demanding at this point? >> reporter: what they want is for the white house and the justice department to provide more information about exactly what these documents are and how
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many and where these searches have been done. they want to know everything about this investigation. in contrast with the way they've essentially not wanted to know very much about the investigation involving former president trump and his handling of classified information. but you heard from the republicans. they see a moment, erica, that certainly for the white house and for president biden who were claiming to have the moral high ground. they see that this is not so anymore. here's james comer who is one of the incoming -- one of the new people who's going to be demanding these answers, he's running the oversight committee, talking about this. >> we want to know the visitor logs to the residence, we want to know who had access to the biden center for diplomacy. this is the same type of investigation that the democrats were so outraged and launched december demanded happen to president trump. we don't know exactly yet
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whether they broke the law or not. i will accuse the bieden administration of noting being transparent. >> reporter: he wants access to visitor logs. the white house says there are no visitor logs, certainly not for the president's wilmington home. but you can bet that that is not going to be the last time we're going to hear from republicans wanting answers. >> it certainly will not be. we should point out democrats also asking for answers, as we know, over the weekend. arlette, what is the latest from the white house? >> reporter: the white house has said that they will cooperate with the special counsel investigation, but they are also facing all questions from republican committees eager to investigate the white house. as for the question regarding the visitors logs, the white house and secret service have said that visitors logs of the president's home in wilmington, delaware, simply don't exist. the white house noting that like previous presidents, his
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personal home is personal. this comes as there are growing questions about the amount of classified documents that the president had at both the penn biden center here in washington, d.c., and also at his wilmington home. over the weekend the white house acknowledging that there was actually more classified material found this week at the wilmington residence than initially stated. the white house counsel are releasing a statement revealing that he traveled up to delaware to facilitate the transfer of what they thought was one document with one page, to the justice department, but ultimately it ended up being five additional pages. this is just the latest example of the shifting narrative and explanations that we've gotten from this white house since the news of these classified documents first broke last monday. and over the weekend the president's personal attorney, bob bower, tried to defend their information sharing approach saying that they don't want to impact the investigations under way. bower said in a statement, quote, the president's personal attorneys have attempted to balance the importance of public transparency where appropriate
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with the established norms and limitations necessary to protect the investigation's integrity. these considerations require avoiding the public release of detailed relevant to the investigation while it is ongoing. there are still so many questions facing this white house as it is increasingly becoming not just a political problem but also potentially a legal problem as the special counsel investigation gets underway. >> to that point, evan, in terms of the legal issues, these latest documents that we've learned about, are there any new legal questions that come along with them that we know of? >> reporter: absolutely, and one of the important new things that happened over the weekend is that we learned that dick sauber, this special counsel inside the white house counsel's office, somebody brought in specifically to handle these oversight requests from republicans, he traveled up to wilmington because he has a security clearance. and he said he handled -- he handed over documents to the justice department that came to pick them up.
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the question there that this immediately raises is, you know, why is a government employee, somebody who works in the white house counsel's office, going to the president's personal residence, as arlette pointed out. one reason they don't have visitor logs is because it's a personal residence. now you're mixing the personal with the government, and that's going to make sauber a new witness that the justice department, the fbi is going to have to talk to. they're adding messy components to something that's already pretty big problem. and here's the final thing i would say, you know, for investigators often when they see shifting narratives like that, they begin to suspect that there is something else that's being hidden. are there more documents somewhere else that have not been accounted for, and how do we make sure that we do that? >> yeah. it's a great point. and the word choice of messy seems entirely appropriate at this point. arlette, evan, appreciate it. thank you both. in ukraine, a desperate
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search for survivors after a russian missile strike destroyed an apartment building in dnipro. at least 40 people are dead. the search for survivors goes on. and just some heartbreaking moments including this scene. this is a young girl cleaning up the rubble in the aftermath of that attack. cnn's fred pleitgen is at the scene. >> reporter: the morning brings to light the full extent of the destruction. the residential building home to dozens of families annihilated down to the foundation. even though rescue crews still work, the chances of finding survivors now virtually zero. all night residents watched in fear, anger, and grief. ola says she passed by the building only about half an hour before it was hit. there are many friends and people close to me here, many, many, she says. elena stunned by the scale of
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the destruction curses the russians. [ speaking non-english ] "i simply hate them. children, people died here." and she can't speak anymore. throughout the night, the death toll continued to jump. on top of the many killed, ukrainian authorities say dozens were injured, many of them children. in just this location in dnipro, one of many sites in ukraine russia targeted with barrages of missiles this weekend. the ukrainians say the reason why the damage here is so extensive is that this building was hit with a cruise missile called the kh22. that's designed to destroy aircraft carrier strike groups. and obviously when it hit the building it annihilated it, burying dozens underneath. the ukrainians call the attack state terrorism, and the president says rescuers will continue to try and save anyone
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trapped here. "let's fight for every person," president zelenskyy says, "the rescue operation will last as long as there is even the slightest chance to save a life." but even the slightest hope has now all but died, and this is essentially a recovery operation. the crews searching for bodies where so many lives were violently ended in an instant. fred pleitgen, cnn, dnipro, ukraine. >> just horrific. in nepal, officials we're learning have recovered the black box of a yeti airlines passenger plane that crashed. citizens were from australia, france, and ireland. we have all the developments. >> reporter: after two days of search operations, rescue teams have recovered at least 69 bodies from the crash site in western nepal. the bodies were pull out using cranes. three people are still missing, and officials say the chance of finding survivors is extremely
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low. a video on social media appears to show the passenger plane banking suddenly moments before the crash in western nepal. on sunday morning, a yeti airlines operated flight embarked on roughly 30-minute flight from the capital of kathmandu to the country's second most populace city. >> translator: we heard a loud, thunderous crash and reached our terrace to see what happened. we saw a lot of spoke and realized it was an airline crash and rushed to the site. >> reporter: the flight was last in contact with the airport 18 minutes after takeoff before it came crashing down in the nearby river gorge. the deadliest in more than three decades in nepal. dozens of bodies have been pulled out of the gorge using cranes. some are yet to be identified by family members. on monday, rescue teams retrieved the black boxes. the flight data and cockpit voice recorder that could help understand the moments leading
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up to the crash. the country has a record of air accidents due to its mountainous topography and sudden changes to the weather. but in this case, officials say it was a clear day. the nepal government has set up a panel to probe the air accident and will hopefully find answers to what led to the third worst aviation accident in nepal's history. the panel appointed by the government is expected to submit its report within 45 days. hopefully the black box will hold the answers investigators and families are looking for. there may be some relief finally in sight for millions of people in california still reeling from the nonstop rain. of course, the devastating floods. today, though, there is expected to be one last day of intense showers, and the aftermath could last long after the skies clear up. plus, a player for the university of alabama's basketball team is behind bars after police say he and another
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know there are major lasting problems. what are the -- what are the issues today? >> reporter: right. the rain may have passed for today. it was pouring early this morning, but really the issue is because there has been so much rain, storm after storm after storm, for the last three weeks or so, there is so much saturation, there's nowhere for the water to go. those mudslides, the roads giving way, that is still going to be happening as the day progresses. here this traffic back up is because of a closure on state route 37 here in novato. and if we have a couple of the still pictures that caltrans sent us, that's an example of water just flowing over the roadway. and they did a good job pumping that water off yesterday, but then they told me this morning it flooded again overnight because of that extra rain. it is a common story that we're hearing all across the state. i continue to see alerts from different county emergency
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management officials telling people about road closures because of mudslides. that soil is just so saturated. we're also, of course, seeing some incredible footage of rescues, including in orange county in southern california, where in laguna hills a woman was rescued after she was hanging onto a tree by a fast-moving creek right there. and the same orange county fire authority sharing a picture of them rescuing a man out of the water overnight, as well. and then in southern california, as well, we saw the multiple trees coming down on a number of cars in a shopping mall parking lot. so these are the types of things that may continue to happen because, again, the ground, the rivers, it is all so saturated from what we've experienced over the last couple of weeks. >> just nowhere for that water to go. so much of it coming in at once. appreciate it. thank you. a university of alabama
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basketball player is in jail charged with capital murder. dusk loosea police arrested darius miles and another man after a shooting near the campus. a shooting which left a 23-year-old woman dead. miles has been kicked off the team. cnn now with more. martin, what led to the shooting in the first place? >> reporter: it's still being determined exactly. but it appears to be one of those instances where you had a split second of bad decisionmaking that's going to lead to a lifetime of heartbreak and tragedy for a number of families. direus miles of a third year forward on the university of alabama men's team. he's been kicked off the team because he has been charged with murder along with another man, michael lynn davis, 20 years of age. the two men were arrested after an incident that authorities in tuscaloosa say they were called to around 1:45 a.m. sunday morning in an area about a half mile off campus in an entertainment district. when police arrived on the scene, they found a female dead
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inside of a vehicle. 23 years of age. she died of a gunshot wound. the driver of the that vehicle said that the two suspects opened fire on them. the driver says he returned fire, believed he wounded one of them. it was after talking to witnesses, looking at surveillance video that authorities were able to make the arrests. and yes, one of the men was wounded. we don't know which one. the question here is why, and authorities will only say that there was apparently some minor altercation that led up to this, and then came the gunfire and now comes the heartbreak. capital murder which both of these men have been charged with is the most serious crime in the state of alabama. erica? >> horrific and tragic situation. thank you. we have new details about a tragedy at the university of georgia. a football player, devin willock, and a team staff member killed early sunday morning in a car crash. this happened just hours after the bulldogs' national championship celebration. so you can see here in the
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parade, fans there as you can tell. just a terrible, terrible story. cnn has more from athens, georgia, and i know that you actually just spoke with the family. what more are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah. hey, i just spoke with devin wi and uncle who, as you can understand, are just overwhelmed by this with emotion, just so incredibly sad at what has happened. calling devin a gentle soul, but on the football field he was a different man. they also told me that his father was just so incredibly proud of him. actually traveling with him all over to watch every single college football game. the family is just devastated, and that grief is just echoing because this is not the first time that they've been through this. federal 15 years ago his older brother jonathan got into a car crash and died, same age, 20
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years old. that father losing two sons in the same manner. but i want you to listen now to how his aunt and uncle want devin to be remembered. >> it's such -- always smiling, always happy. always wanting to help people. kid had a heart of gold. >> he was a good kid. very good nephew. he's a good kid. good heart. he loved people. very caring young man. and he had a bright future ahead of him. >> reporter: also in the car, chandler lecroy, the driver, she was a football recruiting analyst according to her linkedin. she was killed. and we heard from athens-clarke county police department about the two survivors, victoria bowles, she had serious injuries, and also uga player warren mcclendon. and erica, i am anticipating and have asked for the police department to give me a copy of
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t that incident report. they're working on that. hopefully that should shed more light into what exactly happened behind this crash. they're anticipating that that report could be out as soon as tomorrow. >> all right. we know you'll bring that to us, and just heartbreaking for the family and to hear what has happened to the willock family now twice. appreciate the reporting. thank you. one of europe's most-wanted men on the run for 30 years arrested. how agents in italy finally nabbed a notorious mafmafia bos. and an american wrongfully detained in iran goes on a hunger strike to draw attention to his case. what the white house is saying ahead. time the other day...and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first titimer. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. is that glitter? this table is on its last leg. find just what you need at wayfair! you need this. you'reelly clarkson!
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astonishing. 30 years is a long time. he was kind of hiding in plain sight. he didn't look that different from the age progression images that the police have been putting out. he was at this clinic in central palermo, a busy city, the biggest city in sicily, for some sort of treatment. the police say that they had been honing in on him, they knew he had medical problems. he was using an alias which translates to good faith which is probably a joke on the prosecutors and the police. but they arrested him without incident. that he said his real name when they took him into custody. but this is one of the most notorious criminals of the sicilian cosanostro. he is suspected in a number of crimes including the death of a 12-year-old boy whose body was dissolved in acid. getting him off the playing field as it were in sicily is a very beig score for the police officers. it cannot be mistaken that there is somebody out there ready to replace him. >> wow, appreciate it.
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an american wrongfully detained in iran began a week-long hunger strike. the protest marks seven years since he was left behind in a prisoner swap. he's calling on president biden to do more to free him and other detainees in iran. he's one of three americans still being held. cnn's kiley atwood joining us from the state department with more. there's this impassioned plea and appeal to the president. what more is he saying, and what's the response? >> reporter: yeah, listen, he wrote a pretty moving letter to president biden, erica. and part of that letter he describes just how challenging it has been for him to be in iranian prison for more than seven years now saying one of the hardest questions to answer is how is he doing because he says how is he supposed to tell people how he's doing when he has been left behind, left in iran when other americans have been detained and then been released as part of prisoner swaps and other efforts by the
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u.s. government. and this week marks seven years since there were five americans who were freed from iranian detention, and he was in iranian prison at the time, and he was left behind. so he is reminding president biden of that awful anniversary for him. biden was then vice president during the obama administration. what he's asking biden to do is spend one moment every single day to remember him and the fact that he has been in iranian prison. he has been interrogated in iranian prison for the last seven years. of course we have seen other americans who have been wrongfully detained abroad and family members trying to attract the attention of the president because they believe that he is the person, the key person to be able to kind of secure their release. they think if he put some personal attention on it, then they have a higher likelihood of getting out.
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now the national security council told us that they are intensely focused on trying to secure his release and the two other americans who are still wrongfully detained in iran. but we should note that u.s.-iran relations are quite hostile right now. of course we haven't had diplomatic relations with iran in decades now. but just the general tone of the relationship given the fact that there are no current talks to revive the iran nuclear deal, those efforts are on the back burner, given the fact that the u.s. has been very critical of the iranian regime's crackdown on protesters in the country, things just aren't great right now. erica? >> that is for sure. kiley atwood, appreciate the update. thank you. it could spark a series of catastrophic, catastrophic events for the american economy, and it could happen as soon as thursday. yeah, we're talking about the debt ceiling and the very real consequences hitting it could have for all of us.
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the u.s. now just days away from hitting the nation's debt limit. if congress doesn't act, the nation is expected to reach that limit on thursday. as in this thursday. if that happens the biden administration would have to take what are known as extraordinary measures, immediate action to avert a full-blown economic disaster. let's bring in richard quest and melanie zanona. melanie on capitol hill. richard, a lot of this makes eyes glaze over. this is a big deal. remind us what the debt ceiling
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is and what could potentially happen if we hit that limit. what could happen on thursday? >> reporter: sure. absolutely. the debt ceiling is nothing more than your overdraft. you can write it big and small, you can make it as complicated as you like, but the truth is the u.s. federal government has a debt ceiling, has an overdraft of $31.4 trillion. it's used to pay for debt interest, for the military, for -- there's all sorts of things that it's paying for, but it is nothing more exciting than the federal government's overdraft to pay for things that congress has already approved. it's really important to remember that. this isn't new spending. this is spending that the government and congress has already approved. so the debt ceiling has been -- the overdraft, let's keep it in nice language. the overdraft has been raised by 78 times. even stevens between republicans
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and democrats, 29 by the democrats, set 49 by the republicans. but as you get closer and once you hit your overdraft, then you have these extraordinary measures. again, let me simplify. it's nothing more than robbing peter to pay paul. you are doing literally where's the money. the treasury, janet yellen, i won't pay that there, pay this here, and this pension fund won't get paid now and we'll pay more in a week or three's time. everybody gets paid in the end, but you do have to move the money around because you can't borrow more. if there's no deal by june, god help us. if there's no deal by june, you are looking at janet yellen running out of robbing peter to pay paul. you're running out of the ability to move the money. and then you have just one
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simple option -- default. you don't pay a bill. that is so horrific to think about that the u.s. government would default that nobody wants to go there, not yet. >> they may not want to, but boy, melanie, do they love just creeping right up to the edge. so in terms of these talks, where do we stand today? what are the sticking points? >> reporter: this fight boils down to whether or not congress is going to just simply raise the debt ceiling or whether they're going to put any conditions on it. speaker kevin mccarthy in his bid to become speaker promised to tie the debt ceiling to spending cuts which potentially means cuts or reforms to social security and medicare which is a hard line for democrats. in fact, democratic leaders are calling for a clean debt ceiling hike, noting that republicans raised the debt ceiling multiple times under former president donald trump and didn't put any conditions on it. so this is really shaping up to be a massive showdown on capitol
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hill. now, mccarthy said he wants to sit down and meet with president biden and to start those sorts of negotiations and figure out a path forward, that hasn't happened yet. but in the meantime, republicans are preparing emergency contingency plans. sources tell me that house republicans are preparing to pass a proposal that would direct the treasury department over which payments to prioritize in case the nation does default on its debt. so it's really a sign of how serious and real this threat has become, erica. >> so richard, i'm curious, you're at the world economic forum in davos. is this a topic of discussion among world leaders, among business leaders? are they looking at the u.s. and going "here we go again"? >> they're certainly saying here we go again. it's not a topic of discussion or debate because nobody believes that the u.s. in their right mind would ever play ducks and drakes with the federal deficit. no. nobody's worried about it. here they're worried about ukraine, oil, they're worried
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about all sorts of the global recession, inflation, the cost of living. if i want a chicken caesar salad here with a coke, it's going to cost me the best part of $35. >> i'm going to let that sink in because you left me speechless. i thought prices in new york were bad. you win, and not in a good way. thank you both. to the latest now in embattled congressman george santos. the words frankly no one would like to hear from their new co-worker -- >> he's a bad guy. this is something that, you know, it's really bad. he's going to be under strict ethics investigations, not necessarily for lying but for his campaign finance, potential violations. >> not for the lying but at least for the campaign finance. cnn with more now. of course that was not just any co-worker, that is the republican chair of the house oversight committee, james
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comer. is there any indication, though, this afternoon even that anything is going to change on the hill for santos right now? let's be honest, a lot of to comes down to the votes and republicans want to keep his right there. >> reporter: in answer to your question, erica, not in the immediate sense. what it does illustrate is some house republicans like congressman comer who we word there are trying to keep their distance. even those lawmakers who aren't explicitly calling for santos to resign suggest they have very little appetite to work with him. and the hill, it's a collaborative place. it calls into question how effective he can be as a member of congress. here are what some other house republicans are saying -- >> pretty hard not to conclude he's a bit of a goofball. he clearly lied to his constituents and to your point, as well, it's going to be very, very difficult for him to gain the trust of his colleagues. and i don't know what he's going to do. i mean, the reality is you can't expel a member of congress at the end of the day, it really is up to the voters in nassau
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county. >> if it was me, i would resign. i wouldn't be able to face my voters after having gone through that. but this is between him and his constituents. >> reporter: by now many of are you familiar with the litany of lies that he has told on everything from his college resume to working at goldman sachs, to having grandparents that survived the holocaust. but there are new questions about who knew what when. democrats have called on gop leadership to cooperate with any potential forthcoming house ethics committee investigation. new york congressman dan goldman and richie torres, they sent a letter to speaker kevin mccarthy, the house gop chair, the president of the congressional leadership fund, the clf, that's a super pac affiliated with the house gop. and in the letter they cited new reporting indicating they had at least some knowledge of the lies santos used to deceive his voters. now cnn has reported the president of clf expressed
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concerns about santos' background prior to the election and contacted lawmakers and donors with those concerns. congressman torres for his part, he'll be in santos' district tomorrow holding an event with his constituents in great neck. erica? >> eva mckend. appreciate it. thank you. collision averted, but man, was this one close. a fast-acting air traffic controller preventing disaster at jfk airport. and identifying a safety issue with pfizer's updated covid vaccine. how big is the rink here? helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to invesesting, with low-cost options to h help maximize savings. from t the plains to the coast, we help americans invest for their future. anhelp communities thrive.
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a tragedy barely averted at jfk airport in new york when two passenger jets came within 1,000 feet of hitting each other on the runway. our aviation expert is with us. 1,000 feet to me when we're talking about planes seems a little too close. >> it's very close. we're talking about three football fields which in aviation terms is not that much when you consider these airplanes are hundreds of feet long. the good news is here we were narrowly avoiding disaster. the emphases is narrowly avoiding disaster. this is the animation from flight radar 24, that's a delta
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air lines 737 on runway 4 left at jfk. the other airplane is an american airlines 777, it crossed the runway as the delta flight was accelerating for takeoff. listen to the air traffic control audio. you get to hear the urgency in the controller's voice as he realized what was developing in front of him. >>. [ bleep ] cancel takeoff plans. cancel takeoff plans. >> rejecting. >> rejected takeoff, something that pilots take off all the time in the simulator. rare in real life. now the faa and the ntsb are investigating this. they'll have questions for the pilots of both mrplanes. it's called a runway incursion. it happens all the time. 1,600 times according to the faa
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in 2022, but rarely this dramatic, though we have seen the consequences, the disaster of 1977 when two 747s hit each other on the runway. 580 people killed. aviation experts i've been talking to say this is very, very similar. >> way too close for comfort. i do want your take on this, we just got some more information about that plane crash in nepal. learning now that the pilot had asked to change the landing runway just minutes before the crash. you're not just our correspondent here, i know you're a pilot, you're a flight instructor. what do you make of that information and this sudden change even? >> it's something that no doubt investigators will be looking into. why the pilots requested to land on a different runway, though the video we've seen surfacing online shows the plane in clear air, no visible damage or
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problems to the airplane, just you can see the wing drop there, the left wing drop and the airplane roll into the ground. whether or not they changed runways and whether or not that impacted the outcome of the crash, we will have to see. french investigators are now on the way. they'll be lending a hand here. we'll see if american investigators get involved. we know 72 people have likely been killed in this accident. a very horrible turn of events, this yeti airlines flight. that airplane opened two weeks before. that will also be something that investigators look at as well because it may be something that the pilots were unfamiliar with. >> it is just a terrible tragedy. pete, always appreciate your expertise. thank you. this afternoon, there's some new questions about the safety of pfizer's covid vaccine when it comes to some people, not all, but for some people. a cdc monitoring system depicting a possible increase in a certain type of stroke for people 65 and older. elizabeth cohen joining us now.
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i can understand why the headline here would be cause for concern for people. let's be clear, is pfizer's covid-19 vaccine causing strokes in people? >> we would never use the word causing. this is not one of those things where you say goodness, we think this is causing this. here's how it works. the fda and the cdc have these very sensitive systems for looking at side effects to vaccines, as they should. you're giving them to lots of people. you want to see if there are side effects. one system said we think we might be seeing that when seniors are getting the pfizer covid shot, that they're seeing an increase in strokes. then they checked with other systems that they have. they checked with medicare and with the veterans administration and they didn't see that same association. here's the bottom line from the cdc and the fda, according to a statement they put out. they said the totality of the
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data currently suggests it's very unlikely -- think about those words -- very unlikely that the signal in the database represents a true clinical risk. that is a fancy way of saying we saw this kind of blip, but we checked it out, we think it's very unlikely to be real. so, the bottom line is that senior citizens should get their covid boosters, this is the one available since september, which covers not just the original strain but also the omicron strain. >> and are people getting that shot? >> you know what? not so much. if you look at the latest cdc data, what you see is that about 40% of seniors have chosen to get the shot, again available since september 1st. and also about 16% of people over the age of 5. so 16% of people over the age of 5 getting the shot, that's not a great statistic. >> yeah. elizabeth cohen, do we know -- we'll have to leave it there. sorry.
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