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tonight they're multiple sources telling cnn that there could be even more searches and even more locations after classified documents were found at the presidents one-time private office. more, of course, and in his home in wilmington. the white house counsel office calling this week in and saying that additional five pages of classified material has also been found in wilmington. so just how is the white house reacting to all of this. when you talk to republican strategist guys back. senior political commentator at that incident yet mitchell is also here. often correspondent for the atlanta journal-constitution. let me begin with you, actually, cause you have the recording that biden is growing, quote, frustrated is the word but how this is being handled internally.
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some would say about time, because it is not a good look. what is your take? >> i think with biden was trying to do is distance himself from this issue because if they're classified documents and one of them was found and turned over to the archive in the doj. i think the trickling out of knowing about that there is a side here a state there it's like a story that wound and. it sounds like what they're doing today is making a statement that we are searching as many places as possible to identify from over to the arc of something the doj. it is not great politically. i still stand by the fact that there are two very different cases with former president trump and biden but i can understand even though his lawyers handled this legally correctly. with the communication lines it seems like there's been a few examples. there is the comparisons and i
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want to go back to timeline. the timeline is really crucial to me the idea when did you know if and when you knew it what did you do about it? for 68 days, looks like for 68 days about they didn't say anything about the document discovery. now i know full well of course the doj has their rules about what they will disclose. and we had that discussion about that very point but i wonder about the idea that explanation the idea of trying to get around the doj. it's not connecting the voters or is the concern maybe not? >> i think what is connecting with voters is kind of on that granular level. that president biden has classified documents after criticizing former president trump of being careless with classified documents. i think that is the main takeaway from voters and a lot of that nuance is that yes, it is true, is not the same. the obstructions that was proceeding for the former presidents he is not the same. the refusal to cooperate is not
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perceived as the same but i don't know how closely voters are following that. the timeline, i also think. i'm not sure voters are really following that even. the pr kind of concerns, that we are hearing, has gotten to this on a more specific level, and i don't think voters really care about. that voters are really following. i think the general discussion is, why does president biden have classified documents in the same way that former president trump was criticized for having classified documents >> back on that point you have congressman comer who's investigating the trump talking about these issues about the comparisons between the investigations with trump and for biden. listen to this >> there been so many investigations of president trump i feel like we don't need to spend a lot of time investigating president trump because the democrats have done that for the past six years. >> and yet, you've got the white house spokesperson reacting, in some respects, and given statement. here's what it says, as house
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republicans have no credibility. president biden is doing the right thing and is cooperating fully with a thorough review. but house republicans are playing politics in a shamelessly hypocritical attempt to attack president biden. that is white house pokes men in sam's. i wonder what your reaction to that is? also, he was speaking that if we go back in times how trump was speaking about say hillary clinton. there is some comparisons to be drawn about the pr reactions. what do you say? >> there's alters when politics. and what you saw last week and still going on now is at the white house has to explain this. and more voters aren't really in on the details on this where the sets of papers were in all this. but there is a response to a really good day for the white house. and that's what i want to drive home. instead -- then go well for him. and the prospect didn't go well for kareem. because they lost out on
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driving on core message. which is a strong economy. >> that is the problem here politically. you don't look to say while there it is not as bad as trump. i would agree, fox bet is trump. but the court biden promises that, me and my proteins, when it will make the mistakes of donald trump and his adams family staff. well, that is a problem. they're expend explaining. -- >> they connection, the connective tissue here for us is that we have president biden, former president trump, who is hoping to become president yet again. both, well, we haven't heard fully from biden. but both men, considerably, or trying to run for reelection to the presidency. what impact to all this had? there's probably some were sullivan thinking, well, hold on this might be my entryway into the race. >> there's a couple ways attack you can look at it. the first is former president trump, was already announced. the somewhat anti
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climactically. there was announcement that is running for president. and if sitting president joe biden decides to run for reelection. if there are two main's at the top to take it, i think it crosses them out. if, on the dam side, for some reason. president biden decides not to go for reelection. i don't think these classified documents will play any role in any of the democratic bench weather not there can announce, and how successful they'll be. it'll be something of the past, and a good four years for biden. but, if some of the democratic side, which doesn't seem to be and i don't think it should be. decides to try and get out ahead of this before president biden were to announce. they could really use these documents against joe biden, to dry and -- again, i think because the biden administration and that it might not be as smooth as everyone wanted to be i think the government does a department. the national archives. they will get past this.
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the question is how many more announcements with the special counsel have? and how drones is that story last. at some point to the relinquish their power by being so compliant and to doj? >> and really isn't a hemorrhage, to, but is certainly not clogging yet, politically. and i'm wondering, as governor desantis look at this and going, yes, tell me more about this trump? want to talk more about these issues? do you think somebody like him, or others, could see these as -- who are looking back and think this is good for their ambition. >> i think anyone who has their sights set on the white house, in 2024, it is looking at this and try to figure out how they can capitalize on and governor desantis can because he's not privy to federally classified documents. so he can breathe pretty sure that he won't have this issue by trump or biden, that being said, it is still a long ways
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away. and i think there is a risk of over playing your hand, especially, when it comes to president biden. because, in the grand scope of things, they're talking about a relatively small number of documents that it was -- even president trump got issues with the documents. it wasn't that he had them, it's when the repeated request to turn them over it was appearing that he was not cooperative. it's a husband said that former presidents, sometimes, there are a lot of documents in their papers they turn over. sometimes classified record gets lost in there. so, i think it's easy to overplay, and that's the risk that trump, or biden has. but, at the same token. when the special counsel started looking. who knows what might be uncovered. and that's a risk for president biden going forward. >> we're gonna come back to you all, along with this issue, as well as other issues. including, how, well, georgia -- georgia's crucial democrats
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voter percentage that we georgia stands alone at 29%. no other state that joe biden won by less than 5% anywhere close to it. michigan a 12%, pennsylvania 11%. another state that really rally for democrats in 2020 arizona. very tight, just like georgia. well within half a percentage point for biden. and went all the way down, at 2%. so, in georgia, black voters are very important. but here is the other key thing to recognize about georgia. and that is, take a look at the black voter percentage. according to the secretary of state, for whom the races known. we are looking at those, some look at this in 2020. black voters made of 29% as we just pointed out. look we were in 2000. it's just 23%. so it's not just that black voters make up a very large percentage of the georgia electorate. their percentage of the georgia electorate is growing. compare that to nationally,
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right? where 11% back in 2000. i just 12% in 2020. so we see disproportional growth in georgia, of the black voter percentage. and just to give you an idea of how this map kind of works, right? look at the 2020 georgia presidential results. the actual rose by 0.22 percentage points. if in fact, the black voter percentage of the electorate had stayed the same for back to thousand. donald trump won by about six points. so that by the black voter percentage is rising that is a large part of the reason that joe biden was able to come away with that narrow victory in the peach state. >> wow, that is the presidential race i was wondering, as we've seen, for georgia. we keep looking at georgia, and everyone's mind. time and time again. for the senate runoff races as well. deciding, of course, who's gonna be in power, the majority. power how have black voters impacted the senate runoffs? big lead. big lead. traditionally speaking.
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black voter percentage in the georgia runoff has shrunk. but look back at the 2020 runoff. the turnout is percentage of the 2020 general election. and the majority black county's. it was 92%. that is their proportion was very close to proportion that they made up in the general electorate. and all of the counties, whose 89%. so black letters actually made up a large percentage in the runoff and they did in the general election. that is very unusual. raffle were not in the 2021 senate special runoff. look at that, one by 86 points. ossoff won by 84 points. considerably larger than biden 's 20 2020 presidential election, just 77 points. then, of course. in the 2022 senate runoff. look at that, we're knock over one by three among black voters
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who won by 93 points. among all other voters, look at. that her show walker won by 33. black voters put rafael wardak back unite senate for a filter that does look back, we'll see how it will actually impact the upcoming 2024 race. , perinton, sorry about -- that with the, now doug hyde, actually alison, anti mitchell. well, you heard carries analysis on this point and biden really didn't have a big presence in the georgia special or virginia senate election for senator warnock, right? a very crucial seat and what do you make of him now being back there and recognizing the impact, yet again? >> i think that biden always understood the importance of georgia. and that is why he stayed away during election season. that was part of the calculus that, in georgia, that biden and harris would not be helpful. it was one of the only swing
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states he didn't visit during election season. >> why wouldn't they be? i, mean that's very telling. you have biden who talked about having their backs, i'll have your, back you'll have mine. all the conversation, everyone references. and you have vice president harris in our democracy, why would they have been not helpful? >> i think because raphael warnock being a different kind of candidate, he is a black man running in a state where, yes, he needs black voters but i don't think that he needs biden or harris to help him turnout black voters in georgia. meanwhile, he was trying to reach out to voters in the middle. and, in that way, he was distanced-ing himself somewhat from the biden administration. or at least asserting independent from the biden administration. a big part of raphael's campaign message was saying, hey, i could work across the aisle with republicans, and we talk more about ted cruz during the campaign then he talked about joe biden and his ability to work with ted cruz on the
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infrastructure bill to get funding for new highways, for example. so, you know, he talked about i can block my party when i need to. i spoke out, i criticize them on his failure to pass voting rights, for example. and, i could work across the aisle. i think that he and his advisers were worried that if biden visit would worry too much on the president, too much on the presidents lack of failures, a lack of progress. >> that's a cool reading? >> did he have approval rating? >> both from across the aisle from across the table let me ask you this because he is in georgia at a time one of course you all know there has been conversations about the primaries being up for the southern state, carolina being first and georgia coming up in the ranks as well. i wonder what you make of the analysis on how harry has mates fares. what do you think of that from democrats versus americans? >> i don't think there's a big difference between the parties and for disclosure i ran for
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the caucus in 2012. i love iowa. up, but clearly, it wasn't sustainable for democrats. between iowa and new hampshire was one into, however they make that decision and obviously i will have some counting difficulties for the caucuses. so was unsustainable for democrats, and republicans are going to move from, that they're gonna move that to see, we care about a rule of voters, we care about rural issues. but, clearly you're seeing a shift in how the parties are targeting voters. i talked a lot to the point that a lot of our republican colleagues told us to shut up about, don't forget north carolina. at a very close senate race and it didn't get any national attention. he had african american candidates on the democratic side. >> a judge. >> a judge, and democrats in north carolina. you had 11 hsbc use. where barack obama surprised everybody by winning in 2008. it wasn't part, because, those weren't just hsbc news those were machines for obama. and it caught republican snap. and don't forget north carolina,
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south carolina is a very red state. but, clearly, it dominance that african americans had in carolina is a key for them. >> not just georgia, right. there's other states as, well and we're thinking about that so i just wonder about the messaging now for, say, president biden or other candidates who are key to these data points. before his message was about democracy or about the idea georgia, amongst, others because it was really the foil for the so-called big lie that raffensperger and people were fighting when against that narrative. but this democracy going to be enough with the idea of looking back to january six? is that going to be enough, do you think. to get voters excited for biden in the southern state? >> i think that it's democracy and the economy and credible justice in policing reform. and the reproductive rights and you continue on and on and on. you, know when you're looking
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to run a campaign a lot of it is about the candidate but some of it is pure math and you look at your states where you have the right. i do coalition. work you look where you have the right demographic. the thing about georgia that i think people continue to forget this that it didn't happen overnight. there was a vision, mostly led by stacey abrams but they believe in black voters. but, someone in the democratic party often gets reprimanded about by black voters is to show up four days before the election. instead, four years, for ten years in georgia there are states like mississippi that have 36% black population and when you really think about the democratic party in mississippi, it is not that large. it is not like they have this huge investment, a state like alabama, we get a democratic senator doug jones from alabama and a special action. why? because a black voters. 25% of the voters, 25% of the
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black voters, population. so, if the party were ready to look at the math and see pockets where they could really turn out voters by small investments, because if you haven't been spoken to for many, years two minutes goes a long way. , and in an election cycle. i think that you can really see more in georgia, but it can't happen overnight. you have to do an investment, so, it has to be an immediate investment like joe biden showing up in georgia, going across the black belt us we often call it in the southern state. that's for a long term vision in the new democratic party. for >> the republicans, a new opportunity as, well or is it just an unattainable goal? >> absolutely. for republicans. and this is where dichotomy, where in some pockets there doing better with the havoc and voters, hispanic voters despite all the things that trump has said so turned off those voters. so brook public, and it's very high hurdles, and their self created hurdles. and i'll say that there's one thing we didn't talk about, we just elected an african american governor in maryland, westmore.
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well, tonight, italy's most wanted man is in custody after nearly 30 years in hiding. the mob boss, mateo massie know de niro was arrested at a private health captured during a raid carried out by more than 100 special agents. he has multiple convictions for murder, including the kidnapping and death of a
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12-year-old boy. whose body was dissolved in acid. he was also convicted in a shanxi, a for the assassination of two anti mafia prosecutors who were killed in separate targeted bombings in 1992. joining me now, cnn analyst and criminal defense attorney, joey jackson. joey, what story that's happening right now -- the idea that he had been given several life sentences, joey. even while in hiding firm mafia related crimes, the big question is, what happens now? >> yes, laura, good to be with you. so, this is 30 years in the making, right? so to say that this is hugely significant is indeed an understatement. to your question and the event that someone is arrested, right? what you go to as well, you look to the issues of proof. and, do they have dna? do they have witnesses? do they have surveillance here to what the point you raised earlier. he was convicted as we look at the picture there.
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and abstention, a number of times. , and so, to the extent that you're convicted of extension, what does that mean in english? it means everybody has a, right as you, know to participate in the trial to aid their lawyers and in their defense to assist to the child interest defenses. when you are not there, however, the government has an obligation under responsibility to proceed. and so, apparently, the government has proceeded. there are multiple life sentences that are white him. and so, the short answer to your question is that he will be in jail. and that is essentially what happens to serve out the life sentences that he has been tried and convicted on, although he was not present for those proceedings. >> such an important point about the idea being able to still be convicted, nonetheless. either not able to participate, you could be on the lam, on the, run in some respects. but, so many people are talking about him being kidnapped. officials, joe, we are talking about him being held in a secret location. and, i'm wondering, is this a concern? you have 100 people going to be
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able to take this meant to custody? is the concern his safety or his ability to lead? >> you know, i think that there are multiple concerns, obviously when you are as notorious as he has been, laura, involved in a family indeed, his brother having been convicted and serving time not rolling over on him and his sister we know about his father. so there are a number of things and they are related to people who might be looking for him in addition to, as you, know the safety of him in the safety of others and the safety and integrity of the entirety of the proceeding. you want to ensure that he is in a secret location. make no mistake about, it, the justices arrived and it has arrived. the wheels of justice often move. but they often move very slowly and though he's in a secret unsecured location, i think that location will ultimately be in a prison for a life sentence. >> and, joey, most of the time people wonder if someone's capture, they'll think oh, is there an option for a plea?
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will they be cooperating? is there some sort of bigger fish to fry, so to speak. sounds like he is really top of the food chain. but also, those convictions there is no incentive now for the prosecution to be able to try to coax. and there's already a conviction that's there and could they be trying to talk to him about how he was able to evade them for so long? does he have to answer anything? >> yes, you know, i just don't see that laura and he doesn't have to answer. i think the code, based upon who he is, based upon who is family, is based upon his dna i don't think that they will get anything at all. there's simply won't be any incentive. i think authorities are also very concerned about the people around him. you know there have been millions and millions of dollars that have been seized from his associates, from his friends. certainly, i know he still has other friends and associates who want to mount. so, authorities have to worry about that.
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but i just do not see him flipping, rolling, or telling them anything. i mean, this is a long time in the making. they had to essentially find him, laura, predicated upon knowing that he had this cancer. knowing that he needed to get treatment. it didn't even know what is facebook like. had very few clues, really much of a trail over the years. but i really don't see anything other than him not saying a word and ultimately him jim serving out his sentence which will be multiple life sentences. i mean it almost plays like a movie, just thinking about how this is all unfolded. where he was arrested at a private clinic known for private plastic surgery, or elective surgery. we are yet to know that he was actually receiving the terms of treatment. but this story unfold in due time. joey jackson, thank you for being. here and helping us unpack it all. >> thank you, laura. >> and, speaking of another while another injury in the nfl. this time impacting the tampa bay buccaneers and i'll give
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bad news tonight from the monday night football game, the dallas cowboys, and tampa bay buccaneers, the bucks, russell, gauge appeared to injure his neck in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. he is on the surface several minutes before being carted off the field. and the broadcast showed the gauge moving his lead when they were in administering care. this coming us to buffalo bills, damar hamlin, collapsed on the field in cardiac arrest. now, hamlin is making a remarkable recovery. cnn chief medical correspondent
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dr. sanjay gupta got a special look this weekend at what the nfl does before games to prepare for any number of medical emergencies. when buffalo bills safety, damar hamlin, when into cardiac arrest, the game stopped. but for the emergency response team, everything was just getting started. -- bring everybody, we need a doctor everybody. bring the medics, all of them out here. >> as read this all, is i'm going to explain on the remarkable chain of events that came together to save the more hamlin's life. >> so, this is actually the b a p for -- >> its start with this. >> so, what is the ap? what is that? >> it's for emergency action plan. >> and that takes place for
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every game? >> so, basically any time or any place that players are going to be active, there's going to be an emergency action plan. >> they're administering cpr. >> the ap was followed to a letter that night. in that moment, everyone knew what they needed to do, what how they needed to do it, had the equipment to do it and felt comfortable. >> dr. allen sales, chief medical officer of the nfl. he has given me a sideline view of the preparedness that goes into every game. and once you see this, you will probably never watch a game the same way again. >>. you may have missed this, a pop-up lieutenant. it is on every side. -- >> it's like a medical exam room. now we kind of made it a medical space, even though it's a busy stadium. it >> just so much busier to do things, or everybody just more, relaxed you don't have the, cameras you don't have the fans. >> for this. >> the injury review stream. >> so we can be down here on the side lands and we can see an injury video that they can
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cue up for us, put on the video, exactly what we need to see, we could ask them to run it back. we can, top and we could hear them there. >> the spotters booth. >> they are the eyes in the sky. >> welcome, welcome. >> so, this is good. this is another part of our game day medical preparation. and the real goal of this is to help spot any injuries on the field. we're trying to see the field from down. they're probably one of the most unique things in sports is the spotter can directly communicate down to the referee. these people can stop the game. >> so, we watch every play from probably minimal, four times. and then we'll go back and watch it again. , and, so you know, we just want to make sure that we don't miss anything. >> it's always about the right people, the right plan, and the right equipment. we have almost 30 medical professionals. and everyone has a job to do. >> eat our doctors, orthopedic surgeons, neurosurgeons, paramedics, x-ray techs and
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airway specialist like doctor justin deaton. . >> so this is the back that i carry. there's a number of things that we could use, the first thing is a video of the skull. we have a particle ultrasound machines that we could use. but we also have a ability to perform -- really have all the resources to perform here that i would have an emergency room. >> what's the biggest challenge of that versus being in an emergency room? >> well the biggest one is in the situation where you have a larger than average sides person that's laying flat on the ground and not able to be elevated to a certain level with extra equipment, plus, you know cameras and other people around. those are really the things that make it more difficult to manage. >> how does everybody know that you are the guy in charge? >> i wear a red hat on the sideline. but that signifies as the emergency physician, the airway physician, so that even the other team, knows when i come, out what my role. this >> every game comes with
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new lessons. for example, on six temper 26 when he stumbled after hit he was allowed back in the game. >> that won't happen again. >> you know we change the protocol earlier this year when you and i spoke to say that if we see something that looks like a -- they're also done so as the teams all warm up there is one final, crucial step. can we tell in the operating room we do something known as a timeout and everyone stops from. doing and we make sure that everyone is on the same page. this is the same sort of thing happening behind. it is called a 16 minute meeting and it happens 60 minutes before every game. a chance for all the medical professionals to make sure they know who each other are. and they make sure who is going to do what. whether there is some sort of crisis on the field. >> all right, so, let's start with introductions so that everybody is familiar with the medical staff that start the game. i'm kevin, head to -- what the jaguars.
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>> justin, -- >> so, justin is going to be on our 30 yard line, he stands just to our right and if a player goes down, obviously, he will know if it's orthopedic, or medicine, he'll step out onto the field, our call sign is in, so if you need him to come, out how come out with the necks now all of the important equipment, airway, differ by later, all the medications are all behind him with our paramedics and our sidelines. if a player needs to get taken off of the field, the ambulance is going to be in the tunnel to your right and if you need anything at all will be out there if any of you guys know this. otherwise, hope we have a safe, healthy, game good luck. >> keep in mind the medical team was able to get the damar hamlin within ten seconds. and speed really matters here. every additional minute that someone with cardiac arrest goes without cpr, mortality goes up by up to 10%. >> this is a process, it's in place within every single game, and we train in the off-season, and just like the players train
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and practice we do as well. so, i have tremendous confidence but you always want to see a game with no injuries. and you want everyone to, frankly, be bored on the medical side. that's a good game for us. >> laura with such a fascinating sideline look at just exactly how these medical teams prepare along with the athletic trainers just really remarkable, and keep in mind, you, know the game of football has changed a lot. you know what the nfl started the average lineman wait about 190 pounds, and, now it can be over 300 pounds, they can run a 40 yard dash in five seconds. if you get hit by somebody that that's, big at that speed, it could be like 1700 pounds of force i was told. literally like a ton of bricks falling on somebody. there's been a lot of real changes, laura, if the rule changes over the last 20 years. but you see what is necessary. medically, to try and keep up. and try and prevent these types of injuries. laura? >> that was fascinating,,
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i'm glad to talk to, particularly, about what is happening, jeff. first of all, we look at this, and the idea of people trying to cut, or someone trying to cut in a fence. who would try to do this. it is an innocent act because these animals, they are not exactly, the kind that ought to be running around in this particular area. >> absolutely, laura. by the way, the lighted to be speaking to you. and i'm happy to share this information with you. these are wild animals. and the powerful animals. first of all, i'm so grateful that the -- was able to recover this critically threatened species. this kind of leopards. a feline that normally you find living in the wildes of southeast asia. the dallas it was a world-class sue. we educate millions of people every year. and they do their very best to take care of their animals. which ambassadors for the species. this was an event that was the
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result of a crime. and was either done for two reasons. it wasn't done for theft, potential theft, or it was done for vandalism. >> you have worked for these leopards. not this particular one in the dallas, but the species. tell me a little bit about what these leopards are like? >> anyone, we think they can walk up to a cloud of leopard enclosure, cut that fence, and think that little critter is just going to walk into a korean cage. has a horrible surprise coming their way. i think you guys may have a photo of me working with the clouded leopard. this was had a reserve in southeast asia that needed medical treatment. we had to sedate this animal. they are that powerful. i know people keep saying that it has a way to 40 pounds, so that is a small dog. this is a creature that can climb up 200 foot tall tree, jumped down 100 feet. and dispatch there. they are incredibly powerful
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animals, with powerful teeth, and powerful cause. so it is someone who was truly misinformed. and there many examples of people there are number of examples of people have tried to steal animals from zoos. often or not, it ends up badly. both for the animal, and for the people. just a decade or two ago. two young men stole a cocoon viper from the bronx zoo. and then dip in the emergency room. so these are powerful creatures. >> they do that somebody would've done this, and what could've happened. obviously, the leopard was actually recaptured. thank goodness, it is now safely back and it's enclosed habitat. there was no injuries to others around. but that somebody would do this. you're right, the idea that they are either misinformed, or far more nefarious about what the market may have been. but they are trying to achieve. but also, it wasn't just a cloud leopard were finding outs. and also involved in enclosure for a breed of monkey named
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lingers. what are those animals like? and the idea that those did not get free, what are these creatures like as well? >> that's the last thing dallas needs, is like years running around. especially since most of the homes that are one story less, these are trees that primates that live in the rainforest. and the canopy, again, very powerful creatures. the last thing you want to do is tangle with the monkey pin wants nothing to do with you. you are going to be in a serious situation. so why are people doing this. those two things. one, it is either vandalism. it is someone who is doing this because they want to cause damage. or maybe they are trying to make the points because they misunderstand the important conservation work that in organizations like the dallas zoo does to protect these animals. educate them, and protect their habitat. recover the species. or maybe, it is someone who is trying to steal these animals, why? are they sitting there because
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i think it could be a pet? ironically, texas is one of the few places, in the united states, reconnect we have a large feline, and exotic animals, with a little less red tape than permits. but still, in most situations. you have to have a lot of permits, to the usda, the u.s. fish and wildlife service, state and federal, even have these animals, we have access to them. organizations like zoos. so, the black market trade for wildlife, laura, is about a 50 billion dollar a year industry. but that is no easy task. you just don't steal a leopard, and put it on craigslist. it is a hard journey to try and sell one of these creatures. so i think it was someone who set them up, set themselves up for a task that, literally, went awry. and, hopefully, they've abandon their efforts to try to steal these animals. and think twice. and this is a criminal case, it could've been a lot worse.
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someone could've been injured. >> and others, as well. the idea of the unfamiliarity of these animals living outside of unknown habitats. and fending for their lives as well. you never know what could've happened. really important talk to, jeff, so about the idea of the spectrum of what someone might do this. but you're right, criminal investigation underway. i'll ever done this will be held to account. thank you so much. >> and i'm so thankful they're back in the dallas. >> very important, thank you so much. jeff gordon, everyone else, thank you all for watching. our coverage, continues. we're investing for our clientss in the projects that power our economy. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.
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