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stepped back from his royal duties in 2020, he and his wife meghan the duchess of sussex certainly have constellation a spotlight. just last month they appeared in a six part netflix documentary about their relationship and decision to leave the boil behind. but now 38-year-old prince harry is telling his own story in his new memoir spare. a nod to his backup role in the line of succession. book is a starting break with royal protocol. it's deeply personal, it's an account of prince harry's decades long struggle with grief after the death of death of his mother, princess diana. revealing look at the fracture relationship with his father, king charles, and his stepmother, the queen consort, camilla, and his brother prince william. the heir to his spare. >> you write about a contention that you had with him in 2021. he said, i looked at willie, really looked at him for the first time since we were boys. i took it all. in his familiar scowl, which it always been as default in dealings with me.

his alarming boldness, more advanced than my own. his famous resemblance to mommy, which was fading with time, with age. it's pretty cutting? >> i don't see that's cutting it all. my brother and i we love each other. i love him deeply. there's been a lot of pain between the two of us. especially the last six years. nine of anything i've written, anything i've included. it is ever intended to hurt my family. but it does give a full picture of the situation as we were growing up. and also, squash is this idea that somehow my wife was the one that destroyed the relationship between these two brothers. >> so many people around the world watched you in your brother grow up. and feel like you two were inseparable, and yet in reading lubbock you've lived separate lives, from the time your mom died? >> even when you are in the same school, in high school? >> sibling rivalry.

>> your brother told you pretend we don't know each other. >> and at the time, it hurt. i couldn't make sense of it. what do you mean, or at the same school. i haven't seen you for ages. now we get to hang out with each other and he's, like, no -- i take that personally. but, yes you hit the nail on the head. we had a very similar traumatic experience. and then we dealt with that two very different ways. >> william try to talk to you occasionally by your mom. but as a child, you could not respond? >> for me, it was never a case of i don't want to talk about it with you, i just don't know how to talk about it, i never ever thought that maybe talking about it with my brother with anybody else at that point, would be therapeutic. >> in august 1997, harry and william were vacationing in scotland with their father. harry was 12 and william was 50. >> they were asleep at balmoral

castle on august 31st, when harry was awakened by his father, who told him that his mother had been in a car crash in paris. in the bookie right, he says they tried darling boy, i'm afraid she didn't make a. these phrases or remain in my mind like darts on board. if you cry? >> no. never chenille tear, i was in shock. 12 years old, and 7:30 in the morning, early, my father comes in and sets on the bad, and tells you there's been an accident. i couldn't believe. >> you write in the book, that pod and hug me, he wasn't ready to show a motion under normal circumstances. but his hand fell once more on my knee and said, it will be okay. but after that, nothing was okay. for a long time. >> nothing was okay. >> harry says that is memories

of the next few days or fragment ahead. but he does remember this, greeting mourners outside kensington palace in london, the day before his mother's funeral. >> and you see those videos now, what do you think? >> i think it's bizarre. because i see william and me smiling. i remember the guilt. that i felt. >> guilt about? >> guilt that the people we are meeting, we're showing more motion than we were shown. maybe more motion than we've been felt. >> they were crying, but you? weren't >> there was a lot of tears. i talk about how wet people's hands are, i can understand it. >> their hands were wet from wiping their own tears away. >> i do remember one of the strangest parts to. it was taking flowers from people. and then placing those flowers with the rest of them. as, if i was some sort of middle person for their grief. and that stood out for me. >> the funeral, on a cold september morning, was watched by as many to have billion people around the world.

perhaps the most indelible image, prince harry and his brother walking behind their mother's casket on its way to west minister of the. >> what do you remember about that lock? >>, how quiet it was. i'm never the occasional whale, screaming of someone. and i'm a horse who lives on the road. the bridal's of the horses, the gun carriage, the wheels. the occasional gravel stone under the shoe. but, mainly the silence. >> after the service, princess diana's body was brought for burial tour families ancestral estate, al thorpe. >> once my mothers -- went into the ground, that was the first time that i cried. there was never another -- >> you didn't cry about it? you didn't believe she was dad? >> for a long time. i just refused to accept that she was gone. part, she never do this to us. but part, maybe this is all part of the plan. >> you really believe that maybe she had just decided to disappear for a? time >> for a time, and she'd call

us and we come join or. >> how long did you believe that? >> years. many, many. years -- yet similar thoughts. >> you write in the book, you cite often say to myself first thing in the morning, maybe this is the day. maybe this is the day that she is going to reappear. >> i had hope. i have huge amounts of hope. >> he held on to that hope into adulthood. when harry was 20, he asked to see the police report about the crash that killed his mother, her boyfriend jody alpha ad, and their driver henry paul, while there are being pursued by paparazzi in a paris tunnel. >> the final contained photographs of the crash, why did you want to see them? >> mainly proof, proof that she was in the car, proof that she was injured, and proof that the paparazzi chase turn to the

tunnel where the ones that were taking photographs of her lying half dead on the back seat of a car. >> you're right, i hadn't been aware before this moment, talking about looking at the pictures of the prophet proceed, but the last thing that money saw on this earth was a flash. >> yeah. >> that's what you saw the pictures? >> while they were pictures showed the reflection of a group effect while governors taking photographs of the window and the reflection of the window was them. >> the he only saw some of the crash photos. his private secretary and advisor, dissuaded him from looking at the rest. >> i saw was the back of my mom's head. slumped on the back seat. there are other more gruesome photographs but, i'll be totally ungrateful for him for denying me the ability to inflict pain on myself by seeing that. because that's the kind of stuff that sticks in your mind forever. >> harry says, he believed his mother might still be alive

until he was 23. and visited paris for the first time. >> you told your driver, i want to go to the tunnel when my mom died? >> i wanted to see whether was possible driving at the speed that henry paul was driving, that you could lose control of a car. and plowing to a pillar. killing almost everyone in the car. i needed to take this journey, i needed to ride the same route, the same tunnel, the same speed. >> your mother was gone. >> william and i had already been told the event was like a bicycle chain. if you remove one of those chains, the unresolved not happened. and the paparazzi chasing was part of that. but yeah, everybody got away with a. >> harry right, cnn's brother was satisfied with the results of a 2006 investigation. by london's metropolitan police. concluding that diana's driver, henry paul, had been drinking. and the crash was a quote, tragic accident. >> why am i considered reopening the inquest. because there was so many gap, so many

holes in it. it just in that up, didn't make sense. >> would you still like to do that? >> i don't even know if it's an option now. but no, i think, what i like to do that now. that's a of a question, anderson. >> do you feel like you have the answers that you need to have? about what happened to your? mom >> truth be known, no. i don't think i. do i don't think my brother does either. i know that the world does. do i need any more than i already know? now. i don't think it would change much. >> harry now says that it wasn't mentally served in combat with the british army, in afghanistan, that he finally found purpose and a sense of normalcy. >> my military career, saved me. in many regards. >> out? so >> it got me out of the spotlight. from the uk press. i

was able to focus on a purpose, larger than myself, to be wearing the same uniform as everyone. else to feel normal for the first time in my life. and accomplish some of the biggest challenges i've ever had, -- you only get a pass of being a. parents >> the apache doesn't give a crap who you are. >> there's no plans autopilot but a new contrasts and takes you away. >> i was a really good candidate for the military, a young man in my twenties, and suffering from shock, that i was now in the fun seat of the apology. shooting it, flying it -- and being there, to save and help anybody that was on the ground with the radio, screaming, we need support, we need air support that was my calling. i felt feeling from that. >> in the multitasking, the brain work of that, that felt good to you? >> it filled with i was turning pain into purpose. i didn't have the awareness at the time, but i was living my life in adrenaline. and that was the

case from h 12 for the moment i was talking told my mom died. >> you said war didn't begin in afghanistan, it started in august 1990? seven >> the war for me, unknowingly, was a mom died. >> refined? >> myself. >> i had a huge amount of frustration, and blame towards the british press for their part in it. >> even at 12, that yeah you are feeling that towards the british press? >> it was obvious to us as kids. that the british press was part in our mother's misery. and i had a lot of anger inside of me. that, luckily i never expressed to anybody but i was also drinking heavily. because i wanted to numb of the feeling, i wanted to distract myself from whatever i was thinking. and i resorted to drugs as well. >> harry admits he smoked pot and used cocaine. he writes in

his late twenties, he felt hopeless and lost. >> there was a weight on my chest, that i felt for so many years. i was never able to cry, so i was constantly trying to find a way to cry. but even sitting on my sofa, i'm going over as many memories as i can muster up about my mom. and sometimes, i watch videos online. >> of your? mom >> of my mom. >> hoping to cry? and you couldn't? >> i couldn't. >> he sought help from a therapist for the first time seven years ago, and reveals that he's also tried more experimental treatments. >> you write in the book about second alex. i alaska, psilocybin, mushrooms? >> i would never recommend right people, if you are suffering from a huge amount of loss, grief, or trauma. then these things have a way of working as a medicine. >> they showed you something, look at the issue? >> for me, they cleared the

windscreen, windshield. the misery have lost, they cleared away the ike idea i had my had that my mother, or that i needed to cry to prove to my mother got a mr.. when in, fact what she got was for me to be happy. we'll continue part two of my interview shortly, but first joining us now is max foster, kate williams, and -- noted author and playwright of former deputy chair of the british museum. max, let's start with you. this is a two part interview that we did with 60 minutes. one of the reasons we wanted to start with this, with the focus on princess diana, and the experience of her death for harry. isn't reading the book, and its foreign 60 pages, it's yes, people are gonna be paying close attention to all the revelations, and the inside information that he's giving out. that break protocol with the royal family, information he's telling about the royal family that will show shortly. but for me, this is such a memoir about loss, about grief, and about the devastating

impact of a childhood trauma. the death of his mom, which played out obviously on at the little scale. it's extraordinary how, the life that he lived, is so different, his perception of himself, his perception of his life is so different than -- the world's perception of what is life must of been like growing up. i find that dichotomy interesting. >> i swear, we'll connect with harry, isn't it. that image of him walking behind the coffin. and outer sympathy you have for that young boy, and how he was so deeply affected, and as you explore, it's a historic part of the interview, it was a global event. defining for the uk in modern history, and you see him behind the coffin and you try to get a sense of what that's like, and you've given

that, you've shown, brought that out, it's incredibly powerful, these images are seared on the world's consciousness. and then, you explore this part of, he didn't, he wondered if she was still alive. he didn't really believe that she was dead and police saw the photos. and then he sees the paparazzi around the body. this is utterly defining as you explore later on in the interview, how from that moment onwards, he's at war really with the media. and it's not just a photographers, it's the news desk, that commission and by those photographers. >> kate, i'm wondering what you thought about of the side of harry, how much was new to you, does it inform at all the way, what some of what's happening now? is >>, yes anderson. it was

heartbreaking to hear him talk about his mother's death. i was so moved, i felt guilty because i couldn't cry. i remember being out there with the crowd, everyone was weeping, and th e

-- was true. but it also probably meant it as a joke. but that aaron spare dynamic, it pops up throughout the book. and throughout the relationship between prince william and prince harry we all have this idea that, if you see a lot of the coverage in the british tabloids. since the whole rift, the argument is that meghan was the cause of that. and i don't know if that's true, but what prince harry saying in his book, and he documents this, it's from the time that diana died, they lived two very separate lives. and dealt with that grief in separate ways. it's like they were on separate paths, and part of that is the heir and spare dynamic. >> what charles said, there is the brutal reality isn't. it's a monarchy. it's built on a hierarchy. and harry spoke to

you about that. and by any definition, there is more senior people in the hierarchy. if you don't like the hierarchy, -- and harry of course says, he believes in monarchy. i think that's the reality, i think what william side would say, is that they did everything they could to make harry not feel like a spare. they elevated him, -- the royal foundation where they work together initially harry and william. and that -- for all their charities. and i think william felt that he was elevated. would be a traditional role for a spare. a spare in the past would just be visible and broaden if they're needed. i think harry really struggled with that -- he's been made to feel like a spare. and ultimately, when he found meghan, she wasn't happy with the situation. either they came together and realize they couldn't do this.

>> kate, one of the things that harry talks about. is that his being dubbed, despair in his role as the spare. he felt he was more vulnerable to the british press than others in the royal family. he was essentially, expendable. and that particularly comes into play when he's making the argument that other members of the royal family as we'll see in the next part of the interview. in particular, the queen concert. camilla he set was -- throwing under the bus. he was one of the bodies left in the street. and she had a relationship with the british media. >> yes, i think that's exactly what harry saying. harry feels he was the scapegoat. that many of the royals used him to deflect from their own problems, their own insecurities, -- and particularly, just as you say, he talks about camilla, he said she was seen as a villain, to

rehabilitate her image, the way she did this particularly was by pushing forward a negative stories about harry. as the spare. he's expendable, and i thought you brought this out so hugely in the interview. the grief he suffered, the isolation he suffered, but also as the spare, the title of the block. that very structure i think even though he says he supports the monarchy, he doesn't blame it for so much of what went wrong. we have a situation with one child gets everything, and all the attention, and the next child not only gets nothing, but also gets sold out to the brass. and that's why he was so unhappy, and that's why he felt he had to. leave i think it really raises questions about the structure of monarchy, spare and heir, the european rules don't do it. the younger ones have their job, we don't expect it to be a backup world, maybe that's the way we need to go.

it's not humane the way that it is in present. >> we'll take a short break, i'll have more with bonnie and kate. stay with us. as part of my interview didn't see last night, i asked carrie about why you made no mention of the most headline making comment, his wife kate the oprah winfrey well edging a loyal family were have expressed concern about what the skin tone other color -- also i, had part two of the interview, harry tells me why he called camilla, dangerous. >> i want to camilla to be happy, maybe should be less dangerous if she was happy. how is she dangerous? >> because of the need for her to rehabilitate her image. >> that made her dangerous? >> that made her dangerous because of the connection she was forging within the british press. press. press. press. for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need! whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty liberty♪ ♪liberty♪

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memoir spares anything but spare. it's unflattering portrayal of the royal family, his stepmother camilla the queen concert. she married prince charles and 2005. though the two had been romantically involved for decades. when princess diana famously referred to camilla as the third person in our marriage. the british tabloid ran with it. and prince harry's never forgotten. >> she was the villain. she was the third person in the marriage. she needed to rehabilitate her image. >> you in your brother, both directly asked your dad not to marry camilla? >> yes. >> why?? >> we didn't think it was necessary. we thought that it was gonna cause more harm than good. and that if he was now with his person, that surely that's enough, why go that far when you don't necessarily need to? we wanted him to be happy. we saw how happy he was with. her at the, time -- >> you wrote she started campaigning in the british press, to pave the way for a marriage, you wrote, i even wanted camilla to be happy.

maybe should be less dangerous if she was happy? >> how is she dangerous? >> because of the need for her to rehabilitate rub it -- that >> made her dangerous? >> it made are dangerous because of the connection she was forging within the british press. that was open willingness on both sides to trade information. and with a family built on hierarchy, i'm with her on the way to being clean concert, those people or bodies left in the street. >> harry says over the years, he was one of those bodies. he accuses camila and his father at times of using him or william to get better tabloid coverage for themselves. prince harry writes, camilla quote, sacrifice me on her personal pr alter. >> if you are led to believe, as a member of the family, that being on the front page, having positive headlines, positive stories are in about, you is going to improve your reputation. or increase the chances of you being accepted as a monarch by the british public. that's what you're gonna do. >> in his book, harry writes the when he introduced meghan

markle to his family, in 2016, his father initially took a liking to her. but william, was skeptical. disdainfully referring to meghan, as an american actress. though harry doesn't specify who, he says other members of the royal family were uneasy as well. >> right from the beginning, before i had a chance to get to know or, and the uk press jumped on that. and here we are. >> what was that based on? that distrust? >> the fact that she was american, an actress, divorced, black, biracial with a back mother, those are just four of the typical stereotypes that become a feeding frenzy for the british press. >> but all those things within the family were also sources of mistrust? >> yes, my family read the tabloids. it's laid out a

breakfast when everybody comes together. whether you walk around saying you believe it or not, it's still leaving an imprint in your mind. so, if you have that judgment based on a stereotype, right at the beginning it's very, very hard to get over that. and a large part of it for the family, but also for the british press and numerous other people were like, he's changed. she must be a witch. he's changed. as opposed to, yeah, i did change, and i'm really glad i changed. because rather than getting drunk, falling out of clubs, taking drugs, i've now found the love of my life, and i now have the opportunity to start a family weather. >> soon after the relationship became public, harry insisted on putting out a statement.

condemning some of the tabloid coverage of meghan, and what he called quote, the racial undertones of comment pieces. >> you write that your dad and brother william were furious with you for doing that, why? >> they felt as though, it made them look bad. they felt as though they didn't have a chance are able to do that for their partners. what meghan had to go through a similar in some parts to what kate and camilla went through. very different circumstances, but then you add in the race element. which was what the price, british press jumped on straightaway. it's

credibly naive, i had no idea the british press was so --, i was probably bigoted. >> you think you are bigoted before the relationship of meghan? >> i don't know. put it this, way i didn't see what i now see. >> they were married in may 2018, and a ceremony that seemed to promise a more modern an inclusive royal family. and given the titles, the duke and duchess of sussex. but behind the scene, according to harry williams mistrust of meghan only worsened. >> did you ever try to meet with william and kate to defuse the tension? >> yeah. >> how did that meeting go? >> not particularly well. >> in early 2019, harry writes that the rancor between william and him exploded. at harry's cottage on the grounds of kensington palace. >> your arguments with your brother, became physical?

>> it was a buildup of frustration i think on his part. it was at a time where he was being told, certain things by people within his office. and at the same time he was consuming the loss of the -- above the story. and he had a few issues, which were based not on reality, and i was defending my wife, and he was coming for my wife, she wasn't there at the time. i threw the things he was saying, i was defending myself, and we move from one room into the kitchen, and his frustrations wer e growing, and growing. he was shouting at me, how shouting back at him, it wasn't nice, it wasn't pleasant at all. and he snap. and he pushed me to the floor. >> in october? >> he knocked me, over i landed on a dog bowl, i cut my back and i know about at the time. but, yeah he apologized afterwards. it was a pretty nasty experience. but -- >> he asked me not to tell me

again? >> yeah. and i wouldn't have done it. identical she saw on my back, she's like what's that. she didn't -- looked at me and was like, bleep. i never seen it. >> megan has said constant criticism pressure led to her in the winter of 2019, to contemplate suicide. >> nothing that terrified me the most is history repeating itself. >> you really feared that your wife, meghan, -- i feared a lot that the end result, the fact that i lost my mom when i was 12 years old. could easily happen again to my wife. >> in january 2020, prince harry and meghan announced they intended to in their words, step back as senior members of the royal family. they moved to california three months later. then there was the headline grabbing interview with oprah winfrey, and a deal with netflix worth a reported 100 million dollars. critics say, the duke and duchess are cashing in on their royal titles, while they still can. >> why not renounce your titles as duke and duchess? >> what difference with that make? >> one of the criticisms that you perceived, is that okay, you want to move to california, you want to step back from an institutional role. why be so public, why reveal conversations you've had with your father, or with your brother, you say you try to do this privately? >> every single time i try doing it privately. there been briefings, leakings, plantings of stories against me in my wife. the family motto is, never explain, it's just a motto. and it doesn't really hold -- >> there's a lot of complaining and explaining in private being

done through leaks. >> through leaks. >> prince harry continues to claim that he would never leak -- >> so, now. trying to speak a language that perhaps they understand. i will sit here, and speak truth to you, with the words to come out of my mouth. rather than using someone else, an unnamed source to feed in lies or narratives to a tabloid media. that literally radicalizes its readers. to then potentially cause harm to my family. my wife and my kids. >> last month the british tabloid the sun published a vicious column about meghan. written by a tvo. >> he said i hate, or a night i'm able to -- grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day -- naked through the streets at a town in britain. while the crowds chant, shame, and throw lots of extra meant at her. >> did that surprise you? >> it surprised me, no, because is it shocking, yes. thank you

for approving our point. >> has there been any response from the palace? >> no, and there comes a point when silence is betrayal. >> a lot to talk about, i'm joined now by mocks oster, bonnie, greer--'s issues to talk about, the issue of camilo, which is probably one of the big allegations made in this book. but bonnie, i also want to bring up something that wasn't in included in the 60 minutes interview, though it took part in the interview. it was played on cbs mornings, this morning. i asked terry about a comment that meghan, the duchess of sussex, made to oprah winfrey and that headline making interview when they first came to the united states. and she had said, that a member of the family, of harry's family had expressed concern or conversations about the potential skin color of their first child. i want to play, they don't go any further in that interview, didn't go any further, it became huge story. i want to play, i asked terry about it. >> in your interview with oprah, probably one of the most explosive claims, came from megan which was that a member of the royal family wondered how dark your child's skin would be. that wasn't brought up in netflix, or in the book. why? >> the way the british press

reacted to that, was fairly typical. there was like a hunt for the royal -- and neither of us believe that that comment, or that experience, or that opinion was based in racism. unconscious bias, yes. but i think that you speak to the majority, maybe not all, but the majority of mixed race couples around the world. that the light side of the family, what wonder whether talking openly about it, or amongst themselves with the kids are gonna look like. the key word was concerned. as opposed to curiosity. but the way that the british press, what they turned it into, was not what it was. >> but you standby that that happened, but you didn't feel the need -- >> when else did i say at the end, oprah interview. >> that you would not discuss it further. >> exactly. >> bonnie, i'm wondering of how he framed that, obviously it got a huge publicity at the time. there was no mention and netflix, no mention in his book. >>, while you know, i saw it. and you remember oprah's reaction was, what. and the whole world stopped. and meghan look like she was about to cry. so, yeah, we need to take that as very serious. and maybe even deliberate, and harry kind of implies that maybe it wasn't, so how do you take this. the other thing i wanted to say, i didn't get a chance to say about spare, anderson, there's no way that a person who's royal on one side, and high mobility on the other would be surprised about being called a spare. the second son, is a norm and aristocratic circle, -- his great grandfather was a

second son. they were spares. so, harry would've known about the spare, he was going to school the bunches spares. the issue is i think that there was no space for this man to be who he is. and this particular family. and that's the crisis. and we can see that when he's walking behind his mother's coffin. on that day. that's a crisis. and it's a crisis not just for hari, it's a crisis for the british people. they have to make some decisions about this family. frankly, i've lived here a long time. half my life. and every decade, there's something about the royal family that's going on. every decade. i think the british people are gonna have to make a decision about that. is because the head of the family, is a constitutional head of state. his eldest, is the constitutional, and his eldest's constitutional. everybody else is the spare. so, we need to actually, this has to be in the hands of the british people. to actually understand what's going on here. and deal with. it because

this can't keep going. on >>, max's talking about his relationship with the queen concert, camilla, it's a release some of it in the book. some of his toughest perspective. it is about her? >> yeah, for me that was seismic, and actually it's interesting through that story, and part of the interview harry let's off charles quite lightly there. he's actually done throughout the whole of this book, the reality is over the last 20 years or so, charles has driven this effort to rehabilitate camilla's image. and harry, in that interview, in the book is literally blowtorch in that. saying, she's dangerous. and that she's looking stories. and that was undermining other members of the royal family. but charles, he's part of that as well, he has been part of, that there's no way she could've gone through that process with the media -- >> i should point out, harry does hint at that. talks about that. his perspective on it in the book. there's more detail of it in the book. he talks about one incident, when harry was in high school, and there

were all these stories about his drug use. harry was smoking pot, he says, but many of the details were not true. there'd be reporting, and he believes a decision was made by -- that were employed by his father and by camilla. essentially, if not greenlight those stories, not try to squash them or in some way, try to minimize that. because they were convinced, or told by their spin doctor, that those stories would make prince charles look better, heat suddenly go from being the villain in the story, had been terrible to his former wife, to being the beleaguered dad with a drug that old son. >> yeah, the reality is they protect the more senior members of the family. not necessarily a campaign against junior members. but, the crying incident. that's gone into folklore. who made who cry. was it meghan or kate. over the bridesmaid dress before the wedding. it's quite defining. none of us know who made who cry. the story in the papers, was that meghan made kate cry. and meghan and harry are pretty -- saying, it wasn't that way. around it was the other way around. the palace one address. that because it would be -- and that sort of thing that's frustrates harry. but my experience was that whatever i worked with william side of the

palace. they would often, work with the success -- the racism, the sexism in the british tabloid media. they were trying to stick up for them. but i didn't, i wasn't part -- behind palace walls. and clearly, harry had the inside track, and he felt they were always working against. time >> everyone stick around, more on me interview with prince harry when we come back including what happened when eli's grandmother queen elizabeth -- >> i asked my brother, how are you and keep getting up. they're in a couple hours later, all of the family members that live within the windsor area, we're jumping on a plane together. a plane with 12 or 14 seats. >> you weren't invited on that plane?

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>> more now on my interview with harry, it aired last night on cbs this 60 minutes. we pick up the conversation with the death of the queen, already finds himself this brother this time behind his grandmother's castle. >> perry's been back in the united kingdom, he was in

london last september for charity events when the palace announced his grandmother the queen, was under medical supervision at balmoral castle in scotland. >> i asked my brother, i said what are your parents how you can keep getting up there? and then a couple hours later, yeah, all of the family members that live within the windsor area, we're jumping on a plane together. a plane with 12, 14, 16 seats. >> you weren't invited on that? plane >> not invited. >> by the time harry got to balmoral on his own. the queen was dead. >> i walked into the whole, my aunt was there to greet me. she asked me if i wanted to see her. i thought, for five seconds thinking is this a good idea, and i said, you know what you could do this. you need to say goodbye. so, i went upstairs, took my jacket off. and spend some time with her alone. >> where was she?

>> she was in her bedroom. i was really happy for her, because she finish life, she completed life. and her husband was waiting for her, the two of them were buried together. >> as they had 25 years earlier, harry and william found themselves walking together, but a part, this time behind their grandmother's casket. >> do you speak to william now? do you? taxed >> currently, no. but i look forward to, i look forward to as being able to find peace. >> how long has it been since you? spoke >> a while. >> do you speak to your dad. >> we haven't spoken for quite awhile. no, not recently. >> can you see a day when you'd return as a full-time member of

the royal family? >> no. i can't see that happening. >> and the book you call this a full scale rupture, cannot be healed? >> gas. the board is very much in their court, but meghan and i've continue to say that we all openly apologize for anything that we did wrong. but every time we ask that question, no one's telling us. the specifics or anything. it needs to be a constructive conversation. one that can happen in private. that doesn't get leaked. >> i'm assuming they would say, how can we trust you. how do we know that you're not gonna reveal whatever conversations we have an interview somewhere? >> this all started, what briefing, daily, against my wife. with lies to the point of where my wife and i had to run away from my country. >> it's hard i think for anybody to imagine the family dynamic. that's so game of thrones,

without dragons. >> i don't watch game of thrones, but there is definitely dragons. and that's -- which is the british press. >>, so ultimately without the british press as part of this. we would probably still be a structural family. but at the heart of, that there's a family without question. and i really look forward to having that family element back. i look forward to having a relationship, i look forward to having raised my brother and father, and other members of my. family >> you want? that >> it's all i've ever asked for. >> 60 minutes reached out to buckingham palace for comment, it's represented the man at that before considering responding. that 60-minute provide them with a report prior to airing

it last night. which is something the broadcast never does. back now with max, kate, and bonnie. so, kate, obviously the royal family would like to avoid a public-for-tat with prince harry. they have not responded, i assume they probably won't. given that this is the worst in terms of the attention, and the amount of coverage, and revelations to come. what happens now? >> anderson, they've said they're not going to respond, they're going to stay --

and it's interesting, isn't, at that harry was saying that never explain, never complain was just a motto. and as you say, there's an awful lot of complaining, explaining behind the scenes. so they're gonna say anything officially but we already had sources briefing in the newspaper that they're devastated that william is angry, that there won't be a -- role for harry in the coronation. there's sources that harry will say comes from buckingham palace itself. the sources are anonymous sources of briefing. at the moment, it looks very

much as though there can't be a reconciliation. there's a big distance between, them harry said we haven't spoken for a while, he said there's dragons in the family, the press he says that it actually also that the press wanted them to stay apart. you'd be terrified by a peace between them, so there is this huge investment to keep them apart. and harry sees that to continue. i don't see a happy folly reconciliation anytime soon. i certainly think that harry feels as though he's been damaged so much already. that this is not burning bridges, it's honesty. and he's telling his truth. >> bonnie, what do you think happens now? >> well, this is the story of a human being caught in a

machine. the royal family asked kate and max have -- is a machine. it's grinding alone, and harry's says halt. it's halted, but he's gonna try to struggle. if there's a coronation in may, that will be fascinating. but harry's telling a story that needs to be told. his mother started a, but he's gonna finish a. so, in that sense, spare and your interview with him is very, very important because we're getting all look at the vicious nasty tabloids, which americans, we don't have an equivalent of that anywhere in the united states. there is no equivalent. he's, right about how meghan was labeled, which was appalling. this guy stopping the machine. i hope he does. i hope the british people, in this great country, also began to look at this machine. because it's not during, i don't think it's doing the country any good. even though my taxi driver said, he won of the royal family to stay, because of continuity. >> max, it's interesting the palace isn't responding publicly. and yet, they're briefing as kate said, i assume privately and offering up people who will say things that they want to be sad. >> i haven't had that. there's been a bit of it in the papers, i'm not sure where it's coming from, it's very clear decision not to say anything here. to allow harry to have his say, to get it all out. or perhaps to rise above it, i don't really know. i'm a bit more hopeful than the other two. only because things are so bad, they can't get anywhere else. he's broken the cardinal rule, -- the really private moments he's exposed. moments that philip's funeral, the queen's funeral, you wouldn't talk about this part of the family.

he feels he has to do. that it's so bad, it can only get better. in the future, they may look at this and say, it's all out there now. we might as well try to fix things. i don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon, hopeful better. >> he said that nhehe doesn full but ob need to be a conversat b>>a thehe >> b kateems i appre wicnn tonight is next right after a short break. % i'm a vegas hotel. i know what you're thinking - it's cool, i don't want anything too serious either. just a fun, spontaneous thing. i'm looking for someone who will let loose. dress up a little. see a show. order the steak and the lobster.

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