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an indiana university student stabbed on a bus because she is asian. that is according to the suspect who told investigators, quote, it would be one less person to blow up the can country. new cnn reporting this morning, other locations connected to president biden may be searched as more classified documents have been found at his home and office. >> the terrifying near miss. two planes nearly colliding at jfk airport after a wrong turn. in moments we're taking you live inside a flight simulator to show how this happened. and did 45-year-old tom brady just play his last game in the nfl? what last night's loss means for his future. also this -- >> extra point is pushed wide right. trying to stop the run. easy touchdown. the extra point is missed again. and now he misses again. he missed three tonight.
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and he has done it again. >> it took five tries. everyone has a bad day. "cnn this morning" starts right now. everyone has a bad day. we hope yours is going well so far. we're going to begin with solomon pena, he was angry he lost the election last fall and claimed that the vote was rigged. now he is in police custody in connection with orchestrating four shootings at homes of local democratic officials in new mexico. no one was injured in any of the shootings that happened in albuquerque. police say that pena was the mastermind and allegedly conspired and paid four others to carry out the attacks. >> the evidence that we have is not only firearm, but it is also from cell phones and electronic
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records, surveillance video, and multiple witnesses inside and outside of this conspiracy that have helped us weave together what occurred. on the last shooting, we now have evidence too that pena himself went on this shooting, and actually pulled the trigger on at least one of the firearms that was used. >> this particular shooting took place at a state senator linda lopez's home. the gun pena was using malfunctioned, but authorities say another shooter at the scene shot a dozen rounds. pena, an election denier, visited three of the targets unannounced in november after he lost his election for state house. later that month he tweeted in support of former president donald trump declaring that he never conceded his race, even though he lost in a landslide 48 points behind his opponent. here is albuquerque's mayor. >> this type of radicalism is a threat to our nation and it has made its way to our doorstep, right here in albuquerque, new mexico. but i know here we are going to push back and we will not allow
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this to cross the threshold. fundamentally at the end of the day, this was about a right wing radical, an election denier who was arrested today, and someone who did the worst imaginable thing you can do when you have a political disagreement, which is turn that to violence. that should never be the case. >> pena's first target was adrian balboa who said she discovered the gunshots at her home on december 4th after returning from christmas shopping. she spoke with "cnn this morning" moments ago. >> when politicians at our highest level of government continue to make threats and violence a regular part of public discourse, it has real impacts on our democracy and our real lives. shots came through my home, just where hours before i had been playing with my granddaughter. it has been painful to be a brand-new grandma and my daughter does such a great job bringing her over and for the
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last month and a half hasn't because of this. >> those comments coming as, of course, you know what is happening at the white house this morning. they're still dealing with questions about classified documents. you saw the developments happening over the weekend. the documents in president biden's possession as house republicans are demanding to know does he have more documents at other locations? so far his team has searched his two private homes this delaware, his office at a think tank in washington but now multiple sources are telling cnn that additional searches could happen at other properties linked to the president. the white house has been hobbled by unforced errors. mj lee is live at the us who. you and our colleague kevin liptak have been doing some reporting on behind the scenes at president biden's frustration at how this is all being handled. >> reporter: yeah, kaitlan. as the story consumed the white house over the last week, we are learning that president biden himself has grown frustrated by what he sees as a story that has overshadowed what had been a
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positive streak for the administration and meanwhile for white house aides who for many of whom remember didn't even know about the story until a week ago, there is a mood of quiet resignation, that there is it is what it is mentality as they too wait to see if more classified documents could surface and what has been striking in reporting this story over the last week is how even some of the president's closest allies have wondered out loud why the white house hasn't been more forth coming and sooner. for example, i spoke with senator doug jones, a close ally of the president, he was a top contender to be his attorney general. he told me that the white house had made some unforced errors. he said once you make a statement, once you have the facts, you have to be full and complete, they weren't full and complete, gosh, come on, y'all, have to do a better job when things like this happen, that's exactly what i would say. of course, he used a different word as you can see there. jones did tell me, however, he does think that the lawyers did handle everything appropriately, at least by going directly to
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the national archives once they did find that first batch of classified documents. >> and mj, one question republicans this is who could have been around the documents at these locations. one thing raised over the weekend where republicans were asking the white house if there was some kind of visitor log that they had at these private residences and the white house responded, what did they say? >> reporter: they said the visitors logs simply don't exist. that was the response we got from the white house counsel's office. the u.s. secret service has also said, look, a president's private residence remains private, so there are no visitor logs. i think in general what we're seeing as sort of a theory of the case from the white house is that they do not think that public disclosure of any information while this investigation is ongoing is productive. they really just don't want to interfere. i think we're seeing that coming from everyone from the president on down. he spoke at this mlk day breakfast yesterday. when he spoke privately with reverend al sharpton, i spoke with him yesterday, he said that
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he didn't once bring up the classified documents issue, and when he did bring up house republicans to sharpton, he said it wasn't to talk about the investigations that they're promising, but to talk about the fact that he wants to reach out to republicans to talk about an issue like voting rights. so, again, everyone from the president on down really reticent to discuss this issue in public. >> yeah. they say they're doing that as the investigation is ongoing. mj lee, thank you for that update. en indiana woman charged in the stabbing attack on an asian american student allegedly said she was motivated by race. billy davis who is white, is charged with attempted murder and aggravated battery. police say she told them she stabbed the 18-year-old indiana university student repeatedly in the head because she was chinese. brynn gingras is tracking the case for us. this is disturbing. what happened? >> it should not happen. and it did, on indiana university, a student, an 18-year-old, near the campus in bloomington, indiana.
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so what we're told by police is that 18-year-old was riding the city bus when this suspect was also on the bus, 56-year-old b billie davis, as that student was exiting the bus, the suspect gets up with a knife in her hand and either attempts or does actually stab this student seven times, according to the police records before the student was able to get off, received medical care. unclear how she is doing this morning. but now you can see that suspect right there, 56-year-old billie davis, she has been arrested and charged with attempted murder, among other charges. and as don said, she told police she attacked this particular student saying she did it because she was, quote, chinese, and also said this, quote, it would be one less person to blow up our country. that is what police say she actually told them when they interviewed her. >> we have been reporting over the course of the pandemic, the whole idea, remember the china flu and the rise of -- this is just one in an increase of antiasian crimes happening in
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our country. >> and it got worse, like you're saying. after coronavirus, we saw many of these. we're seeing them more in the cities and there is research done in the major 16 cities of the united states that from the first quarter of 2020 to 2021, attacks against asian americans went up 164%. that is an astronomical number. now, of course, what you're seeing here is that we know this happens everywhere, but this is seeping into middle america, into a college campus, this obviously, this campus, reeling. they're getting a lot of support, putting out a statement saying we all stand together as we do with them as well. >> right on. thank you. thank you very much. the faa is opening an investigation into a very near collision friday between two planes at newark's jfk international airport. the delta airlines pilot who is about to take off, the plane full of passengers, headed to the dominican republic, but had to come to an abrupt stop when an american airlines plane unexpectedly crossed in its path on the runway.
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>> delta 1946, cancel takeoff plans. delta 1946, cancel takeoff plans. >> thankfully nobody was injured in that incident. the flight was delayed until the following day, but how did something like this even happen? let's get a better understanding. joining us now is a pilot, founder and instructor at sim tech aviation, julian alacon. thank you for being with us. so, how can this happen? >> at the end of the day, we make mistakes. and we eliminate mistakes by training. we are expected to perform at our highest level at every flight we do. in this case, the american airlines was at the wrong place at the wrong time, didn't follow the instructions of air traffic control. >> so air traffic would be telling the pilots then in the american airlines plane, stop, or don't go, right, there is
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another plane about to take off, and they just perhaps didn't hear? is that how something like this happens? >> you got to back track a little bit. they were given an instruction to hold at a certain intersection. and that intersection is where they were supposed to make the right turn. when they were given the instruction to cross the runway, they crossed the wrong runway at the wrong intersection. >> oh, boy. >> listen, we don't want to -- the bottom line, this is very scary and could have had dire consequences. how dangerous is this situation like this for everyone involved? can you show us the simulator? >> of course. the -- it is a very dangerous situation, especially because as jfk and any major airport is pretty big, and we can see here at intersection this is the runway they were supposed to cross and they crossed the
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runway -- the active runway, the runway that airplanes were taking off from. so it is a pretty big deal. that's why the faa and the ntsb and the airlines are going to be conducting a very deep investigation. not only to know what happened inside the flight deck, but also how to prevent this incident from happening in the future. >> and i think one question is about the flight recorders that they have. but one concern that i heard is that they only record a certain amount of time, about two hours, i believe. people have pushed for it to be longer. is this a situation where it is clear that something like that should be changed? what changes do you believe should come as a result of this? because, yeah, it is a near miss, but it could have been catastrophic. >> so, the -- i don't know about changing the rule of two hours. the one thing that i do know is the pilots in the american flight, because this was an incident for the pilot
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deviation, they are going to be expected to fill out a report and if any of us, any pilot relies on those reports, that's when actually bigger actions get taken into effect. but at the end of the event, there are going to be -- they're filling out a report, and if anybody lies, that's the biggest deal, because they're going to conduct an investigation and investigators are very good at what they do in finding out the root cause of the incident. >> can you show us what happened? can you put a scenario together for us? can you take us through? >> of course. at the moment we are just short of the intersection where they were supposed to be holding short and making the right turn. and we can see the signs here where there are on alpha, the taxi way and they're supposed to make the right on kilo. would you like me to show you what they were actually supposed to do? >> yeah, of course. >> in this case, all they were supposed to do was supposed to be making a right turn here.
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because -- and they were supposed to be crossing runway 3-1 left. i'll bring it to a stop to point something out, and this is normally an airline technique, and any pilot training will do the same, before we cross any runways, not only do we have the big signs on the ground, but we also have the runway identifier and in this case, before we cross the runway, we should have been crossing 3-1 left. clear to cross 3-1 left and before we cross, we make sure there are no airplanes on the left or the right coming this way. >> so then what actually happened? >> this is exactly what was supposed to happen. let me reposition the simulator. let me reposition the simulator. so this is actually what ended up happening. they were supposed to be making a right, but they continued
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going straight to the active runway, in this case runway 4 left. and i'll bring it to a stop here. so, the -- while -- if you listen to the audiotapes, you can hear first officer, which is the pilot who normally works the radios, actually saying, clear kilo culture 3-1 left and they were crossing 4 left. and on the map and on the ipad which all airline pilots have access to them, we have the chart saying it is clearly going to be the wrong runway. but incidents do happen, we're humans at the end of the day. >> but how common -- >> there are markings everywhere to minimize these kinds of incidents. >> how common is something like this? >> it is not very common.
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anywhere near an active runway, we treat it very carefully because of this type of incidents. so generally speaking when we cross a runway, all pilots are looking out the window. in the case of the american flight that were going to london, i believe, there should have been three pilots on board. however, as a team working together, and delays on communication could have happened, but it is not very -- doesn't happen very often. >> well, that's good to know. but hopefully it doesn't happen at all. julian alarcon, thank you for showing us that simulation. that was really interesting. >> thank you, julian. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. all right, also this morning, house speaker kevin mccarthy is now claiming he's always had questions about george santos and his resume. we're going to speak to santos' former friend and roommate next. . the only smart bed in the world that actively cools, warms and effortlessly responds t to both of you. our smart t sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep numbmber.
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well, now, house speaker kevin mccarthy said he always had some doubt about george santos' resume. listen. >> when were you first made aware about some of the allegations around santos? >> i always had a few questions about it. >> always had a few questions about it. if that is true, he did not share any of those questions or concerns right after election day when he tweeted this. george santos will be a great leader and conservative voice for the people. closed quote. mccarthy didn't raise any objections when then next week when he hailed santos' jewish heritage in another claim that turned out to be a lie. here was that moment. >> i really want to talk about who is the makeup of this new majority. you heard from some already. max miller in ohio, george santos in new york, and you had david custoff from tennessee get
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re-elected, he introduced him, do you realize we have the largest republican jewish caucus in more than 24 years. >> mccarthy's downplayed the revelations about santos and how he fabricated, lied about so many details about his background, even as he's come under intense scrutiny and the scrutiny of prosecutors. mccarthy acknowledged he may not get a security clearance. >> i don't see any way he's going to have top secret, referring to george santos. he has a long way to go to earn trust. the one thing i do know is you apply the constitution equal to all americans. the voters of his district have elected him. >> we should note, some of the lies from santos even extended to mccarthy himself after it was reported that earlier in 2021 an aide to santos was caught impersonating mccarthy's chief of staff while soliciting campaign donations. >> if it happened, i know they
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corrected it. i was not notified about that until a later date. yeah. i didn't know about it until a later date unfortunately. >> well, something wasn't adding up. the way george santos talked about himself, and the life he led, that is according to a former friend and roommate, who took this photo of the future congressman, this is back in 2014, but then santos went by his middle name, back then, anthony devolder. the former friend gregory morey-parker rented space from him in a queens apartment he shared with his family. he even grew close with santos' mother, you can see them there, right there, in that photograph. and according to him, she wasn't pleased with the lifestyle her son was trying to portray. she would roll her eyes and say anthony and his stories. santos faces growing pressure to resign from congress over his lies. we're learning more about the stories that he told to a -- when he was a younger man. and his family's wealth and his
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so, we're talking about just before the break, we're learning more about the lies george santos as a younger man about his family's wealth and business success. his former roommate gregory morey-parker joins us now. a little technical difficulty there, we're glad you're here and you're able to hear us loud and clear. are you good? >> yes, i am. good morning, don. thank you. >> good morning, thank you so much for joining us. you knew santos for a number of years starting in 2013. how did you end up living in the same house? >> so, my lease in astoria was up in queens and he was, like, oh, well, you know, the new york rental market is ridiculous, come stay with me for, you know, a month or two while we get everything sorted out and try to find you a place. i was, like, oh, okay.
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so i took him up on it, moved in, and it was definitely an interesting few months. >> explain that to us. what was he like back then? why you to say it was interesting? >> well, he -- i suppose the biggest thing that i took away from it was, like, just delusions of grandeur. like, he would just go to bars with, you know, rolls of 100 dollar bills and, you know three days later he would have no money. or, you know, he would constantly be saying, well, i'm going to sell my phone, do you know anybody who wants to buy it? and, you know, why are you selling it? oh, don't worry about it. and it is just things just started continuously spiraling, getting, like, kind of ridiculously crazy. his mother was a housekeeper, in
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manhattan, and it just didn't seem feasible for him supposedly to come from all this generational wealth if you will and why are you doing the things that you're doing? it doesn't make sense to me. >> he had made allegations that he came from generational wealth. you're saying his mother was a housekeeper in the city, in manhattan. so, people are going to wonder, also, you know, he -- you knew him at -- through another name, right? the last name devolder. >> yes. i've always known him as anthony devolder. i've never known him as george santos. i was actually quite surprised. i guess he went by his middle name and his mother's name. but, yeah, no, i always have known him as anthony devolder. >> so, listen, you know people, gregory, are going to wonder why you're coming out, well, that's his side of the story and we
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need to tell our viewers we did reach out to george santos' representatives, his lawyers, and we haven't heard back from them, though we have tried since the story had begun with him, his representatives had declined and his office in washington. you say something wasn't adding up between the way santos talked about himself. what else doesn't add up? >> well, just i kind of assumed that he had made up, you know, about going to baruche and nyu. i'm sure the dccc and the rnc would have investigated him and done some research. i thought maybe i'm wrong. maybe this is just, you know,
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the truth and i was incorrect. but obviously the truth has finally come out, and i just -- i don't understand. did he go, like, one by one to everybody in his district and just literally pull the wool over their eyes? like, how -- it just is flabbergasting. >> i'm wondering if this was the end of -- i guess a rocky relationship, it started off well, this is, again, according to you, he believe he stole a burberry scarf from you and wore it when he gave a speech, one day before the capital attack. cnn has not independently verified this claim. in the speech, santos falsely claimed the 2020 congressional election was stolen from him. now, you say this is not -- it is more than just a stolen scarf. this is bigger than that. did he take other things and why are you saying this is bigger than just a scarf?
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>> it just bothers me. he's one of the highest elected officials in the country. he's responsible for making the laws. and, yes, i mean, i do miss my burberry scarf, but at the same time it is why i feel like they're not focusing enough on the issues at hand, you know. where did all this money come from to finance the campaign? the whole thing is just -- it is quite bewildering to me. how he even got elected. >> well, we -- we appreciate you joining us this morning. gregory morey-parker, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> kaitlan? all right, also this morning, despite the cowboys victory over tampa bay last night, the cowboys kicker brett
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maher probably wants to forget the nfl record he set last night. it was definitely -- you go to the playoffs, you're in the playoffs, you want to set records, you miss four extra points. >> yes. so this morning's number is, as kaitlan was going for, the most extra points missed by one player in one game, four last night. brett maher setting the record, the previous record was three. i just never have seen anything like this before. to see two missed extra points in a game is something. to see three, but to see four. and not just four, but four in a row. that was the most bizarre thing i saw this entire weekend. you know, kaitlan, i watch a ton of nfl football. when i see my kicker miss one extra point, i throw my cap on the side, but the fact he missed four, unbelievable. >> i was worried for his safety. i love rg-3 tweeted somebody
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needs to check his phone records. >> check his phone records. despite last night's game being so lousy, the rest of the weekend's games were pretty good. seven-point media margin across the six games. it was within a touchdown. this gets at something that is larger about football and why people like me are so addicted. and that is the playoff games, in particular the wild card games, are getting better over time. the media margin now 7.5 points, that's well down from where we were 20 years ago when it was 14 points, is shrunk in half. >> it is fun to watch. the cowboys had a great game. dak prescott had an amazing game last night. >> he had an amazing game. the fact is, brett maher had a game that he sorely wants to forget. >> makes you feel -- >> why do you keep reminding him then? >> that's my job as a person in the media, to tell the truth, now matter how painful the truth may actually be. >> if i was him, i would be like can we stop playing all four? >> well, he's lucky they didn't
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cut it at halftime. >> he's lucky the cowboys won. >> speaking of the cowboys, that means tom brady was eliminated from the playoffs. so now the speculation over brady's future can officially begin right now. brady addressing or not addressing his off season plans. listen to this. >> i'm going to go home, get a good night's sleep as good as i can today. there has been a lot of focus on this game. so, yeah. just one day at a time, truly. >> so, our tom brady is here. >> i love that. >> better known as john berman. so, john what do you think? >> together we have -- >> you're a superfan. >> we have seven super bowl rings between us. he keeps them. we agreed he gets to keep them and wear them. >> what do you think? >> i think tom brady is going to do whatever he wants. i came down this morning, i went to sleep before the game was over last night because i get a lot of sleep now. and i said to my wife, i said, you know, tom brady lost last night, she said to me, very soothingly, she said, you know,
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that's okay, he's won a lot too. which is true. that's the truth at this point. he is still one of the top five quarterbacks in the nfl. he had the most passing attempts ever this season. the third most yards for any quarterback this season. if he wants to play, he'll play. >> what's this mug? >> this is a barry manilow mug. this is from dana bash. she knows i'm a big -- i have a show after this, i had to bring my drinking receptacle with me. >> is tom brady going to retire? that's what everybody wants to know. if you look at it, physically he could still do another season, the question is mentally and emotionally is he there? >> he's going to be 46 next season if he plays. >> old man. >> well, you're, like, yeah, i can't even remember 46. kaitlan is like that's three decades from now. >> and i'm creeping up on it. >> i know.
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mentally he had a tough year, right? going to divorced this year. he did not look like he was having fun playing for the bucs. that cuts both ways. some people are looking at it saying, oh, he's done -- he doesn't want to deal with this anymore. other people are saying, particularly in boston, where they report his every move, he doesn't want to go out like this. tom brady wants to go out on top. there are a couple of good teams out there that could use -- >> i hate to disagree with my co-anchor, i don't think that's the big question. the big question is was gisele right? >> about whether he should retire? i think that's between the two of them and the kids. >> what happens to the bucs if he leaves? >> i think he's gone from the bucs. i don't think a lot of people think he's staying with the bucs. he didn't have fun this year. they need a new quarterback. they have a lot of players coming in and out. the raiders are named as a likely location because josh mcdaniels was his offensive coordinator, the head coach there, the tennessee titans, mike vrabel, his former teammate is a coach there. >> thanks, john brady. >> appreciate it. >> good one! >> thanks, john brady.
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appreciate it. that sculpture to honor martin luther king jr. has sparked a lot of talk. the artist who designed it will talk to us about the message. he's here in studio ahead. >> talk about that statue. what do you think healthier looks like? cvs can help you support your nutrition, sleep, immune system, energy ...even sn. cvs so healthier can lookyour a lot like...you. cvs. healthier happens togeer.
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okay, so a monument meant to honor the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. and his wife coretta scott king's legacy face something backlash. the embrace, called the embrace, was unveiled friday at the boston common where king gave a speech back in 1965. it was inspired by a photograph of the couple hugging after dr. king won the nobel peace prize back in 1964. look at the hands in the picture and look at that. the art piece is designed by conceptual artist hank willis thomas. only features the couple's arms during the embrace and not their heads which sparked a mixed reaction. >> it is not the missing heads that is the atrocity.
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other people glam on to that. it is a stump that looks like a -- >> look at this. youtubers, i'm sorry, that looks like a giant penis right there, i'm sorry it does. >> i think the artist did a great job. i'm satisfied. but it represents something that brings people together. >> not sure we played some of that because it is obviously trolls. but joining us is the conceptual artist behind the statue, hank willis thomas. >> good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> welcome. >> i saw the small version and the concept beforehand at the dinner and i thought it was fantastic. a lot of people think it is fantastic. and you don't really care -- >> i care, because, i mean, how could you not think about dr. king, and mrs. king's legacy and not care. but, also, when you put art in the world, you can't control what people see. i think about the rorschach test, what you see says a lot
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about the world. the work is meant to be gone into. it is a call to action. you go in and be in the heart of their embrace. what people see online, i can't really control. >> i love this. because it makes you think more deeply. and i love -- so much focus is on dr. king, and not on her, right? it is a couple, and the importance of that support and power. but also you say there are so many monuments of the kings we don't see them as real people. that was your goal here. >> yeah, i wanted to capture -- embody the feeling of love in their relationship. there is a quote that really inspired this piece in -- from mrs. king's book, my love, my legacy. but it says to me the beloved community is a realistic vision of an achievable society, one in which problems and conflicts exist, but are resolved peacefully and without bitterness. the beloved community is a state of heart and mind, a spirit of
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hope and goodwill that transcends all boundaries and barriers and embraces all creation. the idea of the beloved community that they talked about, that we forget about, is what i was hoping and i'm hoping -- what i know whenever i see someone go in they feel. >> what does it mean for you to be able to contribute to their legacy in this way? >> it's unbelievable. boston common is the oldest continuously used public space in the country. dating back to the 1600s. to have a monument to the descendants of slaves who were inspirational beings who will be known and talked about for centuries, and celebrated through this work is something that i am eternally grateful for. >> so a couple of rapid fire questions. you're happy with it? >> overjoyed. >> no plans to modify or change it? >> no. >> would you do that if they asked? >> i mean, by who? this is a piece that was selected by the people of boston. this is not hank just came and put something -- thousands of people worked on this. thousands of people actually put
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it together and no one saw this i would say perverse perspective. and to bring that to the kings' legacy and -- to dictate the making of art and celebration of them is strange for me. >> i think it is -- obviously you see what you want. and i think sometimes the most compelling art is the controversial art or what people bring. i have this one piece, you know who william pope -- >> yeah. >> people come in, which was rasheed said, i love it, i love this piece, rasheed johnson, a friend of ours. get this piece. it is the most -- it is the first thing that people talk about when they come into the house. >> yeah. >> so if it causes people to have a discussion, then isn't it worth it? >> yeah. and good art asks questions and what you see says a lot. and so what i'm asking you what do you see? i see the power of love to transform society. other people see other things. but i really can't wait for you
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guys to go and see it and be inside it. that's where the awe really happens. >> i can't wait to take my kids. i was telling, my daughter just came home, she's 6, on friday, she learned who dr. martin luther king was, to hear that through a child's voice for first time and what he did for the country was a lot. >> last thing, i remember when the vietnam war memorial came out, there was a lot of controversy around that, now it is so beloved. a lot of people see crazy things when they look at the washington monument. there is all kinds of ways in which these monuments have sparked various perspectives. this is just another one of them. >> such a good point. and you make such a good point about it being a conversation starter and really the point is to have a conversation about their legacy and about why you did this. i'm glad we have that conversation. >> ultimately that would, even wherever it starts, it will lead to that part where you want it to lead. it also reminds me, i lived in chicago, remember when the bean was installed. >> yeah. >> you know. it is what it is. >> yeah. >> i love you. and your gorgeous wife.
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>> thank you. >> you should have brought her on. >> i should have. >> hank willis thomas, we appreciate it. best of luck. >> thank you for having me on. great to be here. ahead for us on "cnn this morning," an entire school district in virginia under investigation for failing to give their students the national merit scholarship awards in time for college applications. who the governor is blaming next. and pet wrangler, too. so becoming a student again might seem impossible. national university is herere to support all of you. national university. supporting the whole you.
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for college. >> absolutely. we are talking about multiple schools in fairfax county school district, but the virginia attorney general mentions three in particular, three high schools where they failed to tell students that they got commendations from the national merit scholarship corporation. these are basically honorable mentions, it means you made the top 50,000 of students who took these tests, the tests you need to take in order to be able to apply for these scholarships which is actual money. cheese commendations they are out of the running for the national merit scholarship in particular. they are still able to get access to corporate or business-sponsored scholarships but parents argue that they want to at least -- the students want to at least be able to include this in their college applications for early decision. it is an honor. it is not exactly the same thing as taking money right out of their pockets because when it comes to these other scholarships, those are usually applying to a limited number of people. so it's not exactly the same
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thing. the commendation and the scholarship are not the same thing but the investigation is going on because parents sort of raise an alarm saying that they thought the schools were holding back on recognizing these students in order to not make others feel bad. listen to what virginia governor glenn youngkin had to say about this. he feels pretty strongly. >> they have a maniacal focus on equal outcomes for all students at all cost, and at the heart of the american dream is excelling, is advancing, a stretching, and recognizing that we have students of different capabilities. this overarching effort for equal outcomes is hurting virginia's children and it's hurting even worse the children that they aspire to help. >> so this is part of a larger discussion that we've seen going on with virginia governor glenn youngkin who ran on education issues and has talked even about changing of the admissions process at tj.
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so this is -- the problem is that it's not clear who he is talking about. who said that they are looking for equal outcomes for everyone? i'm not certain where he's getting that from. a lot of debate going on about this. >> the argument is they would have benefited this they could have mentioned on their college applications they got this recognition. >> exactly. it is recognition, it is not money, not the same thing as money. >> athena jones, thank you. just ahead, a new development this morning involving missing mother from massachusetts, why call logs contradict what her husband's lawyers say. you love, plus the powerful l cough relief you need. mind if i roroot through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand eldererberry. get $150 bucks. [in unison] training montage. ♪ you got a g don't you? use it! fanduel, ameri's number one sportsbook.
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