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two big meetings this morning on ukraine. next hour the president will host the dutch prime minister at the white house to discuss support for ukraine. and then later secretary of state antony blinken meets his counterpart. >> volodymyr zelenskyy is expected to address those in davos tomorrow. his wife first lady speaking there this morning and warning the west that ukraine is, quote, facing the collapse of the world as we know it. all of this follows the devastating missile attack over the weekend on the apartment building in dnipro, ukraine. officials say 44 people are dead and dozens are still missing. >> we want to go right to ben wedeman near eastern ukraine near the on going battle for the town of soledar. this is a town that the russians want to be in full control of. what is the latest? >> reporter: the latest, it is hard to say, john. because we have two very
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conflicting claims. the russian military said that as of friday, they controlled the town. ukrainians dispute that claim. and say they still have parts of it. now, what we know is what we saw. we were in -- in the area around soledar for several days. what we saw is ukraine forces are digging in, they're not trying to retake the town, just trying to hold the pogs they have. now this afternoon we got in touch with some of the troops and they say they are no longer in the area and that they have pulled back. now we don't know if that is part of an organized withdrawal or just a rotation of troops. but what is clear is that the situation is very difficult for ukrainian troops around soledar and the fear is that if and when soledar completely falls and that is confirmed two the russians, that the fighting will intensify further south.
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as the russians seem to be gaining control of soledar north of here in bakhmut, the fighting is intensifying. one local resident told us before mortars were flying over their heads, now it is bullets. soldiers prepare trenches inside of the city. new defensive positions if the russians push forward. there will be sandbags with wood on top said valentine and three firing positions. on a bluff overlooking bakhmut, is a pilot that said they're up against troops, many of them convicted with the private military company vagner. we're fighting against soldiers brought to the slaughter, he said. these vagner guys have no choice. they're sentenced to death. and then the order comes to open
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fire. a and the city is really divided between russian and ukraine forces. fighting is going on in some areas, street to street and house-to-house. there is a significant military presence in the area, but sf speaking to ukrainian soldiers around the town they tell us there are a lot of russian forces that, it is very difficult at this point for the ukrainians to go on the offensive. the best they could do right now as you saw from parts of that report we did, they're digging trenches in the city as well as around the city and reinforcing their armor as much as possible in the event that -- and it seems like a probability at this point that the fighting resumes
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with an intensity we haven't seen before in bakhmut. john. >> the idea that it could get worse than you're see right there is chilling. thank you so much for your reporting. stay safe. well as we noted, this morning in a special address to the world economic forum, ukrainian first lady said her home country is facing the collapse of the world as they know it and russia's aggression is creating challenges around the grlobe. >> and she said there is nothing off limits for russia. cnn's julia chatterley is live at the world economic forum in davos. so, julia, what else did ukraine's first lady have to say about this? >> reporter: it was an emotional, poignant message as you said. nothing is off limits here. but she followed up on that attack this weekend and she said, look, this was just ordinary people on a saturday and that was enough reason for russia to kill. with he knew that ukraine was
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going to be front and center in the conversations here at davos this year. and i think she perhaps was the best advocate they could have sent for the ongoing support, the ongoing weaponry that ukraine keeps asking for. and to be frank, the message that she got back from european commission president was we stand by you. just take a listen to both the first lady and vander lay in speaking today. [ speaking non-english ] >> translator: we are facing the threat of a collapse of the world as we know it. the way that we are acustommed to it or to what we aspire. this war could go further and make crisis wider is the aggressor does not lose. in >> in this last year, your country has moved the world and has inspired europe. and i can assure you that europe will always stand with you.
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there will be no impunity for these russian crimes. >> reporter: it very much ties to the theme of davos this year which is this collaboration and a fragmented world and one of the beacons of light has been the unity in the face of high inflation, high energy costs and they've continued to support ukraine, no matter what. and that message still stands today. i think there is the dawning reality which is no one sees an end to this. no one sees how this conflict resolves itself and it ties and it is at the core of all of the challenges that everybody is talking about, the cost of living crisis, as i mentioned high energy prices, food insecurity and inability as we tacking the challenges and issues of today to have enough room to focus on some of the biggest challenges of the present and future like climate change. but certainly once again ukraine front and center and also those
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voices, it is a message of support and long may it continue in the face of all odds, i think. >> yeah, julia chatterley, we're expecting to hear from president zelenskyy tomorrow and it is a fine line he was to walk because he's thanking the allied countries for their help but saying i need more. this is not ending any time soon. >> i want to talk more about that because with us is steve haul. what bianna was saying there, there are all of these meetings around the world, they're talking about it in davos and washington today and the u.s. has a delegation in kyiv today shoring up support of one kind or another for ukraine. well, why? is there a sense that it needs shoring up and is that enough? is just the status quo enough at this point for ukraine to win? >> well, john, i think what this is reflective of when you hear all of the country's leaders, whether it is at davos or elsewhere, say we need to do
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something to continue to shore up our support, is because they understand that this is russia's plan. russia's plan is to wait until that resolve, until the idea of supporting ukraine either becomes too difficult for countries to do for economic reasons, perhaps, or we simply lose focus. because we're looking at whatever the next crisis is. and though that is what russia's plan is. i agree, we're not -- we're a long way from the end of this. we're not finished with this yet and it is going to be a long time. and if we're going to continue to support ukraine as we should, it is going to take continued resolve and i think that is what going on when you hear the leaders speak as they do. >> and in the meantime russia ab putin are buying time regrouping. they conscripted about 300,000 soldiers in the fall and there are expectations that you could see an additional 1.5 million men con crscripted in the month ahead. and they believe that vladimir
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putin wants to make another stab at kyiv. and with the united states intelligence saying this is exactly what vladimir putin wants to do, a year later, do your sources an intel see the same things that ukrainian intel is seeing that vladimir putin wants to go after kyiv again? >> from an analytic perspective, it seems to make sense. putin doesn't have any options at this point. what is he going to do? say it didn't work, let's pull everybody back and go home. that is not the way russians fight wars. they compensate lack of quality for inserting qualintitied. that is why they are sent ill-prepared into battle as were the vagner guys were when they were pulled out of jail. she said they're fighting for the world as we know it because we're talking about the ability to allow russia or any country just to run into another country and then an ex portions of it
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and that is why the west is involved, because it does threaten the international order. >> what changes the balance on the ground there? there are tanks and everybody is excited about the possibility of the ux k. sending 12 tanks and leopards made in germany. what kind of a difference would that make and the numbers that they're actually talking about? >> my understanding is that the number of tanks that the brits are talking about sending or even if you start polling other nations as to what heavy armor their going to send, it won't make a whole lot of difference immediately on the ground. but this is like a tide. this is not something that changes overnight. these are big military operations, big military weaponry. a lot of training involved. so the whole thing is going to take time. and that is what west -- the west is trying to ramp up. while russia is saying, you guys ramp up, we're going to continue to player to the long run and continue to contribute russians to die in front of these.
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it will take time to work itself out. it will be a long time. >> and we had vladimir putin today touting how resilient the economy has been this year. it has declined 3%. and earliest estimates were in the range of 10%. so given the sanctions leveled against russia, what more could be done for the kremlin to finally say this is too painful, despite all of the dead troops it is too painful for us economically to continue. >> well really, what else is going to say? well these sanctions are hitting us hard. >> but 3% -- -- 3% isn't that bad. >> i think what is going to happen -- i think it is happening have an impact. and i think it is up to putin on his own airwaves to convince russias saying things aren't going so well so say everything is fine. so you're going to continue to see this propaganda which is stock and trade for vladimir putin. but i think it is having an effect and if russia is in this
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for the long run, the sanctions have to continue because they fight harder and harder as time goes on. >> steve haul, great to see you. thank you so much for the analysis. >> sure. the white house is scrambling to get control of the narrative on the classified documents controversy. but sources tell cnn that president biden is growing increasingly frustrated with how his administration is handling the messaging. plus, residents of a small town in arizona are suing after being cut off from their water supply. why a larger city shut down the water flow there. and what is sending egg prices soaring. and when could the costs come down? some answers ahead. oh man. always look for the grown in idaho seaeal. okay e everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we support immune function.
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this morning sources tell cnn that president biden is growing frustrated over how his administration is handling the message on the discovery of classified documents at his private office and home. cnn has also been told that more searches of president biden's properties are possible. >> m.j. lee is at the white house with more. yet another headache for this administration. so is there a new strategy in terms of messaging and what is that strategy? >> reporter: well, what we are learning is that as the story has consumed the white house over the last week, president biden himself has grown frustrated at what he feels like has been a story that overshadowed a positive streak for the administration. and meanwhile, in the building behind me, white house aides who were many of them in the dark about this story until the story really break last week, that their mood is one of quiet resignation. it is what it is mentality right
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now as they, too, wait like most everyone else to see if more classified documents surface and what has been notable in reporting out this story is that even some of the president's closest allies are starting to wonder out loud why the white house wasn't more forthcoming about all of this and about what they have known and why they weren't more forthcoming sooner. particularly puzzled by the white house counsel's office decision to put out the initial statement last week. but not disclose that they knew about additional documents. doug jones is someone that i spoke to for this story and he believes the white house has made some unforced errors. he told me once you make a statement and once you have the facts, you have to be full and complete. they weren't full and complete and he said, gosh, come on, y'all, you've go the to do a better job when things like this happen. that is exactly what i would say. he use d a different word there. but he thought the lawyers are
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handled everything appropriately by initially going quickly to the national archives to tell them about the discovery of the documents. >> and m.j., are there any answers to the questions that you were posed before about why they handled this as they did? what governed their decisions and statements? >> reporter: ever since the first batch was discovered in early november, the small number of aides that have known about the existence of the documents have operated under the basic rule of don't share anything publicly that could jeopardize this investigation. and a part of that calculation clearly comes from bob bower himself. this is the personal lawyer to president biden who has been taking lead on this. you saw that statement from him over the weekend when he tried to lay out how he has been trying to balance transparency and not interfering with an ongoing investigation as part of that he said, look, i think it is important to not be publicly sharing information about the
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investigation as it is ongoing. and we've seen this comes from the president himself. yesterday he went to this mlk day breakfast event and he had a private conversation with al sharpton and when they had this private conversation the president didn't bring up this issue at all. and when he did bring up house republicans in that conversation, it wasn't to talk about the investigation that they are promising. sharpton said it was to talk about how he wanted to reach out to them to talk about issues like voting rights. so sort of a telling exchange that i think goes to show how the white house is operating right now. >> m.j. lee, thank you so much for sharing your reporting. we'll see you soon. joining us now, tolusa, and jennifer waters. so is there a way now for the white house to reverse course, perhaps get ahead of this story now that a special counsel has been appointed?
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what more could they do? >> well, first, they have to hope there are no more classified documents out there that will add to this news cycle which has continued for more than a week because it has been a drip, drip, drip cycle in which we've seen now information coming out and new classified documents found in different locations. so they have to hope they have done the full review. it is not clear. they have not confirmed they have done a full review of where classified documents might be. if they have done that review and when they finish, it will be incumbent to put out as much as possible otherwise you get investigations and people wondering if it is worse than it appears so it is incumbent upon the white house and the people close to the president and his lawyers to put out as much information to be as transparent not ome about what is out there and but what they've found so far, including the documents found at the office that he had, the documents found in his wilmington home, it will be important for them to say
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exactly what happened, how it happened and who found them and why this happened so the m american people could be confident this is not anything more nefarious than what the president said, which is a mistake that shouldn't have happened but only a sense of sloppiness as opposed to people taking things that they vunt have taken on purpose. >> and jennifer rodgers, to that point, talking about the news cycle, lawyers care about that but they care about other things more. what are the legal open -- legal questions that still exist here beyond are there any more documents? >> well we have a special counsel to decide whether there is any criminal liability here. this is the big ticket item. rob hur is conducting an investigation into how the documents ended up being where they were found. was there any criminal action here and was it intentional and
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under the statutes you need intentionality, it doesn't look like there will be criminal charges here but that is what rob hur's job is to figure that out. and the question is what is congress doing? rob hur and the justice department will have to defend his investigation. they can't allow their witnesses to be interviewed by congressional committees, they can't allow this information to leak out into the public realm while it is being criminally looked at. so they need to protect they are vi -- protect their investigation and in terms of requesting information about this, and the justice department and rob hur's office as they conduct their investigation going forward. >> that could be one of the many battles in congress in the coming days and weeks. the u.s. government is expected to hit the debt ceiling as soon as thursday according to the treasury department. kevin mccarthy is ready to negotiate and the white house is not budging.
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but he has a faction within his own party that clearly held his own speakership hostage. what are you hearing about what they're willing to do and how far they're willing to go in holding the debt ceiling hostage until they get what they want? >> kevin mccarthy won the spe speakership by promising these hard-line conservatives that he would take the fight to the white house over the debt ceiling. that he wouldn't approve an increase as we've done multiple times in the past. and so this is a collision course between the white house which said they're not going to negotiate, we've already incurred these bills and we have to pay the bills that we owe and athe republicans want to stop the spending, they want to reduce spending and make cuts to different programs. so it does appear that it is a major collision that is likely to happen in the next few months, in which the republicans are saying that they need to negotiate, they need spending cuts and the white house is saying they're not going to negotiate because they've seen what happened in the past where
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negotiations happened over the debt ceiling and it led to major problems in the u.s. economy. and so the white house and the republicans at some point will have to get into a room and work this out but right now it seems like they're not feeling the pressure yet and the treasury department is trying to put some of that pressure on by saying we don't have a lot of time. you have to figure out what kw you're going to do so we don't default on our debt for the first time in u.s. history. so it does appear there is a gridlock right now and it will require some handling of this by president biden and by his administration. because right now it seems the republicans are not going to approve anything without getting some sort of spending cuts, some sort of movement on the issues that they care about and speaker mccarthy has his hands tied as well. so it does appear this is going to be a major collision at some point in the next few months and it is not yet clear how it is going to work out just yet. >> it seems like deja vu. every year we're at this near collision point and the question
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a suburb of scottsdale, arizona is suing after the bigger city cut off access to water. for years scottsdale has allowed households in the foothills to buy water but that stopped after a drought and water shortage in the colorado river triggered federal conservation rules. >> so now residents are hoping a lawsuit will restore access to the water supply. lucy kafanov joins us with this story. >> reporter: well these residents are basically hoping to force scottsdale to keep selling water to this community even though it is not a part of the city. this is a group of residents who claim that scottsdale is leaving the rio verde officials high and dry. scottsdale which gets their water from the colorado river sa saying they're in a drought. saying there is no santa claus, water is not a compassion game. now my team spent time in the
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h foothills and some see fall because of the drought that we're in. >> are people taking it seriously enough. >> they're not. >> water is more precious than you realize. and once you go to your faucet and you turn it on, there is no water, then it is value and it becomes real. >> now this is a small community in the desert on the outskirts of scottsdale so it is not within city limits. you have to drive up this dusty road to get there. it is unincorporated which means folks don't pay city taxes which people use to see as a plus. not a lot of government interference. many would get their water from wells. but those wells have been drying up and in this mega drought so
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several hundred homes have been relying on hauled water which up until january 1st was purchased from nearby scottsdale. but when drought conditions forced the federal government to declare a shortage in the colorado river, reducing how much water arizona to use, scottsdale had to cut off the water delivery to outside communities to conserve water to meet its own residents' needs. so this is not a surprise. rio verde has more than a year to come up with solutions but neighbors and politicians couldn't agree on one. the developers keep building. maricopa county is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation. and right now in rio verde, people are not flushing the toilet or using rain water. they're not taking showers. and i have to say, this is an example of how climate change is changing life as we know it and what is potentially in store for the rest of us in the southwest given that our rivers and res -- and res voirs are continuing to shrink. >> this is happening to
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communities that could happen to other parts of the country as well. lucy, keep us posted on how the suit goes. thank you. so inflation cools last month but the prices at the grocery still are still up. egg prices up 60% in the last year. >> cnn's vanessa yurkevich is following this for us. so there has an avian flu. what is the main factor behind this spike. >> i think when we go to the grocery store, we get our milk and our bread and eggs and don't think too much about the prices. but just in last year we've seen a dozen eggs go from about $1.79 all the way in just the last year to $4.25. and this is in part because of the deadly avian flew -- flu th killing and it started in the spring and it is catching up with us now. in chilly palmer alaska, the demand for chickens and eggs is heating up. >> was already sold out before the egg shortage.
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i was selling everything i had. >> reporter: if you've been to the grocery store recently, you may have noticed fewer eggs and higher prices. up about 11% last month on average from november, up nearly 60% in last year. $11.49 for a dozen eggs in new york. $10.99 in hawaii. >> i think it is ridiculous. for it to be that much. >> reporter: the highly pathogenic avian flu is largely to blame. nearly 58 million birds and climbing have died across 47 states in the last year. a result of the deadly virus. wild birds could carry the disease and spread it to domestic flocks when they migrate. >> one wild bird coming into their chicken run and the next thing you know, ten birds, 20 birds, 30 birds are just dropping dead. >> reporter: some states now recommending that all poultry be maintained indoors. poultry and bird shows canceled an bio security around chickens
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strictly enforced. >> the avian flew is serious. >> reporter: egg shop with two cafes in new york city is struggled with prices on their main ingredient. the fall migration of wild birds sent avian flu cases spiking again. >> we go through 7,000 to 9,000 eggs a week so it is a significant amount of eggs. in the last couple of weeks they've jumped as high as 60%. >> how you have been able to absorb the prices. >> we've raised prices about 10% on the menu items. >> for some it is too much. one baker why i in nebraska will close its doors this weekend. >> i think about what our family could afford to pay for a cookie. we take that into consideration. we can't charge $5 a cookie. >> it is going beyond restaurants and bakers. take a look around the grocery store.
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i items that use eggs like mayonnaise are up 8% in the last year. >> from the flu to the increases in inflation, all combined together with the shortage, it is a perfect storm. >> and they definitely have seen the prices shoot up recently. >> does that stop you from making the purchase? >> no. not at all. i'm just buying things to make a chicken cutlet and you need eggs. that is there is no way not to purchase them. >> the department of agriculture said that prices are eggs are dropping a little bit but supply is still light to moderate. the holiday season really boosted demand. we are all cooking, making a lot of bread and eggnog and cookies. so we're through that. so demand could soften a little bit. but the thing to keep you'r eye is on avian flu. they are being kept indoors and no one is allowed to interact with them except for the
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farmers' on site. and maybe some tempering in the next couple of months. >> you had me at mayonnaise. i'm concerned about the mayonnaise prices. >> it goes with bread. >> you love mayonnaise. yuck. >> it french fries. it is very european. i'm very sophisticated. i'm not sure you're aware of that. vanessa, thank you. we hope prices go down. well an afghan national who fought alongside u.s. forces is facing deportation after being detained after crossing the u.s./mexico border. now many are asking the biden administration for a pardon. i'll speak with his brother straight ahead.
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veterans groups and a member of congress from texas are now calling on president biden to help an afghan soldier jailed in texas. abdul fought alongside u.s. forces in afghanistan. but was unable to escape when u.s. troops withdraw from the country. he then traveled on foot and by bus through ten countries, three different continents to seek asylum in the united states but he was detained at the u.s./mexico border and facing the threat of deportation. joining me now is his brother, salma. thank you so much for joining us. i know that the clock is ticking here and in terms of a date to sentence your brother to possibly even go back to afghanistan. i know that is your worst fear here. how is your brother doing?
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>> my brother is currently very disappointed. because of how he's being treated by the same very country that he fought alongside in the most difficult moments of his life and the most critical situations of afghanistan. >> we should note that both you and your brother helped the u.s. military, you worked as an interpreter and came to the united states in 2015 under a special migrant visa. your brother stayed in afghanistan and just left in 2021. did he apply for an siv as well? >> he was working as a special force officer and so he was not directly working for united states military. he was part of afghanistan military and for that reason he
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was not qualified for siv. that is why he could not apply for siv. >> i know he was detained at the border in the fall. as we noted, some veterans groups and now congresswoman sheila jackson lee which represents the city where you are no houston have now ab volk ated for his release and pardon, calling on the white house to step in. have you been in any communication with the white house? have you heard from officials at all. >> unfortunately, i have not heard any response back from the white house regarding my brother's situation even though we provided all of the appropriate documents of his service working alongside the united states special forces in afghanistan. but unfortunately i have not been able to hear any response back even though multiple
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veteran groups and the congress men and women have signed letters and send them to the president, but unfortunately none of those requests have been responded back by the white house. >> how does your brother feel about that lack of communication and i guess my larger question is why was it so important for him and for you to work alongside the u.s. military there in afghanistan? >> me and my brother, we risked our safety and our family's safety working alongside the united states military and i'm sure everyone who hears us knows how difficult and challenging it is to work in a country such as
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afghanistan with the united states government. i worked for ten years from 2010 to august of 2020 as translator and in different parts of afghanistan. and my brother graduated from officer's academy in 2018 after receiving combat training from the united states special forces. he started his job as intelligence officer for special force commander in afghanistan but unfortunately when he arrived into the southern border, after providing all of the appropriate documents, he was taken into custody and charged criminally for crossing the border. >> we were just looking at photos of your brother there working alongside of the u.s.
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military at various points in afghanistan. if somebody in the white house, if the president is watching this, what message do you want to send about your brother and why it is so important for you to have him released? >> my message would be, mr. president, mr. brother is not a criminal. he's not a gang member. nor a drug dealer. he came to this country because he had no other option after the collapse of afghanistan. the hunt for his life started by the taliban. he was not going to survive just like so many of his friends were captured and killed for working alongside united states special forces. so he came to the very country who promised we will never leave
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our allies behind. and he came to this country with the hopes of that his service will be valued by this country, that he served alongside. but unfortunately, after arriving, he faces deportation to the country that has no other outcome but to get him captured and killed. so i'm pleading to the president, and those who have authority over this matter, to please intervene, step up and do the right thing. >> yeah. well sammy -- >> as it was promised. >> well, thank you so much for your time and telling us about your brother. thank you and your brother both for your service and please keep
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bianna. we're seeing declines in most areas when it comes to flu activity. but the takeaway message here is that the flu season is not over yet. we are still seeing significant levels of flu activity and when you look at the numbers, here is where we are now. so far this season, there have been at least 24 million illnesses, 260,000 hospitalizations. and sadly, 16,000 lives lost to flu so far this season. among those deaths, 79 were in children. and that is what stands out the most to me. it is so significant when you see the deaths in children. and we know that flu infection could turn deadly quickly in our youngest kids. i spoke with a mother in virginia who told me she lost her 3-year-old daughter to flu and her daughter's symptoms progressed within 48 hours leading to mucus in her lungs and sadly that life lost. so the takeaway here, because flu activity could last all the way up to may, it is important
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