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and look, we saw it on january 6th, when election lies exploded into violence at the united states capitol. well, now, the latest outbreak of allegedly politically motivated violence is in new mexico. a republican who lost his race for the new mexico house who tweeted after his defeat that the election was rigged and he vowed to fight it until the day he dies. now, that person has been arrested on suspicion of orchestrating shootings at the homes of four democratic elected leaders. now, no one was hurt, thankfully. but homes were damaged. >> shots came through my home, right where i had just hours before had been playing with my granddaughter. >> more on all of that in just a moment. and plus, we have sources telling cnn about a member of president biden's inner circle who has now been interviewed by federal investigators. we'll tell you who it is and what happened. as the biden administration is now saying that tonight, it will continue to cooperate

fully with the doj probe of presidential records. we also have some major developments tonight, a massachusetts missing mom, ana walshe. her husband is in custody tonight, facing a charge now of murder, murdering his wife. though her body has not been found. and there's no word yet on what the motive could be. the da says more evidence could be disclosed tomorrow. what might we learn? for more on the developing story in new mexico, though, i want to bring in cnn senior national correspondent kyung lah, who's live from albuquerque, and cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. i'm glad to have you both. this story is so disturbing, thinking about what could have been. and we've seen obviously, kyung, the idea of political grievance more broadly sparking a whole lot of incidents. now, what's happening there, tell me the very latest, what are we learning about this suspect, who is now in custody?

>> well, at the heart of all of this, according to the investigators here in albuquerque, is election denialism. the police chief here says that the mastermind behind a plot, attacking four democratic officials here in the city, is a person who was on the ballot himself, solomon peña. he is a -- well, he was a republican candidate for the state house. and he lost. he didn't lose by a little. he lost by a lot. you could more than double the number of people who voted for him and he still would have lost. but that did not stop his thinking that somehow he magically won his election. and he was posting on his social media account that he would not concede, that he supported trump in 2024. and the people he blamed, according to investigators, and who he targeted with

accomplices are four democratic officials. i want you to take a look at this list. these are four locations. you can see the dates of when these shootings happened. they're spread out over the month. according to law enforcement, this man, solomon peña, went and hired people, he sent them text messages, he went and essentially cased these victim's homes. and then he paid accomplices in order to target these people. and as you pointed out, laura, thankfully no one was hurt. but investigators say they believe this all again circles down to election denialism and this person who was on the ballot, laura. >> i mean, the trauma of what has happened. and you mentioned the idea of casing these houses. he actually went to some of these houses beforehand, right. he wasn't outside sort of in an innocuous way. he actually went and visited them. >> yeah, and i think that's really what's changed. if you talk to election officials nationwide, and i talked to a lot of them,

especially at the local level, the sort of rage that we normally saw directed at federal officials is now being directed to the people who you can actually touch, who you can find. and that is what investigators believe that peña did. what investigators say is that they've been able to collect some ring video of him showing up at various homes. there is one county commissioner, he went and rang the doorbell and specifically called out the county commissioner's name. it was actually her daughter's house. and then, he went around the corner. and he went to the county commissioner. that particular county commissioner, and he spoke to her face to face. and then he went and found another county commissioner who he was angry at, who he believed had rigged the election. i want you to listen to what she says. >> he came to my house after the election. and he's an election denier. he weaponize those dangerous thoughts to threaten me and others, causing serious trauma. yeah, he was saying the

elections were fake, really speaking erratically. i didn't feel threatened at the, time but i did feel he was erratic. >> and i spoke with her in person, you know, a little earlier this evening, laura. and she was distraught. she's really -- >> of course. >> she's really upset by the fact that her sense of safety has changed. and something else i should mention is this overall problem may not be ending nationally. but at least here in albuquerque, police say they are zeroing in on peña. he has a court hearing tomorrow. >> john, just hearing this and thinking about what could have happened. i mean, the idea of the anger he expressed, as kyung was speaking about, face to face with some of the people whose homes were then targeted later on. i'm interested about the arrest and how their of the pieces together, especially when you saw that screenshot of the different dates that were attributed to each different peoples homes. and i wonder if there is an attempt to try and make disappear random.

i mean the fourth, the eighth, the 11th, then in january, hoping to possibly not have connective tissue be apparent. i wonder what you make of this, john, and the idea of what happened in this arrest, and the motivation here and the climate we are in right now. >> well laura, i think the motivation was purely intimidation. which is, he couldn't reach these people by convincing them, so he wanted to send a message by literally saying you can't hide anywhere, not even at home. there is information in the case that, at one point, the people that he had doing these shootings, he said you're shooting too high. you need to shoot lower so that, you know, they know the bullets could have hit them. one of the bullets went into the home of a child who was sleeping. and you know, parts of the ceiling fell down on their bed. and you know, it's, it's extraordinarily frightening. but one question is, where does a navy veteran who is running

for the state house, you know, put together a crew of shooters to carry this out? and the answer is, well, his navy career was pretty unremarkable, his criminal career was pretty impressive. he was part of a smash-and-grab gang, they used trucks to drive into big box stores and steal high-end electronics. so, as we go forward in this investigation, it kind of makes a whole lot more sense where he could put together a crew to steal cars, do shootings, and help him wage this war of intimidation. >> i mean, not to mention, john, that point. the idea of intimidation, the idea of making someone feel like there is no safe recourse, no safe haven they could actually go to. we're talking about the basis of somebody believing that they had a right to be elected to office. i mean, years ago, i would say even four or five years ago perhaps, some would even say three, there would be no thought this could continue, this would actually happen here. and yet, now we're seeing more and more instances from the dhs bulletins about political

grievance, what motivates people, to now. why do you think this keeps happening? is it the idea that people are emboldened and they won't get caught? or is there a blind spot when it comes to law enforcement's focus? or is it politics at play? >> well, i think what you are watching is a thread that is continuing forward. where you see, you know, thousands of people storm the capitol. but lots of them dressed in tactical gear, military gear, carrying weapons. and then you see an individual storms the home of nancy pelosi in san francisco with a plan to break her legs and hold her hostage and assaults her husband. and then fights with police to, you know, a thing where in the midterm elections, you see people in tactical gear sitting around with rifles at polling locations, exercising their second amendment rights. so, if you weren't expecting this to happen now, i guess you're expecting it to happen next week.

this is the direction the vitriol is headed. where in the chat rooms i was looking at last week, they were saying we haven't come this far just to come this far. >> john, kyung, thank you so much. i want to bring in olivia troye, former homeland security and covid task force adviser to vice president pence. and former fbi assistant director peter strzok. it's very chilling to hear those words. i haven't come this far to come this far. something that's most motivate people to do the right thing. now being used to air outs one's grievances in a way that could lead to extraordinary violence is. and this is very personal to those who are often targeted in this realm, people who are going out there every day lives and in their positions, and find themselves at the receiving end of vitriol. you've had personal experiences, olivia, in this area. and i wonder what you make of what's happening in places like new mexico. >> i feel like it's certainly a worrisome trend. i've certainly lived it. we make life decisions on how it impacts my family. i make career decisions based

on that as well. and i think about this every single day. and i think about people like those people in albuquerque. some of those people were election officials. they were officiating and certifying election results, rightly so, just carrying out their duties. and now their lives are being threatened. you know, that woman's daughter was at the house. i think about people like that. this is a long-standing trend that we're seeing here. the rise that's directly related to the lies and propaganda that is being pushed out there. i mean, people are believing these election deniers. i mean, look at what happened. let's go back to cesar sayak, remember him? he was sending out the pipe bombs to people, he was sending out the -- where did that start? well, it started with the fake news narrative from someone sitting in the oval office, attacking the media, right. and next thing you know, pipe bombs are being sent to cnn. or i guess the demonization of political opponents. they were sent to political figures. this is an endless trend that we're seeing continue.

where does it end? it ends in violence. >> peter, that's such a fine point you raised, olivia, on that idea of following that thread, where it goes. and if you were to be very reductive, obviously, from fake news narratives to the idea of election denialism, it's about this idea that the government is trying to take away something from you. you know, they think you are dumb. they're trying to lie to you. people are having a visceral reaction to that, you know, false narrative that's been created. but that also brings people out of the woodwork who are already having grievance-based lives, who are already finding their allies in chat rooms. is that contributing to the idea of the anonymity, the social media, the idea of finding one's companions, essentially, is that contributing to the emboldening of these criminals? >> i think absolutely it is. look, when you look at social media, it is a self selecting environment. whatever you choose to believe, whatever you want to see, you can find it. and you can find other people who feel the same way. and unfortunately in the past, it was typically something in

our society where you would see leaders, whether they're political leaders, religious leaders, community leaders, saying this sort of violence is unacceptable. but unfortunately, we've seen over the past several years and continuing to this day elements within the political elites, particularly on the right, who are encouraging violence. >> well, it's advantageous at some point. >> absolutely, and marjorie taylor greene, just last month in new york, was recorded in conversation saying if i had led the attack on the capitol on january 6th, we would have won, and we would have been armed. and then what happens today? she is given a spot on the homeland security committee. and then on the house oversight who are looking at january 6th, and rather than calming the sentiment of violence, doing things to stoke that sort of outrage. and again, most people are not going to act on that. but the worry is you do get this very small percentage. but even if it's a tenth of 1%, that still a big number of violent people. >> so how do you -- i guess intimate the idea of the seeds that can be the

information you'd have access to and others. and the idea of every little kernel. we talk about comedy, how it's been funny, a kernel of truth is contained in it, and it's exaggerated. well, the idea of false narratives, a kernel of some semblance of truth, and then it's exaggerated, or it's exploited in some way that heightens peoples awareness of things and capitalizes on their naivete and ignorance. olivia when this happens, you are shaking your head at the idea of these committee assignments. but more broadly, i mean, the truth is, is there a way to actually quell this and stop it, if it's online chatter, if it's beyond, if you can't access it and tangibly hold it? >> well, you quell it with facts. but the problem is you have a bunch of elected leaders who aren't interested in talking about the truth. when they're doing, like he said, when you're doing a committee that's going to talk about weaponizing the government, people are taking that in and they're thinking, oh, the government is coming after me potentially. they're seeing that, right. they're going to investigate possibly covid, right.

they're attacking doctors. it's a whole revenge thing, right. where doctors are actually getting threats. i've talked to doctors in texas. i mean, this is an ongoing thing for them that started during the covid pandemic with a whole bunch of covid disinformation, right. so it pivots. and i've told people, it's not a matter of when disinformation comes for you, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. >> well, let me ask you, peter, how do you investigate this? i mean, how do you do it without being accused of being the thought police? >> i think you go and you follow the law. we have decades and decades upon generations of establishing a criminal justice system, certainly at the federal level, that has clear laws and mechanisms in place to do those investigations in a way that's consistent with the law. and it's important to have accountability. and that's what's so frustrating is that you've got doj right now, you've got prosecutors, you have investigators, you even have judges who are doing their best job that they can to look at what happened on january 6th

and elsewhere, and where people broke the law, to find them accountable and hold them accountable. just like they did for the people who did break the law in the summer of 2020 with the riots around the u.s.. doing that job should not create a congressional committee or other pundits who are out there targeting the people who are trying to maintain the law and order of the united states. and i really worry somebody, again, the extremes of what we're seeing in politics today are specifically trying to do just that. they're trying to increase the emotion. they're trying to increase the outrage. they're trying to make it personal. and i'm really worried where it's going to go. >> finding those trigger points and leading to violence, really important. thank you both, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> well, with the white house in turmoil over the documents investigation, we do tonight have some new cnn reporting about who has been interviewed by federal investigators. we're going to tell you all about it, next.

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about this. because there are signs the white house is shifting strategy as this crisis is continuing to intensify. what's going on? is there truly a shift or recognition they didn't handle it right the first time? >> i think there is a understanding they've been unsteady for the last eight or nine days. and that's maybe putting it charitably. and to some degree, what they have realized, or at least what they've started to coalesce around, is the idea that there are things they can and should do as the special counsel investigation really starts to kick into high gear to try and address at least the public perception of this issue. now, that does not mean they're going to engage on the myriad of questions that are still out there regarding how these documents ended up in the biden think tank in the first place, in the president's personal home in the first place, or any of the questions surrounding the two months while this review was ongoing before it became public knowledge. but it does mean they will make very clear that while they will not answer questions and they will fully cooperate, they

believe they have a pretty attractive foil in house republicans, who have launched two of their own investigations in that manner. in the course of the last two days, you've seen white house officials really ramp up critical offense when it comes to attacking house republicans are investigating this matter, particularly the house republicans who are not willing to investigate former president donald trump's own classified documents investigation that's been underway. trying to kind of coalesce around the idea that this is a political fight to have, as well as long as the investigation and the legal battle are underway. while they will not deal with the legal battle, they will not address the legal battle, and they will maintain they will fully cooperate with that ongoing legal matter, when it comes to the politics of this issue, they say two things. one, they're very willing to attack republicans head on when republicans go after the president. but also they're going to try and maintain some semblance of business as usual. you have not seen the president diverge from his schedule. you've not seen the president move away from any of the issues he was planning to talk about before all these issues came to light.

of course, the wildcard here is they don't know necessarily if anything new is going to come out at anytime in the future. that was certainly a problem they faced in that first week here. and officials acknowledge, they don't know if more investigation or more searches will come to part. they also don't know if more documents will come to light. but at this point in time, they feel they have at least steadied things, at least compared to where they were last week. >> i mean, it's quite a change. and you're right, it's only really been a week of having even had this story emerge. although this happened back in november, the first realization of it. phil, thank you so much for this. you know, i want to bring in now cnn senior justice correspondent evan pérez, who has new reporting tonight on the story. and senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, the former fbi deputy director. evan, let me start with you. because you heard the reporting from phil, and the idea that the words he used were unsteady at first, they weren't engaging. they were having a political response to the house republicans, who were going after it, and what they were doing. but you have some new reporting here tonight.

because in an initial review of the handling of the classified documents, they've now interviewed a personal attorney of president biden, is that right? >> that's right. this is a long time attorney for president biden, political campaign attorney. his name is pat moore. and he's based out of boston. and he was among the people who was at the pen biden center's private office that president biden was using during the trump years. and this is where the first set of documents were found back in november. and you know, as part of that initial review that was done by the u.s. attorney in chicago, john lausch, the fbi was doing the assessment, they interviewed pat moore and other people who were involved in the moving of the documents. and in the case of pat moore, he was there when they found these initial documents. now, among the things that we've learned is that, you know, they immediately obviously

returned those documents that they found, the classified documents, to the national archives. and our jamie gangel also reports that, you know, they, basically out of an abundance of caution, took a bunch of boxes, even if they don't have classified information, decided to return it, give it to the national archives, saying here, take a look at these. and then as a last measure, pat moore had had some documents, including personal speeches and some reference materials, taken to his office back in boston. he had the national archives come and retrieve those documents. you know, what you're getting a picture of there is, you know, a biden team that is, you know, i think trying to draw a contrast with the way trump has handled his own documents issues, right. and they're trying to draw a picture of cooperation. now as you know, they have a new special counsel who's going to be doing an investigation. they may need to come back and interview some of these same people. we know that the initial interview with pat moore, for instance, was not done with a

302, as you know, which is the way these interviews are usually memorialized. >> that's an important point. the idea of not necessarily reinventing the wheel, andrew, but with a special counsel now assigned to oversee all of this, there might be a shift in the way that the interviews are even approached, maybe going back to fill in some gaps, maybe even the first time having questions. i wonder what sort of questions do you anticipate the investigators now asking? because everyone keeps saying, well, you know there's a stark contrast, biden is cooperative, and he's saying he's cooperative. investigators, obviously part of their nature and job is to be skeptical, even with a statement like that. what are the questions they might be asking at this time? >> sure, so you can imagine that the agents who were working under mr. lausch were really trying to get their hands around the big picture and the basics of what happened. what the folks who are now

working for rob hur, the special counsel, will do is likely reproach any those witnesses that have spoken. and give them an in-depth interview to get the entirety of the scope of their knowledge of and involvement with these documents. whether it's from the office of the house. it's going to first be -- you think of it as chain of custody type questions. they're going to say to someone who was present when the documents were discovered in the pen biden office, they're gonna say, okay, where were you in relation to the closet where the documents were found, what did they look like, what were they stored in, was that storage container sealed with tape or with other materials, you know, who lifted it out of the closet, what did you do next, you know, where did you then keep these documents until the national archives folks came to retrieve them. all down to the details of every movement involving those things. and then broader scope, people

who were in that office who can talk to you about the scope of people who had access to the office over time. people who can talk about president biden's habits in terms of how often was he at the office. and when he was there, where did he sit? and did you ever -- did he ever ask you to get things of the closet for him, things of that nature. so, it's going to be very broad and specific and probably very wide in scope. >> you know, speaking of the scope of this, evan, you know, the questions of course are going to be about who had access, but who also accessed it. >> right. >> there is a distinction between who had access, and who actually accessed it. and a lot of talk about hunter biden, who is already a topic of conversation, you know, even before president biden won the election, let alone now. we know that there is a republican-led congress that's looking into hunter biden and investigations. but they're still the doj investigation. we can't forget about that. so, where does that doj probe

into the hunter biden laptop and beyond, what does that actually stand right now? >> yeah, it's a bit of a mystery. the one thing we know is the u.s. attorney in delaware, who is a trump appointee who was held over to handle this, is now essentially the decision-maker. he is going to be the one who makes a decision as to whether to go forward with charges that would include tax issues that hunter biden tax violations, that hunter biden is alleged to have had, as well as a charge related to a gun. hunter biden describes that he was obviously using drugs during a period in which he went and bought a gun. and when you buy a gun and fill out the form, the background check forms, you have to attest that you are not addicted to drugs. he has since in his memoir and his interviews said that he was. so, that is clearly, you know, it would seem some kind of violations. so again, those are the two things that we know investigators have honed in on. now, there could be other things.

but the republicans are asking a much broader set of questions, including about business ventures they were going to ground, and whether his father, whether his father, certainly, president biden had any business interest in some of the things hunter was involved in. and other members of the family. >> important to think about that scope of it. andrew, what's your reaction to the doj investigation and probe? i mean, we were hearing bits and pieces. there's obviously been complaints about have people covered the story enough, is hunter biden, the biden family getting a pass? it's become a politically -charged issue, even if there is not a lot of meat on the bone to go and work with, what do you say? >> well, you know, i'm -- i can't say much about the politics. that's likely to kind of continue fanning the flames, creating issues, maybe where

none really exist for the purpose of political advantage, that's how these things seem to work out. on that side. but on the legal side, i can tell you that if the department of justice and the fbi have taking a hard look at this, and what they're walking away with or considering toward the end of the investigation, if that's where we are, is what seems like a fairly minor false, potential false statement charge and some tax issues. that is a far, far distance from where the primary concern from several of the legislators on the hill is still focused. that is, you know, night and day from a case based on political corruption issues or illegal, you know, business ventures, and influence peddling and things of that nature. and let's keep in mind also, laura, that so many of the things that people think of in that lane of, let's say, influence peddling, those practices are unsavory, possibly unethical. not things that we want associated with our political

leadership. but oftentimes, not specifically illegal. it takes you back to those political corruption statutes, which we all know are very tied to the idea of being able to prove in court a specific quid pro quo. you know, the acceptance of benefit in return for doing some official act is generally the way that's framed. and those are tough cases to make. so, it sounds like the government could be pretty far from what people initially thought they would find in this case. >> i mean, when you mention quid pro quo, i think everyone remembers the first impeachment and the idea of being difficult, even impeachment managers, being able to try to make a case. obviously, outside of the court of law. but we will continue to follow what's happening here. it's important to know how all of this will resolve and in what capacity. we'll follow the story. thank you so much, both of you. speaking of the criminal system, and some really bad news happening, we've all been following the story of the missing massachusetts mother of three.

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>> well, there's been a major development tonight in the case of missing massachusetts mom ana walshe. her husband brian has now been charged with her murder. he will be arraigned on the murder charge tomorrow. and the police investigation has turned up possible evidence, including a bloody knife in the couple's home, as well as a hacksaw and apparent bloodstains at a trash collection site. sources also say that walshe searched the internet for information on how to dismember and dispose of a body of a 115-pound woman. cnn's john miller is back with me now. truly disturbing to think about

all that is happening right now, and the developments at play. you know, what is the probable cause that authorities seem to have today that would go from the misleading investigators charge to murder? >> so, laura i think it's what happened in between, which is with the misleading, they told us that there, you know, in their court documents, that there was blood found in the basement, that there was a bloody knife found in the basement, that he deceived them about where he was and what he was doing. and then they found out where he really was, and what he was doing, buying cleaning supplies and so on. if you combine that with what has happened since, which is another location, a trash transfer station, additional physical evidence, the scientific piece of putting those two things together and making dna matches and things like a bone fragments, and whatever other other evidence they might have collected, is what brings these things together from misleading to a warrant for his arrest for

murder. >> and as we sit here tonight, we're not aware that a body has been found of this woman, ana walshe. and yet, they are proceeding with a murder charge nonetheless. >> so laura, they're relying on two important things, maybe three. number one, the circumstantial evidence. if this is not the story, take a look at the story he gave. which one holds up? two, the scientific evidence. what does the massachusetts state police lab able to bring together in front of a jury, in able to say this would be statistically impossible to be otherwise? and three, precedent. this d. a.'s office is the one that had the other case, the first one in massachusetts history, where they convicted someone back in 2003 for a 1998 murder where they never recovered a body. another husband who killed another wife. >> you know, thinking about all of that in context, i do wonder at tomorrow's hearing, are we going to get some idea of a motive here? not that there's a justification, which is always

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>> a virginia school district is under fire this week. the fairfax county public school system is accused of allegedly failing to notify students of their national merit scholarship recognition in a timely manner. now, that district is under investigation by the attorney generals office in virginia for unlawful discrimination and violation of the virginia human rights act. the governor, glenn youngkin, weighing in on the incident over the weekend, accusing the district of choosing equity over merit. >> they have a maniacal focus on equal outcomes for all students at all costs. this overarching effort for equal outcomes is hurting virginia's children. and it's hurting even worse the children that they aspire to

help. >> we have reached out to the district for comment. i want to bring in virginia attorney general jason miyares to the conversation. welcome, attorney general. i'm glad that you're here. this might not be an obvious connection for some people to think about, the idea of failing to tell the commended students about their recognition and national merit status. and then having a connection for a violation of the virginia human rights act. what is the correlation here? >> well, this is what we know. we know that fairfax county public schools hired an equity consultant, paid them about 455,000 dollars for nine months of work. and one of their recommendations for the school district was equal outcomes for every student, without exception. that's their words, not mine. and that included a directive that said to get to these outcomes, it may mean treating students possibly unequally. so what we've seen is over 70%

of these national merit commendations have gone to asian american students. and i want to be clear, there are two branches of one investigation. the start of one investigation actually was the admission policy at thomas jefferson high school, it's a magnet school, you have to apply. we saw him go to an equity based admission standards. which led to a close to 20 point drop in enrollment in asian american students. and i heard so many complaints from parents that their children, they felt, were being discriminated against. i had one parent say my daughter's done everything right since the first grade. but she's been denied her dream of attending thomas jefferson high school, not because of anything she's done, but simply because who she is. because she's korean american. i think that goes against all of our belief in our society, that we believe in the equality of opportunity. i think that's so important. and for so many of these students, english is not even the primary language spoken at home. and i know as a child of an immigrant, my mother fled cuba penniless and homeless, education is a doorway to the

american dream. it breaks my heart that some of the students have not gotten this proper recognition. and all of the scholarship opportunities that possibly comes with it, the national merit award. >> certainly, the national merit award, one in which many students would love to have a feather in their cap and to express it, and i understand the concerns you raise about notions of equity. and there being a tension between what the friction is. but i do wonder, in terms of the human rights element of it, what is the act that has happened, in relation to the commendation status in particular, that has led to you to have an investigation into this being related to the admissions process more broadly? what is that connection? >> well, you are not allowed to deny anyone a benefit under the virginia human rights act, simply because of their racial or ethnic background. >> so, okay, i want to cut you off for a second. hold on, i want to make sure i'm clear for the audience's sake as well.

so, the connection, the statement is, there is essentially some notion that this was an intentional act, to fail to alert these students that they had the commendation? >> well, we know from the public reporting that one of the parents of a child who notified the school, why don't you notify? they said we didn't want other students to have their feelings hurt. and the real world consequences of this as we know at least one virginia college that says you get to attend our school tuition free, it's a private school, if you are a national merit commendation recipient. all we require is a certificate. the principal who is in charge of providing that notification to the students, and that's a value close to $100, 000, and i can tell you, as somebody who worked all four years of college, how are you going to pay for college is much more scary in many ways then which college you get into. the idea that we have by one estimate, 800 different scholarships availed to those, and those national merit award recipients, and they weren't

even notified and didn't even have the chance to apply. i have to tell you, the time with skyrocketing student debt, i think it's pretty noteworthy the schools didn't notify the schools. that's what we're trying to determine. >> i do have a statement from the superintendent of the district as well. and they say the current understanding around the delay in notifying students, and i'll read it for you, our current understanding of the delay, and obviously thomas jefferson high school, this fall was a unique situation due to human error. and we'll leave it to our investigative review to draw any final conclusions. what do you make of the idea that this being initially spoken about as human error? how does that play into your investigation, and do you have some skepticism to that point? >> well, we're going to find out. that's why we're doing the investigation. we know that the initial report was this was limited to one high school. and it was human error at this one high school. now we find out that in fairfax alone, it's over seven high schools that have been subjected this. we know it's also happening in loudoun county. and apparently, this has

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