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house republican leaders giving freshman new york congressman george santos not one, but two committee assignments, despite the countless lies he told during his campaign. he joins other controversial colleagues as well who also have new committee assignments tonight. we'll talk about all that and what it tells us about speaker mccarthy's hold on the gop, or maybe their hold on him. but i want to bring in democratic congressman ritchie torres of new york. he is one who has been calling on the federal election commission to launch an investigation into santos over allegations that he broke campaign finance laws. congressman, thank you for being here this evening. this is certainly a congressman, a colleague who has a lot of questions surrounding him.
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i wonder, you have questions about in particular the more than $700,000 that he seems to have spent on his campaign. why do you ask the s.e.c. to investigate this in particular? >> well, of all the 535 members of congress, both in the senate and the house, there is no one who pose as greater threat to the integrity of congress than george santos. we know he has lied about every aspect of his life, but even worse than his lying is his possible law-breaking. and for me, the $700,000 question is where did all the money come from? a decade ago, george santos was a wage earner at a call center accumulating thousands of dollars in debt and facing repeat evictions. as late as 2020 he reported a salary as much as $55,000. miraculously in 2021 and 2022, he became a multimillionaire. he claims to have earned millions of dollars from clients, yet he disclosed the
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names of none of the clients on his congressional disclosure as required by federal law. and that's why i filed an ethics complaint against george santos for falsifying his financial disclosure. but we're finally getting a clearer sense of exactly how the money flowed through various entities ultimately into the santos campaign. >> for so many who are looking at this issue, congressman, they're wondering whether there is a mechanism to have somebody who has been accused of lying, who has the allegations you're speaking about and the questions you've raised, to have them no longer be a part of congress. and as you said, you call him one of the biggest dangers to our democracy, but also to our national security. there is a distinction there. the integrity of congress and also national security. on that latter point, what is the nature of your concern there? >> look, when you're a member of congress, you receive security clearance by virtue of your position.
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so george santos has access to sensitive information, and he's about to sit on the small business community, which is an important committee. it oversees the ppp program, the payment protection program, which is one of the largest government programs the federal government has ever enacted. and can a fraud like santos be trusted to root out rampant fraud in the ppp program? the answer is obviously no. and keep in mind house republicans have defunded the office of congressional ethics at a time when george santos threatens to corrupt the institution from within. >> we're talking about obviously and the concerns you've raised, so many are sharing these similar concerns about the security clearance, about the access, the idea that he was even placed on a committee was surprising to some. there was concern and question whether mccarthy would ultimately seat him as a member of congress on a committee or essentially render him legislatively impotent in terms
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of being able to be on these committees. i want to play for you what congressman barry loudermilk had to say there was a question my colleague manu raju asked him about having placed him on a committee. listen to this. >> he hasn't committed a crime. he hasn't been indicted on anything at this point, and in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty. so we're going to treat him like any other member and keep an eye on him. >> there has been precedent before, like steve king lost his committee assignments after a controversy. what's the difference here? >> i think it's the nature of what was said. it was feeling like some of the things others have said in the past were condemning of other people. i mean, basically, he said some things about himself. >> do you buy that distinction, congressman? >> we know that george santos defrauded his way to the united states congress. he has no business being in congress, let alone on a committee. and keep in mind there is a
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disconnect between local republicans who have heard directly from voters and who have called on george santos to resign whereas republican leadership, particularly speaker mccarthy needs every vote that he can get, and he needs george santos to remain in power. so speaker mccarthy and house republican leadership have no incentive to drain the santos swamp in washington, d.c. . >> congressman torres, thank you so much for your time this evening. >> of course. i want to turn now to former republican congressman joe walsh, karen finney and eva mckend as well. i want to pick up on that latter point, karen. the idea of congressman loudermilk, the distinction being well, one was talking about someone else, and the other talking about himself. so there is distinction there. he is talking about himself not as an insult. he is talking about himself and professing to be something other than he actually was. what is the distinction that's happening here? >> there is not a distinction actually.
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the distinction is political convenience as far as near i can tell. the other point about one of the things that makes him a danger to national security is given how many lies he's told and these financial entanglements, he is also very vulnerable to being blackmailed. and that's one of the things that constantly, when you go for security clearance, that's actually one of the things they look at, what's your financial situation, because they want to know if you could -- if you are somebody could be vulnerable to being blackmailed. and look, the other thing that is surprising me, this is a moment where kevin mccarthy actually could have shown some spine in my opinion and said you know what? we're going to let the ethics committee process and these legal cases play themselves out. and as they're doing so, we're going to not seat you on a committee. that actually -- now what he has done is he has given us a talking point every single time to talk about the lack of seriousness of this congress and the fact that clearly, kevin
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mccarthy has such a narrow margin that he had to put a liar and put him on a committee in charge of lots and lots of dollars. >> in fact, on that very notion, and somebody i wanted to hear more from about this area was senator mitch mcconnell. i've been wondering what he had to say about the idea of the spine you're speaking about. here he is. >> hopefully, mccarthy was not so weakened by all this that he can't be an effective speaker. i'm pulling for him. i think he was the right guy for the job, and i'm hoping it's going to settle down and work out well. >> i mean, maybe weakened by the concessions, joe? or weakened now to karen's larger point, if you not only give away the keys to the castle, but now you're saying hey, listen, i don't care who's inside, is that a problem? >> this is who he is, laura. i think we all make a big mistake, and we should, because it's good tv, focus on santos. we focus on marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar being put
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on the oversight committee. we focus on the 10 to 20 super crazies, but kevin mccarthy has an entire caucus full of election deniers. an entire caucus full of january 6th sympathizers. >> hold on. i'm having a problem hearing you. apparently the audience, and you're saying things really important. i'm going to get your mic change. i'm giving you the nod, yes, that's a great point. i'm going turn to eva who i want to hear from as well. we'll come right back to you. eva, the point of vulnerability and how this looks. washington, d.c. and politics more broadly run on a business in some respects of optics. does this look right for republican voters? >> listen, i think that there is a situation basically where mccarthy probably felt as though he had no choice. but it does seem curious, right? congressman israel by i think some metrics, the accusations against him were not even as bad
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as the territory that santos is in. but this is where things are. we know that political fates change pretty dramatically. and clearly, they think that santos is someone that they are going to need for quite some time. >> i want to come back to you -- >> i do want to mention, this idea of top tier committees and committees that aren't as important, i think that that characterization is really problematic. if you are sitting on small business, if you are overseeing science and space, those things are equally as important too. >> of course. >> so this idea that oh, we're just going to give him lower tier committees and they don't matter, they're not consequential, i think is really, really problematic. >> it's a problem overall. main street oftentimes more important to our economy than wall street for so many reasons in this world. and i have to ask you on this and come back to you. you mention the idea of congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and her committee assignments as well. talk about the importance of this. because she is now going to be on the homeland security
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committee, which was formed just for the audience's sake after the 9/11 attacks. but she has pushed conspiracy theories in the past even surrounding 9/11. and i think it's a really important point to underscore that this is the committee she'll have access to and information now on that very notion. in fact, i want to play for the audience here some of the comments that she has said in the past about 9/11. >> but we had witnessed 9/11, right? we witnessed 9/11. the terrorist attack in new york, and the plane that crashed in pennsylvania, and the so-called plane that crashed into the pentagon. it's odd there is never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. but anyways, i won't dive into the 9/11 conspiracy. >> "so-called" were the words she used. >> the committee formed because of 9/11. and now a person sits tonight committee who questioned our government's involvement
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in 9/11. i mean, that perfectly, though, laura, crystallizes where my former party is. marjorie taylor greene is not republican fringe. we were talking about it before. we focus so much on greene and gosar and boebert, as we should, because they're crazy, but kevin mccarthy has an entire caucus of election deniers. marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar are election deniers and they're on the oversight committee, and that's horrible. but good luck trying to find some republican to put on that committee who is not an election denier. that's really mccarthy's problem. >> and there is all this discourse now about the great transformation of congresswoman greene. and i'm sorry, i don't really see it as such. i see it as the transformation of the republican party and what republicans sort of view as acceptable. >> but it's also -- let's just take a step back. kevin mccarthy put the national security of the united states of america on the table as a chip to be bargained with, bartered
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with for his speakership. that's what he did. because the homeland security committee also does election security. and she is an eleection denier. marjorie taylor greene has also said there is a jewish cabal that has their own laser, and that's actually what started the california wildfires in 2018. and this woman will now have a security clearance and have access to sensitive information about our country. somebody who thinks -- who doesn't believe in 9/11 issues said, and i think you made a great point, joe, you know, how do you even find -- do a committee without election deniers? you now have four on this oversight committee. >> i mean, when you think about the idea, to your point, eva, the idea of the importance of each and every committee, it's not just about who's on it, but what information they have access to, and what could be possibly relayed. you talk about homeland security in particular. you talk about what could actually make its way into the
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public sphere in ways it never ought to be. are those concerns ruminating among democrats right now on the hill? >> i think so. i'm really curious to see what becomes of the house oversight committee chaired by congressman james comer. i have known him a long time when he was a ranking member of the committee, he would often talk about how there were areas of bipartisanship where he could work with democrats, specifically on the area of postal reform, that there was room for democrats and republicans to work together on oversight. i haven't heard him say that as much since he is -- became the chair. but we'll have to see what eventually becomes of that committee. it's -- he'll and many others will have awesome power, the power to subpoena and to hold these high profile committee hearings. >> the responsibility to protect and safeguard nothing to sneeze at. thank you so much, you guys. we do have investigations continuing, including around
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as criticism continues to mount over the biden administration's handling of the discovery of classified documents at the president's former private office and at his wilmington home, a top official saying tonight the white house will continue to cooperate and fully with the doj's investigation. and a biden aide also saying the president has, quote, confidence in his team. joining me now is chris whipple, author of the brand-new book "the fight of his life: inside joe biden's white house." what a timely book to have right now, chris. a lot of people are looking at this and wondering about what they're calling this unforced
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error in some respects. but you got the press secretary, karine jean-pierre saying there is confidence from the biden administration. in fact, i'm going to play for you a little bit about what she had to say and get your reaction. >> i can tell you this, that the president and his team rightfully took action when they learned that the documents existed. they reached out to the archives. they reached out to the department of justice. his mood has been very clear. i saw him this morning. he is very focused. i travelled with him this weekend. he wants to make sure that he is continuing and we are continuing to deliver for the american people. >> well, she talks about his mood and his attitude about the matter. in your time with the president, how do you think he's handling this crisis behind the scenes? >> well, i think he's frustrated, you know. it hasn't been the white house's finest hour by any means. it's a drama they really didn't need. but in some ways, you know, it
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doesn't surprise me. i spent the last two years speaking with almost every member of biden's inner circle. and while this white house may look like a fairly well-run machine on the outside, it turns out there is a lot more drama behind closed doors than you might imagine. and i write about it in my book, the disagreement over the afghanistan withdrawal, tensions between the president and kamala harris, a fraught relationship between joe biden and his secret service. there is a lot of that playing out behind the scenes. again, even though things may look smooth on the outside. i think in this case what we're seeing is a real tension, a disagreement between communications people and the lawyers. the lawyers don't want any information out there. and i think people like karine jean-pierre would like to be more forthcoming. but it's a tricky balancing act to pull off. >> i'm really intrigued by
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what's going on behind the scenes. you're talking about what appears to be obviously on the surface and the well-oiled machine versus what you're writing about in your book. and to that point, you reveal in the book not only that there are some tensions between him and of course the vice president of the united states, but also with his secret service. there is some suspicion there. you write in light of january 6th, it wasn't just maga writ large that bothered biden. he felt its influence all too close to home in his secret service detail. lately, the secret service had looked both incompetent and politicized, wary of his own secret service agents, the president no longer spoke freely in their presence. that's pretty stunning to think about somebody who knows that he has to entrust his own life with them, has some distance. >> it was stunning to me when i found this out in the course of my reporting. you know, it is a fraught
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relationship between joe biden and some of his secret service detail. it's some of the most dramatic close-up example of the one thing that has surprised joe biden more than anything else during his presidency, and that is the staying power of trumpism. it's -- he thought that this would fade over time. he thought he had a mandate. he thought he could put it in the rear view mirror with seven million more votes than donald trump in 2020, but it stayed, despite trump's troubles. and of course, you know, he saw it within some of his -- with some of his secret service detail. it's a much bigger group than he used to have, and while it may not be surprising because after all, law enforcement is full of deeply conservative people, it's still -- it bothered him, and it
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bothered him because you know, it seems to me that a president has a right to not only be protected by his secret service detail, but also to have his secrets kept. and i'm not sure joe biden thought they would. >> talk about the relationship with him and the vice president kamala harris. i'm intrigued by your book on this note in particular. >> yeah, this is really a fascin fascinating complicated relationship. there is no question that joe biden and kamala harris had a very -- they really had a warm bond in the beginning. they were thrown together by covid. they were in meetings together all the time. joe biden valued her input and gave her important national security roles. i tell the story about how on the eve of the invasion of ukraine, she met privately with volodymyr zelenskyy and warned him that the russians were coming not only for ukraine, but for him and his family. so he gave her important assignments. but they ran into trouble over
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her portfolio. a number of her allies were complaining that the northern triangle and voting rights were just mission impossible. and then word got back to the president that the second gentleman doug emhoff had been complaining about this around town, and that really didn't sit well. so it's a fascinating, complicated relationship. >> well, the book certainly explores that and so much else. of course there are a lot of things happening right now in the white house and how one is able to grapple. maybe there will be some insight into how he will and the administration will go about dealing with what's happening right now. chris whipple, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. well, the tampa bay buccaneers' wide receiver russell gauge has been released from the hospital after he was injured in last night's game against the cowboys. we have all the details on it, next.
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tampa bay buccaneers wide receiver russell gage is out of the hospital tonight. he suffered a concussion near the end of monday's nfl wild card playoff game. he was swarmed by medical staff after struggling to stand up on the field. he was tweeting earlier today, "i appreciate all of the text, calls and prayers you have all expressed toward my family and i. i just wanted to let you all know i'm doing great and in great spirits. thank you." and with the buccaneers' loss, the cowboys ending their season. it's also raising the question about the future of star quarterback tom brady. to discuss all this contributor bob costas. bob, good to see you tonight. you know, i have to tell you, when we saw the injury of russell gage last night, a comment you've made to me in the
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past several weeks came to mind, the idea of it's possible to make the sport safer, but not entirely safe. and injuries like we saw seeming to be more and more part of the game. and i wonder if from that perspective the fact that this is a sport where people are coming to expect unfortunately injuries. are the players protected in their contracts or incentivized to play hurt? >> well, there are some contracts, not all, but a great many contracts in the nfl are not guaranteed. even if they seem to be multi-year contracts, they're renewable at the team's discretion along the way. there are some contracts, damar hamlin's was one, as a matter of fact, where you actually receive less compensation if you miss games for being injured, which creates some incentive for players to try and cover up or play through injuries. now in the case of damar hamlin,
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obviously the league will foot all of his medical bills. and because he's such an inspirational story, they're going to take care of him, whether he can play football or not after this, he'll be an ambassador. he'll have some kind of role. and any injury that's incurred while you're an active player, then the league is responsible for that coverage. however, it's not widely known that you have to play in the league for at least three years to be eligible for post career medical coverage. and that coverage lasts only five years. and many of the worst effects of playing football, the brain trauma, the cognitive decline, the neurological damage, much of that manifests itself only many years down the road. and it's already obvious. it's been proven in the league and eventually acknowledged that a very significant number of its players will have some measure of dementia or alzheimer's or neurological difficults, statistically at a much higher
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rate than the general population. but at least that's known now. previously, they were in the same position as tobacco companies, denying any connection between their product and its deleterious effects. now everybody is advised, and they make their own calculus about risks and reward. there are significant rewards. there are also significant risks. those risks are brought to mind by the fact that the damar hamlin situation, as rare as it is, was on a nationally televised game. and so was this one, also on a monday night during the play-offs. but stuff like the gauge injury, not so much the hamlin situation, but the gage injury, that is not that common in football. but it just had a larger audience at this point. and what we all have to do, we make our peace with it one way or another. there are some people who will not play, even though they're athletically gifted, or who retire early. there are some fans and some who cover the game who may feel
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ambivalence about it, but they're drawn by the undeniable drama and excitement, the shared experience. these play-off games have recently been tremendously exciting and interesting. so it's kind of a dance that people do to varying degrees to reconcile what they have to know by now about the nature of the game with its undeniable appeal. >> and part of the appeal are the actual players themselves who take on a life outside of the sport obviously. you've got celebrities like, well, tom brady, a star quarterback, and even his return to football this year alone. i know no one wants to read the tea leaves, have a crystal ball. those who predicted it before end up right one week, wrong the next week about tom brady returning to football. any sense of whether he in fact will return to the sport, given all the factors you just laid out? >> we'd just be guessing. i don't think, given that tom is a pocket quarterback and always
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been very adept, had only one significant injury in his career, very adept at avoiding significant contact. i don't think the safety issue would be the major factor in his decision. no matter what, he's got options, including if he just wants to go sit on a beach somewhere for a year. he's got a television option. fox has a contract waiting for him that is stratospheric in nature, even dwarfing his football compensation. there are teams that will want him to play for them if he feels like he doesn't have as good a shot at the super bowl with the bucs as he once did where he won it once and came close the second time. but this year they were under .500. there are teams that he could probably go off and be part of. the las vegas raiders have been mentioned. derek carr's days as their starting quarterback apparently over. whether he wants to align himself with the outlaw raider brand is another thing given his generally positive image. and the most obvious one would be the san francisco 49ers, a very good team, still alive in the play-offs.
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that's where he grew up. that's the team he grew up rooting for. he likes to tell the story being a little kid and watching joe montana at candlestick park for the 49ers back in the day. but there is just one problem. the 49ers quarterback brock pu purdy, the last player taken in the last round of the draft. the so-called mr. irrelevant as they good-naturedly dub the last player taken in the draft is doing just great, and brady should be able to relate like that. because unlike bred's most accomplished contemporary, peyton manning, who was the number one pick in the draft and highly touted, tom was the 199th player taken. not the last, but close to the last, and then goes on to become the most accomplished quarterback in nfl history. if the 49ers were in desperate need of a quarterback, which apparently they are not, that would perhaps be the perfect closing chapter to go back home where he grew up, with the team he grew up rooting for and write the last chapter in his career, but that avenue doesn't appear to be open. >> well, a lot others do, bob costas. i want to point out the
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difference between the future forsomeone like tom brady and to your first point, the idea that many players only get one or two years and are fighting for a chance to even have medical coverage after they leave. really important point. thank you so much. >> correct. thank you, laura. >> thank you. well, because of a mega drought in the colorado river, scottsdale, arizona will stop providing water to neighboring communities. and one of those communities wants the water, is now suing to keep the taps flowing. yes, in this country, next. brely u level up u won't take a time-out one dose of ubrelvy works fast it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within 2 hours without worrying if it's too late or where you are unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. migraine pain relief starts with u learn how abbvie could help you save. ask about ubrelvy,
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well, there is a fight over water that's heating up between two arizona cities. residents of rio verde foothills suing neighbor city scottsdale for cutting off their water. now rio verde had been buying water from scottsdale, getting it trucked in as a matter of fact from a private supplier, until the first of this year. that's when scottsdale closed up the tap for the unincorporated neighborhood in an effort to conserve water for its own residents in scottsdale, which they had warned they would ultimately do. they finally, of course, announced the end of the deal late last year. that's when cnn's lucy kafanov took a trip to check out the situation. here she is speaking with one of the owners of a water hauling company that had been delivering water supply to rio verde. >> there is no question about it. the drought is reality. rio verde is the first domino to fall because of the drought that
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we're in. >> are people taking it seriously enough? >> they're not. water is more precious than you realize. and once you go to your faucet and you turn it on and there is no water, then its value becomes real. >> i want to bring in two rio verde foothill residents who are now dealing with the lack of water, kristy jackman and cody rehm join me now. welcome to both of you. i'll begin with you, christy, on this matter. please jump in the conversation as well, cody. how have you been getting water since the scottsdale water was cut off? >> you should start with cody on that one, because i actually have a well. >> you have a well. >> cody, how are you getting your water? >> i'm not getting water. there was one gracious donation by a friend of mine that had access to some water, but that
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met its goal, and that was a one-time donation. that bought us about a week or two. >> we're hearing from "the new york times" reporting that people are using rainwater, for example, to flush toilet, using paper plates, do anything they can to use less water. i'm curious, christy, with your well, do you still have an impact? are you still impacted by not having the access from scottsdale, arizona? >> i think the impact is on the whole community. there is well homes and there is hauled water homes, and we're neighbors and we're friends. and we don't want anybody to go without water. >> well, when you look at this, and of course there was the warning. we mentioned this in the beginning, that there had been a warning or a notification, so to speak from scottsdale that there would be a water stoppage. we talked about this back in october of 2021. they also seem to have made it clear back in 2015 that this arrangement of them supplying water, which apparently is actually funded by their own
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residents, would ultimately come to an end. when you learned of this, did you take it seriously or thought there would be some way for them to restructure it, cody, in a way to allow access to continue? >> did they send that to me? i've never received that from the city of scottsdale. >> have you ever received that, christy? >> um, we have been told that, yes, they were not going to continue to supply us forever, but we were also told that if we supplied them with water, they would process it for additional fee. we've met that criteria. we've had two different offers given to them that would completely cover our water and the water usage, and we would pay them to process that, and they are still refusing to work with us. we need cooperation from the city while we get our long-term plan, which is at core, in place. >> cody, i cut you off before,
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but i do want to hear your response, especially the idea that you were not seen these warnings. but i wonder how much more money you're having to pay, or you had to pay in order to even have access still. >> well, i just second what christy said. you know, there was discussion of this. and at the city level, it was always if someone could bring us water on your behalf, then we would process that water. you would pay a fee, and you would continue to be able to receive water at the historic location that you've received it in the past. my water bill will go from approximately $300 a month to over 1100 to $1200, over five times my electric bill this the summer. this is unacceptable. this shouldn't happen in this country. >> wow, those numbers are stunning, when you think about that, christy. this is not sustainable, as you mentioned. you're talking about a plan. what is the next step here? is it just waiting to see if there will be cooperation?
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what is the plan? there is a lawsuit now, but what is the plan to meet the immediate needs of water? >> unfortunately, we have to wait for the lawsuit there is a law in arizona that's on the books that states that a municipality that serves an unincorporated area water may not discontinue that. and that is what we're asking them to do is just follow the law. >> christy jackman, won't continue to follow this story and watch what happens. >> thank you for having us. well, there is an incident that could have ended in a disaster, and that's the understatement of the year. a near collision between two planes at jfk airport in new york. the new details on the latest headache in the aviation industry is next. hes? you could be using the wrong detergent. and wasting up to 20 gallons of water. skip the rinse with finish quantum. its activelift technology provides an unbeatable clean on 24 hour dried-on stains.
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here is a question a lot of people continue to ask, especially recently. what is going on with the aviation industry. authorities are now investigating what led to a near collision between two packed planes at new york's jfk on friday. here is cnn aviation correspondent pete montine. >> tonight questions from investigators following the near disasters on the runway at jfk. the national transportation safety board tells cnn interviews are ongoing after a delta airlines 737 and an american airlines 777 were on a collision course friday night. >> american airlines hold your position! >> air traffic control recordings show how the american flight was told to go to the end
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of jfk's runway 4 left but instead crossed that runway in the path of the delta flight taking off. a mistake caught by air traffic controllers with just seconds to spare. >> delta 1943, cancel takeoff plans, delta 1943, cancel takeoff plans. >> the delta slammed on the brakes stopping a thousand feet before where the american airlines flight had just crossed the runway. >> it would have been catastrophic had a collision taken place. >> reporter: former ntsb managing director peter gulls thinks investigators will now dig into whether the fault lies of the american flight, apparently confused over directions from air traffic control. >> the last clearance we were given, we were cleared to cross, is that correct? >> american 106 heavy, we're departing runway 4 left. i guess we'll listen to the tapes. but you were supposed to depart runway 4 left.
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you're currently holding short of 31 left. >> reporter: after the incident, the american airlines flight continued on to its destination of london heathrow. the airline has not said why it did not go back to the gate. in a new statement, american airlines says it is conducting a full internal review and cooperating with the national transportation safety board in their investigation. >> there were plenty of visual cues for this flight crew to know that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> reporter: meanwhile, the faa has not said how will it fix its computer system that failed last week, causing a nationwide ground stop and thousand of delays and cancellations. sources tell cnn that transportation secretary pete buttigieg is pushing for upgrades faster than planned, even still, the faa has no senate confirmed administrator leading the agency. >> we're going to clear the runway. so there will be an administrator, and that administrator can do his job. >> reporter: there is one issue
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with the american airlines flight continuing on to its destination of london heathrow. experts are worried that means the audio from the cockpit voice recorder might be lost. typically, they record for only two hours. the ntsb wants that up to 25 hours, something the faa has not acted on. laura? >> pete muntean, thank you so much. and thank you all for watching. our coverage continues.
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