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a continued investigation has done a lot to obtain an arrest warrant charging brian walshe, with the murder of his wife. >> this has been going on. poppy is off today. it's kaitlan and i. >> he's talking about a massachusetts mom missing for more than two weeks. now the husband of ana walshe faces arraignment on a murder charge in just hours. a deadly helicopter crash also happening in the suburbs of kyiv just hours ago. ukraine's interior minister and three children are among the 16 people who were killed. police confirm a failed
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republican candidate in new mexico visited homes of democratic officials before targeting those homes with gun fire. this morning, still no word on how lisa marie presley died. the coroner deferred a ruling asking for more time to investigate. a busy wednesday but first the tragedy on the outskirts of ukraine's capital. 16 people are dead after a helicopter crashed near a kindergarten and residential buildings east of kyiv. three children are among the dead with 15 more being treated in the hospital. the mayor of kyiv now reacting. >> this is a tragedy. i'm not ready to give -- we inves investigate what happens. >> let's get straight to clarissa ward live at the scene in ukraine for us.
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good morning, what's going on? what's the latest there? >> reporter: don, you can probably see behind me the smoldering wreckage of that kindergarten where the helicopter hit this morning, tragically killing 16 people, all nine people on board the helicopter were killed, including the interior minister, also the deputy interior minister, the secretary of state of the interior of ministry, as well as six others and on the ground, tragically at least three children and their parents who were just taking them to school, don. as if this country has not been through enough tragedy and horror in this war, now you have this on top of it. authorities are saying they don't know exactly how this happened or why this happened. but we've been talking to a lot of people in the area and the visibility was terrible this morning. one man told us he was outside smoking a cigarette and he could hear the crash but couldn't see anything because of the fog.
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another woman told us after she heard the crash she ran down to the kindergarten and saw children being taken out of the building. some of them still literally on fire. so this is an absolutely horrifying attack, clearly having a big impact on so many people around here. there's been a constant stream of people laying flowers, taking a minute to come and pay their respects. you can see those rescue workers still going through the republican trying to ascertain how this happened. they've been picking out large chunks of the debris, parts of the hospital that i think, from what we understand, sort of clipped that initial part of the kindergarten there. and then crashed just over on the other side where we were earlier this morning. we saw at least four bodies covered in those gold foil blankets. but as we said, just a tragic day, 16 people dead, among them
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at least three children, don. >> just awful, clarissa. thank you. also this morning, in a matter of hours here in the united states, brian walshe is going to be arraigned in massachusetts for the murder of his wife. the mother of three went missing at the start of the year, and police uncovered a trail of possible evidence in the case, including blood, bloody knife, computer searches by mr. walshe on how to dismember and dispose of a 115 pound woman's body and a hacksaw and apparent bloodstains at a trash collection site. jason carroll is live for us outside the courthouse in quincy, massachusetts. what are we expecting to happen now? because i know he was arrested earlier on misleading investigators. what are we expecting today? >> reporter: kaitlan, as you know, we've heard so many disturbing details in this case. once the arraignment gets under way, we're expected to hear more
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details, that according to the district attorney's office. this is a case that has captured the attention of people here for more than two weeks. >> i think the number one concern is finding ana and what happened. >> reporter: the time line in the mystery of what happened to ana walshe spans more than two weeks starting on new year's day. when her husband claims she left their home in a ride share or taxi to fly to washington d.c. for work. but prosecutors say there's no evidence ana got a ride or went to the airport. brian said on this day he ran errands for his mother in a nearby town but they find no evidence those trips occurred. january 2nd prosecutors say walshe went to a home depot and spent about $450 in cash on cleaning supplies like mops, buckets, and tarps. january 4th ana walshe's work place, a d.c. real estate firm
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calls police to report her missing. a police log would confirm the head of security at the firm was the first to report her missing to police and that her husband, has not filed a missing person report on female. her friends begin to fear the worst. >> i think something has gone hor horribly, horribly wrong when it comes to her. >> reporter: january 6th, police start a massive search in k cohasset. police say internet records show searches how to dismember a body and dispose of a 115 pound woman's body. january 8th walshe is charged with misleading investigators. >> early in the investigation police developed probable cause to believe her husband, brian walshe, age 47 misled police investigators on material matters important to the search for ana walshe. >> walshe is taken into custody.
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january 9th prosecutors say investigators recover a bloody knife in the family basement, also finding a hacksaw and torn up pieces of cloth with apparent bloodstains at a trash facility. this according to law enforcement sources. january 17th walshe is charged with his wife's murder. >> additional details and the evidence in support of those charges are likely to be presented at arraignment. >> reporter: and again, kaitlan, the arraignment should get under way just a few hours from now. this is at the point where we are expected to learn more information about what evidence investigators have gathered connecting brian walshe to the murder of his wife ana. >> we'll be watching that closely. jason, thank you. also this morning u.s. capitol police investigated more than 7,000 threats against members of congress last year. 7,000. which is actually a drop from last year, if you can believe
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that. the agency's police chief said the number is still too high and the threat of political violence in congress and beyond is obvious from the headlines. starting with four elected democrats in new mexico, that were alleged targeted by the failed republican candidate for state legislature arrested by a s.w.a.t. team this week after being accused of orchestrating shootings at those officials' homes after he visited them. there's the attack on paul pelosi after a man broke into their home with a hammer and attacked him looking for nancy pelosi. in june, it was breatt kavanaug, there was a man arrested threatening to kill him. and a man was arrested outside of ya maya pal's home. and also who could forget would
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be kidnappers that conspired to kidnap gretchen whitmer in 2020. something i spoke to her about just recently. >> i'm an ordinary person. i have an extraordinary job. i have served in extraordinary times. i'm a mom, i'm a daughter. i'm an average person who is trying to serve my state. >> also maine senator susan collins said she's been receiving threats for years. she had her windows smashed and had this warning saying she wouldn't be surprised if a senator or house member was killed. what started with an abusive phone call translated into active threats of violence and real violence. and this morning, police say former new mexico state house candidate salman pena visited the homes of two democratic leaders before their homes were shot at. ring doorbell footage captured
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him at a home prior to the attack. watch this. >> hello. >> my name is solman pen yya. can i speak with debbie o'malley. >> she doesn't live here. >> the public records said she owns it. she lives around the corner bleep -- >> thank you, sorry for bothering you. >> brazen there. chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so listen, the allegations that he hired people to shoot at the homes of four politicians in december and january following his failed bids to the new mexico state house, have you seen anything like this before? >> no. but if we hadn't seen it, we should have seen it coming. you have the storming of the capitol on january 6th, who's leading it, oath keepers in tactical gear, weapons, proud
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boys. you have proud boys showing up in camouflage with rifles. a drag queen story hours across the counted. you have nancy pelosi's home invasion in san francisco where the perpetrator said to police allegedly that his intent was to break her kneecaps as an example for congress. so this has been coming. >> how much of this do you think has to do with what we were talking about he said about the election, he went to the homes of the officials, one of the commissioners we spoke to yesterday trying to get her not to certify the votes in the election. that was before. then he orchestrated these shootings. what does it say about people being unwilling to accept their election losses. >> this has become a side culture. if you lose the election it's not because you lost. remember he didn't lose by three points he lost by 48 points. it wasn't a base line call there. so that is kind of in the playbook of this far right
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extremism. and when you see the threats to congress, which went in 2017 from under 4,000, up to 2021, 10,000. back down to 7,000. as it was going down again, threats against state officials involved in elections, county commissioners, secretaries of state were going up. >> yeah. yes, it's about the far right as you said but also a sense of entitlement i think needs to be delved into. of course we're supposed to be the winners. this is how it's supposed to be. it is our god given and american given right to win an election. >> it could be more base than that. which is we're going to intimidate you before the election. people with rifles would be sitting around ballot boxes during the midterms, intimidate you during the election and if it doesn't work, after. which is what this is. shooting up the houses was a message. >> toxic entitlement. thank you. now to the case of a former
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alabama basketball player charged with murder. a court deposition reveals the former crimson tide forward, darius miles, admitted to providing the handgun used to kill the 23-year-old on sunday. the victim's family said she was sought after she denied a man's advances. miles and another man michael davis have been charged with capital murder, being held without bond. witnesses identified davis as the shooter. investigators believe the deadly incident was the result of a minor incident. lisa marie pressley's cause of death has been deferred by the coroner. she died last week after being hospitalized following an apparent cardiac arrest. dr. sanjay gupta joins us this morning. we don't have a lot of details on her specific case but in general why might a cause of
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death be deferred. >> well, it's because there wasn't is really obvious cause of death on the initial physical autopsy, typically. i'll show you what they might be but preface they can find a cause but it could take a while, even weeks. these are things on an initial autopsy, trauma, stroke, significant infections, blood clots, pulmonary embolism. if you see those and they're obvious within the initial physical autopsy they may come back with a cause of death. but there are things that are deferred. it can be for all sorts of different reasons. they may want to evaluate more medical records get more history. but they're looking for other things, like drugs, alcohol intoxication, other toxic substances perhaps, underlying conditions, heart conditions,
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preexisting heart conditions, things that might require to look at the tissue with a microscope, certain liver diseases. again, they typically will get the results but with the blood tests and the toxicology tests those can sometimes take weeks. >> we can't say we don't know if lisa marie had a heart attack here. those are details we're waiting on from the coroner, from her family. but there is reporting and data to back it up, sometimes heart attack symptoms are actually missed in women, right? >> yeah. this is a real big issue. i think a lot of times heart disease is thought of a man's disease. showing you numbers quickly. if you look at overall diseases -- deaths attributed to heart disease there's 382,000 in men, this is 2020, 314,000 in women. so it's a leading cause of death
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for men and women alike. heart disease. keep that in mind. you have to think about heart disease for men and women. but chest pain is still one of the most common symptoms in men and women, shortness of breath but you can get what can be classified as atypical symptoms in women, nausea, vomiting. you wouldn't attribute that to an underlying heart problem. back pain, for example, or fatigue or jaw pain those can be the precursors to having a more significant heart problem. it's an important message. we don't know and hopefully will find out in a few weeks what exactly happened here. but for men and women alike, leading cause of death and you have to pay attention to unusual symptoms. >> good advice. thank you for joining us on that. up next, a powerful republican who runs one of the most high profile republican conferences every year has been accused of sexually assaulting
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midterm elections. kristen holmes joins us with more. what's happening and what's the shape of this lawsuit looking like? >> reporter: there's a lot and one of the interesting things we see is it not only accuses matt schlapp of sexual battery but it accuses matt schlapp and his wife, who served as former president trump's communication director, of defamation and conspiracy to discredit the accuser. what are those accusations? as we said we reported this last week. these are brought by a republican staffer in his late 30s who alleged that schlapp fondled his groin without consent when he was driven back to a hotel last october. an attorney for the schlapps denied the allegations. he said the complaint is false and the schlapp family is suffering unbearable pain and stress due to the allegations from an anonymous individual.
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no family should go through this and the schlapps and legal team are assessing counter lawsuit options. we do not know the victim's identity. in this lawsuit they are listed as a john doue to protect their identity and reputation. >> when we were reporting on this last week, when the allegations were made. there were text messages between matt schlapp and this accuser the morning after the alleged incident took place. does the lawsuit in any way corroborate those text messages or the other claims of the accuser? >> reporter: there are two texts i want to point out. one is one that cnn already reported on. it's the morning after the alleged incident. it was sent from schlapp to this staffer, essentially what we know is that the staffer says that he texted schlapp said that he was uncomfortable with what
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had happened, that schlapp tried to call him several times and then sent this message, if you could see it in your heart to call me, i would appreciate it, if not i wish you luck on the campaign and hope you keep up the good work. there was a new text message revealed in the lawsuit sent by mercedes schlapp to a neighborhood group chat in which she alleges this individual is a troubled individual and said they were fired from multiple jobs for lying. now the lawsuit says that is not true, but, of course, it's clear here that's, at least in part, where the defamation charges or accusations are coming from. >> big question and that event is coming up a few months from now. this morning house republicans are ramping up their long-promised investigation into president biden's son hunter, they said messages and financial transactions found on a laptop of his raises questions whether he traded on his father's public service. it appears he might not be the
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only biden to take advantage of the family name. pamela brown has more. >> reporter: he has built his political career on promises of honesty, hard work and a pledge that a family name means something. >> i give my word as a biden. >> give you my or word as a biden. >> reporter: while joe biden swears by his name in politics, his son and two brothers spent years trying to benefit from the biden name. it's all now the focus of a republican-led congressional investigation. >> you want to know what the biden administration is trying to hide from the american people. >> reporter: republican congressman james comer chaired the house oversight committee and has set his sights on joe biden's son, hunter. a laptop now in the hands of the fbi and long held conspiracy theories about joe biden and what he does or doesn't know. >> i have never discussed with my son or brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses. period. >> reporter: despite his
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denials, a cnn review of the laptop data, as well as other public material shows that joe biden did interact with some of his son's associates while serving as vice president. though it's unclear exactly what was discussed. one example, the republicans cite a mexican businessman and son of the former president who hunter was trying to woo. in 2014, he and his dad were photographed at the white house with then vice president biden. in a later email, hunter biden reminds him of the favors he's done for him. we've been talking about business deals and partnerships for years i've brought every person you asked me to the white house and the vice president's house. hunter biden acknowledged the power of the biden name in a memoir. writing that bah risma consider
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his last name gold. >> i don't think there's a lot of things that wouldn't have happened if my last name wasn't biden. >> reporter: frank biden, a developer of for-profit charter schools, invoked his brother trying to get local officials to approve his projects like in sunrise florida where he told the city to trust his venture. >> not because of frank but because of the honor of being the brother of a guy i think we all know and love. >> reporter: in 2021, he made this pledge. >> the bully pulpit that i have as a result of the privilege of being associated with my brother, joey -- >> i'll do everything in my power to support you, to get the job done. to get federal dollars to your research. >> reporter: frank biden told cnn there's been zero interaction between his brother's public office and his private business. adding do i engage in any way in
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quid pro koe on any level, absolutely not. >> the last name gave credible. >> reporter: michael fray told cnn his other brother broke financial promises he made while referencing the biden name. his company filed a lawsuit alleging fraud. fray spoke to cnn before the lawsuit settled in 2020. >> everything was on the biden name. so we took that to heart. >> reporter: james biden was also named in a lawsuit filed in july. he allegedly received about $600,000 in loans in 2018 from a company he worked with. based upon representations that his last name, biden, could open doors. and that he could obtain a large investment from the middle east based on his political connections. the suit states the investment was never delivered. the lawsuit was settled, those james biden denied the allegations in court filings. he did not respond to a request
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for comment. kathleen clark, a government ethics expert calls it troubling. >> we have examples of biden family members explicitly trading on his name, trying to convince business partners to do deals with them. that's outrageous. >> reporter: even so government ethics experts say the biden's ethical challenges pail in comparison to donald trump. >> one of the differences is that trump himself personally was corrupt. and certainly did enrich himself through the use of government power. >> reporter: even the republican congressman leading the biden investigation raises concerns about trump's dealings while president. >> you believe there should have been more transparency with trump and his family members and the business they may have been doing. >> i do. >> reporter: comer said he wants to introduce bipartisan legislation to tighten ethics laws, but the committee's first priority is the bidens. >> reporter: it's important to
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note there is no proof the president has done anything illegal. we sent the white house a list of questions including whether the president stands by his statement that he never discussed his relatives' businesses with them. in response the white house sent us this statement. the president has pledged to restore ethics to the white house and has established the most rigorous ethics guidelines of any administration in history. no family member has or will serve in the administration or be involved in government decision making. back to you. >> pamela brown in washington for us this morning. thank you. also this morning we now know that enjoying nature can heal the soul but can it heal your body? we'll show you a study that says it might. >> we need that on this schedule. hollywood legend john laraquette revealing how he was first paid for his original movie gig in the original "texas
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welcome back to "cnn this morning." coming up, the tsa intercepting a record number of firearms at airport checkpoints in 2022. most of them were loaded. the governor of illinois facing pushback from law enforcement after he banned assault weapons in the state. that governor is going to join us live. a deadly helicopter crash in ukraine, the nation's interior minister and three children among the dead. we are live on the ground in the suburbs of kyiv with clarissa ward. we have heard about the health benefits of getting outside but now a study shows it can reduce your need for medication for anxiety, asthma, high blood pressure, among others. joining us to talk about the results of the study who better than cnn's medical correspondent, dr. tara narula. so getting outside means you need less medication of certain things. >> should we get up and go? >> i think i know the answer. >> bring the studio outdoors.
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this was an interesting study taking place in finland, they sampled or survey 6,000 adults in the largest cities of finland about their access, use and frequenting of how often they went within green and blue spaces and they found those who had the highest frequency of visits to green spaces had lower use of the medications you mentioned, a 30% reduction in the use of blood pressure medications, and a 25% reduction in the use of asthma medications. >> but maybe more claritin. >> i thought it was vitamin d meaning sunshine and moving. >> they can't really tell from the study what exactly the link is. but interesting, it was not good enough to look at green and blue spaces so you couldn't have a few of the hudson river and have this effect. there's something about getting up and going. so there may be a link there both with increased physical
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activity that can lower your use of medications, maybe stress reductions some other benefits and socialization, getting out and being around other people so there's potentially the biological link that can make this make sense. >> this next thing is me. >> the opposite of me. i hate procrastinating. but you have reporting on how it can -- you're not just missing a deadline or late to something, it can have a poor effect on don's health. >> yeah. i'm the opposite, i get stressed out by procrastination. this was a study of about 3,000 swedish university students. and they surveyed them about how much they procrastinated. there's a scale, who knew that that existed. and then they followed their health outcomes over nine months and those with the highest amount of procrastination had worse mental health, more upper body pain, loneliness, poor economic situation. >> my gosh. >> the associations were small
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but the authors of the study say if we followed them for longer periods of time maybe we would see larger impacts and maybe something to work on, to target. >> i need a deadline. i work better under deadline or under pressure. i'm the red light person with when the camera goes on. same with a deadline, if the deadline is there i'm going to do it. as you said, you have to see what the long term effects are. >> exactly. >> i'm a loner and i'm a procrastinator. >> you're not a loner. >> yes, i am. >> you didn't know that did you? >> i'm like why are these people talking so much, even in my house, don't talk so much. >> don't talk about the dogs like that. bar barkley. >> that's his problem he barks too much. >> i had no idea you were a loner. i would never suspect. >> thank you, doctor. appreciate it. go to cnn.com to read the full article on procrastination.
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sorry. i read kaitlan's thing. >> i already read it because i don't procrastinate. >> that was a good one. so there's a long-standing rumor revealed to be true. actor john larroquette admits he was paid in marijuana for his role in the film "texas chain saw massacre". what this. >> the film which you are about to see is an account of the tragedy which be fell a group of five youths. >> so he told parade magazine the director, toby harper, gave me some marijuana or a match box or whatever you called it in those days. i walked out of the recording studio, patted him on the backside and said good luck to you. you can't do that these days. the low budget movie spawned a
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span franchise and he narrated those, but for the squequels he earned paycheck. now you know paid in a little -- >> some way to get paid. >> does anyone do that anymore or is it just gummies or edibles? >> that's a whole other segment for dr. narula. >> i don't know. that's what i heard. >> people still do it, don. >> is that true, doctor? >> yes. i hear all people's inner workings and secrets in the exam room. >> let's do research after the show. illinois governor at odds with a dozen sheriffs in his state who say they won't enforce his assault weapons ban. coming up we'll talk to governor j.b. pritzker of illinois. gun shots fired at the end of a high school basketball game. details of what you're seeing here next.
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♪ welcome back, everyone. this morning the tsa revealing someone attempted to bring a weapon with an anti-tank level fire power on a texas flight this week. agents said they found the undeclared weapon in checked luggage and alerted police. that, as the agency says, it intercepted a record number of firearms at airport security checkpoints in 2022, confiscating more than 6,500 firearms last year and 80% were loaded. the number of firearms has risen every year since 2010, except 2020 when the pandemic limited travel. and this, terrifying moments at an oklahoma high school basketball game. >> john smith field house,
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tonight where -- [ gun shots ] >> we'll go to break. >> what the hell, announcers and fans forced to take cover moments after a game. at least one man was shot and taken to the hospital. there were more than 500 people inside the facility when the shots were fired. the principal of dell city high said the school will shift to a virtual learning day today. also today illinois governor, jb ritpritzker is getg push back from law enforcement after banning the sale of assault weapons. it makes it illegal to convert legal handguns into assault weapons and require those who own semiautomatic guns to register them with state police. dozens of sheriffs say they won't enforce the newly enacted assault weapons ban with one sheriff writing it's a clear
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violation to the second amendment constitution. they won't check to make sure lawful gun owners have registered their weapons as some officials are standsinging with sheriffs. >> a majority said they're not going to enforce it because it's unconstitutional. we are in danger of losing our country if we don't stand up, wake up. i didn't leave the farm to go to the general assembly and watch someone like jb pritzker trash our constitution. >> joining us now is the governor of illinois, who's joining us from the world economic meeting in davos, switzerland. governor, the legal battles are against this bill that you signed into law are already under way. do you think it's going to be able to with stand those challenges? >> well, the nra said they were going to challenge this in court because they couldn't win in the legislature.
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frankly, the vast majority of the people of the state support an assault weapons ban. and it's a lot of political grand standing by elected republican sheriffs. you're hearing from. the truth is there's nothing for them to enforce at this point. the fact is right now we have one year for people to register the serial numbers of their assault weapons that are in existence. we have outlawed the purchase or sale of any of those weapons going forward. i think you're see ago lot of politics and we'll let the courts play it out. >> for the courts saying they -- for the sheriffs saying they're not going to enforce the ban, what do you say to them? >> well, there's no going door-to-door knocking on people's doors, asking them to see their weapons or they've registered them. that's political grand standing. they took an oath of office to enforce the law. when the law goes into effect
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where someone is caught with a weapon that isn't registered, they'll enforce it. we have lots of law enforcement in the state of illinois. elected sheriffs are one level. we have local state police, state police. lots of folks who will hold people accountable. the sheriffs know better. they know their voters won't stand for it if they're not enforcing the law. one last thing you showed a small minority of ledgislators who voted against it, saying it was unconstitutional. the fact is it's in existence in eight other states we're simply the ninth. >> that is true, you are the ninth. but a question of the courts and whether or not this can withstand those challenges. last week we heard from justices thomas and alito sending a clear message they believe they should keep the pressures on the court, gun rights owners, should keep the pressures on the court. so my question, what's driving
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your confidence that this law you signed will be able to stand the challenges from courts? >> the fact that there are -- have been challenges of other states' assault weapons bans. we're simply copying frankly what's done in other states. our is one of the most stringent but fits within the confines of what is constitutional and acceptable. lots of scholars have said that about our law. but again, who knows the supreme court certainly a very right wing one and we'll have to let the courts play this out. i don't think alito and thomas are the deciding factor, though, in an assault weapons ban. we're not allowing people to, in the united states, have, you know, massive weapons of war, you know, where assault weapons are killing literally dozens of people at a time and injuring many, many more. this is the type of weapon that should be kept off the streets. we're not taking anybody's guns
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away. no guns are being confiscated under this law. we're stopping the sale and future acquisition of these kinds of weapons. >> you're in davos right now. there was a moment on stage where you were critical of lawmakers not helping president biden get his agenda passed. you were sitting next to kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. let me play some of what you said. >> president biden is getting things done. he's worked with some reluctant members of his own member, members of the republican party, but we have got things done. >> while some would say there were reluctant folks working in congress, i would say that was the basis for the productivity
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for some incredible achievements that made a difference for the american people. >> we still don't agree on getting rid of the filibuster. >> correct. >> you see the high five from manchin and kyrsten sinema. what was your reaction to that? >> i am glad that they voted for the president's plan, but they're holding up things on voting rights. the president did a great job of persevering with the couple democrats that weren't working with the rest of the party. i'm glad we got things done. i wish we could get more done. i think with the majority of the senate we'll get more done, but the problem is kevin mccarthy and the radical left wing that's
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in control of the house. >> you talked about how difficult it will be to get to the 2% goal of inflation. do you think it's time for the federal reserve to rethink its strategy of raising interest rates? >> look, i think they should focus on bringing down inflation. the reality is you can't raise interest rates forever and you don't want the united states to go into a serious recession. i think that you're seeing a slowing down of our seconomy an you're seeing a reduction of inflation and i think that's just right. they should be cognizant of that and careful when they move forward how much you're raise interest rates. >> the biden administration has been facing criticism over the handling of the classified documents situation that is being investigated by a special counsel at the justice department. one matter of contention is that it took several months before
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when those documents were discovered on november 2nd and when they were reported on january 9th, which was only because cbs news reported it. do you believe the white house has fumbled the response here? >> i think it's appropriate to have an independent counsel and for the white house to be fully trans transparent. this was vastly different than the situation with trump. he was literally hiding documents and refusing to turn them over whereas this white house has turned them over and encouraged an investigation. as fast as people find them, they should turn them over, but vastly different with the mar-a-lago incident where they literally had to raid mrlar-a-lo to recover the documents. >> it is different scenarios.
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do you think the white house has been forthcoming enough about the documents since they didn't make the information publicly known? >> i don't know all the circumstances around the timing of the finding of the document and whether they knew they were classified and all the protocols involved. what i can tell you is they have worked very hard to find any other documents. they've turned over any others they came across. i think they came across one more. again, there should be an investigation. i think having an independent counsel is the right thing to do and that the white house needs to be fully transparent about this. >> governor, i lived in washington for several years. there are often questions among democrats about who might have presidential aspirations. your name has come up. you were florida giving a speech. do you have presidential
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ambitions? have you thought about running for higher office? >> i travel the country to support democrats across the nation. we were successful in holding back a tide -- you know, a red wave and did very well in illinois. look, i fully intend to serve out four years as governor of illinois and intend to support the president in his re-election. i hope we'll have a convention in the city of chicago to celebrate that and nominate him and he'll get re-elected in 2024. >> have you ever thought about it? >> my focus is on all the challenges we have in the state of illinois. >> governor pritzker, thank you so much. i know you have a busy day in davos. thank you for taking the time to join us. >> glad to be with you. >> he's saying there's a chance.
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