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>> it's crazy to think it's 25 years old. >> it is. it's crazy it's 25 years old, but what were we talking about before, redoing "ghost?" i think it's interesting, i will watch the james cameron thing, but, i don't know, why would you remake a movie that is a classic and why would you try to ruin it with whether you can on a door -- just go to the movie, enjoy it and, yeah, they can do it. >> it's why i don't get on cruises. >> i'm the king of the world. that was my favorite part of the movie. >> while we're debating this, cnn's "newsroom" continues and starts right now. >> i need some sleep. ♪ good morning, everyone, i'm bianna golodryga. >> and i'm john berman. any moment now brian walshe the massachusetts husband charged with the murder of his still missing wife ana is expected in court for his arraignment. prosecutors are expected to present evidence supporting the
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murder charge. we're going to take you there live inside the courtroom as soon as it begins. there on the left-hand side of your screen, live pictures from inside that courtroom. we are also following devastating scenes outside the ukrainian capital this morning. at least 17 people are dead and dozens more hurt after a helicopter carrying the ukrainian interior minister and his team crashed near a kindergarten. officials say eight victims were locales. children and their parents on the way to school. and let's begin there this morning. cnn chief international correspondent clarissa ward is on the ground outside of kyiv. tell us more about what you're learning, clarissa. >> reporter: well, we've just seen very tragically what appears to be another body bag being carried out from this area behind me by emergency services. they've been there for hours combing through the wreckage of that kindergarten looking to see whether there might be more
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bodies under the rubble that was caused when this reel crashed in into this kindergarten this morning. everyone on that helicopter was killed that includes the interior minister of ukraine, denys monastyrskyi, the deputy secretary, the secretary of state, but also on the ground parents and children, people who were dropping their kids off at school, at least four children known to have been killed so far. what we're waiting to try to get a better sense of now is how did this happen? why did this happen? we know the weather was bad, that there was very thick fog this morning. we know that ukraine's sbu, the security services, have opened an investigation trying to ascertain how this happened. they are not ruling anything out so far, but there is no indication at this stage at least that there was foul play
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or anything like that involved. >> just tragic, just knowing that children were involved, parents on the way taking their kids to kindergarten when tragedy unfolded. clarissa ward, thank you. joining me now is former nato supreme allied commander and retired general wesley clark. general, thank you so much for joining us. we know that the interior minister is now the highest ranked official to have been killed since the war began. the investigation into this crash is just getting under way. i'm curious to get your thoughts, though, on whether you think this will change or at least officials will have to think twice about how they travel to and from different parts of this country given that it is constantly bombarded. >> well, i think that they've been very careful in using helicopters up to now. it was a reliable helicopter, it's not new, it's not an old soviet helicopter, it's a western helicopter, so, yes, there could be a mechanical
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malfunction. the weather is always a factor, they've got to look at the weather. my guess is the pilots were pretty experienced and they're probably used to flying through tough weather. so they're going to have to look very seriously at this. this would have been, if it was sabotage, it would certainly have been a key strike because you've taken out the top of the interior ministry and that's the ministry that's responsible for internal security in ukraine. so it has a definite impact and i'm sure president zelenskyy and his team are going to do the best they can to replace those individuals rapidly as possible and keep the functioning of the interior ministry. >> and no indication earlier on at least that there was any foul play involved, as we noted, the investigation is just under way. i also want to get you to weigh in on what's happening today, nato defense officials will be meeting in brussels to talk once again about how they continue to
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help and arm ukraine. i know that a lot of attention has been focused on tanks and other large utility vehicles there, but i'm curious given that the lack of artillery or concern about depleting ar artillery is top of the mind and foundational in this type of warfare. "the new york times" is reporting that the united states is tapping into artillery stored in north korea. now sustainable is it given the pace of war, russia and ukraine? >> well, we are in an arms race, an industrial production race against russia with artillery ammunition. they can't sustain it and we can't sustain it. at least at the current expenditure rates. so we're going to have to get up our industrial base. can we do it? will we do it? it is a larger question of will the united states change its
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policy? thus far we have only tried to prevent a loss for ukraine. will we actually give them what they need to eject russia? that's the question. to do that we have to be willing to accept the risk of putin's outbursts, his threats, his nuclear threats, et cetera. that's going to be if not on the table an underlying factor in the discussion today. >> we know that the united kingdom has now offered about 14 tanks, of course, ukraine saying they appreciate it. they need about 300 tanks, though, at this point. so we will see whether allies can agree upon. general wesley clark, thank you so much. we turn now to massachusetts where brian walshe charged with murdering his wife ana is expected in court as soon as this hour. >> cnn's brynn gingras is outside the courthouse in quincy this morning. give us a sense of what we expect to see any moment now.
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>> reporter: yeah, john and bianna, good morning. we are expecting that arraignment sometime to happen after court gets under way at 9:00 this morning. we're expecting prosecutors to essentially explain how they came to be able to charge brian walshe with murdering his wife, but also improper transfer -- transport of a body. now, of course, the questions that remain as evidence has sort of stacked up against brian walshe over the last two and a half weeks is what is now linking him to the murder? is evidence that they found at that transport center an hour outside of their home, cohasset, linked now to the home where they found bloody traces in the basement of their home? did they find a body? these are all questions that we still have and wonder if prosecutors will sort of give answers to as this arraignment gets under way. so, again, now, two new charges against brian walshe, that will be laid out in court today. he's already been held behind bars on that original charge of
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misleading investigators and a short time ago we did see him go into court. the way the court works here, guys, in norfolk county is it it gets under way at 9:00 but it's up to the judge to set the schedule. it's unclear exactly what time he will appear before the judge. >> of course we will take you there live once that begins. brynn, i know we're also getting reaction from friends and family this morning. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, one friend telling cnn that she has sort of rage and relief at this point. of course, they have been on edge not just the friends and family of ana walshe but this entire community who doesn't experience this kind of crime at all and, you know, normally, and she says that it's just, you know, so surprising that this is where they are now at this point after not knowing where ana walshe sort of just disappeared. and this one friend saying, though, again, there is a little bit of relief, though, because this community, this family and friends, deserve answers, in
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particular the couple's three young boys deserve answers as to what happened. whether or not we get those answers in the coming days, coming weeks, we shall see, guys. >> all right. brynn gingras, thank you. here now cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. all right. john, this is big. we could learn some of the details we have not known until this point. what are you hoping to learn? >> well, i think what we're going to see today is we know a lot about the crime scene, they found blood in the basement, they found a bloody knife, they found biological material at a trash dumpsite an hour and a half north in massachusetts. the science part is going to be -- and that was the last witness to testify in the grand jury was the crime lab people -- is does the blood from the basement match the blood from the biological material. are there bone fragments or other things that get us from, well, there was blood to there was a body and it might have been dismembered. i think in the papers we're
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going to see today if they were able to make those scientific connections, which would have gotten them from misleading investigators allegedly to murder allegedly, that will be spelled out in these new charges. >> and walshe also faces a new charge of improper transfer of body. i'm just curious how they get to that charge given that there is no body to be found at this point. >> if you can do a circumstantial murder case without a body you can do a circumstantial case about moving the body that wasn't found if you can tie those things together, which is is there blood and bone fragments in the basement? does it match bone and blood fragments found at the dump. >> that is a good circumstantial case to build there was a body here and then it ended up there and the person, you know, is dead, so murder and moving go together in that. it's really interesting when you do a murder case without a body, particularly where we are. this is massachusetts, the first case they did was right here in
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norfolk county. it was september 27th, 1998, katherine romano was allegedly murdered by her husband, he borrows a saw, he throws away a mattress, there's a lot of cleaning up behind the case and it takes years to get to trial and get to a conviction. but that's the first case in massachusetts history where they did a murder conviction without a body and it's the same district attorney's office. >> how much do you think they, prosecutors, want to lay out here and would they hold anything back if and when this does go to trial? >> i think they're going to want to lay out the new evidence here that shows they have enough to establish probable cause to bring this charge, and i think, john, they're going to want to hold back a number of things that are either still in development, the investigation continues, including the science part, but also things that they're going to need for trial. they'll tell enough to establish probable cause but not everything they know. >> all right. john miller, thank you so much. of course, we will take you live
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to the courtroom when that hearing does get under way. and still to come this hour, new economic data out this morning shows inflation slowing for the last month. we're seeing a trend here. we will tell you what this means for you at home. he has been accused of being a pathological liar and now he has been assigned to two house committees. the latest on the george santos saga ahead and the man accused of being the mastermind behind shooting at the homes of several democratic lawmakers, he has his first court appearance today. the new details we're learning. but with upwork... with upwork the hiring process is fast and flexible. behold... all l that talent! ♪ this is howow we work now ♪
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and this just in, a key economic indicator showing inflation is slowing. the producer price index released today was much lower than wall street's expectations. >> cnn chief business correspondent christine romans is here. i got all excited, romance, because you have all these charts you've been dying to share with us. >> i've overdone it on the
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charts. we want to mark this moment where it looks like there's a peaking in this terrible inflation story. over the past 12 months the producer price index up 6.2%. guys, that's still too high, but look at from month to month, down half a percent and when you look at the chart of producer price inflation this is running half the level it was at the peak. that's important. that is really showing you that the worst of the price increases are behind us. when i dig into the core number, this next chart is one of my very favorites because three of the last six months you have had prices decline from one month to another, falling prices. i mean, just saying those two words together is something i haven't been able to say very often. >> that is a nice chart. >> i knew you would like that one. the next one is cpi and ppi and it shows that they are both turning. consumer prices what you pay, consumer prices what is on the factory floor. we did see how inflation is eating into consumers' appetite for things, retail sales fell
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for the second month here in a row. so it shows you that consumers are like, okay, i see your higher prices and i'm going to find cheaper things to buy or put off some of my purchases. that's where we say higher prices can cure higher prices. >> which is what the fed had been wanting. >> you take that all together it shows you that fed medicine is working. >> look, the friends are moving in the right direction, that's what all those charts showed, people are happy about this. until they're not that's a story for another time. >> i have 15 more i'm email you after the segment. >> i can't wait to see them. in new mexico this morning former republican political candidate solomon pena will make his first court appearance. >> he faces charges related to four shootings that occurred at the homes of democratic officials. cnn's senior national correspondent kyung lah is outside court. what do we expect from pena's first court appearance today? >> reporter: well, bianna and john, we anticipate that this is going to be a very brief appearance. he has a number of people who are going to be appearing before a judge and this is an initial
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appearance. so we anticipate it will be brief, but we will get a look at him. and this is why it's important to the victims, when i was talking to the commissioners who had their homes shot at [ inaudible ] -- >> hang on one second. you are looking live inside a quincy courtroom in massachusetts. this is where brian walshe charged with the murder now of his wife ana is facing charges. let's listen in. >> you are also charged with -- of a body without lawful authority, to willfully dig up or remove human remains. not guilty plea has been entered. >> your honor [ inaudible ]. >> your honor, we're not contesting bail or probable cause, we would ask that he be -- >> thank you, but i have to satisfy myself with probable cause. thank you. >> thank you, your honor. >> the defendant is now before the court charged with murder of
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his wife ana walshe also -- of a body. ana was 39 years old, the mother of three children, 2, 4 and 6. ana worked in washington, d.c., spending her time weekdays between d.c. during the week and staying in her house in cohasset where she lived with the defendant and their three kids. on january 4th of 2023, cohasset police received a call from her washington, d.c. employer indicating that she was missing. she was due to report to work on january 4th, but did not appear. she had a flight on january 3rd from logan to d.c. which she did not board. cohasset police went to their house for a well being check. it was only at this time when they met with the defendant that he first reported his wife missing. defendant stated his wife left the house at approximately 6:00 a.m. on january 1st, new year's day.
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he stated she took an uber or lyft to go to the airport, that she was returning to d.c. for work. records were checked and there was no uber or lyfts to that house on january 1st. defendant said he had not spoken to his wife since the early morning hours on new year's day. cohasset police were granted permission to bing ana's phone. it indicated it was stationary in the area of the cohasset house on new year's eve until 3:14 a.m. on january 2nd. there was no outgoing calls made at that time. at 3:14 a.m. on the 2nd was turned off. defendant stated ana should have been wearing a dress, black jacket, hunter boots, watch, ring, as well as carrying a prada purse. defendant gave a timeline of 6:00 or 6:10 a.m. on the 1st when he last saw her. what i'd like to do is describe his actions on the days from january 1st.
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defendant indicated on january 1st at 3:00 p.m. he did some errands and went to his mother's house in swampscott but got lost because he didn't have his phone. he said he knew he was lost when he saw a pirate ship on route 1. defendant stated he stayed 15 minutes then went to whole foods and cvs. surveillance was checked and did he not enter either of those stores. on january 1st defendant googled using his son's ipad some of the searches are as follows, keep in mind that the defendant said he left at 6:00 a.m. at 4:55 a.m. on january 1st he searched how long before a body starts to smell? at 4:58 a.m., how to stop a body from decomposing. at 5:20 a.m. he searched how to -- a body. at 5:47 a.m. ten ways to dispose of a dead body if you really
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need to. at 6:25 a.m. on the 1st, how long for someone to be missing to inherit. at 6:34 a.m. on the 1st can you throw away body parts? at 9:29 a.m. what does formaldehyde do? at 9:34 a.m. on the 1st, how long does dna last? at 9:59 a.m., can identification be made on partial remains? at 11:34 a.m. dismemberment and the best ways to dispose of a body. at 11:44 how to clean blood from wooden floor. at 11:56 on the 1st luminol to detect blood. at 1:08 what happens when you put body parts in amine i can't? at 1:21 p.m. does is it better to throw crime scene clothes away or wash them. there was also information gained from the defendant's phone which showed on january
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2nd he was at home goods in norwell where he purchased three rugs. there were also more google searches on january 2nd. at 12:45 p.m., hacksaw best tool to dismember. at 1:10 p.m., can you be charged with murder without a body? at 1:14 p.m., can you identify a body without -- with broken teeth? on january 2nd following those the defendant was seen on surveillance at the home depot in rockland and checking with surveillance the defendant is observed on security camera pushing a cart, items included cleaning products, mops, brushes, tape, tarp, a tyvek suit with boot covers, buckets, goggles, baking soda, a hatchet. he had a facemask and rubber gloves on at the time he was pushing the cart in home depot.
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at 5:32 he was seen in hingham removing gloves and a mask. data from his phone also tracked his whereabouts on january 3rd. locations were traveled at 4:27 on january 3rd to an apartment complex in abington. surveillance shows the defendant's volvo as well as a male fitting the defendant's appearance exiting a car near the dumpster. he walks to the dumpster carrying a garbage bag. he's leaning and it appears to be heavy as he has to heft it into the dumpster. he walks to the dumpster with the garbage bag and leaves it. on 4:48 he hit another complex in abington and at 5:10 p.m. cellphone shows records at another apartment in brockton. video shows a party consistent with his appearance and his volvo. again, he discarded items in the
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dumpster. on january 3rd that same day at 1:02 p.m. he did some more google searches. what happens to hair on a dead body? at 1:13 p.m., what is the rate of decomposition of a body found in a plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods? at 1:20 p.m., can baking soda mask or make a body smell good? on january 4th the following day the defendant went to home goods and t.j. maxx. he purchased towels, as well as bath mats and men's clothing. at 4:15 that day on the 4th he went to lowe's where he purchased squeejees and a trash can. on january 4th when cohasset police went to the house on the well being check, officers observed his volvo with seats down and a plastic liner in the back of the car. the next day a view of the volvo
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showed his seats folded down, floor mats with some dirt and a carpet appeared to show fresh vacuum streaks. when asked about the liner the defendant said he threw it in the trash. chemists later analyzed the car and there was the presence of blood in the car. on january 5th review of the data from defendant's phone showed his phone traveled at 8:00 a.m. first to his day care and then to swampscott where his mother resides. the phone traveled to the complex where his mother lives at 9:30 a.m., went for about five minutes around the building to the southeast corner. in the southeast corner of that complex is where there was a dumpster. the dumpster was later secured and searched. on january 8th police and crime scene services searched the house in cohasset. they found blood in the basement, a knife with the presence of blood, the knife was damaged. a second knife was also found in that basement. in addition there was heavy duty
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large tarp, plastic liners purchased from that home depot. as part of the investigation police checked for activity on ana's credit cards, banks, flights, there was no activity since she was last seen on january 1st. police also tried to track down what happened to the bags that the defendant was seen throwing in the dumpster earlier. this was over in abington. these bags and what was in them were already picked up and taken to a location for shredding and to be incinerated. by the time police located that they were already destroyed. however, investigators did secure a search of the dumpsters from defendant's mother's complex in swampscott. it was searched at a transfer station in peabody. investigators recovered ten trash bags. inside the trash bags many of these items contained stains consistent with blood, in fact,
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a lot. among the items secured were towels, rags, slippers, tape, tyvek suit, gloves, cleaning agents, carpets, rugs, hunter boots, prada purse, a covid-19 card in the name of ana walshe. a hacksaw, a hatchet and some cutting shears. the purse and boots were described as what ana was last seen in. a portion of the rug was heavily stained with red brown stains, the substance was consistent with also having baking soda on. there was a portion of a necklace consistent with one that ana had been seen wearing in photos. the state crime lab confirmed testing on certain selected items that were recovered from those trash bags. there was human blood found on them and then they were sent for dna testing. the findings are as follows. on the slippers in the interior ana and brian walshe were contributors to the dna on those
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slippers which had blood on them. on the exterior ana and brian walshe contributed to the dna found on those slippers. the tyvek suit, on the interior cuffs anna and brian walshe contributed to the dna that was left on them. on the exterior partially -- on the exterior left pant leg ana walshe contributed to the dna. on the interior right sleeve ana walshe was a contributor to the dna that was found on the tyvek suit. there was tissues which found that ana walshe contributed to. dna. there was one other earlier google search which you will note on december 27th defendant googled what's the best state to divorce. rather than divorce it is believed that brian walshe dismembered ana walshe and discarded her body. the bags were later discarded in
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swampscott and contained ana's property and the items used to clean up as well as the dna that was left behind. the commonwealth is asking the defendant be held without bail for the murder of his wife. >> thank you. >> no, your honor. thank you. >> defendant will be held without bail pending indictment. do we have a date for probable -- or you will reserve [ inaudible ]. >> not at this time, but i will. your honor, we have a date of february 7th already for the -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> oh, february 9th. i apologize. if we want to put it on for status on that day. >> and that's by zoom, your honor, correct? >> by zoom into thank you. >> status date or probable cause date? >> status date is fine, your honor. >> february 9th for status. >> thank you. >> thank you, your honor. >> held without bail until february 9th, 2023 for a status
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da date. >> all right. you are looking, again, at live pictures from inside a courtroom in quincy, massachusetts. an extraordinary level of detail as prosecutors laid out their case against brian walshe, charging him with murdering his wife ana. we learned new details about just the long litany of google searches they say he made about how to dismember a body, how to dispose of a body, what happens to parts of a body -- >> how does formaldehyde work. >> and beyond that for the first time we learned information about their dna and scientific investigation. let's get right to that, defense attorney misty maris is with us and current chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john, first to you, you have the
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google searches and this dna found in some of the bags disposed of by brian walshe. didn't have body parts but it had blood consistent dna with that of ana walshe. >> if you take this in total, we are far beyond the standard of is there probable cause to bring a charge or to hold the defendant. now all of this will have to be proven in court, we have to say, you know, the mandatory he is innocent until proven guilty, but what prosecutors laid out today was an incredible trail of means, of motive, of actions, affirmative steps taken from the google searches which were basically a blueprint of questions, you know, and things he planned to do and allegedly did, but the key is if you have biological material in the basement of the house, if you have the murder kit which is the tools that were purchased and the tyvek suits and the things to carry that out, and then on the other end of the garbage
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dump after taking it to the garbage by his mother's house, the dump where that garbage goes to be processed, you find the back end of that, it is highly sugg sugg suggestive efficient aer wise that there was a body and it was moved. >> we've been asking how prosecutors could weigh a charge without a body. we have a treasure trove of some of these searches. how long before a body starts to smell, ten ways to dispose of a body, what does formaldehyde do, and prior to that in december what's the best place to divorce for a man. what is your biggest take away here from all of these searches in particular? >> great question. so all of these internet searches and specifically one that stood out to me is can you identify a body with broken teeth. but all of these searches very,
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very damaging evidence. so with a no body murder case you're going to be basing this off circumstantial evidence and what i expected is exactly what unfolded in court. it's a map of forensic evidence and placing brian walshe in the locations where that forensic evidence was found. this all under the guise of those very, very damaging social media searches that really was that blueprint of his actions according to prosecutors. so, again, the probable cause affidavit where no body murder cases are absolute difficult to prove here the standard of probable cause is reached and now this really unveils the mystery of how prosecutors were going to show probable cause for that other charge of moving a body and improperly moving a body. now we see forensic evidence and a trail of forensic evidence leading to these different locations. so this really put the puzzle together to show the story which
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is what was needed in a circumstantial evidence case to establish probable cause. >> is a hacksaw the best tool to dis dismember a body? can you be charged with murder without a body? gruesome stuff. >> they have details of what he bought at stores and hardware stores. clearly they have been following his actions have a long list of items there and we will continue to follow this case. obviously at the top of the hour. but a lot more to delve into, john miller, misty maris, thank you so much. the republican party is in power in the house and they are handing key committee assignments to some republican hardliners. the implications for what is about to happen in washington next. ed custom scans help you find new trading opportununities while an earnings tool helps you plan youour trades and stay on top of the m market this thing, it's making me get an ice bath again.
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this morning embattled congressman george santos who has admitted to lying about several parts of his past has been awarded seats on two congressional committees, that's despite mounting legal issues and growing calls for him to resign. >> cnn congressional correspondent melanie zanona is up on capitol hill with more. santos wasn't the only, shall we say, unusual committee assignment that we saw. tell us more. >> reporter: that's right. there were actually multiple controversial house republicans who did receive committee assignments yesterday. let's start with george santos because gop leaders were debating how to handle him. they decided, though, they felt like they needed to give him committee assignments. they didn't want to start this precedent where they punished members before they were convicted of a crime. however, multiple committee chairs shade they did not want
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santos serving on their committees. there was internal debate there. ultimately he wound up on the small business committee and the science, space and technology committee. so then there was the other question of what was going to happen to marjory staler green and paul gosar. they were kicked off of their committees in the last congress for incendiary behavior and remarks, they both spoke at a white nationalist conference but speaker kevin mccarthy has long been promising to put them back on committees, likely recognizing he was going to need their votes to become speaker. he made good on that promise yesterday. marjorie taylor greene is going to be serving on the house homeland security committee, which is going to have jurisdiction over the border. paul gosar will serve on the house natural resources committee which is where he served previously. and both of them are going to serve on the house oversight committee along with other members like scott perry, lauren boebert, anna paulina luna and byron donald. they were part of the group
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opposing mccarthy in the initial round. all of those members including controversial members like green and gosar will have a hand in shaping some of the most aggressive investigations into the biden administration. with us now cnn political commentator republican strategist al stewart and john avalon. john, the republicans didn't want to set a precedent on capitol hill by not giving a guy who admitted to lying about much if not most of his past a committee assignment so they gave him bad committee assignments. only in the house do you get this kind of justification. we didn't give him good ones. is that enough? >> no, of course not, but it's not just that, they gave him small business. this is a guy who lied about having an mba, lied about his business experience entirely. it's kind of a chef's kiss. the only way it could be worse is if you put him on the house ethics committee. it's ridiculous on its face. >> alice, he is facing multiple
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investigations now. why did they feel that out of all people they owed him anything? >> well, to your point, he is facing many charges and there are many investigations under way, but to melanie's point until he is found actually guilty of something, house members really didn't have much choice. i spoke with many members of the republican conference and most of them did not want santos to serve on their committees, but at the end of the day he is a duly elected member of congress, he is a freshman and the obligation and the privilege of serving on a committee is part of that. and they did say it's important that these are small committees, small in scope, as well as significance, and the scope of the work that they actually do, but they do acknowledge that this is compromising for some and that this type of behavior, the kind of behavior that santos has engaged in, is compromising and for this to go on with impunity is really discouraging.
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they are glad that the true depth of his fraud was brought to the surface before he was appointed to any major significant committee assignment because they acknowledge that would have been truly embarrassing for the gop, but at the end of the day until something more concrete is found on him he is certainly free to do so, but my recommendation to santos, if he cares to listen, is you made it to washington, you are in congress, you need to keep your head down, you need to remain disciplined and you need to make your top priority is to protect and defend the constitution which is what you are sworn in to do. >> i don't get the no choice thing. i don't believe for a second they had no choice and i don't know where in the constitution it guarantees the right to any committee assignment at all for elected members of congress, john. you and i have talked about this. i get the quandary that mccarthy thinks he is in, that he doesn't want to give up a seat with such a small margin here, but they do have a choice if they wanted to take a stand on ethics and
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honesty. >> absolutely they do, and they're basically dig any fieg a litany of lies. this guy, you know, this is a guy who lied about every aspect of who he is to his constituents. basically defrauded his constituents before an election. and these facts are not even being contested but the story keeps getting worse as more detail keeps coming out. if you need to wait for an indictment, well, then what? but this guy lied about everything and putting him on small business in particular is an insult to small business owners given the amount of lies he told in particular about his alleged business experience which less we forget was core to his pitch to his constituents before the election. >> alice, how are you and other mainstream republicans feeling about marjorie taylor greene being assigned to oversight and homeland security committees? >> look, she has said some extremely outlandish things and there is no denying that and no disputing that and she has said a lot of things that are really
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disrespectful to the republican brand, but she was taken off committees, she served her time in time-out and she made a commitment to mccarthy she would help garner votes for him as speaker and he made a commitment to her that he would put her back on these assignments -- on these committees that are of significance. but regardless of whether or not marjorie taylor greene is on some of these big committees it's clear that the gop is committed to homeland security which is her committee, securing the border and another priority is oversight on how we've gotten to where we are right now with the crisis at the border. so, look, i think she has learned her lesson, she's going to color within the lines now moving forward and i certainly hope that she is going to work on furthering the republican commitment to addressing the economy and inflation. >> you said -- you said t i'm not sure she's ever said she has learned her lesson, but this conversation will be continued for sure, john avalon. >> she is a 9/11 truther on the house -- on the homeland security committee. that's the beginning and end of this conversation.
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improbable, and frankly offensive like david ortiz -- >> but, seriously, here's what's raising concerns. the illustrations generated clearly evoke the works of other artists. the latest action, getty images accuses them scraps millions of their images without proper licensing. one of the imaging still shows the getty watermark. joining us is an independent technology expert. thank you for joining us. for those who aren't so read in on this side of technology, tell us how the a.i. art generators work. >> they're powerful systems. they don't know anything, but you want to train it, for example, to understand what a dog s the way you do that is you
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feed it thousands of images of dogs in all different scenarios, you do the same with a tree, a baseball, the same with david ortiz, with a baseball player in uniform. you train it on these things, and then it knows, and it can construct brand-new images based on its understanding of what you've asked it. one of the big innovations here with all these image generators is natural language processing. someone just taped in david ortiz in a yankee uniform running home after hitting a home run. that's what they put in. they don't have to write code. the system understands it, and it's able to create brand-new imagery base odd that information. >> david or 'tis in a yankee uniform should be easy. but what is illegal is stealing someone else's intellectual property and using it.
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so where is the line here? i guess the computer is using all the getty images, but if it publishes them is it copyright infringement? >> it's not really copy and pasting. these systems are not simply customering and pasting the image of a yankee uniform, the field. what they're doing is they're taking their understanding of all of those elements and creating a brand-new representation. you have trained these ais to understand house to do it. it's obviously not building brand-new images of people you know. what's the style? do you want it to be photo-realistic in or dali-esque? it's how to apply paint in a dali way, and the paint is obviously just digital. so there's a real issue. one of the real issues is getty is terrified, as is shutter
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stop, and people pay for images all the time. if you have a system where you can type in something -- and i've done this, because i would just like type it up, boom, out it would come. i don't have to credit, i don't have to pay. that's the big issue. that's what they're concerned about. i know getty is -- no one can stop it. they want some rules in place. so is it a question of licensing, so they with scrape it, do that, or do something to just acknowledge where they started. by the way, on the getty thing that's appearing with all of them. that's a perfect camp how at the works. it saw getty on every image and understood as an element. that's why it suddenly appears. >> a-rod or derek jeter in -- would not be offensive, just the opposite. [ laughter ] >> thank you. the yes is the law is so far behind the technology.
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