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26th, 8:00 p.m., right here on cnn. follow that long list of people. you know his speech is going to be good. >> i think we need this. there was a conversation we had earlier this week, yesterday where we talked about comedians feeling like they can't get their stuff out there because they're worried about being judged. i think we're in a moment where we need to let comedians be comedians. tina fey made the point where someone would look back on my work and say it was racist. i watch 30 rock, not that it was racist, but it pushed the env envelope. in this environment, i don't think they can do that. >> when something is made, it's so different than seeing it in the present time. adam sandler has dealt with that, critics have looked at films he made.
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he said he doesn't read the reviews anymore. you know he'll give a good speech. thanks for joining us this morning. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. good morning everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm be anna golodryga. happening today, debt ceiling deadline. the country is set to hit its borrowing limit as soon as today. the treasury department says extraordinary measures need to be taken for the next few months at least to stave off disaster that could be coming in june. as republicans refuse to budge on demands and democrats refuse to budge on negotiations, the white house is warning of the dire consequences of a default that could have serious, almost unimaginable implications for the u.s. economy and consumers. our reporters are covering every angle of this developing story. chief business correspondent christine romans is here with us right now.
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what does this mean? what does today mean? >> today is the day we hit that number, just above $31 trillion number. there are things the treasury department can do. they knew this was going to happen. they can start deferring investments into important retirement funds, for example, for public servants. they can do accounting moves to keep the bills flowing until maybe june. so june is when you really have a problem here. we've already sent a message to the rest of the world that the united states does not have its fiscal house in order and is going to be arguing about whether paying the bills it's already spent. this is not about future spending. this is about paying the bills that are already there. there are a couple of things that can happen as we get later in the year, maybe iou to social security recipients and iou to people in the military. they can defer different payments. they must continue to pay the interest on our debt. if they default on u.s. debt, that would be grave with huge
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consequences for your 401(k), interest rates, your standard of living. this political fight in washington over paying the bills that have already been spent, that political fight has huge ramifications for your standard of living at home. that is what the bottom line of this is all about. >> we've been here before. we came dangerously close to going over the cliff in 2011. you say this time feels different. we're going to be watching the next few months very closely. >> we will. i've been talking to a lot of people who over the past few months have been more and more concerned. jamie dimon who runs jpmorgan chase, he just talked about this, we should not even be having this conversation. listen to him. >> we should never question the credit worthiness of the united states government. that's sacrosanct. i don't care who blames who, even questioning it is the wrong thing to do. >> it's super frustrating to have this argument periodically.
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we continually raise the debt ceiling. there are those that argue we shouldn't even have it. again, this is paying for the bills we've already spent. if you want to fight about spending and tax, you don't do that after you've already spent the money. i will say the backdrop here, all these discussions about is there geopolitical risk for a recession around the world? can the u.s. avoid a recession? this is a terrible time to be talking about a self-imposed crisis in washington. i will say the backdrop here, jobless claims. we just got a jobs figure, really low. there are not widespread lay-offs in this economy. we're heading into this year, into this potential crisis with a resilient labor force. outside of tech where you're hearing about lay-offs, it's a tight labor market in the u.s. >> watching closely. christine romans, thank you. this morning the white house is responding to republican holdouts who are refusing to
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raise the debt ceiling. >> this is about economic stability versus economic chaos. what needs to happen is what congress has done time and time again which is prudently do its job. raise the debt ceiling. that's happened 78 times since 1960. 78 times congress has done its job. that's going to need to happen again this year. >> cnn's lauren fox is on capitol hill. lauren, this morning is congress doing its job? what's the status of negotiations? feverish talks going on right now no doubt. >> reporter: the capitol is mostly empty right now, john, because it's recess up here. but one of the things to keep in mind is that the clock is now talking on this debate. the moment you're seeing right now play out is everyone is retreating to their corners. if you remember, kevin mccarthy, to get the job for the speakership, he agreed to a key concession from hard conservatives on his right. they were arguing they wanted to use the debt ceiling to extract
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maximum concessions on spending from the white house. meanwhile, the white house and democrats are saying they are not going to negotiate. they are not going to have a conversation about spending cuts as it pertains to raising the debt ceiling. everyone dug in. a few players to keep a close eye on, one is chip roy, a republican from the state of texas who was part of the negotiations with kevin mccarthy and has really been a fiscal hawk for a long time up here on capitol hill. another person i'm keeping a close eye on is mitch mcconnell, the republican senate leader who has often come to the table and found a way out of these crises in the past. what role does he take on, and at what point do those talks really start to gain some steam? right now everybody is sticking to their political talking points. at some point over the next five months that's going to have to change. it may take weeks, even months before we get into strong discussions on capitol hill.
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>> lauren fox, it's the opposite of what a breakthrough looks like. we have new reporting from cnn this morning. sources say the president's plan to announce he's running after re-election after next month's state of the union address. >> even after we learned classified documents were discovered at his delaware home and washington, d.c. office. let's bring in cnn's arlette saenz at the white house with more. what are we learning about the president, his thinking and the thinking of those in his inner circle. >> reporter: advisers to president biden say they're undeterred when it comes to a possible 2024 re-election announcement saying a launch could come after the state of the union address on february 7th. that's the time frame his a advisers have pointed to in the past, saying it was likely after the state of the union where he
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would announce a 2024 run. they have been putting mechanisms in place should he decide to go ahead and run for re-election once again. ultimately advisers at the white house believe that the situation involving the classified documents from president biden's time as vice president, ultimately that will blow over. what they believe is so much of the conversation around this is centered amongst what they call the d.c. elite, and ultimately they believe if they continue stressing their message, that is what is going to resonate with voters heading into the next election. i want to read you a quote from one of the advisers who said, quote, it's a matter of public record what americans' highest ply or the issues are from polling and the most important point of the midterms. the economy, cutting costs, fighting inflation, standing up for reproductive rights, fighting for gun reform. the american people care a hell of a lot about all of that. so much of the sentiment that
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you hear when you talk to advisers torques the president, dates back to his time in the 2020 campaign when then candidate biden was counted out. you'll remember the devastating losses he suffered both in iowa and south carolina only to have his campaign resurrected once he made his way to south carolina. there's this fighting-from-behind attitude they had during the campaign that they still carry over to this white house. one thing that officials have also said over the course of the next few weeks, even as all this classified documents saga is on going, they'll stick to their messaging, one of them is touting bipartisan work. simply put, at this moment they believe they will be able to ride out this storm of the classified documents saga and move closer to a re-election bid in the coming months. >> arlette saenz, thanks very much. embattled new york congressman george santos, we're still talking about him.
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he's wrapped up in yet another lie. >> my mom was a 9/11 survivor. she was in the south tower and she made it out. >> newly uncovered immigration documents appear to contradict his claims that his mother was even in new york. we're talking about september 11th. >> something very sensitive to so many people, survivors and family members of those lost. in addition we're talking about his own mother and the circumstances, the how and when of her death. now, this new information shows that his mother was not in new york. she was actually not even in this country during 9/11. that directly contradicts things he's claimed in the past. multiple times said she was in the south tower of the world trade center. that was actually even on his
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campaign website at one point. but this new information from immigration records obtained by cnn, it shows clearly his mother was in brazil between the years 1999 and 2003. also two finer points from these records that really underscore that she was not in this country during the terrorist attacks while she was in brazil in 2003. his mother indicated on one form that we believe she filled out that she had not been in the u.s. since she left in 1999. also in paperwork filed in brazil, in 2001, month before 9/11, she said her green card had been stolen. of course, this is just one in a very long list of claims that the congressman has said. he has not specifically gotten back to cnn on this specific claim, on this contradiction. but certainly a long line of claims about his finance, his
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resume, his personal background that are all being refuted by evidence now. john and bianna he's undergoing state, local and federal probes about these issues. >> sunlen serfaty, thank you. this is a congressman from new york apparently wrapped up in lies about september 11th. it doesn't get any lower than that. this morning the u.s. is set to finalize a huge $2.5 billion weapons package for ukraine. this is one of the largest military aid packages since the beginning of the war, since the russians invaded ukraine. for the first time it includes striker combat vehicles. >> national correspondent alex marquardt has more details. >> reporter: good morning, john and bianna. what's notable in this next aid package for ukraine which we do expect to be one of the biggest so far is both what's new and also not in it. despite repeated on going requests by the ukrainians. what's new and really stands out are the inclusion of the striker
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combat vehicles. these are armored vehicles that carry ukrainian forces across the battlefield, giving ukrainians a new mechanized capability. those will be added to the u.s. bradley fighting vehicles that were committed to ukraine earlier this month in what was the biggest aid package to date. the strikers are lighter and faster than the bradleys. taken together, combined together, they give the ukrainians a major boost in terms of their ability to advance and carry out offensives to take back territory that has been held by russia. what is not expected to be in this latest package are two big things the ukrainians desperately want. first long range missiles that have a range of about 200 miles. also not expected in this package are u.s. tanks. ukraine desperately wants western tanks and the u.s. wants them to have them. but the m 1 abrams doesn't make sense many people say for logistical and maintenance reasons. instead the u.s. is pressuring
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germany to not just send their leopard 2 tanks but allow other european countries who have those german tanks to commit them to the fight in ukraine as well. secretary of defense lloyd austin is meeting with his u.s. counterpart. they are very optimistic they'll make progress on this issue by the end of the week when the united states is hosting the ukraine contact group in ramstein, germany. we have new details about what police found inside the home of the alleged killer of four idaho college students including strands of hair and a stained pillow. what this means for the murder case against him. plus, a district attorney in new mexico is expected to announce in a few hours whether anyone will be criminally charged in the fatal shooting on the set of the movie "rust." what we know about the investigation. later, a big jump in the number of americans who say
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this morning we're learning new evidence about -- new details about the evidence that led to the arrest of bryan kohberger. that's the man charged with the murder of four idaho college students. it includes, quote, a collection of dark red cuttings from a pillow with reddish-brown stain and part of a mattress cover with stains. these were some of the items taken from kohberger's apartment. >> jean casarez joins us. this evidence was taken from the search warrant documents. we're also seeing the application which is fascinating. their argument to get this search warrant at the resident of bryan kohberger is that there was so much blood at the crime scene and there had to be blood spatter and blood cast-off. and that had to get on the clothes of the killer and the shoes of the killer.
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based on, according to these documents, based on the phone records and the locations that he went afterwards, we believe he could have gone straight home after this. we want to show everybody what they were asking for. they asked for blood or other bodily fluid, knives, sheeathes or other sharp objects, data showing any planning that he might have done or how to carry this off. now let's show you what they took. this is the return from the search warrant affidavit. they took a collection of dark red cuttings from the pillow of reddish-brown stain, a pair of mattress covers with the stains, several hair strands, an animal hair strain. remember kaylee had her dog. a nitrate type glove and a
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dickey's tag. a lot of dark clothes for the work wear. this is significant. and also, they did some presumptive testing at the scene which being in courtrooms for so many years i can tell you, at the scene they can do a presumptive test to determine if it might be blood, and they took those with them. i think that's an indication of what presumptive testing might have shown there. also i think the nitrate glove is fascinating because we know the dna of killer was on the knife sheath. but it wasn't from the glove. you can't get dna from the glove. you get it from the finger or the hand or some body part. it's interesting we took that glove. we didn't see in the search warrant affidavit that any glove was found at the scene. >> what a fascinating list, both of what they got and what they were after. jean casarez thank you.
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with us is criminal defense attorney ashley merchant. you heard that list of what they got. what do you think the most important thing now is that they have in their hands? >> the glove and the hair. i think the glove is important because, if they can put any of the victims' skin cells on the glove, maybe the outside of the glove, they can test for fingerprints and skin cells on the inside of the glove. if they can find the suspect's skin cell on the glove and have the victim's skin cells on it. why would he be in that home, why would he have an item that shared skin cells. the other thing, the hair, did it have roots attached in did he have transfer dna from the victims he brought home with him. we're not just looking for blood. we're looking for transfer dna.
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we're to the point in science that we can get dna off skin cell. you can drop a skin cell very easily. if you shake someone's hand, you transfer your dna to their hand. that's what they're looking for, this trace-type dna. >> we know kohberger's lawyers weighed his preliminary hearing until june. what, if anything, does that tell you? >> i thought that's very telling. that's not something we normally do ooze defense counsel, especially if we have a client we believe is innocent. we want to have that hearing as soon as possible. they're required to have it within 14 days that's one of the hearings that, if they don't have enough evidence, your client either gets a bond or they're out while they're trying to investigate more. so the fact that they waived this hearing up until june, that is a very long time to waive the hearing. that tells me that they think there might be some more evidence, and it also tells me they may be talking with the prosecutor about trying to resolve this case somehow.
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>> i want to turn to the brian walshe case out of massachusetts. yesterday there was a court hearing where they revealed all these google searches he made including how do you dispose of a body, how long does it take for a body to decompose, things like that. we do know at least so far they have not found a body of ana walshe. you just represented a client i believe found not guilty in a murder case where there was also no body. talk about the strength of the case here in massachusetts. >> those are very unique cases. they're very hard for the state to prove when there's no body or no crime scene. the jury, there's always that question, is that person still alive. when they have no body, they need a crime scene and a crime scene with significant blood, significant damage, body tissue. i think this is an effort to gather some type of evidence. as a defense lawyer, i know that defense lawyer cringed when those searches were read in
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court. that's very damaging evidence in a case where there's no body where you normally would have a strong defense, you have a strong case that maybe this lady is still alive. but when you've got your client doing these types of searches, what's the explanation? why would they have such detailed searches? these were very detailed searches? these were searches they then have connected to items they found in his home, a hacksaw, things like that. it doesn't make sense unless you've got a reason that you went out and bought a hacksaw to be googling how to destroy a body with a hacksaw and have one in your home. they've got their work cut out for them. >> detailed and numerous searches. ashleigh merchant, thank you for being with us. president biden departs the white house. he's heading to the west coast to take a look at the damage from the catastrophic flooding in california, this as he's dealing with questions about his future in washington. celebrate every kiss.
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any moment now president biden is expected to depart for california to visit the areas ravaged by storms in recent weeks. this morning we have new cnn reporting that tpt still intends to announce he's running for re-election soon after the state of the union address, this despite the special counsel investigation into classified documents found at his office and his home. with me is democratic congressman john garamendi. thank you for being with us. you said the discovery of those documents at his home and his office for president biden was an embarrassment. how do you feel it should impact his decision about whether and when to announce he's running
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for re-election? >> it shouldn't. this is a news cycle issue. the special counsel is going to investigate it. i suspect at the end of that they'll find, yeah, you had items you shouldn't have. but you take a look at the overall work that has been done in the first two years of his administration, and it's extraordinary. everything from the championchips act and the effort to get this nation on a track to deal with climate change. extraordinary legislation that positions the united states for a very good economic future, and all of that trying to spread the opportunity in this country to every part and every individual in the country. it's an extraordinary record. he'll run on that record, this business of the documents, yes, it's embarrassing. he's going to move on and i
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suspect you and i and others will move on to other things, including his trip to california dealing with a climate change issue. we've never, ever had four storms, which we used to call pineapple expresses or atmospheric rivers hit the state. that's never happened before. why? climate change. >> we'll talk about that in a second. i want to say there was a little technical glitch here. you said it should not affect his plans to run for re-election, the documents there. i want to move on to the debt ceiling. you had an interesting response. republicans, of course, still insist they would like to see spending cuts before they agree to raising the debt ceiling. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, your republican colleague was in an interview and said i will not sign a clean bill raising the debt limit. you had a rather interesting response to that. what was that? >> well, first of all, what in the world has this lady become the talking head for the
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republican party? do we really understand who she is, what she stands for, qanon, all those things. nonetheless, the reality is the republicans during the trump administration three times signed off and let the debt limit increase even though it was $7.8 trillion of additional debt that occurred during the trump administration. now that we have biden in the white house, gee whiz, big problem. this should be a routine thing. this is not new spending. this is past spending and it's the obligation of the united states and frankly the constitution says that the debt of the united states shall not be -- so here we go. this is going to get done. we're not going to negotiate this. this is routine during the trump administration. it should be routine now. they, the republicans, control the appropriation process in the
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house of representatives and appropriations always start in the house. if they want to make a cut, they've got the committees. let them make the cuts there and see what happens. >> you say this is going to get done, at the same time you say there will be no negotiations. how do you square that circle? >> simply. we're not going to negotiate the debt limit. that's something that the republicans did routinely during the trump administration. they didn't object to increasing the debt limit then. why are they doing it now? they want to play a political game risking the american economy, increasing interest rates for everybody so they can play a game. i'm saying they don't have to do this. they control the appropriations process. if they want to make cuts, they've got the committees. don't opinioappropriate the mon. >> the president is on his way to california very shortly to
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take a look at areas around your district, other places where the storms hit so hard. what do you want him to see? >> well, i want him to see the destruction here in this area. i have no doubt that he is aware of what has gone on. he's been in and out of california for more than 40 years. he'll see the destruction and the federal disaster program is in place. it frankly needs to be extended. only five counties are included in the present federal declaration. all california counties are affected. that should be extended. hopefully he'll do that on this trip. what we need to do is prepare for the future. i think that's where the president is going to go. how do we deal with this? in the infrastructure act as well as the water resources development act which we passed over the last two years, there is an extraordinary amount of money for flood protection.
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also, particularly important for the west and for california are the development of water resources programs, reservoirs, off-stream reservoirs dealing with our aquifers as well as recycling and water conservation programs. he will and he should talk about all those things we need to do to deal with tomorrow. yes, we'll deal with the current problems as we have in the past with the help of the federal government and the state and local agencies, but we need to really build for the future, and that means climate change. that means we're going to have droughts, floods and atmospheric rivers. all of those things require us to use the legislation that was passed the first two years of the biden administration and build the necessary flood protection as well as the water resources, essential not just for california but all the way across the united states. >> congressman john garamendi,
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tragedy. baldwin filed a suit against the two and others associated with the film in november. cnn correspondent josh campbell is following the story for us from sante fe. josh, this is expected to be a written statement. does it give any indication what sante fe's d.a.'s office is going to say? do you have any indication? >> at this hour it is a mystery. this district attorney has run an air-tight, leak-free investigation. she told me she knows there's outside pressure for her to either charge or not charge. she said she's not considering any of that. her folks are considering the evidence in the case. by all accounts this was an accident. the state chief medical investigator here in new mexico signed a report stating there's no compelling evidence this firearm was intentionally loaded, but the question here is whether it was criminal. that's what investigators are having to determine. as far as who is in jeopardy that they're looking at now. ha hannah gutierrez reed
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responsible for firearms safety, david halls, assistant director who handled the weapon and actor alec baldwin himself who fired the fatal shot that killed cinematographer hall lyna hutch. the direct attorney laid out potential charges that might be considered under new mexico law. take a listen. >> if we're talking about felonies, that would cover an unintentional killing, meaning one that did not have mens rea, an intent to kill. in new mexico it's called involuntary manslaughter which is our lowest level of homicide, whether it's intentional or unintentional, is a willful disregard for the safety of others. that key word is willful. we also have some lower-level statutes, misdemeanors. one is negligent use of a deadly weapon. >> reporter: the three possible outcomes here. they could go for felony charges against one or none or any of these three people. there's also a misdemeanor or
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simply close the case and decide this does not warrant an actual prosecution. as far as the three people i mentioned potentially in jeopardy for prosecution, all of them, of course, have maintained their innocence. >> we will know what happens very soon. this mystery will be over very shortly. we have no sense of what might happen. thank you very much. for the first time this morning we're learning details about the frightening moments after a snowplow ran over actor jeremy renner leaving him seriously injured. >> he is now home recovering after two surgeries and days in the icu. cnn obtained the 911 call made right after the incident happened. entertainment reporter chloe melas is here. what did we learn from this? >> that it was an absolutely terrifying near-death experience. in the background you hear jeremy renner moaning. he's in the driveway of his lake tahoe home. there had been unprecedented snow in the area. he used a snowcat he owns, over
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14,000 pounds, to move a stuck car in his driveway. he did so successfully. gets off the snowcat to talk to a family member. jumps back on it because it starts to roll. he was unsuccessful. we have a little bit of the 911 call made by what appears to be a neighbor. take a listen. >> how is he doing? >> shallow breaths, a lot of pain. he's conscious. he's covered in blankets. don't be drifting off. >> is he starting the drift off into sleep? >> yeah. stay awake. >> the call goes on for 20 minutes. we know that it took authorities and ems over 20 minutes to get to him because roads were blocked off in the area because of all the snowfall, and we also at different points in the call, they say he has rib issues. his right side, yeah, he got crushed up on his right side. so terrifying. the good news is that he survived. he's home, out of the icu and
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celebrating life, celebrating his new television show that's out. he's taking to social media, and fans are just so happy. obviously a long road to recovery. we're still waiting to find out from him the details on what does that look like and how are his legs, how are his arms? will he be able to walk? there are a lot of questions out there. that 911 call, i can't imagine, so scary. >> how fortunate that a neighbor was able to come to his rescue. >> his family was there, they had been in town for the holiday. thank goodness he was not alone. >> wishing him a speedy recovery. chloe, thank you. a suspected russian spy ship in waters near hawaii has the u.s. government's attention. what the pentagon is saying this morning, ahead. niversity of pho, you could earn your master''s degree in lesess than a year for under $11k. learn more at phoenix.edu.
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this morning u.s. officials are keeping close tabs on a suspected russia spy ship off the coast of hawaii. the coast guard has been monitoring a russian vessel believed to be an intelligence-gathering ship in international waters for weeks. >> cnn correspondent oren
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liebermann is following the latest. so how unusual is it to see a russian ship in this area? >> this happens much more commonly than you would expect. in fact, the coast guard, putting out information from the suspected russian spy ship said it is not uncommon. it is often they are monitoring vessels operating and loitering in their areas. and we could put up a map where this is. and look at hawaii's economic exclusive zone. this is international waters and that is where this suspected spy ship is operating, hanging out and there gathering and observing whatever it can and as you would expect, the coast guard and the defense department monitoring what this is up to and what the ship is doing. and of course making sure it stays in international waters. not the first time we've seen a russian spy ship off the coast of united states. in fact, just a few years ago, there was an incident where there was a russian spy ship off the east coast, off the coast of florida. we reported at the time. what made that one different is that the defense department said
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it was operating without its lights and not responding to commercial vessels and that is when you get an incident with something like a spy ship rising up from just an intersection and being raised perhaps even up to the military levels an the diplomatic levels. so we have seen that on occasion. what is crucial here is that the russian spy ship off the coast of hawaii was in international waters and we've seen this before. russia operates in international waters and air space as does the west. think about a few weeks ago when there was an interaction between a u.s. aircraft and a chinese fighter jet over the south china sea. again, international air space and what made that one different and that is when they stand out is when there is an unsafe maneuver raised at the military and even the diplomatic levels. this is something that countries do, including the united states. and this is something of course the u.s. and others keep an eye on given the tension now between the u.s. and russia. >> you don't want any mistakes to be made.
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nothing careless in these situations. thank you so much for your reporting. well in a stunning and unexpected announcement, new zealand's prime minister said she's resigning. and will step down in a matter of weeks. >> speaking at a labor party retreat, jacinda arden does not believe she's the energy to seek re-election. >> today i'm announcing i will not be seeking re-election. and that my term as prime minister will conclude no later than the 7th of february. >> she said this was entirely her decision. she became prime minister in 2017 at 37. she was then one of the youngest leaders in a world. within a year he she had a given birth while in office. only the second world leader ever to do so. >> and she has been receiving a little bit more criticism and her popularity has declined.
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>> it was in the stratosphere. >> it didn't have much more to go. more than half of the adults in the united states say they are unhappy with the quality of health care. nearly half of adults say the system has major problems. one in five say u.s. health care is in a state of crisis. >> cnn correspondent elizabeth cohen has the details. i think people love to hate on thur health care. so what is significant in these results? >> i think that is true, john. i think people do love to hate on their health care. but i think it is even worse now, at least that is what the numbers from this gallup survey show. so let's take a look at these numbers. so when people were asked, this was a good number of people, they were asked 48% said that it was excellent or good. they're health care was excellent or good. 31% said it was only fair and 31% said it was poor. so those numbers are worse than they've been in previous years. no one is quite sure why. one reason might be is that when
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you go back in time to obamacare, around 2009, republicans took a much more dim view of health care. obamacare made them unhappy even if it benefits them. and that may be reason reason why it is worse now than it was back then. another reason i have to think might be the pandemic. that people just saw how under stress health care was and that feeling for how good health care was. >> the pandemic was indeed a big shock to the system. but it is not all bad news. there is optimistic news about how families struggling to pay medical bills are feeling right now, what did the study find? >> yes, this was so wonderful to see. let's take a look at what the survey found. this is tens of thousands of people surveyed by the national center for health care statistics which is part of cdc and in 2011, 20% of americans were struggling to pay medical
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bills. 10 years later, 2021, it was 11%. that is really big cut. which is wonderful. several -- obviously it is not good that 11% is struggling but it is good that it is coming do un. obamacare may play a role. the percent of people without insurance is much lower now blarjly because of obamacare. >> that was a significant decline indeed. thank you. the white house telling congress negotiate to avoid a default now. this as the u.s. is on track to hit its debt limit today. we're live on capitol hill with more.
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