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we're fully cooperating and looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. i think you're going to find there's nothing there. i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. that's exactly what we're doing. there's no there there. good friday morning, everyone. kaitlan and i are here. poppy is off. you heard what he said, no there there. no greats. president biden not sorry for not revealing sooner classified documents were found had his office. insisting there's no there there. a key meeting on military aids for ukraine is under way. c can. actor aleck baldwin responds after being charged for the shooting death of a cinematographer on his film of "rust". plus.
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>> this happens in her classroom no less. she's six. she's terrified. because the person that was advocating for her got hurt. she got hurt. >> a very emotional town hall in virginia after a 6-year-old brings a gun to school and shoots his teacher. the family of that child speaking out this morning. first this morning, ukrainian president zelenskyy is making another desperate plea for more weapons before it's too late. there are signs russia is regrouping and preparing to launch another major offensive. cnn has learned this morning that cia director bill burns flew to kyiv in recent days for a secret meeting with president zelenskyy to brief him on what the u.s. believes putin is planning to do. this morning, defense secretary lloyd austin is in germany to huddle with others. president zelenskyy spoke at that meeting. he said thanks, but he needs
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tanks. >> terror does not allow for discussion. the terror which burns city after city, and i can thank you hundreds of times but hundreds of thank you are not hundreds of tanks. >> the pentagon announced it's sending more fire power to ukraine. the latest package includes air defense systems and a fleet of armored vehicles. oren lieberman is live at the pentagon this morning. he talked about the package, did not mention the word tanks. we know that's what they're talking about z. >> reporter: it's not the u.s. sending tanks we had the list of what they're sending, 2.5 billion, the second largest aide package, the largest package of $3 billion was a
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couple weeks ago, you see a dozen other countries making announcements what they will sent. so weapons are going into ukraine from the u.s. and allies. the key question is tanks. that's where ukraine and president volodymyr zelenskyy are still waiting here. the u.s. working behind the scenes to try to get germany to approve other countries to send leopard tanks, about a dozen other countries have. that's the goal that has not come together. zelenskyy saying time is on russia's side, the world needs to make it a weapon of ukraine by moving things in faster. >> the question people have here, what about the tanks makes them a controversial move. germany is saying we're going to send them, the united states needs to send them as well so we have diplomatic cover here. what's the issue? >> reporter: germany has said they won't send tanks until the u.s. sends tanks. the u.s. doesn't want to send
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its own tanks because they're logistical and maintenance nightmares they won't do ukraine good quickly. the focus is on the leartparata but germany won't approve it. they don't need to send them, they need to approve other countries sending them. you have seen frustration from poland saying they're willing. they're saying they may send the tanks and deal with the consequences. >> see what they decide. the pressure is there. thank you for that report. next hour we'll take you live on the ground to kyiv where clarissa ward is following this quickly. closely. president biden said he had no regrets about how he and his team have handled the classified documents found from his time as vice president in the obama administration. biden weighed in last night as
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he was touring a california town ravaged by weeks of storms. saying he felt the american people don't understand why people are asking about this and not that. >> we found a handful of documents that were filed in the wrong place. we immediately turned them over to the archives and the justice department. we're fully cooperating, looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. i think you're going to find there's nothing there. i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. that's exactly what we're doing. there's no there there. >> republicans have accused president biden of hypocrisy after he criticized former president trump for stashing top secret documents at mar-a-lago. >> when you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor at mar-a-lago, what did you think to yourself? >> how that could possibly happen. how anyone could be that
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irresponsible. >> but the white house continues to point out the differences here. that president biden has cooperated with the justice department and the national archives while the former president refused to give back documents which led to a historic search warrant being executed on the former president's property. and ahead you're going to want to tune in for this. i'm going to speak to former democratic senator doug jones, well, kaitlan is going to speak to him, who has been critical of biden's handling of those documents. former president trump has rarely faced consequences for his long history of using the courts as a weapon. but this morning he may. a federal judge in florida told former president trump and his lawyer they need to pay up. the judge said that trump and his attorney are liable for nearly $1 million in sanctions for filing what the judge called a frivolous lawsuit. trump brought the suit against nearly three dozen of his perceived political enemies, including hillary clinton, james
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comey. the judge not holding back, calling the case inadequate saying it should never have been brought and, quote, no reasonable lawyer would have filed it. this may come as a surprise for the former president who's been known to work the courts since his days in real estate. >> i have used the laws of this country just like the greatest people that you read about every day in business have used the laws of this country, the chapter laws, to do a great job for my company, for myself, for my employee, for my family, et cetera. >> the judge calling trump, quote, a master mind of strategic abuse of the judicial process and he cannot be seen as a litigant blindly following the advice of a lawyer, he knew full well the impact of his actions. trump and the attorney in this case have been ordered to pay nearly $940 million. it's remarkable. this is something that's rare for trump for him to face some
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kind of consequence like this. you've seen how he's wielded the courts in his new york days when he was in office. >> that was the m.o. from the '80s, '90s, 2000s, and even now. he uses the legal system, litigation to wear people down. because the person -- usually the person he's fighting against has less money than him. >> yes. >> so he ends up not paying for work being done or what have you. but now he's having to pay. that's good. there are consequences finally. >> fascinating to see what maggie haberman says about this. she wrote the book what trump did and how he uses this, and this is a tool. >> alec baldwin says he was blind-sided by the announcement he will be charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchings on the movie set of "rust". the his lawyers say the decision to prosecute is a terrible
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miscarriage of justice. josh campbell is in santa fe, new mexico for us. good morning to you. what are you learning? >> reporter: good morning. a significant development here as you mention, authorities plan to charge actor alec baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in the death of cinematographer halyna hutchings. i spoke with the district attorney and they told me this came down to negligence in their view, a pattern of unsafe practices on the set. alec baldwin's legal team said they will be mounting an aggressive defense. >> an actor doesn't get a free pass because they're an actor. that's what's important. here in new mexico everyone is equal under the law. >> reporter: more than a year since the shooting of "rust" cinematographer halyna hutchings. actor and producer alec baldwin along with the film's armorer, hanna gutierrez reed will be charged with two counts of
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involuntary manslaughter. >> this was a fast and loose set. >> reporter: rust was filming outside of santa fe in october of 2021. baldwin and crew members were reheshsing a scene when the prop gun was discharged. >> we have two injuries. >> reporter: killing cinematographer halyna hutchings and wounding director joel souza. santa fe's district attorney insists safety was disregarded during production. >> there were three people if they had done their job, this tragedy wouldn't have happened. >> the fact is, actors are not firearms experts. >> reporter: the director for s.a.g. saying that the district attorney is uninformed. >> the charges clearly indicate a lack of understanding about the standards and expectations of how a film set operates. actors cannot be expected and are not expected to do final
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safety checks and things of that nature. >> dave halls who handed baldwin the gun has already pleaded guilty to neglect use of a deadly weapon. baldwin claimed he pulled back the gun as far as he could without docking it. telling cnn -- >> i didn't pull the trigger. >> you never pulled the trigger? >> no, no. i would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. >> reporter: baldwin's attorney saying it was a miscarriage of justice. an attorney for gutierrez reed said we expect she'll be found not guilty. the family of halyna hutchings saying it's a comfort that in new mexico no one is above the law. now, as far as what comes next in the prosecution. the district attorney told me there will be no arrests in this case. there will be a summons issued
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for alec baldwin and the charges in this case will come before the end of the month. >> we'll be watching and you'll be reporting. thank you. so did prosecutors go too far with the charges? in our next hour, jennifer rogers and ken bellkin are going to lay out their case for and against baldwin. also this morning at least 54 people have died in peru after a wave of violent protests, fuelled by poor living conditions, inequality, with angry workers calling for the resignation of the president. one southern city clashes broke out between protesters and police near an airport and suspended flights. the weeks of protests have been sparked by the impeachment and removal of the nation's former left wing president. this morning the family of the 6-year-old boy who shot his teacher in virginia speaking
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out. they're calling the incident an unimaginable tragedy but maintain that the gun he accessed was secured. meanwhile, parents in the school district are on edge and expressed their concerns at an emotional town hall. >> and our students do not wonder if there will be another school shooting. they wonder when and where the next shooting will be. >> my 7-year-old daughter said she sits with her head down and cries because she wonders if she'll be able to hug her mommy again. >> but to this board, enough is enough. what will it take? i pray it is not a fourth shooting. because that blood will be on your hands. >> cnn's brian todd joins me now. good morning, brian. >> reporter: good morning. >> can the boy's parents explain how this happened? >> reporter: they tried to, don. in breaking their silence on this, the parents of the
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6-year-old boy have given what some might consider a surprising amount of detail about their son. in addition to claiming that the gun was secure at their home, the parents said this through their attorney, quote, our son suffers an acute disability and was urn under a care plan at the school which included his mother or father accompanying him to school. the week of the shooting was the first week we were not in class with him. we'll great our absence for the rest of our lives. they don't say what the disability is and whether there were previous disciplinary issues with the boy at school. when we asked the attorney about that he said he could not comment further. it does not say how the weapon was secured and how the boy might have gotten access to it. we also asked the attorney about that and he would not comment. >> brian, thank you so much. also this morning we still don't know who leaked the supreme court draft opinion
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overturning roe v. wade after a massive investigation. it is one of the worst breaches of confidentiality in the history of the court which now says its investigation was unable to identify a person responsible by a preponderance of the evidence. here's what we did learn from the report. at least 90 people had access to the draft. some of them even told their spouses about it, which is a violation of the court's confidentiality rules. they conducted more than a hundred formal interviews of 97 employees. it does not say, and this is key, if any justices or spouses were interviewed. when we asked they didn't comment from the court. our cnn chief law enforcement and analyst john miller is here to dissect this with us. that's my biggest takeaway. how can you conduct an investigation and don't talk to the justices or their spouses potentially. >> first you have to look at who conducted the investigation. this was not sent over to the fbi, which would be normal in a national leak case. it was handled by the marshall
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of the supreme court. which is not the u.s. marshals that guard the other court. the supreme court has its own marshal. this is an entity in house, reports to the justices. a and its job is to protect the court, investigate threats against the justice. its expertise doesn't lie in complex leak investigations. >> okay. this is an unorthodox question. but cnn was asked whether the supreme court justices were investigated in the process and a public information officer said she could only -- cnn should only refer to the final report. so it's not clear if they were or not. so my question is, do they really want to know? maybe they don't want to know because it would open another big can of worms if they found out it was actually a justice who did it -- do you understand what i'm saying? >> i understand what you're saying. i don't get that feeling.
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i get the feeling that the supreme court i know this because i talked to people there over the years when i was in washington, is a place they confer enormous trust on the employees. like when i was in the intelligence community, they confer enormous trust with people on their discretion, ability to keep secrets, be professional. but it's an interesting environment you have law clerks coming in one-year stints coming and going for short periods of time. that's a lot of people looking at an extraordinarily sensitive document. 126 interviews done of 97 people. that means a few people got interviewed again and then again. so they were looking at a handful of people who they thought were most likely but didn't reach that preponderance of the evidence. >> it's noticeable they say preponderance of the evidence. isn't that something you use in a court case?
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it's in civil, right? >> that's the 4951. and i think that -- i think they had people they liked, but they didn't get there. but they identified a lot of problems. too many people getting too many documents. printers not keeping record of who printed what. you have 36 that were printed by different people, two hard copies handed out. copy machines that don't keep records of what's being copied. so they're coming out of this, fewer people are going to get documents. anything that prints or sends inside or out is going to be joined to the network and records and logs kept. if nothing else, there's lessons. >> when they say preponderance it sounds like evidence but not 49/51. >> they went back and interviewed a number of people three times and everybody was made to sign an oath under penalty of perjury. so if they come back later they
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have that too. >> how do voters, democrat and republican feel about president biden's handling of classified documents, how do they feel about his response? our discussion straight ahead. plus. >> this is difficult to bring up, but people want to know. how is your husband, paul, doing after that vicious attack in october? >> you're going to want to see that answer from former house speaker nancy pelosi as she sat down with our own chris wallace. what she's now saying about how he's doing, how he's recovering. i know what you're thinking - it's cool, i don't want anything too serious either. just a fun, spontaneous ththin. i'm looking for someone who o will let loose. dress up a little. see a show. order the steak and the lobster. some people say i'm excessive, but who cares. i'm just looking for a saturday to remember, and a sunday by the pool. think you can keep up?
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♪ the former house speaker, nancy pelosi, is sitting down with cnn for a brand new interview with chris wallace, talking about the fallout and what the reaction has been like from the brutal attack on her husband, who she said has paid the price for her political career. >> this is a difficult subject to bring up but people want to know.
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how is your husband, paul, doing after that vicious attack in october? >> he's doing okay. it's going to take a little while for him to be back to normal. i feel very sad about it for -- because of what happened. but also, more sad because the person was searching for me. and my dear husband, who is not even that political, actually, paid the price. he's been out a bit because the doctor said he has to have something to look forward to. and so, again, one day at a time. >> i'm just going to press this a little. we see him out in public. but when i've talked to you, your daughter, one of your granddaughters, you all use the expression, long haul. is it physical, is it emotional? is it cognitive? what's the long haul mean in terms of recovery? >> anyone who's had a head
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injury knows that you have to be very careful. you have to be careful about movement, about light, you have to be careful about sound. and it just takes a while, probably another three or four months. according to the doctors, for him to be really himself. >> another three to four months. pelosi is going to have more to say about this in this week's episode of "who's talking to chris wallace" the new episode is on hbo max. the hour long version airs here sunday night, 7:00 p.m. eastern. >> i can't wait to see that. that event really changed her. it did. >> and the pictures you see that's the kennedy center honors, that's his first time in public. wearing a hat and gloves. but it's been difficult dealing with the fallout of that. >> we spoke with awith her
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daughter about it. it's hard for the family. the white house pointing out the two cases between former president trump and president biden with the classified documents is different. we want to see how this is resonating with voters. that's why we assembled this panel of democrats, republicans, and independents to hear what they think. >> i'm going to start with alan. you're a democrat. what did you think when you heard about the biden documents and how the white house is handling it? >> i thought it was shocking about how the white house was handling it. i thought they handled the situation appropriate. they were cooperating with the department of defense, the department of justice, and they did things the right way unlike the trump administration where they basically hid away and had to get a subpoena for the documents to be came up with.
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but i do believe the biden administration handled the situation correctly. they turned over the documents to the appropriate places when it was time and when they needed to be turned over. >> so edward, you heard what aylon had to say there. you are a republican, served in the military for 23 years, what do you think of both cases? >> i think not necessarily looking at how they're handling things differently but what are the similarities? and the similarities are the fact that classified documents were mishandled. and it doesn't matter -- no one is above the law, right. and the rules apply to everyone. there's nowhere in the rules of handling classified documents that says that they get to be stored in a garage in your personal residence for more than six years and no one knows where they're at, what they contain, or anything like that.
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i don't know if we can say, oh, well, after the crime was committed, the person then turned themselves in and did the right thing. or fell on their sword. no. the rules were broken and both cases need to be handled as such. that the rules were broken and we need to figure out why that happened and how it happened. >> do you feel the stamame way,u have the same energy for the documents at mar-a-lago that the former president said he didn't want to turn back over and he hid and changed. >> here's how i feel about that. and that is, the national security is bigger than any one person, right. bigger than any president, vice president, or any of that. and so, when we're talking about these documents, if they're not supposed to be in a certain -- in someone's possession, then that's the bottom line. so we have to follow the rules.
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>> great. so jen, i want to bring you in here, you're a democrat, you think there's a difference between what joe biden did and what donald trump did regarding the classified documents. so how do you see it? >> so i definitely agree that while it is wrong that both presidents had access to these documents. the way they handled it, shows the distinct differences between the two. when you look at the timeline with donald trump and these classified documents the national archives and records administration was the one that reached out to trump's attorneys to let them know we're missing documents. let's cooperate, get this going. it took the better part of a year that trump refused to hand over the documents and that's what led to the raid at mar-a-lago and a special counsel has been appointed, it's gone through the procedures but trump has held on for dear life and said no, and stuck his head in the sand about it. when you look at the biden timeline, these documents were identified by president biden's attorneys in november and they
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immediately notified the nara about the documents. an investigation is held, special counsel appointed, cooperated fully and worked to make everything right. >> we heard from democrats and republicans. i want to hear from an independent because i wonder if independents feel the same way. if people really read that much into the nuances here. if they think both people did something wrong. lynda, lets bring in you as an independent. how do you feel biden is handling the documents? has it changed how you see him? >> from what i can tell here in texas, the president has handled this better than the former president. and the real question is, so what? the independents are sick and tired of all the gamesmanship, gotcha politics. investigativeda shows, it goes and on.
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why can't we have depoliticized government why are we constantly running a presidential campaign. it's endless war internal to our country and it's getting old. >> my question was, does it change how you view or how you see the current president, the document issue? >> not really. because biden is a very experienced politician. and he's got good advisers and, you know, the democrats -- the democrats generally get these things better because they understand governance better than the former president. but does it make him any better to govern? i think that both parties are taking us down these rabbit holes that people are getting real tired of. >> do you think trump or biden, if they are found to have broken the law, should they face consequences? >> i think when it comes down to
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the law, they should. however i would like to add that this idea that biden is handling it better, i kind of -- i think it's kind of silly because right now he controls the narrative. they control the narrative at the doj at his fingertips. i understand that there's a special counsel. all this. but when you make a spectacle out of, you know -- so to answer your question, yes, it should be. but at the end of the day, they made a spectacle out of president trump for political reasons like linda was saying. they're trying to take him down the rabbit hole for campaign purposes and now it's happening to him. they get to control the doj, everything they're saying. so of course the doj is saying yeah, they've been very cooperative. yeah, that's their side. they're on their own side saying that. so i don't really trust the narrative coming out about that.
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>> elaine, let me bring you in as an independent. you voted for joe biden in 2020. if joe biden announces that he is running for president again in 2024, would this be a reason for you not to vote for him again? >> along with a lot of other things. we need somebody else. i mean, we've got -- we've had -- right now it looks like the two front runners are basically a replay of 2020, and we can do better than this. >> it seems like you want to change. i'm wondering if the document thing was that. were you thinking this before the document issue or is this something that -- did the document issue lead you to the point you're at now we need a change, we need different candidates in 2024? >> the document issue
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reinforces, strongly reinforces that sentiment. >> let's say, just for purposes of this interview, if it is joe biden and donald trump in 2024, would you -- you voted for biden in 2020, who would you vote for in 2024, if the two candidates are the same, trump versus biden? >> i would not vote for trump, i know that much. i would be really hoping there's a third alternative. >> okay. so the document issue for you really reinforced that you think there should be a change. >> it reinforces, yes. >> thank you elaine, edward, tie are you, elan, jen, linda. be well. >> always good to hear from voters. >> what did you think? >> i thought it was interesting. i think it's good perspective to hear. this is what the white house
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says all the time, regular people don't care about this. biden said it yesterday i can't believe reporters are asking about this not what's happening in california. but some do have concerns. >> i found it interesting. there are a lot of possibilities here, but it could not hurt biden and still help trump at the same time, if you understand what i'm saying, or the inverse. it could not hurt either of them. i think because of the developments over the last couple of weeks, it could be a wash for both of them. people say they both did something wrong so they're on equal footing. >> trump's legal team would love that. also nikki haley is responding to claims suggesting he attempted to oust mike pence as vice president to replace him with herself. we'l'll discuss that next. powerful relief so you can restore and recover.
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state, mike pompeo, suggesting that nikki haley schemed with j jared kushner and ivanka trump about replacing mike pence as the vice president. nikki haley is weighing in, telling fox news it never happened. >> pompeo even says he's not sure if it's true. i never had a conversation with jared, ivanka or the president about the vice presidentship. what i'll tell you is it's sad when you have to go out and put out lies and gossip to sell a book. i don't know why he said it. but that's why i stayed out of d.c. as much as possible to get away from the drama and the gossip. i did not speak with anyone in the administration about that at all. it was gossip. mike pence is my friend. it was never discussed. if somebody else discussed it, they certainly didn't discuss it with me. it's just gossip. this is all gossip. there's no truth to it. and mike says in his book it's just gossip. >> joining us now ana navarro
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and maggie haberman. >> just gossip. >> i would be worried with a drinking game where the word was gossip. >> i think it's clear he's taking shots at maybe 2024 rivals. >> he writes about her, john berman -- >> he writes about her, john bolton, he generally spares the person for whom he worked other than a passing glancing blow in a couple of places on a couple of key issues. he's writing this because he is looking at the field and seeing what is coming. i will say these rumors abounded in real time. you remember this, i remember this, folks around kushner and ivanka trump denied it. i will say she's not wrong it's surprising to see a former secretary of state who spent a lot of time attacking the main stream media for credibility
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writing i don't know if this is true but i'm putting it in my book anyway. >> that is fascinating. do you believe that's just gossip or do you think there's truth to it? >> i don't know who of these two to believe, frankly. i think you need to put something gossipy in books in because that's what gets the coverage. what i find fascinating is the amount of former trump administration people, including the vice president, the u.n. ambassador, the former secretary of state, who are actively putting on -- actively going through the process of putting on a presidential campaign or nomination campaign despite the fact the guy they worked for has announced he is running. >> interesting. >> so the little effect that donald trump's announcement has had is astounding to me given the support he once had. and the loyalty we thought he had. >> let me follow-up with maggie. do you believe that it's -- that there's some truth to this?
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>> i think it is very possible that there is some truth to this. i have no proof, no way of knowing for sure. i know we were hearing lots of talk about trump floating the idea is pence loyal. we know that rupert murdoch and jared kushner was talking up nikki haley to a lot of people. and a friend of trump's wrote a column how he should replace pence with nikki haley. and i know a friend that called a friend and complimented him on the column. so there are enough dots to believe it. but i'm not mike pompeo i'm not saying it's true. >> mike pompeo was suggesting it in his book bringing john kelly into it. it does raise questions about nikki haley running in 2024. she was asked about this she said if trump runs i'm not going to run. now she's saying something different. >> i had a great working relationship with the president. what i'll tell you is the survival of america matters and it's bigger than one person.
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when you're looking at the future of america, i think it's time for a new generational change. i don't think you need to be 80 years old to be a leader in d.c. i think we need a young generation to come in, step up and start fix things. if i run i'm running against joe biden if i'm that passionate and determined, why not me? >> sounds like she is heavily considering a run. >> that was not subtle. that was quite antithetical to what she talked about before, not running if donald trump was. >> who is nikki haley? >> that's been a question that i think has been looked at for a while, since she was governor. she was pretty critical of trump, remember, in 2015. when he was, you know, making all kinds of inflammatory statements. >> and flying the confederate flag off the state house. >> and she went to work for him and defended him repeatedly. and then criticized him when he was out of office and then tried
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to backtrack. so who is nikki haley is a question if she runs is a question that's going to be asked. >> she's always contradicting herself afterwards. when ever i hear nikki haley, the song plays in my head, will the real nikki haley please stand up. >> what does she stand for? >> i'm telling you, she stands for whatever is convenient at the moment. when she gets blow back, she pulls back. we saw it happen on january 6th, during the january 6th, you know, what happened after january 6th and her, she was critical, then went and apologized, and then this. she's been all over the place on so many issues. and in the meantime, though, she's on corporate boards and i can tell you that nikki haley today is a lot better off financially than she was before being in the administration. so she's been able to really -- she has been able to navigate the trump administration without having great blowback, without being tainted as some have been,
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and monetizing on it. >> i don't know that she's been able to monetize on that politically. >> there could be an opening for her if she comes out of the administration unscathed and is able to use that in a formidable presidential run. >> maggie you have new reporting on a conversation we've been talking actbout all week, whichs trump's campaign and evangelicals. now he's criticizing prominent leaders who aren't retushing to endorse him. >> as disloyal, his favorite word. we heard him say this all the time and nikki haley was one name i asked him about when i interviewed him for my book and he talked about disloyalty. it is a risky game that he is playing. we don't know what's going to happen with the investigations into him. i want to caveat that off the bat. if there's movement it's going to make it complicated for evangelical leaders. but right now he's the only
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declared candidate and they are grateful to things he did in office but they have other options. it was notable, robert jeffers hosted mike pence last week. jeffers is still sounding protrump but the fact he was willing to offer pence an audience i think tells you you're seeing a shift away from trump. will it be enough? i don't know we've seen voters move from leaders and towards trump before but there's a softening. >> i'm getting deja vu all over again. i remember after the "access hollywood" tapes when the evangelical leaders stepped away. when it was clear he was the nominee they stepped up behind him. i also think you're feeling the absence of jerry fall well. >> i agree. >> he's sitting by a pool currently in miami. so i think he was 100% loyal to him. that's a big void that's been left in evangelical leadership.
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but, you know, i underestimated trump and the evangelicals in 2016 and i would warn people not to do that because right now you're seeing it from other politicians. you're seeing it from donors. you're seeing it from evangelical leaders. that they are toying with the idea of somebody other than trump. they are indicating they want somebody other than trump. but if it is trump they're going to line up behind him like he once did in 2016. >> if he's the nominee they line up behind him. the question is what happens in the primary campaign that he's still the only declared candidate. >> i'm still getting deja vu because of the republicans on the stage opening the path. >> can you please stop bringing up the "access hollywood" tape night. >> i will never move on. that america elected the man in those tapes i will go to my grave thinking about that. >> thank you both. appreciate it. a nearly six hour instant
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round of the open in a nearly six-hour instant classic, the longest in murray's career. check out this incredible rally. >> game, murray. >> wow. murray once ranked number one in the world, came back from two sets down to defeat ta-nehisi, but even more impressive in all of this, the 35-year-old is also playing with a metal hip following a joint reservicing operation in 2019. that is incredible. i'm sure our very own chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta will agree with that assessment. sanjay, can you tell us, what
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does a hip reservicing entail and who do they recommend it for and is this astonishing that he did it with that metal hip? >> you know, i think these types of segments sort of come with this disclaimer that, obviously, he's a professional athlete and that's incredible, what you're watching. but it's sort of the point of doing these types of procedures, to get someone back to their level of play and even better, considering that he was probably having troubles with his hip. hip resurfacing versus hip replacement. these are both operations, they both involve doing an operation on the hip, but one -- we can show you images of this. one takes more bone away from the other. so on the left, you see the hip replacement, and you can see, when you talk about a hip replacement, the hip joint is sort of a ball and socket sort of joint. that's what it's like. and you see that ball going into the pelvis, and that's all titanium, that's on the left. on the right is the hip restation. you're maintaining a lot of the thigh bone, the femur, and
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you're just basically sort of resurfacing, removing some of the damaged bone and cartilage. the goal is that hopefully someone can get back to playing more quickly. let me show you x-rays of this real quick. if you have a hard time determining what exactly is going on there, if you look at an x-ray of a -- this is what a hip replacement looks like. a lot of metal in there. and you can see that ball and socket sort of joint that i was describing. andy murray actually put something out on instagram about his own operation, which gives you an idea from an x-ray standpoint what a hip resurfacing looks like. you can put that up. take away the banner. it's at the bottom of the screen there, on the left side of the screen, not the bright spot, that's just some light reflecting. on the left side is his hip resurfacing. a smaller operation. that's it. usually it's for younger people, it's for active people, it's a smaller subset of people who will qualify for a hip resurfacing versus a hip
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replacement. typically, men. men tend to do better with this operation versus women. and typically, it's people in their early 50s or so that have this operation. he was 31, as you mentioned, when you had it, 35 now. and obviously, he's had a really stellar recovery. >> it's amazing to see such massive surgery like that, to see this kind of recovery. sanjay, thank you for explaining it to us. >> it's great that i won't need that surgery for another 20 years or so. >> you're looking great. >> thank you, sanjay. also this morning, there's a standoff underway between the united states and germany when it comes to tanks and whether to send them across the border to ukrainian forces. we have clarissa ward on the ground live in kyiv, next. and alec baldwin will face criminal charges in the fatal shooting of his cinematographer on the set of the "rust" movie set, but did prosecutors go too far with these charges? we'll hahave a legal debate ahe on this. m. we're providing greater access to investing,,
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