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ukraine. and a decisive decade for the world. so make no mistake, we will support ukraine self-defense for as long as it takes. >> but how much and with what? this comes as the u.s. and germany are in something of a standoff over whether to send tanks to the ukrainian battlefield. the top pentagon officials are set to speak this hour. we expect to learn more information about if maybe tanks are on the way. we'll have much more on the dramatic negotiations ahead. plus, in his first public remarks since classified documents were found at his home and office, president biden said he has no regrets. >> i have no regrets on following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. it is exactly what we're doing. there is no there, there. and reaction from hollywood as prosecutors say they will charge alec baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in the shooting death of halyna
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hutchins. in ahead what industry leaders are saying about this case. but let's begin with the war in ukraine. and the major tension right now between western allies over sending tanks to fighters there in that country. >> want to bring in cnn pentagon correspondent oren liebermann and clarissa ward who is live -- i see nic robertson in london for us, looking very different. going to start with you. what are officials saying this morning about the status of this standoff? >> reporter: well lloyd austin you heard him just a moment ago speaking at opening of the ukraine defense contact group pointing to how big this moment is. crucially, he didn't mention tanks. that was not part of his opening remarks and that will be one of the key questions when we get to the press conference where he's expected to speak in a short time. but he has backed up his words with actions. just a day ago, the u.s. auns no -- announcing a $2.5 billion
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security package. here is austin speaking about how critical this moment is for ukraine and for the world. >> this is a crucial moment. russia is regrouping, recruiting, and trying to re-equip. this is not a moment to slow down. it is a time to dig deeper. the ukrainian people are watching us. the kremlin is watching us. and history is watching us. >> reporter: ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy also spoke a short time ago. the first time he's come into one of these meetings. he thanks countries for th donations but he said a hundred thanks does not make up for a hundreds of tanks. we did hear from boris pastor who said there is no decision on whether they will send their german made leopard tanks or give approval for other
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countries to send leopard tanks. and a dozen other countries have these and whether they could convince germany to give that approval. >> just day news this job and what is clear there is no ambiguity in terms of zelenskyy needs is for tanks and advanced weaponry, not in the months ahead but now. >> and president zelenskyy made that clear. time is a weapon that russia is using. time is what we don't have. the concern is that russia may mount a big offensive in the spring. we know late last year they recruited about another 300,000 troops, 100,000 have been put in the battlefield already. but that has given them more months to better equip these troops and it is the attrition on the front line and the sure number of fighters in the front line. the ukraine defense minister told that meeting in ramstein that top of the list in terms of
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what they need is air defense systems. but he also said offensive military equipment. that is tanks, which so far only the british have committed 14 of their challenger two tanks. howitzers, of which ukraine is getting a lot of those from different nations that are partners. also they want more ammunition for those howitzers, but i think the third point gets to a key future of fighting in ukraine at the moment and that is the ammunition supplies are not so well coordinated. sometimes there are shortages where they need more. they can't move it around the country quickly enough and readily enough as they would like. so a systemic approach to improving ammunition supplies is another key thing according to the defense minister. >> so, orren, they want ukraine to get tanks but german tanks, not u.s. tanks. why is that exactly and is there anything that could change that
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position? >> from the u.s. perspective it is what can ukraine learn to use and what it can use quickly on the battlefield and the u.s. said look, the u.s. abrams tank is not what they're looking for. it is a nightmare to maintain and it takes fuel and the tanks they're looking at and the tanks that the u.s. feels are a much better fit are first as nick pointed out the challenge 2-k tanks and also the leopard tanks. lighter and easier to maintain and a better fit as -- perfect the u.s. perspective for what they need. so that is part of the pressure coming not only from the u.s., but also from other european countries on germany to finally make this decision to give it the green light. and there is speculation on this, that maybe the u.s. would announce sending just a few tanks to open the door for germany. we've gotten no indication of that. the u.s. focus has been on the bradleys, the strikers they've announced and trying to get germany to give that green light on the leopard tanks.
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because again it is not german that send the tanks it is the other countries once they get german approval and that frustration has boiled over with poland and who said we might send them and face that. >> the second defense minister is because of the handling of this war. and they're reluctance at times to provide the weapons that ukraine said they need and that other allies support, germany providing. why are they being so hesitant about the leopard tanks and if they're not going to deliver them, why not just go ahead and let the other countries like poland who are willing to deliver them do it themselves? >> what the germans are saying they want to find consensus among allies in ramstein and so far they're saying they don't have it and it does seem that they would be ready to change their position if that came. so potentially within this meeting, although the german defense minister seems to have indicated that that is not going to happen. part of the reasons are historic, of course.
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german tanks rolled through ukraine on the offensive during world war ii, which left germany as a muted military power. historically, since world war ii it has a defense posture and not an offense posture militarily. so part of what we're seeing over the past year at least is germany recognizing that its huge trading partner in russia is no longer reliable. that it is a military threat to germany and the rest of europe. that means a real orientation of the german military and so this is the tip, at the moment, of an iceberg and the change in defense minister is part of that picture as well. massive changes required and needed and an overhaul in the german military machine and the political thinking behind it. >> one could understand the historic sensitivity here. but you have a country, ukraine itself, desperately asking for these weapons.
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so, i would hope at some point they do come to some consensus. thank you. >> if that is nic robertson. we're going to look into that. >> it is not clarissa ward. president biden said the classified documents at his home, he said there is no there, there. >> the first comments in a week, the president pledged his full cooperation. but he also played down the potential impact of the investigation. cnn's jeremy diamond is at the white house with more on this. the president and his inner circle think this is another storm that will, too, pass. >> reporter: there is definitely a sense inside of this white house and also among the president's legal team that they are experiencing some short-term pain here in terms of the investigation, in terms of the way in which they ultimately disclosed that these classified documents had been found. not willingly, but because of public news reports. there is a sense that they're experiencing short-term pain from a p.r. perspective but ultimately they believe that the
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president will be exonerated in this situation. and that is exactly what we're hearing from president biden himself when he said that he believes there is no there, there and that he has no regrets. lis listen. >> i think you're going to find that there is nothing there. i have no regrets on following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. it is exactly what we're doing. there is no there, there. >> reporter: and when the president there said that he has no regrets he's saying that he has no regrets about not disclosing that these documents had been found before the midterm elections. but if you talk to advisers to the president, they will also say that they have no regrets about not revealing it over the subsequent two months before this ultimately came out in the public. the president also making clear that he believes that he'll been exonerated and he's cooperating with the department of justice. that is an intentional strategy to try to draw a clear
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distinction how biden is handling the situation versus how trump handled things when classified documents were revealed at mar-a-lago. they want to make clear, even though we're talking about classified documents, this is a white house and a president that is cooperating with the department, whereas former president trump really hid the ball for months in terms of the documents that he had at mar-a-lago. >> two different situations, but two situations that are now both under investigation by a special counsel. jeremy diamond, thank you. with us now is daniel straus, from the new republic and molly ball from time. so you hear the president saying that he has no regrets and listen to his legal advisers but according to our own reporting, in terms of how this has been handled, we know that he has been frustrated. so how do you square the two sentiments here. one the public, no regrets. the internal frustration. >> yeah, i think it is clear
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that the president is trying to convey a sense of, you know, cooperation and also to downplay what is going on and also to put some distance between himself and this whole thing. you could tell that he's irritated that he continues to get questions about it and would like it to blow over and go away. but time is really going to tell. it is going to depend on what the special counsel finds and depend on the new republican majority in the house of representatives. which is also certainly going to have its own investigations into this matter. and seek to prolong and amplify this scandal. so he's not going to be fully in control of whether this is just a passing storm as you said momentary pain or whether this becomes more drawn out, whether he faces further questions over why it didn't come to light sooner, especially. >> daniel, if i could shift gears i want to talk about the republican nominee for president in 2024. nikki haley said that if donald trump runs again, she would not
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run. now she's saying something different. now she's saying she's considering whether or not she will run. listen to how she answered the question. >> i had a great working relationship with the president. what i'll tell you is that the survival of america matters and it is bigger than one person. and when your looking at the future of america, i think it is time for new generational change. i don't think you need to be 80 years old to be a leader in d.c. i think we need a young generation to come in and step up and start fixing things. >> so daniel, what does this tell you about nikki haley. but more importantly, what does this tell you about the perceived strength of donald trump? >> it tells us all that haley is extremely interested in running. the clip that you just played included some of the most common code words for candidates who are trying to signal that they're about to run for president. and at the same time, it also shows that haley, who wanted to tamp down questions about how interested she was about running
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for president when it seemed that donald trump was in a stronger position in the republican party, has now changed course. it is clear at this point that she's getting impatient, that she's among the number of republicans who are starting to look at being the first through the door as it were and run for president even if donald trump is running now. and, look, frankly, in the last presidential election, that would be unheard of. but there is a sense within the republican party that donald trump is not as powerful, not as locked in as a leader as he once was. >> so, as that field of candidates appears to be growing sand we just heard those words and comments from nikki haley, she intends to run as well. does donald trump still have a holdover the party and could this be the situation, the more candidates there are, the better it is for him? >> that is certainly possible. we could face a 2016-like
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situation where all of the non-trump candidates fragment the non-trump vote and he ends up getting through with a bear plurality, 30-ish percent in some of the primaries. it is too soon to tell. i think trump clearly still has a hold on probably a majority of republican base voters. but we could see by the way this field is shaping up, as daniel said, that the candidates like haley are not scared out of the water. and the argument that you hear haley and others making is an electability argument. she's saying that a better contrast with the elderly president that we currently have would be a younger, more vigorous republican nominee and that is one of the arguments that you hear republicans making among themselves about who would be best to take on joe biden if, indeed he does run, like it looks like he's going to in 2024. >> the math works better for trump even if it does signify if
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they think he is weaker. tim kane from virginia announced he will let us know today whether he is running for re-election. there is a universe where tim kane would have been finishing his second term as vice president right about now. different world than he was expecting a few years ago. now the democratic party is looking at this concerned. they have a tough map in 2024. >> yeah, and, look, as we've seen in recent statewide elections in virginia, republicans could win there. they may have two democratic senators now, but glenn youngkin shows that doesn't have to be the case. that virginia voters are willing to elect republicans to statewide office. and i want to say that among the many staffers i talked to on the democratic side, tim kane is universally popular. he's sort of a dream to work for and very popular among his colleagues in the party. so there is a fear that if he does not run, a lot of what he
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brings to the table, both legislatively, both in terms of working with moderates and libber ats will go away very quickly. >> daniel straus and molly ball, great to see both of you. thank you both very much. what alec baldwin's legal battle looks like after prosecutors announce plans to charge him with involuntary manslaughter for that movie set shooting. and just weeks after bill's star damar hamlin's on-field cardiac arrest, the bills and bengals set to face-off again in the playoffs. what is at stake and the extra motivation that hamlin is giving his teammates. and we're keeping an eye out to see lloyd austin and general mark milley set to answer questions this hour about the billions in new defense aid on its way to ukraine. we'll bring that to you live when it happens.
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new reaction this morning after new mexico prosecutors decided to charge alec baldwin with involuntary manslaughter over the fatal movie set shooting that claimed the life of helena hutchins in 2021. >> speaking with laura coates last night, they called the pending charges against the actor, quote, wrong and uninformed. >> the charges clearly indicate a lack of understanding about the standards and expectations of how a film set operates and the fact is that actors are not firearms experts, they could not be expect and are not expected
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to do final safety checks or anything of that nature. >> cnn's josh campbell is in sante fe, new mexico, where the charges were handed down. so josh, what are we hearing from prosecutors now? >> reporter: i spoke yesterday with the district attorney here in sante fe after the charges were announced and she said that this came down to negligence and in her view actor alec baldwin and the armorer on the set, the person responsible for firearm safety were negligent. and as far as baldwin, he was neg negligent in his role as an actor, killing halyna hutchins but also in his role as producers someone who was responsible for maintaining a safe set. we've been reporting on there were past incidents of accidental discharges with firearms on the set employees complaining about unsafe practices. now take a listen to the sound, i spoke with the d.a. and i asked her of all of the evidence, was there one item, one piece of evidence that sealed it for you, that you knew
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had you to prosecute. here is her answer. >> i think it was the totality of the circumstances. that this was a fast and loose set and that nobody was doing their job. there were three people that if they had done their job that day, this tragedy wouldn't have happened and that is david hall and hannah gutierrez reed and alec baldwin. if they had done their basic duty, we wouldn't be standing here. >> reporter: now attorneys for alec baldwin as well as hannah gutierrez reed, the armorer on the set, they have maintained their client's respective innocence. they will try to fight the charges. now interestingly, the third person that the d.a. mentioned, david halls he handed that gun to alec baldwin. he has pleaded guilty already. and so what we'r charges is that those charges will be filed according to the d.a. by the end of the month. they will then issue what is called a summons. there isn't an arrest but both reed and baldwin will have to
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appear here in new mexico either physically or by video conference and the court will get underway. of course, we've heard from legal experts saying this that case is an uphill battle for the prosecutor. a lot of criticism from the hollywood community, saying that the actor shouldn't be the one responsible for the safety of a gun. so we'll have to wait and see what happens. of course, the prosecutor here will still have to get a judge to sign off on this case moving forward before it goes to trial. guys. >> josh campbell, thank you. for more on the key takeaways from the charges we're joined by criminal defense attorney ann bremer. we heard from the d.a. when asked what specifically in everything that they had learned in investigating these deaths stood out in terms of bringing the charges and she said it was a totality of circumstances. from everything that you have seen and read, do they merit the level of charges that we heard yesterday? >> you know, i think that they do.
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and this prosecutor is very strong in her language saying nobody is above the law. and importantly, i think the key to her case is that you do not point a firearm at somebody, you have a duty, as she said was negligent, you cannot point a gun at somebody. you have to assume it is loaded and then the totality of the circumstances with all of the negligence on the set, using loaded firearms for target practice, not having a safety check, and remember all of the issues about people walking off the set and doing so because of safety concerns. so she's got a bigger picture case and then a smaller much more tragic part of the case that resulted in a death. >> so, put your criminal defense attorney hat on now. >> okay. >> what would your argument be if you were defending alec baldwin if this case does get before a jury, what would that case look like? >> well cold gun. he's going to say i relied on the armorer and everybody on the set when they hand me a firearm,
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that they've carefully looked at every aspect of that gun and made sure it is not loaded. so i just did what anybody would do in a movie set. we have westerns, we have all kinds of movies with firearms and every time there is a protocol, that looked to be followed to me, i relied on these people and this is a horrible thing, it is heartbreaking and i can't believe it is happened to this family and but i shouldn't be on trial because i'm not guilty of involuntary manslaughter with a sentencing enhancement that could give him five years mandatory time in prison. >> and since the shooting death of halyna hutchins we've seen alec baldwin giving multiple interviews in the past year and a half or so and he has vehemently denied that he is responsible and that he pulled the trigger and has gone on to blame others for the tragic death. do you think that, the fact that he spoke out the way he has, ended up hurting him in terms of
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coming down to this charge now that he faces? >> yes. absolutely. when you have finger pointing away from yourself, you have fingers pointing at yourself is the saying. but the worst thing that he did is to come out and say, i didn't pull the trigger. i mean, but guns don't just go off. when there is a prosecutor, i would hear it. the gun just went off. but they don't. you have to pull the trigger. the fbi has determined in this case that he did pull the trigger. there is a latin phrase, false in one, false in all. so that is the way that the case could be portrayed to a jury. he's already falsely said he didn't pull the trigger. and we know that is a lie. >> anbremer, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. the key role bills star damar hamlin is playing off the field in this weekend's playoff game as he recovers from cardiac
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face-off in buffalo. hamlin is now out of the hospital but faces a long recovery after his cardiac arrest. but he is playing an important role in this weekend's game. cnn's sports anchor coy wire joins us live from buffalo with more. can't wait to see it this weekend. how will damar hamlin figure into the game? >> reporter: yeah, well, we shall see. we don't know if he'll be here or not. players are managing this mindset to head into a playoff game along with the emotions the last time the bills played the bengals and damar hamlin's long time friend and his rep told me this morning that while damar still requires oxygen, he gets winded easily and he has his heart monitored regularly and a lengthy recovery ahead of him. he remains positive and ready to overcome and players across the board, they say their spirits are lifted now that damar is back in the building. >> it is been good to see him. smile on a face and guys love
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having him back in the building. >> it is been a welcome sight to see damar hamlin on a daily basis this week. >> so just smile and wave and keep pushing. it is a positive energy bubble that is just floating around the facility. >> reporter: it's been just over two weeks since he suffered cardiac arrest on the field in cincinnati. >> i don't like how he went down. >> we're going to need everybody. all call. >> reporter: the nfl canceled that game but this sunday the bills and bengals will face each other for the first time since that horrific scene and there is no question it will be on the players' minds. >> just something that i can't unsee. every time i close my eyes, it replays. >> reporter: that tragic moment has also brought out the best in humanity. fans have donated millions to hamlin's charity and others are using moment to help raise awareness for heart health. >> donate blood, go get cpr
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certified, just do one thing that could make a small difference in one person's life and that is all we ask. >> reporter: a huge wave of support for heart health and for damar hamlin. check out these, john and bianna. the entire team will be 3-ed up. von miller and players posting pendants they will wear and on the back there is a quote that said if you get a chance to show some love today, do it. it wouldn't cost you anything. positive energy bubble. love that phrase from deon dawkins. back to you. >> regardless of who wins, it is a victory of life, right, for hamlin and to see him there in the role that he will end up playing whatever that will be. coy wire, thank you. hopefully the weather will be better this weekend as well. up next, the biden administration creates a new program that allows anyone to sponsor a refugee looking to start a new life in the united states. i'll speak to an organization that already helps re-settle refugees about whether this can
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we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. - [announcer] do you have an invention idea but don't know what to do next? call invent help today. they can help you get started with your idea. call now 800-710-0020. this morning new hope for refugees looking to settle in the united states. the biden administration has unveiled a new program which allows private citizens to sponsor refugees from around the globe. secretary of state antony blinken said the program called welcome corp is the boldest innovation in refugee
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re-settlement in decades. joining me the ceo of the hebrew migrant society. mark, thanks so much for joining us. a bold initiative here. walk us through how it works. i know it allows groups for five individuals to apply and sponsor refugees from around the world with as little as $3,000 per refugee? >> well, yeah. that is true. but let me -- let me add a little bit of color to that. so the u.s. has been re-settling refugees for many decades. highas has been doing it for 40 years through the traditional settlement program and so we had 22 sites around the country where we could re-settle refugees. the challenges, we had people all over the country who wants to welcome refugees and re-settle them but if they didn't live near the 22 sites, they were out of luck. now, we could re-settle refugees anywhere in the country where we have three to five people, or a congregations who want to welcome refugees into their
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community. yes, the official u.s. government requirement is $2,275. but the fact of the matter is, it is more expensive than that to re-settle refugees. that is the bear minimum requirement to participate in the program. and we actually at highas require that interesting communities develop a resettlement plan where they clearly state and understand that amount of assets they have to have and the number of volunteers they have to have to welcome the refugees appropriately. but it does cost more than $2,275. >> and i know that secretary blinken sold the goal is to represent thousands and welcome about 5,000 refugees from around the world. we're talking about ukraine and i know you're focus last year was on afghanistan. as well, these are lofty ambitions, but i'm just curious, given what we're seeing in other
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countries, in neighbors countries to ukraine and europe taking in millions of refugees, i understand the proximity and the borders there. is this number too low for the united states to be admitting right now? >> well, you know, we have to reach the number that the biden administration set. they set a goal of the overall refugee program of 125,000 for last year. they reached only about a fifth of that number. so we have to do much better. the number is too low. we have to build up capacity and demonstrate leadership. because there is a global refugee crisis right now as you said. not just in ukraine but over the world. there are over 100 million people displaced. 2 million of whom need to be re-settled because they could not stay where they are. so yes, we do need to do better but we understand it takes time to build things back and this initiative, the welcome corp is a great step forward. >> mark, for those americans who are watching and want to extend an arm and hand and some money
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and sponsor a refugee, what could you tell them in terms of guaranteeing background checks and vetting? >> right. well, the vetting is on two sides. we have to vet the volunteers, the government vets the volunteers through the community sponsorship hub and hias do the same for our volunteers who want to sponsor refugees but at the the same time the refugees themselves are vetted. every refugee who is re-settled receives more vetting and more security than any other migrant whoenters the united states. so, there is vetting and the vetting has to take place on both sides. both for the people welcoming the refugees and for the refugees themselves. >> well, mark, you know how special your organization hias is for my family and myself. i wouldn't be here in this country without hias who helped us re-settle as refugees some 42 years ago. so thank you for continuing to pass this forward and for everything that you are going to help refugees around the world. want to come to the best country
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gooding to run for a third term in the senate. >> there you heard it. that was senator tim kane of virginia announcing he will run for re-election in 2024. his decision comes as a major relief to democratic leaders as they face a difficult 2024 senate map. having to defend many more seats than republicans with an already slim majority. cnn chief business correspondent christine romans now -- christine is not with us, but this is big news that we waiting for. >> it came right after we were speculating. >> and he was watching us and he said i have to reassure berman. >> and he saw how many democrats wanted him to run and decided to announce he was doing it. so that happened. we want to bring people up to speed on that. more news. this morning, the cost of eggs have of gone up more than any other items in the grocery store. my understanding it is up like 60%. >> yes. >> and everyone is talking about it. >> that is a lot. and our gabe cohen is here with us right now to talk about how
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what some people are trying to get around this surge by getting their own eggs from their own chickens. >> backyard chickens, started as a trend at the beginning of covid and now resurgence as egg prices are out of control. i know it sounds like a bold move, but it is not just egg prices. we're talking about grocery prices overall, up 11.8%. egg prices here in new york, some people paying more than $11 a dozen. and now just frustrated by the food price volatility and the strains. some people want to invest in their own food source. >> reporter: every morning cassidy fetches a feast from her pennsylvania yard. fresh eggs from eight chickens. an idea she hatched last spring as food prices surged. >> we had seen that the price of egg had gone up quite a bit. and now they've gotten even more expensive so grateful for the decision that we made a year ago.
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>> reporter: the price of eggs is up a rotten 60% in a year. largely driven by a deadly avian flu outbreak across 47 states. that is left some shelves empty. >> come on. >> reporter: inspiring mor>> wh is a wake-up call for a lot of our customers. >> reporter: mike owns my pet chicken when sells chicks and supplies for backyard flocks. he said business is booming. up 80% this month compared to a year ago. >> we're looking at record numbers because people are seeing the prices of eggs going up in stores and they're out of stock. there are people that are concerned with what things will look like for food prices and food availability over the next 12 months. >> reporter: renee built that coop last may and purchased three chickens. with eight more just hatched. concerned with the cost of feeding his family of five. >> i just don't think it is sustainable for people to continue to just pay what
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they're being asked to pay in the supermarket without having an alternative and that is what this is. >> reporter: but his hens still haven't laid their first eggs and he's already spent more than a thousand dollars on this project. >> do you think this will be worth it in the long run as opposed to just buying eggs? >> yes. it will pay off after my first year and long-term if i continue this process. >> but some experts are skeptical. >> you think most families won't save money. >> the numbers don't really work out. >> reporter: bridget is a poultry specialist that teaches chicken owners how to raise small flocks and she's warning them not to wing it because costs like feed and housing and electricity and time and could drive up the average cost of backyard eggs to more than $20 a dozen. >> the reality is that you're going to spend more money on your chickens at home than you are on eggs at the grocery store. >> reporter: but cassidy said her hens are already fluffing
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the family's bottom line. laying eight dozen eggs each month which could cost more than $40 in a store. instead, she's spending about $20 on chicken feed. >> so we're saving a lot. having them in the backyard right now. >> reporter: and she expects roughly 150 eggs a month once the weather warms up. and said that they'll try to sell what they can't eat. >> that is like $70 in eggs at the store right now. so we'll see a return on it. >> reporter: so as you could see, it is not such a simple equation trying to save money by getting backyard birds but it shows the level of frustration that families are really feeling with these food prices. now the good news, guys, the department of agriculture this week is saying that they are seeing a slight dip in the price of eggs but still major concerns about both supply and then again that avian flu, which even the small flock owners need to be concerned about and paying attention to. >> and this isn't for every american family to do. but for these that have been,
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like this family, it is helped them. >> and for a lot of them, they're telling me this is something that i was already interested in and when the prices went up, this is worth it. >> thank you. and thank you so much for joining us today. it is been fun with you. >> it is a great week. >> i'm bianna golodryga. >> and i'm john berman. "at this hour" with kate bolduan ststarts after a quick break. to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just t tell us - what's your why? if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms choose stelara® from the start... d move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every twmonths. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine.
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