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and welcome to cnn newsroom. >> i'm alisyn camerota. today, president biden is going to meet with leaders at the white house. doj signaled that it is going to fight republicans over the committee probes into biden's past. >> we have a team covering developments. we have phil mattingly at the white house, and manu raja at capitol hill. give us the latest on what the justice department is telling house republicans? >> well, we didn't expect that the justice department would hand over evidence into the series of ongoing criminal investigations, but in this letter to house chairman jim jordan, the department of justice says that they are not going to comply with a broad request of a broad number of matters, but they believe that oversight is important, and they want to cooperate, but they want

to balance it with the ongoing need of ongoing investigations. but jordan made it clear, he wants to find out how they are handling a series of investigations into former president trump and current president joe biden and the possible mishandling of classified documents. the letter is laying out the hurdles that he is going to face, and so right now jordan is not getting anything from the department of justice and the let ter is laying out how they will go into the negotiations and how they can accommodate his request, but for now, they are unanswered. >> manu, what will the white house do now? >> they are saying they have just received letter, but the republicans will not take this lying down. they have the ability to issue a subpoena, and we will see how the justice department is going to respond to that. what we can expect over the next several months and years is to be for the republicans who are

now in charge to be frustrated and in some of the demands are not going to be met. this happened when the democrats took control of the house in 2019, and they issued letter after letter, and subpoena after subpoena to the trump administration, and the trump administration did not respond, and sometimes it went to the court, and years' long knock down drag out, and we will see if that reaches some accommodation where the house judiciary committee can get some answers b through are some questions that the democrats have, and they want to make sure that the documents that were mishandled by the president were, did not include any information that could harm national security including one democrat that i spoke to senator ben cardin who says that the president needs to be completely transparent about what happened. >> i want to see complete transparency on how this is handled and brought forward to the american people. i am convinced that there is no intent by the president to do something that was wrong. >> reporter: do you think that this hurts him politically, and

are you concerned about that at all? >> this is matter that the president needs the get behind. he has to get all of the information out, and he has to square it away and make it clear that there was no intent here, and that it was kept in a place that did not compromise the national security of america, and that there are steps in place today to make sure that it does not happen in the future. and there are bipartisan requests of the president's handling of the information and the senate intelligence committee led by democrats have asked for a briefing to make sure that no damage was done to national security by the release of the documents, and when congress returns next week, expect the calls to intensify in particular, and from the democrats as well. >> and phil, to you at the white house, the president spoke out about the mishandled documents and the investigation, and what did he say this time? >> it is interesting in the context here how the white house views investigations in a different manner.

you heard from the house republicans and the white house officials have also receive ad number of documents in regard to the documents, and the house chairs have not responded yet, and they have said that they would answer, but they have attacked the members of the committee in a way of implicitly saying that they don't view any of the questions in good faith that is something to keep an eye on, and they view this investigation in a different manner. the president however, in his first remarks the first couple of days in gave you a good window of how they are engaging in this generally. take a listen. >> we are fully cooperating and looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. i think that you will find that there is nothing there, and i have no regrets of following what the lawyers have told me that they want me to do. it is exactly what we are doing. there is no there there. >> well, i point to two things there that are good windows in

to what i hear behind the scenes here, and the idea of no there there and you are hearing it a lot there, and while they don't have full visibility into the documents discovered, they don't have a sense that this is going to end up with any major problems when the investigation is done, and they don't know how long the investigation is going to take or where the special go and the other is how the president is going to deal with his lawyers and how frustrating it is for us who want to get answers far beyond the political or legal side of things. >> thank you. and now, prosecutor mariotti is joining us. and now the answer ts that the house republicans want, and is there any documents that they could turn over that would not jeopardize a house investigation? >> there are some, but the

requests, alison, they are designed to achieve this response. so, in other words, there are a number of things that the house could engage in oversight regarding the justice department. there is a lot of the high profile investigations over the last few years of the former president had obviously a significant investigation into him, and a lot of questions of how the justice department handles things th things, but i is focused on ongoing investigation, and that is where the court is on their side, and i am not a political analyst, but it seems that they are designed to be result in this result that we are seeing here. >> there is an interesting line here in the letter from the office of the assistant attorney general where they start the second paragraph with, we welcome your interest in department's work. and it is like, we know that you are coming for us, and you have telegraphed this move, but they are also in the pages highlight,

that yes, we expect and understand, and it is appropriate for there to be oversight, but we have to stay within these parameters, because we can't go too deep into even confirming the existence of an investigation. >> well, that is right. if i were sitting down with the house members, and they were asking you, look, what are the requests that you can make that can generate actual documents in our possession, i would say, look, there is a lot of investigations into the former president and how those were handled, and the investigations that are closed, and you can look at the practices of the justice department, and lot of the legitimate questions about the practices that they have, and the political influence on the department, and more generally, and there is a lot that they can look into, but the focus on the ongoing criminal investigations appears to me to be having some political motive and i know that there is a suggestion a moment ago pairing it to stone walling in the trump era, and i don't regard it here, and that is sort of what you would expect from the justice

department regarding ongoing investigations. >> so now the house can issue a subpoena for documents from the doj and so no pun intended, but does the doj have the last word on this or the oversight committee? >> well, the beauty is that neither side has the last word, and ultimately the house has to go to court to enforce this and we have seen it play out in trump administration where there were unprecedented refusals to produce documents to congress that ultimately went to the courts, and i think that the public got to see that it often takes a long time for the courts to resolve the matters and the same thing in the obama administration when there were disputes of documents and records and part of the systems is that the interplay of the branches ultimately can be resolved by political power rather than through any

definitive legal decision one way or another. >> thank you so much to have your expertise. thank you. joining us now is former arkansas governor asa hutchinson, and before, they ran for the border, the investigations and abortion. and so do you think that they are on the right track as they start this congress? >> well, i do. when ever, you are looking, victor at this congress under kevin mccarthy, the first thing is the extension of the debt limit, and of course, we are raising the issue of too much spending that is out of control that we have to have a plan to address. so, that goes to the inflation issue that the american people expect of congress, and the

republicans to address. obviously, when you are looking at the allegations of politicization of the justice department and those are very important questions for oversight hearings and that is expected by the american public as well. and so, you can do the oversight role. you can look at the border security, and you can look at the issues of crime, and so all of those need to be addressed, but let's start with where we are with the debt ceiling, and how this administration, the biden administration has spent excessively that has hurt us in terms of the inflation rate, and europe has done a better job of controlling it than we are, and that is appropriate to raising this issue during the discussions on the debt limit. >> before i go to the debt limit, you are a former u.s. attorney, and the letter sent over from the doj to the house republicans in which they say that any oversight requests must be weighed against the department's equities in

protecting ongoing matters and even the perception that our efforts are influenced by anything other than the laws on the facts, and do you believe that anything that confirms the existence of an investigation or gets to some of the questions about those investigations should be off limits for the house? >> well, they have legitimate concerns about grand jury material, about ongoing investigations and improper influence or revelations concerning those. so, it is really more important as to where it goes from here, and there needs to be a conversation. there needs to be a sense of cooperation from the justice department to provide congress their oversight responsibility, and enough information to address it, as one of the previous guests said, it is appropriate to ask questions about process, and how did you get from point a-to-b, and did you follow the rules or the existing department of justice guidelines.

>> and nothing specific about the investigations? >> i am sorry. >> i got it from you. thank you, governor. let's move now to the debt limit, and this is the standoff where the white house says no negotiations, no cuts, and we want a clean bill, and the republicans say that there must be cuts. when you were in the house, and a freshman then in 1997, there was an increase in the debt limit up to $6 billion, and sounds quaint now, and so, it happened as part of the balanced budget act. there was a fight then, but it got done. there were some cuts, and there were some increases in spending. different environment, but i wonder how you see this ending. what are we going to be seeing in the next five months over the debt limit. >> well, in the end, you have to increase the debt limit in order to maintain the full faith and credit of the united states. and so the end goal is to

protect the financial stability and our economy from paying our debts, and this is what the united states does, and our allies need to understand that and be assured of that, but whenever you see the out of control spending by this administration, it is also appropriate to say, mr. president, let's sit down, and let's have a framework as we can address and bring this spending under control, and this is a good time to do it where we are focused on an extraordinary debt that is at record amount and continues to grow. and mr. president -- >> must those two things be tied to one another? do you say that there must be cuts in order to increase the debt limit? >> there should be a framework to address excessive spending. that is important, and the president should be willing to work with congress to address that. the president should have a framework to control spending. if he doesn't, shame on him.

and so, if you don't have a framework, work with congress to do it. that is an appropriate request by congress, and let's get that done, and obviously, you want to do what is necessary to pay the bills of the united states. >> last one on the debt ceiling here. former president trump posted on social media, quote, under no circumstances should the republicans vote to cut a single penny from social security and medicare, and some say that entitlement programs and everything should be on the table, and where are you on cutting social security and medicare? >> social security and medicare are not something that should be dealt with in this environment. we have to maintain the confidence of the american public on the protection of those two programs. whenever you are looking at medicaid, and medicaid, i have to deal with regularly as a governor, and absolutely, there are ways to control that

entitlement program to a greater extent, and so that is something that should be discussed as to how to control those costs. >> as a consideration of the debt limit cost. >> as a way to control the out of control spending, and most of the spending is discretionary spending which we are concerned about which is the inflation reduction act and the trillions of dollars put out there which the republicans opposed to begin with. so you can address the framework of spending without touching medicare and social security. it is those other areas of discretionary spending that has to be addressed. >> last one here, and you said that you are mulling a run for president in 2024, and listening to the potential opponent here former ambassador nikki haley. >> i had a great working relationship with the president, and what i will tell you is that the survival of america matters, and it is bigger than one

person, and when you are looking at the future of america, i think it is time for new generational change, and i don't think that you need to be 80 year-old to be a leader in d.c. we need a new generation to come in and step up and really start fixing things. >> well, you are not 80, but you are over 70, governor, and what is the reaction to the call for generational change in the white house? >> well, if i did make a decision to run, then i would be the youngest candidate in the race at this point. so, i love nikki haley, and she is a former governor, and i think it is important that we have more voices talking about the direction of our country. her voice is important. my voice is important as well. so we need to have more not fewer that is engaged in this fight for our country controlling the biden agenda on border security, and addressing

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russia by wagner. they are committing widespread atrocities and human rights abuses. >> cnn's oren liebermann is joining us from the pentagon. what does this new designation mean? >> it means that wagner and those entities associated with it not only in ukraine, but other places such as africa and syria, they will face more sanctions from the u.s. government, and strong statement of how the u.s. views wagner as an additional force. the u.s. declassified photos it says that are other russian groups crossing into ukraine to picking up ammo from north korea to pick up ammo and bringing it back into russia. they had talked about this late last year, and these are the

photos that back it up. interesting it is wagner who is using the artillery and the ammo and not the russian ministry of defense, and that is how wagner is operating and virtually a mercenary organization competing with at times and operating independently of the russian military and primarily in a ukrainian city where we have seen them by the u.s. as a high percentage of convicts filling in the shortages of frankly bodies in the russian military that russia is looking for and suffering heavy casualties, and this is where the analysis is coming from the u.s. >> and you know that ukraine wants more tank, and the u.s. is resisting that request, and what is status? >> it does not seem that there is any great progress of making sure that ukraine gets more tank, and there was an announcement of the u.k. sending more challenger ii tanks, but

there was a request of germany and the leopard ii tanks, and there was a request for germany to send their tanks or other countries who use them to send those. poland has been vocal about the desire, and finland as well who met on the sidelines of an international gathering in germany earlier today to see if there is some way forward here, but right now, berlin is not budging on sending the tanks even though it is the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy who said it is tanks at the top of the wish list. and those countries that met on the sidelines with the leopards they are optimistic that berlin is going to budge, and make sure that the west can provide them with tanks at some time in the future here. >> we are really focused on is making sure that ukraine has the capability that it needs to be successful right now.

there are tanks in that, those offerings. poland for example continues to offer tanks and will provide tanks and other countries will offer some tank capability as well. i don't have any announcements on the m-1s and the german ministry of defense has said that they have not made any decisions on the leopards. >> the defense minister or the new defense minister spoke just before that and said that berlin had not come to a decision on the tanks and saying that there were reasons for and reasons against, but we have seen the u.s. putting the pressure on berlin and now obviously other countries are putting the pressure on berlin to do the right thing as poland saying to do to right moral thing, and give it license. >> i wanted to say, oren, that we are getting in a news bulletin from the london bureau that germany has announced $1.08

billion in military aid to ukr ukraine, and thank you for that. now, let's bring in brigadier general steve anderson, and so between the germany's $1.08 billion and the u.s. has the $2.5 billion military aid package which that includes 90 striker combat vehicles, and 90 bradley combat vehicles, and additional munitions for the aerial vehicles, and what is this going to do to change the environment in ukraine? >> this is going to give the ukrainians the capability they don't have. the bradleysst strikeers will allow them to give munition

s to succeed where they have not been able to do. they want to drive the russians out of the areas that i have been occupying since the 24th of february, and also since 2014 in crimea, and so they need the offensive maneuver capability that these veeck also give them, and that is really good news. >> general, at every phase of the war, and to nearly every request from ukraine, there is some reluctance from the west to give ukraine the next level of technology. president zelenskyy pointed out that a few months later, the u.s. and the west just sends it over, and tell us if it makes sense in the context of the tanks held back? >> well, i don't understand the reluctance quite frankly, victor. i believe that we need to support the ukrainians to win the war. thus far, we have been doing the things to make sure they don't lose, and there is a dramatic difference of the two. for instance, logistics and we

need to give them the logistics that they need to sustain all of the incredible equipment that w ability, but we need to give them the air missile defense and the air drones and reaper, and we could give them a-10 aircraft, and i'm not saying to put the american pilots in the seats, but there is a lot of things that we can do to make sure that the ukrainians win and just don't lose that is what needs to happen in this next year, otherwise, we will have a long and protracted war, and the right thing to do is to give them everything that they need. now, i would also add that they don't need the m-1 tank, because it is too big and heavy and it is running on jet fuel, and too difficult to maintain, and we made the right call in giving them strikers and bradleys but we need to help them to win. >> and what about this wagner group as a criminal organization, and what is that

is going to change? >> i don't think it is going to change anything. the wagner group is going to reflect the basic corruption and the entire system of the leadership and the military. they are poorly led and poorly equipped and poorly trained, and they have to go out to get the contractors and they are getting the conscripts, and they are pulling out inmates from the prisons to throw them on the front line, and they are just sending them to the slaughter. the russians are ten years away from having a real competent and professionalized army, and with are seeing it every day. i don't think that anything is going to change by virtue of new designation of the wagner group. they are a still going be bad army and still losing ground to the ukrainians, i think, particularly, if we can give the ukrainians the equipment that they desperately and vitally need and deserve. >> retired brigadier general steve anderson, thank you. okay. we are taking you to live pictures now. this is in washington, d.c.,

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n the middle out and not the top down, and when we do that, the middle-class can have a little breathing room. and the economy that benefits folks in the heartland and the cities and all across america. and so, you know, i know that when, as i said, my family, when i was born in scranton, pennsylvania, when cole dal die and we had to move, and the joke was everybody was from scranton, and think of the towns that you know that you are mayors of, they go through school, and they want to stay where the families are, and the relatives are, and they know everything, and then you have to say that you have to leave, because there is no jobs here. there are no jobs here in my town. i am deadly serious. earnest. and what we trying to do is to not bring back the economy, but bring back the pride, and the pride and the sense of belonging, and the sense of where i want to live now, and

where i want to do what i want to do. that is the whole purpose of the cities to build out, but now they are starting to build back in, and the cities are growing and not just small cities, but the economies as well. you can have a college degree, but you don't need it. two years ago this week, 218 million people out of work, and now it is under 1.6 million, and that the lowest level in decades. [ applause ] the unemployment rate is as low as in 11 years. and where in the hell is it written that we can't be the manufacturing capital of the world. i mean it. it is not a joke. i got so sick and tired of us exporting the jobs and importing the product, and we are now

importing the jobs and exporting product. that is what we are going to do. that is what we are doing. i really mean it. because we are beginning to invest in ourselves again because of you all. over the last two years, more americans applied to start a small business than any year in history, any year on record and make up 50% of all of the economy in america. fewer families are facing eviction than before the pandemic, and families in the community are starting to breathe a little bit easier, but folks, it is not only that, but pride is coming back to american communities, and to american cities. and that is not just on the coast as i said, but it is in every part of the country including many towns and cities and local communities forgotten for much too long. much too long. it is not an accident. it is a strategy. when i came to office, a strategy that we stuck to even in the face of criticism, and a strategy that we put into action, and a strategy to recover and rebuild and invest in america.

you know, i have to take a second to digress a second, because we used to invest 2% of the gdp into development, and then along the way, we stopped investing in america, and in research and development, and now we are investing 0.7 of 1%, and we used to be number one, and china was number two, and now it is things that allowed to happen, and it is not conscious, but it slipped up on us. and the way in which we changed and dealt with the corporate law and a whole range of things, but we are changing it. we are changing it. as i said, we are going to export product and not jobs. with your support, i signed into law the rescue plan to deliver immediate economic relief to family hs and communities that need it the most. >> you are listening to president biden speak to the conference of mayors there list off some of his accomplishments and talking about investment and legislation, and highlighting

mayors in his administration, and this is starting the back half of the term. two years ago today, the president was inaugurated there january 20, 2021, and the president is speaking to a group of mayors at the white house. we will continue to listen if any news comes out of that. >> and also happening in washington is a group of anti-abortion activists are marching. >> and many advocates say that even though roe was overturned, the work is not done. brian todd is there with the marchers and what are you hearing from the people around you? >> well, victor and aliyson, ths is a pivotal moment, and they are celebrating the overturning of roe v. wade, but there is a question of where does goit from here. i am here with a family of seven

from upstate new york, and melanie is here with her husband and five children, and she has been walking and walking in lock step the whole time, and melanie, with the overturning of roe v. wade, what is the main motivation for coming at this point? >> we want the lawmakers to know that the right to life is the most fundamental right. we must protect the unborn and all people of all stages of life. >> and fernando, this is fernando, her husband, and with the overturns of roe v. wade, do you think that the movement and the tactics to the approach have to change, and if so, how? >> it doesn't have to change, because it is changing hearts and minds and the changing of the legislation is one step, but the mission is changing hearts and the minds of people to understand the truth about it. >> all right. thank you for talking to us, and thank you for showing us your beautiful family and good luck. >> thank you. >> reporter: so, guys, this is a mar thatch is symbolically stopping in front of the supreme court, and of course, it is

stopping here now in a couple of moment, but they say that symbolically, what they want to do is to show that they are stopping in front of the capital to show that it is a fight from the supreme court to the legislatures and a lot of the marchers are telling us that they want to keep it now, and turn it more into the grass roots movement to go door-to-door to get the agenda across, and one woman wants to stop the flooding of abortion pills in the country since roe v. wade was overturned, and things like that of how the tactics have to change for the anti-abortion movement, and they are not maybe holding as many marches like this in washington, but some say they want to take it to all 50 states. >> that is so interest, brian. because so many people are looking young, and we are looking at teenagers and 20-somethings, and so it is a generational grass roots movement. >> there is a banner that says

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the actor's job to be a firearms or weapons expert. let's bring in master armorer and the founder of firearm safety. dutch, great to have you here. was it alec baldwin's responsibility to check the gun and make sure there were not real bullets in there? >> well, it's not a simple situation. this is not a shooting range. it's a film set. understand that the role of a prop master and an armorer is to create an environment that's realistic as possible for an actor, and at the same time, entirely safe. he has grown confident in the crew around him to not only -- he's not going to hurt anybody. they choreographed these g gunfights so nobody gets hurt. >> dutch, sorry to interrupt you. in other words, it's not his responsibility?

>> no. here's the thing. ultimately if someone walks right in front of the barrel of the gun and he's ready to fire when the camera's rolling, that would be the moment where he would point the gun up or not fire. we make it ready to go. we do it under their watchful eye and hand it to them and they go. it's not his mandatory responsibility to check the gun. it is not. >> so we're having a couple of technical difficulties, but we're going to try to get as much out of this interview as we can. if not alec baldwin's responsibility, whose responsibility is it? where does it land? >> this event -- the hiring practices, by hiring people that had inadequate training, experience, paying very little, having not enough prep, and the vendors they chose. the person that supplied actual live cartridges and marked them as dummies, that's one of the

biggest things in this case. not a lot of people are talking about that, but as you work your way down the food chain, the prop master, very inexperienced. the armorer very inexperienced, and they didn't do the due diligence or practices of checking each of the blank rounds or dummy rounds to make sure they are what they say they are. >> dutch, we're so sorry we're having technical difficulties where your audio is dropping in and out, but we always look forward to talking to you because you have so much experience with this. thank you for your time, and being here today. >> ungthank you, dutch. the new twist following the arrest of a republican accused of plotting to shoot up the homes of political rivals. investigators now looking into whether his campaign was partly funded by fentanyl sales. his attorney is going to join us ahead.

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an arraignment will take place this afternoon for the five colorado first responders who were indicted in the death of 23-year-old elijah mcclain. >> he died six days after a violent encounter with police when he was injected with the drug ketamine to sedate him. n now, one of the most difficult moments of the body cam footage you're about to see is when mcclain pleads with officers related to his mental health. >> let go of me. no, let go of me. >> chill out. >> i am an introvert. please respect the boundaries that i'm speaking. >> just relax. >> stop. i'm going home.

>> cnn's lucy kavacavanaugh is in colorado. remind us what we just watched and ultimately these first responders were indicted on. >> reporter: yeah, victor and alisyn. the five defendants are expected in court in less than an hour to enter their pleas. this is after months' delay. three police officers and two paramedics were indicted on charges of manslaughter and negligent homicide in the death of elijah mcclain. the exact cause of death is still to be determined or at least in question. now back in august of 2019, mcclain, a young black man, was walking home from a convenience store with some iced teas. he was listening to music in his headphones when he was confronted by three aurora, they were responding to a call about a suspicious person, and even though he doesn't doing anything wrong, the police

attempted to apprehend him. one of the officers tried to restrain mcclain with a chokehold to the neck that has since been banned, causing him to briefly lose consciousness. the other two officers helped him restrain him on the ground despite repeated pleas. the paramedics injected him with ketamine. it turned out it was too much for his body weight and he died a few days later. brain dead, then dead at 23 years old. now the initial autopsy report listed the cause of death as undetermined, but it was amend it to say his death was caused by complications from that ketamine injection following restraints. the manner of death remains undetermined. they have been pointing fingers at one another as to who was responsible for the death. the judge ruled there will be three separate trials. former officer nathan woodyard, the one who performed the

chokeholds, will be held separately. the other officers will be tried together, and the two paramedics will also be tried together, and i should note that elijah's death, guys, almost slipped through the cracks. initially the local d.a. didn't even take the case up, saying there was not enough evidence. it took statewide protests in the aftermath of the killing of george floyd for the state attorney general to gather and convene this secret grand jury which is why we are now here today. guys? >> it's amazing. it's just amazing to see what happens when you shine a light on something. l lucy, thank you. after that t-mobile hack last year, that involved the personal data of 30 million customers. we'll have more on that in the next hour .

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