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how quickly and how easily it came off, how much better i felt, what a change it made so fast. i feel like anything is possible after accomplishing what i've done with golo. it's the top of the hour on "cnn newsroom." i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. the department of justice just delivered a major blow to the new gop-controlled house. in a letter to chairman jim jordan, the department signaled it may not fulfill house requests for information on ongoing investigations. >> as you know, there are now special counsel investigations into how president joe biden and former president trump handled classified material. cnn's sara murray and jessica dean join me now.
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what does the letter from the justice department say? >> reporter: jim jordan has asked doj for all kinds of things, all kinds of documents and staff briefings and in this letter, they're saying, thank you so much for your interest, but here are the guidelines around what we're going to be able to give you and most importantly, it's not a lot when it comes to ongoing criminal investigation. here's a portion of that letter. it says, consistent with longstanding policy and practice, any oversight requests must be weighed against the interest and protecting the integrity of its work. policy prevents us from confirming or denying the results of pending investigations in response to requests or providing nonpublic investigation about our investigations. so essentially, we're not going to be able to give you a whole lot when it comes to ongoing criminal investigations and as you said, we have heard from jim jordan and a number of other house republicans. they are very interested in learning more, especially about the special counsel about donald trump's handling of donald
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trump's documents and joe biden's documents. >> what are lawmakers there on capitol hill saying about the response from the justice department? >> reporter: along with the rest of us, just like the last little bit, we're waiting to see how they're going to respond. a couple of things to keep in mind, republicans in these panels, they have subpoena power, and i think it's a safe bet to think that they will use that and deploy that at some point. they certainly want to get their hands on these documents or as much information as they possibly can. this is setting up a familiar dynamic frankly we've seen on the hill house democrats and the then-trump administration. remember, they were trying to get their hands on documents. they eventually had to go to court. it became this long, lengthy legal battle that really played out months, even years in some cases. could that be the case here? that's certainly a potential at this point, but you can bet that republicans, this is just their
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first strike here. this is just their first go at this. there will be attempts to get this information. they'll keep going back to that, and keep going back to that subpoena power they have, victor and alisyn. the question becomes, what if any, and how much of this information might they be able to get their hands on in the next two years. >> okay, jessica dean. sara murray, thank you very much. let's bring in dave aaronberg, and cnn political analyst, astead herndon. great to have you both here. dave, you heard how this is going to go. you've seen this movie before. the republicans in the house are going to subpoena these documents. we assume the doj will fight that. it'll go to court and be tied up in court for months or years. is there any other option here? any other path that you see? >> well, wethey can try and negotiate, but this is not a good faith effort by jim jordan. he wants to win points in far-right media, and he'll do so. he'll win by losing. he had a sudden change of heart
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about the importance of complying with subpoenas. jim jordan refused to follow his own subpoena. he subscribes to subpoenas for thee, but not for me. there's a reason why prosecutors can't discuss pending investigations. it alerts suspects where you don't want them to be told what's going to happen, and you have problems with possibly having a sixth amendment violation of a right to a fair trial for the ultimate defendant. they're got going to get this stuff no matter how hard they try. >> that seems to be the point here, is to create the image or act for things that you know they're not going to give so you create the image of a stonewalling administration or white house and potentially sets up the narrative for this congress. >> absolutely. jim jordan is not surprised by this response. this would be one that the house
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republicans are expecting. what they see this as is a first step for an ongoing set of back and forth between this white house. to your point, they're going to paint this as a white house that's not responding to their concerns. it's a hypocritical stance from republicans left and right during the trump administration. what they're betting on is this is going to paint the biden administration in a shady, negative light. this is where the trump base also wants the republican congress to really push on. this is why some of those holdouts were so emboldened against speaker mccarthy. they see this as the first step, definitely not the last. >> astead, i have a different political question for you and that's about the classified documents found in president biden's home and office. president biden spoke out about it yesterday and said, he has no regrets. they're following the letter of the law in terms of turning them over, or the protocol, and he has no regrets. politically speaking, okay? not ethically or morally. if they had done it earlier,
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would that have helped them? if they had disclosed to the public before the new congress, would that have been a political win or loss? >> yeah. i mean, it's just so hard to say. i want to shout out the new reporting from my colleagues, in the "new york times." the white house is explaining that gap in time before they told the public kind of what has become clear, skand it seems clr the white house's bet on this front was providing a different type of legal cooperation than the trump administration provided in their time, and it would kind of cool the justice department off of seeing these as a thing to continue. that did not become the case, but we should not ignore the politics here. this came just days before the midterm elections where the white house was part of a democratic effort to paint republicans as bad stewards of democracy. it is not surprising to me that the politics of that also line up with where the white house landed.
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that's going to be the question though. will these republican efforts continue to chip away at that narrative that the white house is trying to put forward, which is to say they've cooperated legally, and because though saw the differences between him and trump, that meant they did not have to disclose before the midterms, even though that would have been a big topic for voters heading into the election. >> dave, the president said there's no there there, that the special prosecutor investigators will find that out. he bemoaned the attention focused on this, versus on what was happening in california. i feel like we have been desensitized to the last administration to a president deriding a special counsel and the attorney general because trump did it nearly every day. is it problematic that the president has spoken about this? would you advise him, to even in the measured way he has, to just say nothing or are these disclosures or descriptions fine? >> he should probably say less. he's creating a political problem for himself when he
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talks about how the documents were locked in his garage next to his car, but from a prosecutor's standpoint, he doesn't have a legal problem yet because the only way the department of justice is going to prosecute him, and they can't prosecute a sitting president, mind you, but if they ever do, it would be for something like obstruction, or you have to show intent, and none of those exist here. yeah, he probably should have announced the investigation early on, the finding of the documents, but that's a political problem, not a legal one, and remember, victor. we wouldn't even be here today talking about this issue if the biden team did not alert the archives of finding these documents. if they really wanted to obstruct, they could have tossed them aside. they told the archives about it who then told the doj and that's how the public found out. >> dave, but i have heard other attorneys like you saying, he shouldn't say this. his lawyers wouldn't want him to say this. what's wrong with saying there's no there there? how's that going to jeopardize anything? >> alisyn, i think he should.
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biden is trying to be different than trump. instead of deriding prosecutors, he's cooperating with them. this is different than a typical defendant. this is the sitting president of the united states. he has different concerns. he wants to be transparent, and if you just clam up and say nothing, that's the opposite of transparency. that's not what people want. at the same time, you don't want to give too much, like, say. they have it locked up next to my car, and that doesn't look good, and that's a political issue. so i think there is a balance where his lawyers should allow him to say something, but not too much. >> it wasn't a car. it was a corvette. >> it was a corvette, david. >> yes, corvette. >> not just any car kbl right. >> thank you both. so today, the treasury department said it plans to designate the russian mercenary organization group as a transnational organization. >> they describe the intel that led to this decision.
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>> as we have said, north korea delivered infantry rockets and missiles into russia for use by wagner toward the end of last year. wagner is a criminal organization that is continuing wide -- i'm sorry. committing widespread atrocities and human rights abuses. >> nic robertson is cnn's diplomatic editor, and we have jill, our moscow chief. nic, what designates this as a criminal organization? what will happen? >> reporter: it'll make it harder for them to do business around the world. they've become a part of the russian state in some ways, extending their influence and money-making abilities from africa to the middle east in syria, and they've become a very effective fighting force in ukraine. so blunting them is to -- blunting their abilities and trying to cut off money to them is the blunt of their effectiveness, and their effect
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for putin. >> jill, we heard from john kirby today that there is some concern within the russian government about the recruiting practices of the wagner group. 80% of their mercenaries and fighters are convicts and there's also some disagreement over taking credit for the fight in soledar. how fraught is the relationship between the wagner group and the russian government and military and putin? >> you know, there's definitely tension between them because as the wagner group used to be kind of in the shadows before all of this came out, and so now they're very much public, and they have been claiming that they were the people who went into soledar and defeated the ukrainians, et cetera, and criticizing the regular russian military for not being able to do that. for essentially screwing up the war. so this is really, i think,
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significant back and forth between those two groups. it looks as if now you've got the government -- putin's government congress out more on the side of the regular military, but wagner is really important. it is estimated that they have 50,000 fighters in ukraine right now. 10,000 are contractors, and the other 40 are prisoners who were let out in order to fight, and they have money. they're backed by oligarchs. they're an important part of what russia is trying to do in ukraine, unfortunately. >> nic, we've learned that the cia chief, u.s. intel officials are briefing or have briefed president zelenskyy about this coming russian offensive. what do we know about what that would look like? >> reporter: the potential is for russia to have reequipped and retrained a large number of troops. we know that they said that they recruited about 300,000 forces
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towards the end of last year. it's believed they committed about 100,000 of those to the fight in ukraine already. there's potentially an estimated 100,000 to 150,000 of them left who well could have been given the training that all of those that have been used as cannon fodder on the front lines haven't been given. just this week, putin visited a fac factory, and commended the men for their work, told them how important it was, mentioned that they were working 24/7, three shifts a day to keep production of armaments high because that's what's required. you know, it seems at the moment, that russia is getting itself ready to launch another offensive, and the clock is ticking on that, and that's made the conversations in germany about the possibility of sending tanks to ukraine all the more pressing. ukraine is listening to that sort of intelligence, and unlike the time before the war a year
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ago when they said that they didn't believe an offensive was coming, this is much more critical. russia, if it comes back with a big push with better trained, better equipped forces, better organized than previously, this is a potential worrying and dangerous threat for ukraine right now on the front lines in the east. >> jill, is it likely? are there signs that russia will be able to come with that better trained, better equipped, better strategized, better led fighting force in the spring? >> they may have learned something, you know, from bringing in during the last mobilization that started in september when you had a lot of regular guys from big cities being pulled into the military. they were -- there were multiple reports and we've talked about this, where they went into the field with very limited kit, you know, not enough weapons, not enough supplies. their families were providing some of what they needed, but --
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so it appears that the kremlin has improved on that, but it's still -- the way they command their troops or the preparation is not at all on the level of what nato does. so it's -- it's a matter of personnel and weapons and strategy, and that's where the russians often fail. >> jill dougherty, nic robertson, thank you both. first on cnn, new mexico's attorney general has launched an investigation into solomon pena's campaign finances over allegations that narcotics funded part of it. this is the man who allegedly orchestrated shootings that targeted democrats. we're going to talk to his lawyer about it all when they join us. also ahead, an illinois judge is set to rule on a lawsuit that challenged the state's assault weapons ban. we're live in chicago with those details. so you only pay for what you need.
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first on cnn, the new mexico attorney general taking over the investigation into failed republican candidate solomon pena's campaign finances and other crimes. pena has been charged with masterminding the shootings at the homes of four democratic officials. now officials are investigating whether he received campaign contributions made with illegal fentanyl sales. campaign finance documents reveal the largest cash contributor to pena's campaign was a man named jose trujillo. he was arrested with a car with fentanyl pills, nearly $3,000 in
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cash, and a gun that matched one of the ones from the shootings. joining us is the attorney for solomon pena. thank you for being here. how does your client, pena, know jose trujillo? >> in terms of how my client knows jose, that matter is still under investigation. i don't know specifically what the relationship, if any, is, and i would just like to remind everyone that this case is at the very, very early stages of its investigation. the state has not yet had to produce their evidence to me. the deadline for them to do so hasn't yet come up, so there are a lot of unknowns. >> sure. it seems -- it appears as though they have a relationship because here's a photo of them. they're in a car together. this is solomon pena and jose
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trujillo. as we know, he was also arrested, this gentleman, on the screen right now in pena's car, and he also is the person who made the largest campaign finance contribution to pena's campaign of $5,100 though he said he was homeless at the time. did pena, your client, find that suspicious? >> i can't comment on that. i don't know what representations were made by mr. trujillo in terms of his claim that he may have been homeless. i have yet to see that evidence, and i have no information whatsoever on this newest announcement from the attorney general that they're investigating some kind of link or relationship between a campaign donation and whatever activities that jose trujillo was alleged to be involved with. >> do you know if your client,
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solomon pena, is, or has ever had any involvement with illegal drugs? >> i can't comment on that. i haven't seen any proof of it. >> okay. so you have no evidence of that, but you don't know if he is or isn't. >> the state has never shown any evidence or hasn't given any evidence to me to support that type of claim. in addition to that, i'm not aware of any type of involvement with -- of my client with any type of illegal narcotics. >> yes. it's just that the 900 pills of fentanyl according to this arrest warrant were found in his car. >> in the possession of jose trujillo. allegedly in the possession of jose. these are all just merely accusations. they all still need to be tested in a court of law. >> right. so here's a couple more things that we do have and we can see with our own eyes. solomon pena went to the home of one of his democratic opponents.
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this is of debbie o'malley, looking for her. so first he went to the wrong house. let me play you this moment. >> hello? >> hi. hi name's solomon pena . can i speak with debbie o'malley? >> she doesn't live her anymore. >> the public record says she owns o owns it. do you know where she lives? >> yeah, she lives around the [ bleep ]. >> okay. sorry for bothering you. >> that's okay. >> what has he told you about why he was looking for her? >> so let me just back up a brief moment. debbie o'malley was not my client's political opponent. debbie o'malley is an elected official. she was not my client's opponent, and from whant i understand, of course, there has been a lot of reporting. there has been a lot of information that's been made
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public through the filings in the court record that -- that my client had some concerns about the outcome of the election. i don't know what mr. pena wanted to discuss with ms. o'malley. i think that would probably be a question to ask ms. o'malley. >> yes, and we did have her on. i'm glad you is ed that. we did have deborah o'malley on. she's the commissioner and he was running for the state legislature. he then showed up at her real house and we have video of this that i can play for you, and he asked her to come outside. she came out. they had a discussion. over her, he's waving out there, and they had a discussion over her gate, and she described him to us as being agitated and aggressive. he was angry that he lost the election, basically, and, you know, i guess skeptical that he lost the election? he's denied losing the election. so what has he told you about all of that? >> i can't comment on anything that i discuss with my client.
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again, my goal is just to remind everyone that my client is entitled to a fair trial, and the presumption of innocence exists, and i don't know anything else about the discussions that he may have had with ms. o'malley. >> roberta yurcic, we appreciate your time. we'll be following this very closely. thank you. constituents of george santos are speaking out about the web of lies the congressman has weaved. we'll hear from them, ahead. hey, man. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need! whoo! we gotta go again. ononly pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty liberty♪ ♪liberty♪
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next hour in illinois, a ruling is expected on one of three lawsuits challenging that recently passed ban on assault weapons. the democratic governor signed the law last week and it enforces a statewide ban on the sale of certain firearms, high capacity magazines and automatic switches that can alter a handgun. whitney wilde joins us from chicago. tell us about these lawsuits. what's in them? >> reporter: so there are three lawsuits as you mentioned. one is a federal lawsuit. two are filed in state court and they're making sloightly different arguments. one is saying this violates a list of rights specifically, you know, when it comes to the second amendment, it violates specific rights of the
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congressman george santos' list of lies growing even longer this week, and his constituents are taking notice. cnn's miguel marquez caught up with voters in nassau county, new york, about how they feel about their new representative. >> would you like speaker mccarthy and the republican leadership to freeze him out, to ask him to resign? i mean, does something more need to happen from that level? >> yes. i think they should get rid of him. >> what would you like to see now? would you like to see him leave office? what would you like to see? >> well, i guess he has to leave office because of everything that he pretended that he was, when he wasn't. however, i'm kind of, like, up in the air. i didn't donate any money, so i don't have that up against me. >> hm.
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cnn's gary tuckman spoke with a group of students to learn how santos' lies are resonating with the next generation of voters. >> court washington, new york, schreiber high school in nassau county of new york is in representative george santos' third congressional district. >> i think he's an embarrassment and a pathological liar. >> reporter: we sat down with a group of ap u.s. history students. they are 16 and 17 which means they will all be old enough to vote in 2024. how many of you would register as an independent if you registered today? how many of you would register as a democrat? how many of you would register as a republican? their history teacher estimates republican-leaning students are outnumbered by democratic-leaning students at this sdchool, but --
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>> i haven't found one student who is siympathetic to george santos. even if they agree, they don't have sympathy to the man. >> reporter: this is one of the future democrats. >> i think it's a very scary situation for us, having so clearly lied and fabricated his entire razesume, representing a of us. >> reporter: this is one of the republicans. >> i like how the the gop came out against him, but i think mccarthy should come out against him and expel him from congress. >> reporter: i asked if we could watch a discussion about santos. >> it places distrust on your party. what's your reaction to knowing your representative's integrity has been called into question? >> it's kind of shocking because how could you -- how could you
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trust them? if you can lie about just, like, your life and everything you've done, how can you trust them to do the right thing? >> how are his lies perhaps different than others or is it fair game to lie in politics? >> i think one of the worst things that he lied about in my opinion is lying about the origin of his family, being that they were from -- they were survivors of the holocaust. >> well, i think that obvious thing and he's using things directly correlated to our lives to make himself sound better because we have emotional attachment to these events. >> especially in politics, like, your reputation will stick with you. everyone will remember him as he's the fieguy that lied about everything and still got into congress. >> do we care about integrity? >> we think about it because we'll be applying to colleges
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soon. if a college found out we lied about everything on our application, they would immediately kick us out, but he lied about everything and he gets to stay. we're being held to a higher standard of integrity than plingss in this country. >> reporter: we asked our panel of students this question. you're a constituent of congressman santos. if you could say one thing to him, what would you say to him? >> i just want to know why he felt the need to do all this. >> what would you say to him? >> if you really want to represent our district and you care about the voters and the people, you should resign. >> what would you say? >> resign to keep democracy working properly. >> you? >> apologize and resign now. it's enough. >> you? >> for the good of the constituents of new york's third, resign. >> you? >> foruyour district and your party, resign. >> you? >> step down. >> gary tuchman, cnn, port washington, new york. >> smart kids. >> yeah. >> i feel a lot of optimism when i hear from that generation.
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they're really sharp and plugged in. >> if you didn't attend those schools or work at these companies, where did he go? >> i don't know. >> what did he do? >> i don't know. >> so many questions. all right. the bills, the bengals. the bengals -- i have been calling them the bangles. >> i like the bangles. they have great music. >> don't do that. they're going to face off again this weekend just weeks after damar hamlin went into cardiac arrest on the field. how hamlin is doing, and how the teams are preparing. that's next. well, thank goodness. it's time for the "good news of the week." and, boy, do we need it. [ chuckles ] well, this safe driver saved money with the snapshot app from progressiveve. -how do you feel? -u-um, good? he's better than good. he got rewarded for driving safe and driving less. sorry, barb, just to confirm, this is the feel-good news of the week? this is what we found. -yay, snapshot! one prilosec otc each morning blocks
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the company says that personal data was stolen, including e-mails and phone numbers and t-mobile account numbers. >> we have cnn's business and politics correspondent. what did t-mobile say this happened? >> this happened in novemberch the company just found out about in early january, and they are just letting customers know now. 37 million customers affected, and what was stolen was people's names, billing addresses, phone numbers, date of births, e-mails. what was not stolen was social security numbers, credit card information, passwords and pins, but the concern is that of the information that was stolen that could help folks access the more sensitive information. t-mobile saying that they are working with law enforcement now. they have hired an outside security company trying to figure out what went wrong, but they were hacked in november of 2021 also, 54 million people impacted, so they are saying now that they will make an investment in their cyber security obviously to prevent
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this from happening again. >> okay. let's hope it does not happen again. let's turn to google. making some big cuts. why are they saying they are doing this? >> they are the latest in a string of big-tech companies who are laying folks off. they are saying that they hired during a time when it was a very different economic landscape. they say things have changed today, that folks are not spending as much online, not accessing technology as much, but they join the list of amazon, meta as well as microsoft who just announced yesterday they were laying off 10,000 people. one analyst put it to me this way, that the tech companies were hiring like 1980s rock stars. the cinderella ride is about to be over, but it's important to note that tech represents 2% of the employment in the u.s., something like hospitality and leisure represents 11%, and we know a lot of hotels, restaurants are still having trouble hiring. they are not laying people off. so tech while an important part of the labor market doesn't paint the whole picture for us.
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>> here's one job opening that sounds good. netflix has posted a job opening for a private flight attendant. victor -- this was victor's favorite story this morning on our call. >> had to read it twice. >> yeah, because apparently the salary range is interesting. >> quite large, but, i mean, are you guys comfortable carrying 30 pounds of luggage, and do you guys have good customer service? >> for that salary, sure. >> so you're out and the you also need faa training. you need to be able to travel at a moment's notice, but this is a position, their lead flight attendant on netflix's private jet, that salary range is $60,000 to $385,000. the average flight attendant gets paid about $61,000, so i would obviously love to know what gets you the 300,000 range. >> maybe you don't want to know. >> california has a law where you have to give a reasonable salary range. questionable if that's reasonable or not.
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>> hamlin is out of the hospital but still faces a lengthy recovery. cnn's sports anchor and former buffalo bills player coy wire is outside the bills stadium. do you know if we'll see hamlin at the game this weekend? >> reporter: it is a possibility, victor. coach says he doesn't yet know, but we are being reminded through his latest reporting how scary and nearly fatal damar hamlin's injury was, right? his business representative, jordan rooney, told me earlier this morning that damar still requires oxygen. he gets winded easily. his heart is monitored regularly, and he has that lengthy recovery ahead, as you mentioned, but he also says that damar remains positive and is ready to overcome this and his teammates are more settled and comforted to know that damar has been back in that building with them. >> it's been good to see him, you know, with a smile on his face and, you know, guys love having him back in the building. >> reporter: it's been a welcome sight to see damar hamlin back at the bills facility on a daily
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basis this week. >> to see 3, to smile and just wave and just, you know, put his hearts up and keep pushing. like it's a positive energy bubble that's just floating around the facility. >> reporter: it's been just over two weeks since he suffered cardiac arrest on the field in cincinnati. >> i don't like how he went down. >> i'll call it. >> the nfl ultimately cancelled this game but this sunday the bills and bengals will face each other for the first time since that horrific scene, and there's no question it will be on the players' minds. >> just something that i -- i can't get -- i can't unsee. every time i close my eyes it replays. >> reporter: that tragic moment has also brought out the best in humanity. fans have donated millions to hamlin's charity, and others are using the moment to help raise awareness for heart health. >> go donate blood. do whatever you can do. just do one thing that can make a small difference in one person's life, and that's all we ask.
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>> reporter: a groundswell of support around heart health awareness, around damar hamlin, of course. it's pretty sweet, alisyn and victor. the players have to lock in for this huge playoff game and have to take care of the lingering invaders of the mind from the last time they played each other. this one will kick off sunday at 3:00 p.m. eastern. i will be extremely biased, as i cheer for my bills in this one to hopefully get a win. >> a lot of people will be watching. coy wire. thank you for that. >> thank you, coy. now to this. is there anything more annoying than slow drivers driving in the left lane on the highway? >> i'm like uncomfortable in my seat how much that annoys me. >> annoys me, too. >> now south carolina will fine you $100 for going too slow in the left lane. >> it's called the slow poke bill first passed in 2021. it requires left lane drivers to move over if a car comes up behind them and the right lane is clear. state troopers have already
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written nearly 500 tickets. now this is not a criminal penalty. it does not go on the driving record. >> this is how you know if you're going too slow in the left lane. if all sorts of cars are whizzing by you on the right and flashing a middle finger, that's how you know. >> that's a good sign. >> that you're going too slow. >> or if i am laying on that important. i lay on that horn. >> that was you? >> yeah. >> that i heard behind. >> yes. if you're driving too slowly, if you're behind someone driving too slowly and i'm talking egregiously, maybe 40 miles per hour, 45, let them know. >> by the way, the left lane is for passing, not parking. >> yes. >> passing. >> yes, yes. >> "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. ukraine wants tanks. notea country have tanks, but they insist it's not that simple. "the lead" starts right now. no deal. the failed talks as the u.s. tries to pus
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