>> anderson: two years ago, the former president left washington and president biden took over. the midway point of first term, question is two fold, what is he doing and what is he doing about a second term, former president

declared he's running president biden could soon do the same, he's started framing his >> how does the president feel about the first half of his term. >> i spend the last five day speaking to half dozen of his closest advisors and the most striking ask two-fold, they deeply president biden is in the best position boy far he's been in since he took office two years ago tonight. second they don't believe the ongoing special counsel investigation is really many people outside of washington actually care about, they take it seriously not dismissing it but they believe the issues what the president ran on and they think has deliver on is what matters most it's not just the advisors they think you have the have a window into the president's view when he was touring catastrophic storm damage and was asked about that investigation. take a listen. >> you know, the only -- i will

answer the question, but here's the deal. you know, quite frankly, bugged me is that we have a serious problem we're talking about, we're talking about what's going on and the american people don't quite understand why you don't ask me questions about that. we're fully cooperating looking forward to getting this resolved quickly i think you'll find there's nothing there i have no regrets i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do, it's exactly what we're doing. there's no there, there. >> anderson the reason why first part of that sound you just listened to really stood out to me is in part because it reflected what i've been hearing from his advisors leading up to from his advisors last night but it's the president's approach and potential progress that lie ahead not about the potential problems special counsel could brink why that matters isn't you don't have the about the year ahead, that the clearly a focus, also about what comes next,

looming over all of this is whether or not the president will seek reelection in 2024, before the investigation, all signs were pointing to yes, everything moving in that direction, nothing changed according to advisors i've spoken to, they don't feel like they're in a rush, the former president's campaign the staggered approach to that helped them believe they have time, but the campaign infrastructure is largely set up believe they have issues to run on going forward one thing to keep a close eye on is look towards february-state of the union address, as they've gone through the pillars of what that will end up looking like, certainly they will be a lot of talk about the year ahead explicitly, implicitly it will certainly give an impression but they're locking further beyond that, anderson >> anderson: appreciate it. want to get perspective from evan, the wild land maker of america's fewer, andtia mitchell washington correspondent two cnn political commentator, former

south carolina house member and david urban republican strategist and one-time campaign advisor to the former president. evan we saw the access approximation from president biden, frustration, whatever when he was questioned about special counsel investigation, it squares with our report he's been frustrated behind the scenes, how much do you think it will factor into his decision or do they factor into his decision whether to run? >> i think as it stands now, he really does not see it as an impediments running i think that was as phil rightly said a candid moment part of frustration not only with the focus that it's generating this much in washington, but let's face it frustrated also with fact that this became an issue at all, it's been defining a contrast between him and the man he evicted from the white house, donald trump and to at the degree with which this issue allowed those two to be put side by side makes it harder for him but i don't think at this point

there's anything to indicate that they believe that this is going to be an impediments to what they consider to be a very strong record they can run on in 2024 and part of the reason they're pushing back hard they want to make it clear that this is not the same thing from their perspective it's a fine line, americans want to see if he says there's no there, there that means transparency and bee very cooperative >> anderson:tia the white house had been feeling good about the winds they were will the notch before the classified documents story came to light or handling of it how much do you think this could hang over a potential announcement? >> well, i think what we're going to see is president biden, vice president harris and all of his advisors and alleys really focusing on those accomplishments they don't want to talk about these documents and quite frankly, they're going to say there's not a lot to say at this point, department of justice is investigating, there's the special counsel, and you know, they're going to say we're leaving it up to them.

we don't want interfere but let's talk about our win, that's something we're eager to talk about we saw that a lot today on social media, we saw it from the president and the vice president, they want to talk about whatnot only what they accomplished, but what they want to do going forward, more judges, more diversifying of the federal bench, more implementation of all these new laws. that's what they're going to be focusing on >> anderson: every politician doesn't want to talk about something says american people don't care about this. i'm focusing on x, y and z trump folks used to do that now the biden, it may be true, american public doesn't folk on the particular issue at hand nevertheless it isn't important or serious, what do you make how the white house now is handling and seem like they've sort of tried to get their arms around how at least they're going to try to manage this. >> i think they're handling it much better. i think the answer is both and

you have to talk about and explain the nuances and differences between joe biden and donald trump. the differences are clear. they're -- you know, a magnitude, you have obstruction of justice, you have lawyers who were not telling the truth, you had documents that were volume luminous, down in mar-a-lago it's a different sincere but you have to explain that to the american people and you have to tell your story, talk about your accomplishments, the inflation reduction act, you have to talk about brown jackson, you have to talk about your bipartisan achievements about chips, you have to talk about many accomplishments this administration had, the infrastructure bill. all of these things the ominous package that just passed recently all of these things matter and effectuate change in people of lives, difference, anderson, that people have not figured out for some reason is that democrats are actually talking about bread and butter policy pocketbook issue, whereas last night me and david were

talking about eliminating african-american studiesing from the curriculum in florida and republicans are running in cultural issues and they did that in 2022, it wasn't successful, i do not see that being successful in 2024 either. >> if president biden besides to run some potential you know, candidates he might be running against made news today, former secretary of state, former suggest ambassador nikki haley sought to get him abouted off. she could be the running mate, she's blasting pompeo spreading gossip in order to sell books, is this a sign to come not just haley and pompeo but what could be a big group of candidates >> i would suggest so, anderson, presidential politics, full contact sport, lots of sharp elbow, if you're going in the arena be prepared, back to the 24 campaign, i do think the

sitting president have accomplishments don't forget the american people suffer through some of the highest inflation rates in the past 40 years, 9.6% this june topping a 40-year high, the current crisis at the border where fentanyl and human trafficking occurs daily basis, this year 2.4 interactions at the border crisis unparalleled and finally this according to will not forget and american people will not forget the debacle which was the afghan withdrawal resulted in death of american service members, while i think there will be talk of the accomplishments the american people will not forget the president's mixed bag of accomplishments and mixed bag of failures. >> the deal was signed by president trump organized by the trump administration, and secretary. >> which deal.

>> deal with the taliban. >> anderson, deal with the taliban i am talking about actually withdrawal saying they needed more troops to pull out the president saying no, that was a debacle. i don't remember if you remember the visuals, 13 american service members dead. it will not be forgotten by the american people. >> appreciate it thank you much more now on one facet of the documents investigation, which goes noisier today, now there's special counsel probe, the administration is cooperating fulling the justice department signaled it's unlikely to share information about ongoing criminal elevations with jim jones house, why doj is scared to cooperate with the investigations, from cnn legal and national security analyst former deputy attorney general for legislative affairs, will they hand congress all the information about ongoing investigations was that a realistic request from the committee >> no, anderson but i believe it's a broader issue and

question than that, this is my former office, the office of legislative affairs that sent that letter to congress, and i think what the letter does over four, five pages is state an uncontroversial position, which is that no request from according to is ever going to lead to immediately to members of congress being able to show up at the justice department with flashlights to start locking through file cabinets. what they used throughout the letter is the term accommodations process, and it's something that goes back decades and support boyd law, which is the idea that it's a negotiation, and what that letter and, the letter from jim jordan and the responsibilities from the doj was let's negotiate, talk about how we can get to a place where either witnesses are testifying documents are being provided, but no, certainly files aren't just going to automatically be opened up to congress, that was the case when i worked there, it was the case long before that it will continue to be the case in the future. it's a negotiation process >> anderson: kerry do you think

there's an argument that doj is missing an opportunity here to defend how it's handling both special counsel and investigations. >> no, i don't think this is it doj doing doj things and could have been sent from stand attorney general for legislative affairs from either political party over the course of a decade, this is a consistent justice department position that especially when it comes to criminal investigative matters, which is what the special counsel investigations are, that they do not provide that kind of information to congress and any kind of detail. so i think this is very consistent. the letter is really, i think, a washington lawyers letter. it's exhaustive, the clear, it has historical references, it is consistent across department of justice practice, and it's a

snark? >> you were the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs if the attorney's point was questioning the documents from the doj was simply to be told no and put out the tweet and go on networks and say look, the doj is stone walking us, does any really oversight actually happen? >> it does let me give you two examples, anderson the highest profile examples of congressional oversight last several years two high ones one benghazi and two fast and furious, which i was there at that time, both of those were contentious and had letters like this traded back and forth but they both ended up in documents turned over to an administration of another party. it happens and it is a process of negotiations, now, look, there's politics to this you and i we all know this and live in a world where short of a response saying sure, mr. jordan, come on over and bring your friend and just let's start looking newer merrick garland's rug, short of that you'll get that kind of tweet from jim jordan and the republicans on the committee, because that's just part of

political process playing out but this isn't really that remarkable backing up kerry's point >> anderson: other congresses that held attorney general barr in contempt holder in contempt for not cooperating can you put this from garland doj into context. >> i think this particular letter, this is the start of the process of this new congress dealing with this justice department, so it starts out with letters, congress members send letters and committee chairmen send letters to the department of justice and all other executive branch agencies every single day, this is the beginning of the process, getting to the point where a committee is issuing subpoenas, making further demands, then we turn to what elliot described as the accommodation process when the department and congress have to negotiate then later you get into litigation so we are a long way away from contempt and enforcing subpoenas, this is

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at the world trade center during the 911 and he stole from the gofundme account he stole from a homeless veterans dog he stole a former friend's scarf and worry it to the stop the steal rally. that's the allegedly stolen scarf wearing a stolen item to stop the steal rally. where he worked, went to school, jewish, none of those things, throughout it all. house speaker kevin mccarthy decline to do call for his outing. what have you learned. >> good evening, congressman to those strongly didn'ting claims he once performed as a drag queen, he dismisses this as a media obsession and outrageous but the congressman gay man was identified as a long-time performer in brazil. last week before richards posted

a picture of herself with another person in drag who she allege santos at a brazilian parade. from a newspaper cliping from 2008. she provided another clearer image of you see there of the person she claims is santos, cnn has not independently verified the images but she told my colleague julia jones she knew him from lgbtq events he attended and well-known in the gay community there. now, in response to santos's denial she tells us being a drag queen is marvelous work and he can't discriminate about what he himself did and if he does he's discriminating against her. >> what is santos's stance on lgbtq legislative policies. >> in april, 2022, anderson just last year, he posted a video on facebook supporting republican governor ron desantis legislation in florida banning

certain teaching about sexual orientation and gender identity in classrooms, in that video, he accused democrats of wanting to groom our kids, that, of course, is a homophobic term that invokes an idea that lgbtq people corrupt children. former new york republican congressman rick lazio. you've seen a lot. does it surprise you the stance that mccarthy taken. >> yes, oh santos is a professional conman and now we have a conman, a true conman sitting in congress. if you love the institution of congress, you can't tolerate that. do i understand the politics and how he feels squeezed by only having a five seat majority? i do. do i think he might maybe should think longer term about the perception of the party of

tolerating unethical probably illegal behavior absolutely? i mean, if mccarthy were to call me i'd say, cut this guy loose as quickly as you possibly can. >> anderson: what about the groom of wait for ethics committee, which will be you know, multi-week, multi-month, and that allows him to stay you know, and i guess vote with mccarthy and help mccarthy out and yet make the argument he's being investigated. seems like there's an awful lot of evidence just in the public domain it's not as if the ethics committee has access that the public doesn't >> they should go forward with the process, but members can exercise judgment they have responsibility for protecting that institution, the public has a poor view of the ethics of people in congress and in pain to say that i think there's a lot of honest good people, there they need to stand up and say this is not somebody who belongs here. people of the they're congressional district in new york, which was next to mine

when i served, they don't deserve it they have a flawed representative right now, and candidly the best chance for republicans from a pragmatic standpoint is to get this guy out, force his resignation, have a special election, fortunately for republicans local nassau republican organization called santos to resign, so they're taking the high ground i wish the rnc would do that but the local organization was doing. and so they got a chance to feel the good candidate, the competitive two years from now, when we have a presidential election, and in a blue state like new york, you got someone like santos, it's game over, so you're better off doing it now >> anderson: it does hurt the people in his district when you -- when congressman is you know, running through hallways trying to dodge cameras, no actually probably doing much of anything any work for the district. >> he's ineffective, he will be

ineffective for two years if he stay that is long and he should not stay that long, primarily it's an opportunity to congress to make statement about a minimal standard of ethics and honesty and virtue and i know the word virtue in congress, a lot of people would say they don't go together >> anderson: it's not helping the long-term. >> it's not political. the fact that the newspaper that uncovered this in september, by the way, before the election and ran a story was a -- was called the north shore leader. and its owner and publisher was a republican who ran for congress. he uncovered this. huge story here about the lack of investigative journalism, how the newspaper is a big newspapers have failed to be able to undercover this when it already ran, and like from a democratic political standpoint, how is that story out in the

public arena and not raised and not used during a campaign >> anderson: i don't understand. from a journalist standpoint and also from a political standpoint, the opposition or anybody there didn't pick up on it. >> but here's a chance, republicans and democrats could come together on this, republicans have a responsibility. i'd love to see the public in the third district who i know are offended by this to at least start a petition to ask him to resign from a moral standpoint, anybody who stood a life of fraud like this is not going to do anything that's the right thing >> anderson: no sense of shame. >> no sense of shame it's not just deception, it's ripping people off. >> russia gaining ground in eastern ukraine as the u.s. and allies try to send tanks as ben reidman is front lines next. ♪.

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city, footage shows the impact of their rounds on enemy positions. the refrain among these troops, we need more. >> speaks about tense, tense, tense. yes, of course. it's most powerful for our field but now it's 21 century. you need >> around bakhmut slowly and steadily the russians are gaining ground. thursday, the head of vogner group claim his troops and own his troops took the village just south of the city. in a dug-out this officer explains vogner's tactics. >> they attack at night. the first wave is less trained but we have to use lots of ammunition against them, he

says, the next wave of troops has night vision better trained and better equipped. vowing tactics seemingly from a different day and age inflicting mounting casualties onukrainian forces this soldier was critically injured when his personnel was struck by russian fire, much of bakhmut is a ghost town, sound of shelling constant. >> we're inside this tunnel inside bakhmut taking cover because there's incoming rounds nearby. >> the few civilians left resigned to their fate. >> people die from strikes everywhere, kiev, and dnipro, if that's your destiny, death will

reach you anywhere. on a hill above the city, the soviet era t 70 due tank fires into the distance. its sound and fury perhaps not enough to turn the tide. >> ben it's remarkable what human beings can adapt to if they have to. whether it's fighting in trenches like that or being a civilian and being resigned to your fate and saying you can die anywhere i might as well be home and stay here, and if it's my time it's my time. >> yes, but keep in mind, anderson, that most, probably well over 90% of the population of bakhmut has left those who stayed behind are like that woman, just feel that there's no

where for them to go, they've lived their lives there, all their possessions, their property is left behind, and many of them feel that boggy elderly and not particularly politically active, that even if the russians do come, perhaps they can get by, in fact, the couple we spoke to at the end of that story they had a son who had lived in another area a town, throughout the entire russian occupation and he was encouraging them to stay. >> anderson: what importance could the region's salt mines stay what the u.s. treasure calls a trans national criminal organization? >> well, the head of vogner group said that the salt mines are the in his words, cherry on the cake, keep in mind that the

vogner group for instance, in sue dan and i think cnn covered that extensively and central african republic, when they go in with a security mission, often it's really just a facade for a business, a business that exploits as much as possible local natural resources. so certainly the salt mines, which are massive. more than 100 miles of tunnels, they are the biggest salt mines in central and eastern europe. and so for the vogner group to basically put their claim, put their stake on those mines would be an opportunity for them to make some money, and of course, we know he's an ambitious man, been openly critical of the russian defense ministry and essentially presents himself as a possible replacement for them. certainly has a huge ambitions, and worry seeing them play out

in ukraine. >> anderson: ben thank you, ahead criminal charges loom for alec baldwin the deadly shooting on the film set we talk to someone on the who we haven't talked to before, new developments coming up. ♪. ♪. gy

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. >> anderson: despite facing criminal charges in the fatal shooting of a crew member on his film set al balance intends to finish production of the movie rush. he didn't answer questions from reporters at his manhattan building today. prosecutors in new mexico announced yesterday they intend to charge him and armorer on the set of manslaughter, the line producer of the film was on location when the tragedy happened she joins us. we appreciate you being with us, first i want your reaction to the charge against alec baldwin and the armorer are they fair and justified. >> i don't know that i can speak to that, i don't know what the

da has. i feel awful for everyone involved. yeah, my heart goes out to them. >> anderson: a lot of people obviously want to try to understand how live ammunition ended up on the set in the first place. at this stage, are you -- is anybody, any closer to understanding how that actually happened? >> i have been asking that question for 15 months. it is so mind blowing to me, i don't believe it honestly for months, that it was live ammo. once the fbi ballistics report came back, there was no disputing it. but it was absolutely unfather on mible. it would have been immediately addressed it's a fireable offense, huge safety violation, had any crew or cast member known i'm fully confident they would have also reported it and shut it down immediately.

>> anderson: you were in a trailer away from where the shooting took place and i know you got a call over your radio and rushed to the scene. when you got there, what was going on? >> got a call from the medic emergency, which we take very seriously. we raced up there myself and one of the producers and she called while we were driving and said, call 911. so i got on the phone with them and then she walk keyed again and said we need two ambulances, i called them back. and once i hung up phone i raced to the front of the church she had taken control of the scene and had crew members that were helping her doing all sorts of life saving procedures. i kind of took control outside of the church to make sure

everything was >> anderson: shooting took place inside the church. >> yes. set was inside the church where it happen. >> anderson: i want to be able to address a couple of things that i know you know about in a report from the new mexico occupational safety and healthy bureau after a certain amount of time you e-mailed the armorer there would be no more training days rust management did not provide the armorer or property master to determine if additional training was required and went on to say rush management, gab border patrol pickle you ignored misfires onset according to reports; you have not been charged with a crime. i wonder what you make of those statements. >> honestly the best way i can explain it is a lack of knowledge on their part.

they didn't actually interview me about what they -- those claims. i did a deposition with them back in december, which was the first time i, we had spoke about any of this. my initial interview with osha was more a walk-through of like this is where things are, and this is you know, where the incident happened, et cetera. it was just a lack of knowledge on their part, because every single thing that was reported was investigated and addressed. afterwards, i did find out about a couple of misfires in had the place in the hands of people supposed to be handling them, meaning an armorer, someone trained and those were not reported so they're not addressed, so everything that came across our desk was absolutely addressed and handled. i'm sorry, what was the first part of that question

>> anderson: there was according to the occupational safety and health bureau, they said that you e-mailed the armorer there would be no more training day like training alec and rush management did not provide the armorer with the authority that additional training be required. >> we went there was that in great detail during the deposition, and it was made very clear that we were saying no training because she was needed onset. went want to split her folk at any point and they had all done training at that point and wanted to have fun, learning more different weapons that were not necessarily going to be used for their character, and we didn't deem that necessary. there was also the a situation where a minor wanted to learn how to use weapons, and it was not needed for the film. and i deemed it too much of a risk and said absolutely not.

and that was part of was referred to in the e-mail. >> anderson: lastly can you talk about your working relationship with hall hutchins when did you meet her what was it like working with her. >> i met her when she landed in santa fe the first week in september with other department heads, and she kind of immediately impressed us just with her passion for film and she has a very vivacious nature. we interacted every single day from then on out. and she's a lovely human, and someone that i will carry with me the rest of my life. >> anderson: gabriel i appreciate you being with us, i'm sorry for you and everybody who was associated with this going through >> anderson: coming the story

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now, if you're at all familiar with this program, you know that sports and the nfl are not exactly my forte. i just don't know much about them. i'm sure if i knew who the characters were, i'd be interested. unless of course it is the super bowl commercials or the halftime show. like the snickers commercial with the betty white. that was -- i liked that. to walk us through what is going on, we're joined by harry enten. so what is happening this weekend? >> you have your four divisional games, two in the afc, two in the nfc. whoever wins those games meet in the conference championship games. and whoever wins those conference championship games in a week, they will meet two weeks after that -- >> they are different leagues. >> they are different conferences. they used to be different leagues. the afl was started in the 1950s. the nfl was started in 1920. now they're conferences under the nfl. >> when is the super bowl? >> the super bowl is in

february. >> and who's playing in the halftime? >> i honestly don't know. that's not the thing that matters -- >> i mean, come on. it's not the thing that matters? >> i don't care who plays halftime. >> oh, rihanna, i'm told. i'm there. i'm there. >> maybe we can watch together. it's going to be great. i have some questions for you about this weekend's games. >> this is just to show my lack of knowledge. >> it's to show your lack of knowledge. >> i did watch that hbo show "hard knocks," and i really enjoyed it. once i know who the characters, the players, are and i know their back story, then it's like a drama and i'm interested. >> i believe the cardinals were on "hark knocks" this year. they did not make it. >> i watched one season. i liked it. i didn't like it that much. i watched the chicago bulls documentary, which is incredible. and that, i wish -- basketball i wish i knew about this. >> the movie like the security guard. you didn't watch close enough. i want you to answer who these

teams are and who is favored to win each game. let's start with this one. please god get this right. i beg of you. bengal tigers and the buffalo bills. >> yes. who do you think is favored to win that game. >> i'd say buffalo bills. >> all right. we'll go with that. let's go to the next game. who are these teams? >> kansas city -- i don't know. kansas city chiefs. >> yes. >> are they still called -- and i don't know the carolina panthers. >> close. they came in the league at the same time as the panthers. that is the jacksonville jaguars. who's favored? >> that i don't know. i'll say jacksonville jaguars. >> let's go to the nfc matchups -- >> what's the answer? >> we're going to get to that. our nfc match ups please. >> this goes on? >> this goes on. >> lions and the screaming eagles from tallahassee. >> the screaming eagles from philadelphia. philadelphia. >> are they really the screaming eagles? >> no, they're the eagles.

close, close. who do you got? >> is that a new logo? >> the eagles have pretty much always had that logo, man. >> who's the favorite? i'm going with -- giants. >> okay. fine. and then finally our last game, please. do we have our last game slide? >> 49ers and dallas cowboys. >> very good. and who do you got? >> dallas cowboys. >> okay. fine. and who do the actual oddsmakers have in this game. let's bring this slide up, please. the bills. so, you got there. you said the jaguars. it's the chiefs. it's the eagles who are favored. and it's the 49ers. but we'll come back. i'll grade you after this weekend, and we'll see whether or not you could be the odds guys. >> anybody listening, please do not wager based on my picks. >> you're probably good as the oddsmakers. we'll wait and see. >> i appreciate it. >> go bills, please god. >> news continues.

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