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he pleaded. this after russia warned if nato further arms ukraine with battle tanks and long-range missiles, it will lead to a whole new level of war. it's been nearly a year since the russian invasion t. united states perspective has shifted during that time. remember the unwillingness to be a participant in a three-way deal that would have had the united states backfill poland's fleet of fighter planes after they give mig 25 fighters to ukraine? the biden administration said no. they were willing to acknowledge providing stinger anti ar craft missiles. with a passage of time has been a softening of the biden administration's reluctance to go all in. today ukrainian are in oklahoma being trained on the system that the u.s. is supplying. as part of a new and massive $2.5 billion aid package. reports suggest a u.s. willingness to green light

efforts to target crimea, annexed illegally by russia in 2014. what accounts for this change? has the western perspective changed from getting what it needs to lose to arming ukraine with what it needs to win. is our weapons supply no longer tempered by concerns over provoking putin by crossing his red line? my next guess says the latter is the wrong question to be asking. nigel gould davis is the former ambassador to belarus, now senior fellow for russia and yeurasia at the international institute for strategic studies and author of the recent piece in "the times" "putin has no red lines." dr. gould davis, a red line that's a trip wire for escalation. why do you think it's flawed thinking to be guided by an adversaries red line? >> i think a red line is a bad

and unhelpful metaphor in thinking about policy tools of russia. it implies that some special category of action that, if we undertake it, will automatically in a trigger-like way, provoke some dangerous and escalatory action. in practice that's really not how international relations work. it's not how we should be thinking of putin. putin wants to assert there are such red lines, but his nuclear bluff in particular has been repeatedly called and shown to be empty since this war, since this invasion began. in practice the actions he will take at any given point will depend upon his assessment of the risks and benefits of doing those actions, and he might claim, he might threaten that he'll do something dangerous and radical against us, but in

practice what he does or doesn't do will be based on a practical calculus. our goal should be not to deter ourselves by fear of what he might do, but to persuade him, putin, that escalating the war is radically against his own interests. >> in simple terms, are you saying that no longer must we worry that his response might be nuclear if we do x, y or z? >> we should always be concerned about the possibility of nuclear escalation. there's not a zero risk of that, but our efforts should be focused not on wondering and worrying about what might cause him to do that, but to persuade him that under any circumstances his going nuclear and breaking that taboo would invite disastrous consequences himself.

we should be aiming to deter him from going nuclear, not deterring ourselves from doing things that might cause him to go nuclear. >> dr. gould-davies, has there been a change in western thinking that initially what we wanted to do was supplying ukraine with what they need to do to repel the russian invasion, to now given the strength of the ukrainian effort, hey, they can win this thing? let's give them what they actually need to win the war? >> i think that's right. that's partly a consequence of the tenacity, the bravery and heroism and adaptability that ukrainians themselves have shown. i also think now there's a great recognition that there's no practical distinction between, on the one hand, helping ukraine to stave off defeat and, on the other hand, enabling ukraine to win. anything short of ukrainian victory would ultimately mean

that russia is better off and not worse off than it was at the beginning of this invasion. that would be an intolerable outcome. it would show that flagrant aggression is rewarded. that would be an object lesson to anyone else in the world, including china, watching this. there's also no prospect that any outcome short of a ukrainian victory and a defeat for russia would be a stable outcome. if this war were somehow to end with russia better off occupying territory and also violating the people on that territory, there's every expectation that russia would in due course seek to launch a third invasion after the first of 2014, after the second of 2022. that would not be a stable outcome. the only stable, durable outcome that serves western security interests and international morality and international law

at this point would be a defeat for russia. but i think it's also very important for the west to send a message to russia, the message of reassurance that, if russia were to retreat back to its internationally recognized borders, no one threatens russia, that would be a safe and stable outcome for russia. >> dr. gould-davies, thank you for being here. you set the stage nicely for my poll question of the week. thank you, sir. >> thank you. go to smerconish.com. this is this week's poll question. very simple, yet complicated. should the west give ukraine everything it needs to win? what are your thoughts. tweet me @smerconish, youtube, facebook. the west, yes, not just the u.s. need some other countries to step it up. ryan gregory, interesting observation because you know germany stands poised to release their tank and they want the

abrams tank to be released as part of the u.s. response. i think they're almost ensuring it's a group effort. you have to give the biden administration credit for the way they've crept kept this all together thus far. no matter how high legislators break the debt ceiling, america keeps breaking through to new heights. now at $31.4 trillion. what does it mean to be $31.4 trillion in debt? during warmups at the philadelphia fly years pride night players wore lgbtq jerseys, all except one, a russian orthodox player said it violated his religious beliefs. should he have been benched? back when dr. ezekiel emanuel was 57, he shocked many by saying when would stop seeking medical interventions to avoid the decline to fight

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wanted to live to 75. as he gets closer to that age, is he sticking to his plan? in the october 2014 atlantic article, he vowed when he hit that age his approach to his health care will completely change, that while he won't actively end his life, he wouldn't try to prolong it. he cited statistics on how america is living longer and why that wasn't necessarily a good thing. in 1900 the life expectancy of an average american was approximately 47 years. by 1990 it was over 75. since his article appeared, the number peaked in 2019 at nearly 79, but due in part to covid-19 it most recently was measured at around 76.5. dr. emanuel showed this sobering chart about how creative productivity falls off a cliff after one's early 60s. he points out when parents routinely live to 95 children must caretake into their own

retirement. however, it's eight years later and he's 65 and looking pretty good, by the way. how is he feeling ability all this? dr. ezekiel manual is an oncologist, senior fellow and vice provost at the university of pennsylvania. welcome back. your title was why i hope to die at 75, but really what you were writing about was quality of life, not just longevity, right? >> yes. your audience should remember that authors do not give their articles titles, editors do and they have an interest in pumping up sales, not necessarily in being totally accurate. look, at 75 it's not a matter of do i want medical interventions. if i happen to be skiing or something, i would definitely take medical interventions if i, say, broke my hip or injured my knee. that's definitely the case. and if i'm in serious pain, i

would take pain medications. the thing i was saying is that what i don't want to do is, say, take chemotherapy if i got cancer at that point. those are important distinctions. i'm not saying stop medical care which is what the title and a lot of the language around this suggests. >> dr. emanuel, there are a lot of interventions, i'm going to put them on the screen, that you say when you hit 75 you're no longer interested in. regular preventive tests, screenings, colonoscopies and cancer tests, cardiac stress test, pacemaker, heart valve replacement or buypass surgery. flu shots, ventilators, dialysis, surgery, medication. god forbid, if you get cancer, you're just going to let it ride? >> yes, sir. you know what, michael? a lot of those interventions, they're not necessarily pleasant

interventions, especially cancer and chemotherapy. i'm an oncologist as you mentioned, and i know a lot about them. i think the real question is not at that moment. the real question is how do you want to live your life? what does quality of life mean to you? i'm pretty clear about what it means to me. and the reason i wrote that article was to suggest that people need to be clear about what it means to them. i wasn't telling everyone do what i do. i said you need to think about it. you just can't sort of blindly go in to old age which i think unfortunately happens to many, many people, and the medical system will do what the medical system does regardless of what your philosophy of life is. what i was urging people, think about what's important to you. what's important to me is to be mentally active, mentally engaged, doing what i can do to make the world a better place. i want to be physically active. >> dr. emanuel --

>> yes. >> your father lived to 92. i think your mother is still with us. you were dealt a really good hand. you're still taking the under. >> look, you're exactly right, michael. i may turn out to be, what i call in the article, an outlier. i was talking about on averages, because not everyone can be an outlier. almost all of us think we'll be outliers. by definition, that's not true. on average, there's a problem. let me point out a statistic you mentioned, that our average life expectancy is going down. what that really means is that a lot of young people are not living to 75. that's the real tragedy, that our system has not made everyone be able to live a healthy life to 75. that's what we should be aiming for. living to 100 or living to 90, those extra years, they're not in your 30s or 40s.

they're in your 90s. that's not necessarily where people anticipate that extra year or month or whatever it's going to be. i'm pretty clear in my own mind about the fact that i want to be vigorous until the end, and that's what's important to me, that the end is 75 or 80 or whatever it's going to be. i think the tragedy is we have too many americans not making it to 75. >> as you draw closer to 75, is the emanuel clan lobbying, putting pressure on you to reconsider? >> look, i've had discussions with my partner extensively about this. if i'm an outlier, as i think i said in public before, if i'm vigorous, like tony fauci, still being active, still making major contributions into my 80s, then i'll have to reconsider. i'm fully aware of that. i said that in the article, that

75 was a sort of average age. it's not what -- what's important is the quality at that point. >> when you hit 90, i want to book the interview. good willing i'm able to pull it off myself, okay? can we put that in the date book right now? >> i'll be -- i will be an amazing outlier if that were true, michael. there are outliers. i just put up a course on ben franklin. he was an outlier way back in the 1700s when he was i think 82, he participated in the constitutional convention, gave a very, very famous speech at the end of the constitutional convention that's worth looking at. he wrote part of his auto biography at the end. he was very vigorous all the way until 84 when he died. god willing, i should be like that. >> dr. emanuel, thank you.

i wish you good health. >> take care. nice to be with you. let's see what you're saying via social media. katherine, what do we have with regard to dr. emanuel? >> i'll be 60 soon, 70, 75 works great for me. i absolutely agree with his stance, i faced death from violence both from breast and colon cancers. i won't fight -- dr. emanuel makes it crystal clear in the piece. read "the atlantic" piece. i'll sput it in all my social media. he's very clear, not telling you how to lead your life or to end your life. makes it explicitly clear he's not for euthanasia but a guy concerned about quality of life at the end of life and living longer is not necessarily the right outcome. it occurred to me -- one last thought, if i may. it occurred to me that the most

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an nhl defenseman under fire because he's uncomfortable with those who play for the other team. did he deserve to be benched? ivan proef vovorov plays for th philadelphia flyers. when the flyers took the ice before the game, players were wearing lgbtq pride night warmup jerseys and using sticks wrapped in rainbow tape. provorov cited his russian orthodox faith and stayed in the locker room. its patriarch has a close association and friendship with vladimir putin. the church maintains homosexuality is a sin. the patriarch has used homosexuality as a justification for the russian invasion of ukraine. after this game, provorov was asked about his decision. >> i respect everybody.

i respect everybody's choices. my choice is to stay true to myself and my religion. >> many are saying he should have been benched for that night's game and are calling for his punishment. "philadelphia inquirer" columnist marcus hayes had this blunt reaction. let's not complicate the issue. he refused to warm up tuesday night against anaheim because he doesn't support the right of lgbtq people to even exist. he cites his devotion to the russian orthodox church. in his eyes, their life is a sin. about that, the pat ork and former kgb agent justified russian's invasion of ukraine because ukraine allows gay pride parading. this is homophobia at its most extreme. if you subscribe to this belief, you're a homo phobe. a little rainbow tape on his stick wasn't going to send him

to hell. yes, he should have been benched. to give you a sense of the widespread public fallout on this issue, some have even hurled nasty comments at the instagram page of the adorable golden retriever belonging to provorov. she felt compelled to post this is a dog's page. please stop sending me hateful messages. as is often the case, the facts are straightforward, but the issues a little bit complicated. it has echoes in several recent cases that have reached the united states supreme court. you'll remember that in december the court heard the case of a devout christian website designer from colorado who didn't want to make a website for a same sex wedding, notwithstanding that she had not even been asked to do so, with i is similar to another colorado case, the baker who didn't want to bake the wedding cake for the same sex couple who the court ruled in favor of by a 7-2 margin. the website designer is challenging a colorado public

accommodation law that prohibits most businesses from discriminating against lgbtq customers. she argues that requiring her to create websites for same-sex couples, that would violate her freedom of speech. it seemed from the argument and the reaction to the argument that the 6-3 conservative court is poised to support the wedding designer. on one hand you had liberal justice sonia sotomayor saying, hey, allowing the designer to refuse would be, quote, the first time in the court's history that it would rule a commercial business open to the publix, serving the public, that it could refuse to serve a customer based on race, sex, religion sexual orientation. chief justice roberts countered. he said to force the designer to build the website for the same sex couple, that would be compelling her to speak. he then asked, quote, in what other case have we upheld compelling speech? in other words, not simply restricting speech, but actually compelling an individual to engage in speech contrary to

their beliefs. we don't know the outcome yet of the website case. my hunch is that the court is going to distinguish between service and speech. in other words, the baker, the website developer, the florist will be treated like artists who speak through their work and, therefore, are allowed to refuse business or service. the guy who delivers the tables and chairs to the wedding, not so much. my own view is if you're a baker of wedding cakes, it's your responsibility, your obligation to bake a cake for all wedding couples. same with the wedding website designer or the farmist, for that matter, who has call s about distributing birth control. you signed up for the gig. you cannot now stand behind your religion as a shield when you discriminate. instead, maybe you need a career change. i see the hockey player differently. provorov was hired to play hockey. i personally wish he had skated with the pride night jersey.

in not doing so, unlike the baker, unlike the website developer, he's not discriminating against everybody. he's not denying service. i think we need to distinguish between discriminatory acts and discriminatory beliefs. provorov is free to think what he wants and should not be compelled to wear a hockey jersey with a political viewpoint that he finds objectionable. now, if he takes up baking or website design in his retirement, that will be a different story. still to come, we just hit the debt ceiling again at $31.4 trillion. that has parked a battle between the republican-controlled house and the white house and congressman george santos has made a name for himself by making bigger and bigger lies about himself, begging the question what exactly is a path logical liar? i want to remind you, answer this week's poll question at smerconish.com, please sign up for "the daily news" letter while you're there. the website question is this

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. america is not just in a debt ceiling crisis. we've got a national debt crisis. there's been a lot of talk about how we hit the debt ceiling on thursday and how the real reckoning is going to come in june when the treasury runs out of ways to move the money around to cover the payments. what about the underlying issue, the staggering national debt itself? $31.4 trillion. that's where it stands per thursday's letter from treasury secretary janet yellen to house speaker kevin mccarthy. to put that in further perspective that's $94,170 for every person in the country. back in 2008 pete peterson, the former u.s. commerce secretary and later co-founder of the blackstone group committed $1 billion to create a foundation in his name dedicated to, quote, raise awareness of america's

long-term fiscal challenges and promote solutions to ensure a better economic future. you've probably seen some of the ads that the foundation has made to sound the alarm. >> we all care about education, investing in the next generation requires serious resources. we spend $1 billion a day on interest because of the national debt. we need to do something about that. learn more at thenationaldebt.org. >> joining me is the ceo of the peterson foundation. your father, a billion dollars he donated to this cause. what why us so important to him? >> well, i think it reflected some of the values that he lived during his life. his parents were immigrants from greece. they came over with no education, no resources. they worked hard and saved for their future. those savings allowed my father to become educated and live a

great life here in the united states and live the american dream. i think during his lifesaving for the future was a principle that benefited all americans and him personally. i think when we look at the current fiscal situation and what the government is doing, it's doing the opposite of that. we're not investing in our future. we're stealing resources from our future to pay for today. when he had this great suck section he said he had to give it back to his country to address this big threat. >> give the definition of deficit and debt. >> the deficit is the annual shortfall between revenues and expenditures in the federal government. we spend about $6 trillion and we take in about $5 trillion right now. every year there's another trillion. we're up to $31.4 trillion as you said. the annual deficit adds to it every year. the debt is the principal balance of all the accumulated

deficits before this point. >> we consumers, we're all conversing about the price of gas, more recently about the price of eggs. this not so much. how does it impact our day-to-day life? >> that's part of the challenge of this issue, that most people live their lives without thinking too much about it. as you noted, there's $94,000 per person of debt that's accumulated. the government, as you also noted, spends a billion dollars-plus a day in interest costs. that money is coming out of the country, coming out of our tax dollars, money that could otherwise be spent that we can't spend because it's do you know on our interest. it may not directly affect your paycheck in a way you identify, but it's there. big portions of our tax revenue are dedicated to this. what's worse is the trajectory we're on going forward. >> michael, there's a partisan divide on the debt selling, the republican controlled house, the democratic controlled white

house. folks from both sides of the aisle have put us in this hole, right? this has been going on for a long, long time. they are equal opportunity offenders on the debt. true? >> yes. i think that's a fair comment. many administrations, many different congresses that have been ignoring this issue for decades. a big portion of the issue involves demographics and the baby boomers retiring. we've known about that for a long time. there's been plenty of opportunities to address that. i don't think you can blame one party or the other. they both got us to this point. >> is it fixable without people getting hurt? >> absolutely. that's the best thing about this issue, honestly. there's all sorts of problems around the world, our climate, ukraine, that are very challenging to fix. this one we know how to do. we could do it tomorrow if we so choose. that's because the budget is under our control. it's unilateral. only the united states can control it. we can control our own budget here. the solutions are right in front of us.

there's many revenue solutions that would bring in more revenue to help pay for the things we want. many adjustments we can make to social security and medicare that can be done in a gradual manner, exempting current retirees. there's all sorts of things people use to politicize this issue that aren't true. i personally believe we can do this, solve it in a way that's very humane and gradual and sensible, frankly. >> apart from disputes over the debt ceiling, the last time i remember a serious conversation in this country about the nation's debt was simpson-bowles. in the end simpson-bowles failed, didn't get the vote that i wish would have taken place in the congress. is there any move afoot to reenergize that type of thinking? >> there are some movements, yes. there's something called the trust act which has the support on a bipartisan basis in both the house and the senate. it would set up a process to address the trust funds that are insolvent right now. so social security is on a path

to insolvency. the medicare trust fund is on a path to insolvency. the highway trust fund is not in good shape. there's a process bill basically that would put it out to bipartisan groups to come back to the congress with real solutions and face an up-or-down vote. it's exactly the opportunity we should be doing. simpson-bowles didn't succeed in the end, but they got 14 of 18 commissioners on a bipartisan basis to support it. they needed 16 for it to go to congress, so they were just a little short, but they had a majority. i think there's plenty of leaders in congress who would like to do this, who can do this. we need to set up mechanisms to give them a chance to do so. >> michael, your dad must have been quite a patriot. thank you for being here. i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on, michael. still to come. the many outrageous lies of freshman congressman george santos have launched many punch lines and investigations. me, i want to know why does

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in a few months since being elected, new york congressman george santos has gone from obscure freshman legislator to national punch line and lightning rod. what's behind his endless fabrications? as the claims keep piling up, volleyball star for a school he never attended, jewishness, his

mother being in the south tower on 9/11. many people are outraged and want him outraged including many of his fellow new york republicans. what makes a person lie so frequently? joining me now is dr. tracy marks, an atlanta-based psychiatrist whose youtube channel of mental health videos has more than 1.27 million subscribers. she's also the author of "why am i so anxious, powerful tools for recognizing anxiety and restoring your peace." what exactly is a pathological liar? >> a pathological liar, and i love that phrase by the way. it's where someone tells an excessive amount of outrageous lies that don't seem to make any censor have zero consequence to

them, they're pointless, versus usuallying at some level, with the purpose of gaining something or saving someone for hurt or harm. >> is it a matter of, when is the mendoza line? how many little lies versus big lies can you tell per day before you become a pathological liar? >> right. so, yes, there is deception research out there that defines all of this. normal lying versus prolific lying and the number of lies that you tell. pathological lying is really on a whole different scale because, in general, the quality of the lies that they're telling, they get very extensive, they have no purpose to them, and you can kind of imagine a child who has an imaginary friend and tells stories with the friend.

it's similar to that, and it even starts in childhood where it just becomes a lot of storytelling that gets more complicated with lot of details and things. all of those details are just lies. but to them in their head, they're just telling stories. >> dr. marks, does that mean they don't know that they're lying? >> so sometimes they don't. and that's one of the distinctions between regular lying because i want to gain something, i want you to believe something about me and yes, there can be intent to key steve, but sometimes it can just be lots of different stories in their head and sometimes they can't tell the difference between what's real and what's not real. it also has a compulsive nature to it, where they have a drive to tell these stories and they just can't stop.

>> does the dsm recognize pathological liars? >> no, it doesn't. it's really just seen as a behavior. it's not recognized as a disorder. it can be seen within some brain disorders, and that comes from excessive drinking. aside from that kind of pathology, it can also be seen within certain personality types, psychopathy, people who are sociopaths can also have one aspect of that pathological lying. in those cases, again there is the intent to deceive, to harm someone, whereas this, the lies are so extensive and so convoluted and pretty much about nothing real or nothing important that the intent isn't always to deceive people or harm someone.

>> quick final answer if you can do it in 30 seconds. is it treatable, pathological lying? >> it is, but with a lot of psychotherapy. people have to understand. they need empathy training to see how their lies affect other people and they also need help even recognizing when they are telling a lie. so you have got to switch it to what did you lie about to what didn't you lie about today. and one other thing that i want to say that's really important, i think, is that people involved in pathological lying don't stop just because they are called out on. it continues until they get help. >> wow. thank you. that was really informative. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. checking in again on your social media. what do we have? it doesn't matter if he is r or d to me. he has no buzz being in congress. thomas, you raise an interesting issue because as long as he is

votes, and we see how he is voting already, he is towing a very consistent republican line, supported kevin mccarthy and so forth, the district is a lean republican district. if he is a loyal republican vote, will it matter if he remains in congress and comes up for re-election? i mean, there were any number of candidates in the midterm election you looked at them and you knew they were flawed, and nevertheless their party hung with them because partisanship has become so tribal, so does it matter in this case? maybe we find out in two years. still to come, more of your best and worst tweets, youtube and facebook comments and the final results of the poll question. vote if you haven't. should the west give ukraine everything it needs to win? ♪ it's our turn now we'll make it up again. ♪ ♪ we'll build freelance teams with more agility. ♪ ♪ the old way of working is d deader than me. ♪ ♪ we'll scalele up, and we'll scale down ♪

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all right. there it is. that is the -- wow! 92% say, yes, hell yes, the west ought to give ukraine everything it needs to win with 36,000 and change. you know what's interesting about that? when russia invaded ukraine, i remember we had a series saturday after saturday of question that pertained to what should be the u.s. and nato response. always the most militaristic response carried the day and that is still the case a year later, which tells me something.

what else, catherine? more social media reaction for this week's program. no, they should stop giving anything. stop the war now. and what? allow putin to run rough shot over all of ukraine? no. i'm with the 92%. what else? there is this. smerconish, your view on the hockey player was ass-backwards. can refuse to play on jewish heritage night? that would be refusing to do his job. he didn't say i am not playing because it's lgbtq night. it's sotomayor and roberts in the context of the website designer where sotomayor says you are going to greenlight discrimination for the first time in history. roberts says, no, she speaking through her website design and we don't want to compel speech. i don't agree with roberts. you are a baker or a candlestick maker, a website designer, customer comes in, you perform

your role. but in this case, it's roberts' argument because you are forcing him to speak by putting on the jersey which he disagrees. one more if i have time, and i think i do. smerconish, a blue tie on eagles game day? smh. i think that's shaking my head. that's cool because i came into the studio this morning under the cover of darkness in center city, philadelphia, all the high-rises are illuminated in green getting ready for the giants tonight. i was tempting at 5:00 a.m. to boot my horn. i didn't do it. i let them sleep. okay. thanks for watching. happening now in "the newsroom," frustration mounts in ukraine as germany and the western allies spar over whether to provide tanks to counte