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breaking news, another mass shooting in california. this time of half moon bay. about 28 miles south of san

francisco. seven people killed in multiple locations, at least one other person is critically injured. a suspect is in custody, and san mateo county sheriff's office has identified him as 67 year old, june the zhao, a half moon bay residents. they believe acted alone. i want to bring in cnn's camilla bernal for the very latest. camilla, it's hard to believe her talent at the shooting, the simon half moon bay. we >> know that it is one shooter who went to multiple locations, this happened at around 2:22 local time this afternoon. we were told that the suspect went to the first location and shot five people, for them killed that location, one of them critically injured. then he went to another location about a mile that killed another three people.

we've been told this is a mushroom farm, the people call it a nursery, and general, it is an agricultural area. and police had not made an arrest until about 4:30 in the afternoon. that is when the suspect was spotted at the sheriff substation. now, we know that it was a plainclothes officer who saw the suspect, who saw the carter looking for, and speaking to my colleague josh campbell who pointed out this was not the massive swat team operation that we saw and southern california. this was an officer who you see there wearing a tie. and taking this man down, and arresting him, but josh campbell pointing out that they did not see cover. they were not hiding behind cars. instead, they thought this was no boards to make at the moment. we know he was taken into custody, they were covered a semiautomatic handgun. after this arrest. we know he is cooperating with

authorities. the dea team is interviewing that suspect at the moment. but we know he acted alone. authorities say there is no threat to the community. yet they have not given us a motive. they're working on it, but so far they say they do not know why this happened. >> did anything about him in particular? we have is h, the picture, women about him particular? >> we know is a half moon bay resident. authorities believe that he was an employee -- so they believe that the people he killed were also employees in this area. again, 67-year-old resident of half moon bay. he is, in custody. authorities are speaking to him at the moment. hopefully we get more clarity on why he did that. >> and mark berman of california's 23rd district.

such a tragedy. it is unbelievable to think about the pacing of such tragedies. hauser community grappling with us tonight? >> the shock in disbelief. this happened and half moon bay, such an idyllic part of san mateo county. i'll tell you, at 2:22, just before 2:22. at the california state capitals my colleagues. -- and then i had to midway over to the office and see on social media that there was a mass shooting in my district. so i the communities are scared and we have to see how to support them tonight of, days weeks, months ahead. >> no one ever thinks is going to happen and their hometown. with the rise, and prevalence of gun violence in this country. as your community developed and

law enforcement collectively. i am in the kind of cases were to happen. don't have to just a cold reality. >> we're very fortunate, 70 catches on the best one counties in the state. and we saw on the video, you know, remarkably professional chefs apartment that covers half moon bay, and covers the cosign of san mateo county. and they're able to -- without any more death to anyone else. but, i had a couple of school classes up in the capitol last year. and when i asked them, what is one thing that you would like to change in your community there are two different groups. and the first group, these are fourth grade students, ten-year-olds. the first group, the first thing they said, there's no more shootings and schools. the second, group the third thing they said was no more shootings in schools. i wasn't dreaming of that

nightmare when i was a ten-year-old. and so it unfortunately has a really permeated every aspect of society, and we need to do more to protect our communities. >> talk about children i have ten-year, old eight-year-old, who know that part of the school day and some part during the year had to tail what we use have as a fire drill. they had have active shooter training, or kind of response. it really is unnerving to say the very least. they are substantial john, at the scene, this is not out of school. what did about the presence of children at the shooting scene? >> it was farmworker housing. and there are lot of farming, and agriculture on the coast. and farmworker housing. with all family lives. we're people in the family may work on the farm worthless, including children were there. it is tragic, it is tragic to think and we're still learning details about the victims.

we can also soon that mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, were killed far too soon. and the fact that their own pharmacies were nearby. this makes it that much worse. it is really a senseless gun violence that we have in the united states that is so deep from anywhere else in the country. >> do you happen to know why they believe this is targeted? i know you have this motive, it is precise motive? were there any indications to what they thought was targeted? >> i don't know yet, to be honest, but i'm sure that will come out soon. but i don't know. >> we will have to see what is happening as this all unfolds. i'm just thinking about it, as you said, being on the capitol, just honoring as a visual the loss of life in another community. only to have it happen right at your front door. thank you so much, thank you for your community. >> thanks so much, laura. i wanna bring in former fbi deputy director, and duplicate

and retired lapd sergeant, cheryl dorsey is with us as well. a lot happening as we get the information in a truly is unfolding. i will begin with you, sergeant dorsey, because you've got to mask shootings. days apart, and california. monterey park was one, now half moon bay. why has this become so common. do you think as my colleague earlier spoke about, charles ramsey. that there is a fear that people might be coming desensitize to what has been happening. >> i think we are already there. i wonder the insensitive shooting, it half moon bay, this is like a copycat. obviously, there's a lot of press about what happened in monterrey california. it was an asian man who victimize other agents. now we have something similar and northern california. is someone who's been's doing and brewing and had a hiked

over an issue and decided, you know what? i'm going to do that very thing that we just heard about in southern california. sometimes, there's a reason why the news puts information out there. i wonder if we really need to know every single thing that occurs. >> that's an important points. and our colleague of mine, shannon, was speaking about this. the idea of not immediately discounting the possibility of hate crimes. simply because the person is of the same race of some of the victims. there could be the same type of animus, gender, wise or otherwise wise, and beyond, that can't be discounted. but sergeant dorsey's point. the availability of information. the need for transparency, at least in the court of public opinion. do you think that can, at times, way against the ability to stop crimes like this? i >> that is hard to say, it is totally understandable that

communities are looking for answers to questions like, what motivated this person to commit this horrible act? it is a way of understanding, or assessing future danger. is there something else out there that we should be worried about? we want to kind of, be able to categorize these things in our mind and put them into a particular box in terms of the way that we understand them. and so, the thirst for inspiration, to understand things like motive, intent, is really never-ending. however, at least it is sort of coverage that we're doing right now, that we did over the weekend, that we always do around these events. that, could in fact serve to draw more attention to these individuals, and so the methods, and to their equipment, and their guns, and everything else. it is really hard, or in a very top spot in terms of trying to bring people the information they reasonably seek. but also trying to assess whether that is ultimately harmful. so i think the answer that

question is way beyond. >> i -- remember the boston bombers and beyond. there is a conversation around to we, as media, i talk about the press was committed to crimes. and focusing on the victim, so last-minute potential impact. but i do wonder, from your law enforcement background in particular. in the case of what happened i in half moon bay i have a living suspect i. what is the investigation looking light from here in terms of what you are looking for to try to understand, and identify that motive? what are the things are looking most for? how does that investigation expand with an eye towards prosecution, of course we. >> >> one would hope that he would be cooperative. and reports that he would be taken into custody the police station. so it sounds like maybe he went to turn himself in. and he can provide a lot of

information as to the why, that's it everybody wants to know. and with that information perhaps we can avoid future instances, but i want to encourage everyone to do going forward is to be your own best advocate, and protect your fuel. because the horse at the barn. people are acting on impulse. and so it's a matter of really, if you see something, if you know something, if you feel something about a person. you need to say something in an effort to maybe avert these kind of incidents happening over, and over, and over. >> we have them in a time but i wonder from your perspective for a case like monterey park. we are trying to impact and the suspect is dead. how to try to get the answers. what are your investigative tactic to disappoint? >> it's basics, you gotta talk to friends, neighbors, family members, coworkers, anybody who knew him to try to pull together a picture of these sorts of things that he said to

other people. maybe complaints whereas social -- media, and emails, text, friends, you have the forensics of all those devices if that leak from his residence, yesterday so there's a lot of work from investigators to do here. hopefully, that would enable them to stick together in understanding of what needs. katic so many answers that the families are looking for. and we're looking for the identity of those who were killed in monterey park and those in half moon bay. thank you to both of you. we 38 americans dead. and mass shootings. just the first three weeks of this. we are only three weeks into this year. so, what will it take to stop the killings of people across this country. d-d-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer.. to close, twist until it clicks.

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stop. police confirming seven people were killed just tonight and the second mass shooting a california and just a matter of days. and this is the state which actually has an assault styles weapons ban. so, why does this keep up inning? i want to bring in cnn contributor steven could all ski. he is a gun safety instructor and a firearms reporter for the reload.com. also, jennifer massiah, senior news writer at the trace. you know, the question that everyone is asking in addition to trying to understand motives and i think it is of the human nature to try to understand why, not looking for a justification but what would bring someone or motivate them to do something like this. but, stephen, you say that we're seeing actually a cluster of sightings. what causes that? >> well i think that sometimes, you know, they can be caused by the copycat sort of acts or shooters see other people

carrying out these attacks and feel this effective themselves. and they decided something that they could do. it's sort of a riot effect that some people call it where the bar gets lower, the more people see other people do it. of, course it is also possible that these are not directly connected at all and it is just incidents that happened that seem similar in some ways but aren't directly connected. >> i mean, it very well could be purely coincidence. we do not know of any connection whatsoever, jennifer, between the two mass shootings and, sadly we have so many shootings across the country that trying to find those come in threats is a fools errand. and yet some believe that legislative initiatives, trying to stop this alone can feel like an exercise in futility because you've got california in particular that has a very strict gun law even an assault weapon ban. how does that strike you that it's happening there in particular? does that lead you to believe

that, frankly, nowhere is safe? >> well the truth is not all mass shooters display warning signs that rise to the level of a gun ban. they're very specific things need to do. you have to have an involuntary mental health commitment tory felony that carries a sentence of the year or more. a domestic violence conviction. but you still can own guns if your behavior doesn't rise to the level of a family or a police officer invokes a red flag law new. the truth is,, there are 400 million guns in circulation. in the united states, even the strongest gun laws are going to have a limited effect. there are already so many guns out there. >> i mean, it's a very important point to raise on the idea of, well, one not having necessarily the advance warning or so-called red flag. maybe being known to law enforcement that we're hearing about. but the number of guns in circulation, does this make the

idea of shootings sadly and cruelly and never double? >> well, i don't know if it makes it inevitable because we didn't always have this issue of mass shootings being this common as they are today in this country. and we had booster gun laws going back in history. a machine gun through the middle, you could have it to your door. and now, in the state like california which has the absolute strictest gun laws in the country, we're still having these events occur regardless of that. and so, you know, i don't know if gonzalez are going to be the only solution or the magic trick to fix this. there are certainly things that you can do to make sure that these the topnotch frequently, including following up on issues where the suspects do run into police. or do have event that could trigger charges or involuntary commitments that lead to gun

bans. that i know the monterrey shooter, apparently, had a charge for legal gun possession in his past. i'm sure we'll hear more about both of these suspects in the future. and there may be more of those sorts of incidents that it fell through, could've let the. >> and jennifer, when we talk about this, the idea of a i don't want to suggest a legislation is extraditing fatality. nor do i want to suggest that there could just be one panacea to which to create a complete delusion to all of these things. but you think about all the different facets that must come together, who are you looking to in the sense of the federal, congressional legislature or state and local jurisdiction? who do you think would have the best ability to try to control? or is it a combination? well >> okay. well, california's legislature is democrat dominated.

and they have past various strict gun laws. federal is a nonstarter. the democrats cannot overcome a filibuster in the senate. so, you know, a lot of people have stopped looking at legislation and started looking at on the ground solutions. community violence interruption as has success in hotspots. but it is not a coast to coast solution. acts in the federal system a strong controls like other countries have, we are still going to see the shootings pop up. even in states with strong gun laws. you know some argue that we need to loosen gun laws so that more people can get guns and defend themselves. well, arguments have significantly loosened. half the state are purposely carried. you don't need a permit to carry a gun. so why isn't there less gun violence? why are more guns in the hands of people not stopping this? in 2021, we have more gun death in this country than ever. nearly 49,000.

why is this number going up and not down? >> these are the questions that we are all grappling with tonight. certainly in communities and california and beyond. i, mean you have states like california, connecticut and delaware and while we illinois, massachusetts, new jersey just to name a few that already have assault weapons ban. and sadly, not one seems to have been able to escape gun violence more broadly in this country. steven, jennifer, thank you. we'll keep asking the questions. we hope to find the answers. three members of the oath keepers and a fourth person associated with them convicted of seditious conspiracy by a washington d.c. jury. we're gonna dive into the larger significance of those cases, next.

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well, we have a verdict today in the latest oath keepers trial. four men convicted of seditious conspiracy in a federal court in washington d.c. for plotting to stop the certification of joe biden's electoral college victory on january six. now, one of the men, david marshall was a part of a formation. the prosecutor said it was, quote, a battering ram for pushing through the crowd and into the capital. the verdict comes amid an ongoing trial of five proud boys on separate seditious conspiracy charges. if any of that sounds familiar, that's because, well, back in november the oath keeper founders to roads and kelly meggs were also found guilty of the rare seditious conspiracy charge. back with us now, discussing, michael fanone, shingle and andrew mccabe.

we'll begin with you here shanley. because the doj's first successes with the roads conviction, many were wondering if there would never be a charge that would be successful to something like that, a very rare instance. did that give some level of affirmation to continue with the new case, which i note, was separated because of considerations of trying them altogether? >> i think it did, i mean a lot of, times prosecutors are very concerned about beyond a reasonable bold out standard. but sometimes a little bit of cold from being a little bit timid and this is not a charge which has been used very much thankfully because it doesn't happen that much in the country. and, honestly, i think some of the concern was saying that this is a really rare charge, making it really difficult. just because it's where it doesn't asylee mean it's difficult. i, mean i've tried cases in d.c. for over a decade. i have a lot of confidence that they can see their work -- and i think it's been proven. >> it's true, andrew i want to

bring you in here, this was a d.c. jury and this is after already having the fourth north bristol. but there wasn't a thing between that said in this. one of the first set of defendants in the oath keepers trial, you had a bit of a patchwork of a mixed bag of convictions. but they were considered more of the organizers, the ringleaders, so to speak. these feathered for were more of these sold called footsoldiers. not the organizers as the prior ones were. what does that tell you about the idea of a doj successful conviction for those who were following orders as well? >> you know, laura, excuse me. it's a really interesting discrepancy between the two results, right? it seemed, in the first oath keepers trial, the results that the jury really reserved those convictions for seditious conspiracy for the highest level of organizers and

planners. you'll remember that roads never even entered the capitol. he wasn't even on the grounds of the capitol that day. but, nevertheless, took the conviction for seditious conspiracy. this jury, of, course saw it somewhat differently and did not have a problem convicting these defendants of convicted suspicious -- even though they were lower level folks, the muscle, the guys who, according to prosecutors applied brute force to the plans of trying to stop the certification in the election. it's just that every jury is a little bit different, the perspectives, the way that the way the evidence, the way they apply it. the laws are always a little bit different. and i think that in the second trial, the one that we had a verdict on today, it's possible that the government kind of retooled their presentation of that evidence having had the experience of the first oath keepers trial of few months ago. so, it is hard to pinpoint exactly what it was. but, clearly, these two juries saw the implications of that

charge somewhat differently. >> and, michael, i mean, for the audience as, well there is also a proud boys trial happening as well. so, keeping these different charges stray and who is getting charged with what. but it all has the connective tissue of what happened on january six. and i'm wondering what your personal reaction has been to watching the trials unfold but to have concern convictions. >> yes, i mean, excuse me, to me, i see these almost as a witness tests. you had the first trial would stewart rhodes and some of the higher level individuals. and now we are trying to work our way down. my assumption would be that, you know, if the evidence is the same, it gets the proud boys and their membership as it was against the oath keepers. the result is going to be the same. and it just speaks to at least some of the individuals that participated in the january 6th insurrection. and the level of pre-planning an organization that those groups had in place for the

events of that day. >> it isn't just saying this. i'm looking at this and, you know, originally thinking about the initial defense was, well, trump made me do x, y and z. or it was are the only going to be able to pinpoint it as the biggest fish in the pond. and now, you see the distancing of either stewart rhodes being onsite, the idea of those so-called foot shoulders. and the jury being convinced nonetheless. there's still a lot more to impact. and obviously, although you do have some similarities, they still have a lot to prove for all of the cases that might follow as well. thank you to all of you. appreciate it. conviction today on all counts for the january six rioter who was photographed with his feet on then how speaker nancy pelosi's desk. richard barnett, of arkansas. he faced a charges including entering and remaining in a restricted area with a deadly or dangerous weapon. and obstructing an official proceeding. now, court documents show that barnett had a stun gun while

inside of pelosi's office. although he testified that he believed that stun gun did not actually work. barnett's lawyer said that they do plan to appeal. and the sentencing's plan for this coming may. he faces up to 20 years in prison for the top charge of obstructing an official proceeding. now, guess who is invited to the white house tomorrow? well none other than congressman george santos. we'll tell you why, next.

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well, the george santos lies keep coming. and still, he is a congressman. and as such, she was invited to

the white house tomorrow for a reception for new members. he actually has two committee assignments. and, ethan, a security clearance. former republican congressman adam kinzinger tells cnn that members of congressman don't need a background check to get the security clearance. he says, quote, your election is constitutionally your claims. you just sign a sheet that you understand, once. joining me now, senior political commentator paul -- senior contributor to axios, margaret -- and former communications director doug high as well. first of, all i might be sending to many people, margaret, that there's not a requirement of the extensive background check of election. because that would be additional con -- but, i do remember having a security clearance, and they go through everything at the oj. and, yet you could see classified documents and security clearance, in the members of congress. is that surprising? >> no. i mean, look, to be a member of the house of representatives is

us about as close as you can be as being an ordinary citizen and being elected to federal office. and, that is what being elected to the house is about. now, you get assigned to committees. and, some of those committees are more sensitive than others. george santos doesn't actually need to be assigned to any committee. but the republican leadership has chosen to give him committee assignments. and, that is where it -- you are trusted by the people who voted for you. which is okay. unless you're a pathological liar. and then there's not really any recourse except for the ballot two years later. and that's the situation that we're. in >> that part. the lighter part. what do you say to the fact that this is happening right now? and, of course, there is not the recourse. >> well, there was an election. and, adam king singer says there's no background check the way you and i were in the government. i had a security clearance. there's a background check. it's called the election. and, the republican party, before they put him up, they should've checked him out. just like, by the way, this man accused in new mexico, a republican candidate for the

legislature accused of shooting at the houses of democratic officials. so, they should've checked him out. frankly, the press should've checked him out. i talk to democratic operators. because i called them and i said, did you talk to your job? they said they had some of this. not all. and they give it to journalist. in new york! journalist didn't run with it. they said, he's not going to. and so, people drop the bomb. the republican party should've vetted this guy. the press should've vetted. him >> is that congressman when -- she's been criticized for fund raising and giving sort of a nod to support as well. as just one person asked the many just name. >> she should've checked him out. that one went to harvard. she's not done. she's very, very smart. she smart enough to check this guy out before she gave him a endorsement. >> do you think the idea of someone getting a sort of a posture sounds like a collective issue of going on, it did not stop snl from giving him the royal treatment, so to speak. listen to this, a weekend update on how they dealt with this santos issue. >> you lie about going to nyu?

>> yeah. >> you lie about working at goldman sachs? >> i filled the gold manse sacks. >> united died about your mom dying in 9/11? >> i think i said 7-eleven. >> even lied about being jewish. >> no i said i was-ish. which is actually iconic. i said that because my grandparents were in the holocaust. >> oh my gosh, really? >> yes, they actually knew and frank. my ancestors were the one that told, or you should be writing this down. hang on, madonna's calling. hello? yes, like a virgin. i remember, i was there, i was the virgin. okay, look, see you at home. >> i just don't understand why republicans won't condemn. you i, mean they promoted you to committee assignments. >> yes, of course they did, i'm a team player in the sport of lies. at least minor fun. meanwhile, marjorie taylor greene us you're saying 9/11 didn't happen. i just said it happened to me.

>> i mean, doug, the idea that this is obviously getting spoofed from snl. but they're taking it to a larger statement of how the perception of the republican party may shift because of people like santos. do you agree? >> i don't think it changes because of santos. i think it changes because of one of the people we mentioned, marjorie taylor greene, and others that we focused on in the past couple of weeks. santos is such an anomaly. i don't think that he stinks the party in any real way. and, sure, some republicans have called on him to step down. some have. and the reality is that anyone can call it and he won't resign so it doesn't have any force we can applaud and say he saw the right thing. it ultimately doesn't matter, members, whether the republican or democrat offer some kind of resolution for expulsion and then you get to the further high of the road but also to say, really quick, on the question of vetting that santos members of congress, you could be on the house intelligence committee, and the senate intelligence committee and not be vetted. you don't have to be approved or have any real background check. that is how life changes when

your member. i do think that's right. >> do you really think it's right? -- explain little bit more than because that might be counterintuitive. the document is a sense of nature, as a skiff, for example. i think that most people probably assume that there would be something to allow the person to have a kind of background check to know that you are who you say you are, or that are able to have it. that is surprising that that would be the case. >> their constitutional officers. if they released a classified information, the prosecutor just like you and i. that is good too. by don't you want to country with the executive dominates. our founders wanted the balance. >> i thought you are not as broker? >> he relies on that basic contract with the voter. that you're voting for the personal use of your voting for. they are trustworthy on some

essential -- you may make decisions that more political than policy based, that's all within the realm of normal politics. but if you make up everything about yourself, how can you be trusted with anything? and so i think that puts us, you're, right he's an anomaly. that puts this case in a different category. it makes all these choices about committee assignments, or what to the next two years we like, it puts different sticks on all of them. >> then there's oversight. >> the idea, i was a executive branch, is the work chart, the doj, the fbi, and the idea of there being some of the oversight within the oversight function of congress. is that so bizarre? i remember not long the conversation about one is a tax returns. because the thought of what it might mean, there's all these checks and balance, and branch of government today wanting to know whether someone is acceptable. if your president united states, couldn't congress i -- >> about ethics committee.

and that of the congressional ethics. these things take a lot of time. it would not be a quick process for santos. and so any democrat can offer a motion to expel them from congress. realities it takes two thirds of congress to do that. and the last two times it happened, there is a congress had to be convicted of bribery before that vote happened. not accused i.c.e. >> of on the cusp happening. i do think it down to the republican brand, duct is where we disagree. everybody in america, people get the story, and the following the story. i who is, the prospects things he said, he's a republican, left the damage around, unless they get rid of it. i >> guys now inside and at life. >> we have that big meeting this week, just like the next german. i'm >> with the person's position impacts what they do? >> not at all. >> full stop, no. >> why are people asking what

the public pressure committee, that this guy? who asked him to run? sure there is somebody better? >> nobody asked him to run. but once you are the nominee, of the party leaders, but that's majority leader, minority leader, they go strong for candidates. and the baseless say, okay, i'm in waco. who's your candidate there. they get on a plane, to go to tucson. then they go to phoenix, -- >> but republicans not in the david duke in louisiana, george port senior disavowed. he didn't care that is a public anomaly. so it would have in my party. >> very different cases. he knew he was. >> well, seems to be the same issues. that work out there everyone. and everyone, standby. it just weeks ago tonight, on a separate topic, the buffalo bills safety, the more hamlin, was seriously injured on the field. he's already outside about in buffalo, where we take a look at that. next. get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualifyfy.

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