watch on the news. never think this is going to come and hit home. today -- we are the news. >> ah. here we go again. >> yeah. >> good morning, everybody. kaitlan's off, poppy and i are here. poppy's on assignment i should say. seven more lives lost to gun violence in california. just two days after a mass shooting killed 11 people there in the state. a suspect is in custody this morning. the latest on the investigation is straight ahead, plus this -- >> did you ever think maybe

somebody i knew would be involved? >> definitely not. i read the article and heard it was a dance studio, it crossed my mind. >> reporter: you thought about your dod potentially? >> yeah. >> the young man whose father was murdered at the dance studio now speaking out in a heart-wrenching interview. >> gun violence never seems to end. two students shot and killed at a des moines, iowa center for at-risk youth. cnn reporters on the scene to bring you the latest. a critical hearing in fulton, georgia. finishing a report on donald trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election in their state and now a judge decides whether the public gets to read it. we start in california reeling from three mass shootings in just three days. this time it's a small northern california city of half moon bay. investigators say the gunman killed at least seven people at a mushroom farm and trucking

facility. >> come here! come here. hands up! >> there you see it right there. sheriff deputy found the suspected gunman sitting in his car at a police substation. the dramatic arrest playing out in front of news cameras. officers approaching the suspect with their guns drawn and then slamming him to the pavement. his name is chung li zhao. the sheriff believes the 67-year-old was a worker at one of the locations he attacked. our reporter is live on the story in half moon bay. good morning, veronica, what's the latest. >> reporter: good morning. the two shooting locations that took place were less than a mile apart, we know. at the first location sheriff's deputies arrived to find four bodies. a fifth person still critically injured and less man a mile away sheriff's deputies discovered three more bodies. you saw that video of

67-year-old chunli zhao as a substation occurs a little over two hours after the first 911 call came in. incredibly devastating authorities touched on yesterday is that this happened in the afternoon after school got out. some of these victims believed to be farm workers, and they live at some of these locations where the shootings took place. so there were children present, children who were there to see this massacre unfold. don? >> all right, veronica, thank you very much. from half moon bay, california, to monterey park, california, our david culver spoke to a man who lost his father in the saturday night shooting. another victim died in the hospital. that brings the number of people killed in that saturday night shooting up to 11. 4 of them so far have been identified. david, good morning. thank you for joining us. ub spoke with one of the victim's sons? >> reporter: we did, poppy, and he said that you're left in the

aftermath trying to replay the final moments of your loved one's life. for him it's his dad. craving those details wondering how he felt. he's confident knowing his father in the final moments the reason his dad did not get out alive is he's the type who could not leave others behind. in the chilled glow of candlelight the monterey park community gathers to honor the 11 lives taken and 9 still recovering. images like these with flowers, balloons and tributes. you know them well. you've seen them before. and you will see them again. a community vigil following a mass shooting. it's become disturbingly routine, except -- when it's your loved ones they're gathering for. >> just want to see if this is okay. >> reporter: helping me choose the photo that best depicts his dad. he liked this one. >> yeah. good picture. i think it represents, represents his attitude towards

everything. >> reporter: always upbeat and caring for others is how anthony summing up his namesack. valentino or val says the 68-year-old hospitality worker hoped to retire and return to hit native philippines. at free times you find him here at the dance studio moving to the music. >> would he dancing a lot? >> he liked this stuff. >> reporter: video from last year posted on social media showing one of the many joy-filled gatherings at the dance studio. on saturday night as dozens celebrated the lunar new year gunfire cut the music short and destroyed so many lives. >> addition units requested. multiple victims. gunshot wounds. >> reporter: anthony heard about the shooting sunday morning. >> did you ever think maybe maybe something i know was

involved? >> i heard it was a dance studio, crossed by mind. >> thought about your doead potentially? >> not the type to run away from danger. music was there and he was either injured or unfortunately passed away. >> reporter: while anthony wants to know more about his father's last moments he says anger heal really surfaced. >> i don't think it adds anything to be angry to the situation. you know, what happened happened. can't change it. i just would like for, you know, better to come out of this. right? >> i think the biggest thing i'd want other people to take away, i think regardless of this situation, i that's it's always so important just the time you have with other people. >> reporter: anthony acknowledges there that there's still a lot of processing to be done here, poppy. notice his demeanor. he really had this calm approach to everything that was playing out, but he said his dad was the

type of person who would push through emotions in moments of crisis and he's trying to honor him by doing the same, but says he's still, at the same time knowing it will come in waves over the next few days, weeks, months, when the real challenge will continue. >> of course it will. david, you're so right in your piece. you said, you see it and you will see it again. the vigil. the candles. and we will. 38 mass shootings in american in just over three weeks. appreciate the reporting. thank you. >> as of right now. this morning two students are dead after two people opened fire in a foundation for at-risk youth. an 18-year-old suspect charged with murder. turning to adrienne broaddus with more. good morning. do we know the reason why? are investigators saying, adrienne? >> reporter: good morning to you, don. investigators say this shooting was not random and they say it was targeted.

they say at least two of the three people involved were related to gangs. i want to take you through what we do know. an 18-year-old has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder as well as attempted murder. that suspect is in custody. this, after shooting and killing two teens at a school or charter school, it was described as a charter school, by the police in des moines for at-risk youth. more on what police told us. listen in. >> it was not random. there's nothing random about this. it was certainly a targeted incident. as far as motive, that's something we are going to try to figure out. >> we've got to get everybody around the table and start finding solutions to this, because the police cannot do it all, and again, we're good at what we do, but that doesn't give families any peace. that doesn't give the friends of these kids any hope that it's going to get any better. we need the support.

>> reporter: investigators also say the 49-year-old founder was seriously injured, and is still listed in serious condition. as far as that 18-year-old who police say is responsible for this shooting? about 16 minutes prior to the incident investigators say he cut off an ankle monitor, which he was ordered to wear by the courts. don and poppy? >> adrienne broaddus, thank you. and much, much more ahead on the violence in america. straight ahead. next hour we speak to a san mateo official to talk about the deadly shooting in half moon bay. the arkansas man photographed with his feet, remember that now, infamous photo on then speaker nancy pelosi's desk during the january 6 insurrection found guilty on eight counts by a washington, d.c. jury. here he is during that insurrection. watch. >> broke into nancy pelosi's office? >> i didn't break in! >> somebody did. >> i got pushed in.

i paid a quarter for this. i'm not a thief. it has my blood on it and i left her a note. tell you what it says. it says -- nancy, bigo was here you [ bleep ]. >> that was 62-year-old richard barnette who will be sentenced in early may and faces up to 20 years in prison for top charge of obstructing an official proceeding. the jury deliberated only a few hours before reaching that verdict. afterwards burnett's lawyers said he client did not receive a fair trial because there were "mostly biden voters" in the nation's capitol. >> in a few hours in georgia, a fulton county jump will hear arguments on whether to make public the report from the special grand jury. that is, that grand jury is investigating former president trump and his allies efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. this is an investigation that

started with a now infamous phone call the former president made to georgia's secretary of state raffensperger. listen. >> all i want to do is this -- i just want to find -- ah -- 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> joining us now to talk about this, cnn political analyst and "new york times" senior political correspondent maggie haberman and senior analyst john avlon. good morning to both of you. when i hear that phone call i can't believe we actually listened to it, it was real. that he actually asked for that. so this investigation is expanding. the likelihood this report will be made public? >> i think likelier than not, do don. a little hard to navigate what's happening with the grand jury. remember, a fact-finding grand jury and not capable of making charges. if it says what we assume making

recommendations about people getting indicted, fani willis has to move quickly because the information will be public. >> yeah. and proven to move quickly and aggressively with racketeering charges in her past. i thought interesting, maggie, what you tweeted in terms of how her staff is preparing for potential violence. >> it would really be jarring. my colleagues covering this closely in georgia have a thorough, comprehensive report on our website talking about exactly what this might show, and what the investigations look like, and, yes. they are bracing for the possibility that if the there are charges against trump that this could again commence in violence. we forget right after january 6th, 2021, preparations for violence in state capitals around the country. i think that's is part of what is informing this and some staffers have take ton wearing bullet-proof vests, part of that

report as well, stunning. >> yeah. and speaks to the moment we are in. now, has the political violence expected right after january 6th nationally happened? no. but there is that cloud of it constantly. >> one would think the people that are watching closely all the people charged, found guilty, face sentences, they would not want to get involved in violence again and not be co-opted by lies again? >> right bp yesterday saw additional members of oath keepers convicted of seditious conspiracy speaking to accountability beginning to come that should be a constraining factor. the threat of violence itself we can't fledge from as a society. we need to be wide-eyed about it and note have threats determin our actions. can't live in a free society that way. i will say the grand jury made a recommendation. >> if they, they made some recommendation. >> made some, it be released. overriding public interest in

this case i think would be good for the country to get the information out. because we're talking about something that's so much more serious. cuts to the heart of our democracy. i hope in this case in public interest we get to see this as american citizens. >> is it fair considering hour serious, possibility to ask, what does this mean for 2024? >> look, obviously implications for 2024. no. deem with them on a separate track. this is, this isn't simply the past. this is about an active attempt by a sitting president to overturn an election. nothing more serious than an investigation. >> flipping the way it's constructed a little bit. i think so much of all of our conversations about 2024 for which donald trump at the moment is the only declared candidate. i expect that to change very soon and at least one more on the republican side and i expect we'll hear from president biden at some point fairly soon, but every story about his political future needs to mention the fact he is under multiple investigations in multiple jurisdictions and the state and federal level.

it's unprecedented. >> talk where he's going? did you want to make a point? >> i'm happy to make a point but i don't want to cut off maggie. take the ball. >> that's okay. >> talk where he's going. new hampshire. won in 2016, and south carolina. two crucial early voting states. >> uh-huh. >> south carolina front of the pack now. democrats. but why is he going to these two states now? >> well, a couple reasons. a lot of stories, talked about it on the set, essentially walking for president, not running for president since kicking off his campaign. >> or sitting. sitting at mar-a-lago. >> golfing. look, he has not been running, what one would consider a rigorous effort. so far. i don't know how much is his lack of desire or how much is fund-raising struggling. but he is going to plant a flag especially because other candidates, the period where they're looking to get in. i think they are also finding, his team, that people are not swelling around him in the republican party in these states the way they had believed. he still has supporters and

still has his operation, pretty small. i think they thought they would be able to get all of these people to just -- show up for him. he's over and over and over learning the lesson he is not president anymore and for the republican party someone they want to be pass. trying to create momentum around himself. i remember him campaigning right before the primary in new hampshire beginning of february, end of january 2016 and him complaining at that event how long his commute was to go back to manchester. this is not somebody who does retail campaigning especially well. i don't think we'll see him do it. >> the silk -- >> actually exact same thing. >> it's too long! >> exact same thing. >> got to run. you think democrats? they're like, run, please. no one's trying to marginalize donald trump more than republicans and conservatives. >> yeah. but they freed to take pro active actions now. here's the thing.

pointing to the thing a solid 30%. a crowded republican field in a winner take all primary season he's win those. republicans, want one simple trick to stop the inevitability of donald trump being yob nominee? go to proportional representation. not at nerdy as the sounds. get a representative result. otherwise, donald trump, a number of people run, donald trump will steam roll through. >> what they think, anyway. an element of that fighting the last war. the only point. trump's folks make that point, too. he will be able to, him, get gooding 30% everyone else splitting the ballot, yes. i don't know what this will look like. none of us do, if he gets indicted. what it will look like if desantis gets in, desantis at all effective at a candidate. a degree to which they are refighting 2016 and when you are refighting a past campaign that's not a great position to be in. my only point. >> and we don't know.

a lot we don't know. >> here we go again. thank you. >> maggie and john, thanks. are you buckling up for "here we go again"? >> i just ---surprised. >> you can, you will be here by my side. through it all. okay. that's a yes. next, the fact check on the questionable, more than questionable, some just fact list speaker mccarthy made in his first few weeks as speaker. video could soon be released of the police traffic stop that ultimately led to a man's death. what we're learning this morning. >> it was an unadulterated, unabashed, non-en stop beating of this young boy for three minutes. >> oh, my god. [ sobbing ] unlike some others,, airborne gives you v vitamin c and so much more. it's an 8 in 1 immune support formula. airbrborne. do more.

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the house speaker kevin mccarthy had his hands on the gavel for just over two weeks now, and if you're a person in power, you better believe your expert fact checker is watching

your words. daniel, good morning. you found some of mccarthy's claims misleading and some just plain wrong. let's start with the speaker using nancy pelosi's name to defend his position on the debt ceiling. listen. >> when trump was president and nancy pelosi was speaker they became a debt ceiling agreement and a cap agreement two years to cap spending and make those decisions. >> daniel what did you find? >> don, this stuff is highly misleading. mccarthy is trying to say, look, why is it crazy for us republicans to impose a spending cap, nancy pelosi, democrat, did it in 2019. that's not actually what happened. the 2019 pelosi deal did loosen, soften, raise, a pre-existing spending cap already in effect because of a 2011 law known answer the budget control act. pelosi got the government to spend tens of billions of additional dollars over and above the cap that was already in place at the time, and her deal ensured these discretionary

spending caps would expire after 2021. that pelosi example is not the same as what mccarthy and his caucus are talking about, cut government spending creating a new spending cap. in fact, don, basically the opposite. >> daniel, also been hearing speaker mccarthy repeat the republican talking point getting rid of tens of thousands of irs agents. listen to this. >> we put out a commitment to america to tell them exactly what we would do if they gave us the power. and in this first week we continue to keep that commitment. we repealed 87,000 irs agents. >> is that accurate? >> don, mccarthy is wrong in two ways here. first of all house republicans didn't actually repeal anything. they did vote to repeal, passed a bill to repeal more than 70 billion in new irs funding but that bill is not getting through the senate or president biden. so they have not changed the law. second of all, this frequent republican talking point you hear how democrats are hiring

87,000 new irs agents is just not true. exaggeration. inflation reduction act biden signed into law includes $80 billion in additional funding allowing the irs to hire tens of thousands of additional employees, but not even close to all of these employees, don, will be agents. the people who conduct audits and investigations sometimes frighten people. non-agents make up vast majority of the irs workforce and many newly hired employees in things like customer service and operations, i.t. experts tell us many new hires making up for attrition. filling posts left by tense of thousands of retirements, departures taking newly created jobs. trying to conjure up an army of agents coming to get you is not based on facts. >> mccarthy echoes trump's claim federal law enforcement was wrong for executing a search warrant at mar-a-lago at his resort. something the fbi says resulted

in recovery of 100 documents marked classified and hundreds of other government documents as well. is this claim true, dan? >> we know it's not true, don, that the government could have just come to mar-a-lago as any time without executing a form's search warrant and gotten all the government documents there. the feds, then dodj trying more than a year to get government records back from trump without a warrant. did not work. we know that. the trump team didn't give back all records marked classified after doj went beyond asking issuing a subpoena in may. the trump team hadn't even given all records back at the time a trump lawyer signed a certification in june saying they had all been given back and actually a day, june 3rd, reps from the fbi and doj went to mar-a-lago without a search warrant. what happened? according to a dovj court filin "prohibited them looking at unopened boxes given no opportunity for the government

to confirm no's documents with cl classification markings were made." mccarthy could have claimed came without a warrant. weren't even allowed to look let alone take anything. don? >> going to be busy. in the coming weeks, months and years. thank you. appreciate it. talk more about the classified documents found at president biden's home. joining us, democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. good morning and thank you. >> good morning, poppy. >> since on thursday the president said, "there's no there there" and he has no regrets about the documents. the fbi searching his home 12 hours friday found six more classified documents. some of the documents they took from his home date back to his time as senator. that ended in 2009. after the classified documents were found at mar-a-lago with president trump, you said you were profoundly troubled. are you profoundly troubled about this discovery in biden's home as well?

>> i am profoundly troubled. anytime there are classified documents outside of a secure space i am profoundly troubled. whether that space is owned by a republican president or a democratic president, and i make that point, poppy, because the americans, i can just see congressional approval ratings going down right now as my, as the american people watch the republicans behave in a radically different manner now that biden has apparently done what trump did, and retaining classified documents. and, look. americans can smell about absence of integrity. answering your question saying any one, any time, president or no president has entitlement to classified documents. that's a big no. biden cooperative and trump was not krcooperative. whether one obstructing we will have that conversation. be clear. by the way, yes, we want to know

which documents are particularly secret and which ones are not, but end of the day any classified documents outside of a classified space is not good. >> you just said, "biden la done what trump did" very right to point out handling of it and cooperation has been very different. very different from what president biden has done and what trump has done. about trump's class fried docufried classified documents, security rifk to our country. do you have a concern classified documents biden held are also a national security risk? >> of course i do, poppy. again, remember, and people need to understand this. if something is classified at whatever level and there are lots of different levels. if something is classified it is classified because the emergence of that information could damage national security. so, of course, the answer to that question is "yes." now, people need to understand

that. they also need to look at the responses here. remember, when the trump documents were found, my republican colleagues drawing disti distinctions, was it really classified or an administrative matter. what about this attack on his home? the fbi didn't have to actually get a search warrant because the biden people let them into his spaces, but, you know, this is a case in which the fbi has treated both, the current president and the ex-president in the same way. both says of allegations, both collections of classified information being outside of those spaces is a bad thing. >> let's talk about, changing topics here, but incredibly shocking, is yesterday's arrest of charles mcgoneiccal, the supervising investigation oligarchs, head's counterintelligence now accused working for a sanctioned russian oligarch, oleg deripaska in

2018. you worked hard to get the trump administration sew sanction their companies. i note, he pleaded not guilty but also a role in the mueller investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. what's your reaction to these charges, and i wonder if this makes you think that any portion of the mueller probe should be revisited? any portion he may have been involved in? >> well, you know, obviously very hard to comment on the charges themselves. the story just broke yesterday. obviously very serious charges. shocking it happened, that alleged, you know, the alleged crimes may have been committed by somebody who was so senior at the fbi. poppy, interesting about this story exactly where you were going. one, yet another information of the incredible government-wide to get him under severe sanctions operating under in 2018, 2019. you know, including, by the way, his main asset, the aluminum

company. known than the treasury of the united states and donald trump working hard against congressional opposition to raise sanctions on deripaska. one, interested knowing how broad was the all-government effort to lift sanctions on deripaska and, two, yes. on the political side of this, you know, this was a very, very senior member of the fbi in the new york office. all kinds of questions, i don't want to get into details, just questions, about the behavior of the new york fbi office prior, of course, under jim comey, and then, of course, there will be questions about this individual or people associated with him participating in the mueller probe. >> he did. he was a part of that. >> i don't want sew suggest anything was wrong with the mueller probe, but, anyway, two categories of things not xrstri

li criminal. we have to find this out. a bit fight what other democrats will be on the committee. hakeem jeffries is pushes to be on the committee, shichiff, the ranking membered. mccarthy threatening to take them off. he has unilateral power with this committee to do that. is it worth the fight to the have him on the committee? >> poppy, two individuals concerned here adam schiff and eric swalwell together have 20 years experience overseeing the intelligence community. having done that a long time myself, that is a lot of expertise. they're now going to be victims of a political hit job. right? if you listen to why mccarthy says he's not going to allow them, says adam schiff lieds. that's just not true. i sat through him through all the impeachment suffer and believed he lied tell people when he did that.

adam is a careful guy. that's not true. by the way, if lying gets you off a committee then he needs to explain why george santos has now been appointed to a couple committees. eric swalwell, the moment fbi told eric that there was a compromised individual in his orbit eric cut those ties off, and so what you have here is a political hit job retribution for removal of paul gosar and lauren boeb ert from committeess why? because they threatened into violence. no one has ever threatened any with violence amongst schiff and swalwell. >> thank you, poppy. >> thank you. very good points. essentially an santos. >> made a lot of news here. >> okay. okay. coming up, artificial intelligence used to do accounting work, write research papers and even pass college exams. should we trust it, though? we explain. for adults who are undetectable,

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you want to learn about the future? the future is now because this morning a new artificial intelligence tool known at chatgpt is gaining popularity for ability to craft emails, write research papers and answer almost any question in a matter of seconds. it is a powerful new technology with extraordinary potential but warning about the huge risk of misuse. you know who knows all about this? vanessa who joins us now.

gong. >> hgood morning. >> proceed with caution. >> intriguing certainly and a lot of ai analysts say as revolutionary at the internet and some say a threat to society but one thing for sure. sparking everyone from top ceos to students. >> reporter: chatgpt short for chat generative transport generating human life texts trained on a massive amount of data allowing it to understand and respond to a wide range of questions and prompts. what you just heard me reading wasn't written by me but by artificial intelligence. it chatgpt. i simply typed in a prompt. write a tv news script wreten by a reporter about chatgpt. in second the ai spit out the copy you just heard. chatgpt exploded in popularity

any recent months. ceos using it to write emails. even passed tz a wharton business exam. >> should people be more excited or fearful of chatgpt? >> a mixed view. >> reporter: open ai owned chatgpt says the technology is still in its research phase, and can produce inaccurate information. >> you like artificial intelligence, but are you here to issue a warning about it? >> absolutely. artificial intelligence is sort of like a teenager. excited to see a teenager get its footing but not there yet and we can't trust it. >> reporter: microsoft thinks it's a good bet even with risks. investing billions of dollars in open ai. jack po, ceo of anstab health, a licensing test, and it passed all three. >> not only did it answer very complex questions, it can also

m modulate it's answer. >> reporter: started using the platform for treatments for copd, a pulmonary disease. >> suddenly suggest things we might not think of at all and absolutely save lives. >> reporter: jake heller is a loyer and founder of casetext helping clients comb through documents using ai like chatgpt. >> read through police report when there's contradictory testimony. almost certainly help find information that is pertinent to filter innocence. >> reporter: poe and heller both say human oversight of chatgpt is still necessary. opening eye says the platform can produce harmful instructions. >> in law absolutely there is right and wrong answers.

and that's why, you know, chatgpt alone is not going to be enough to handle some of the most important questions in fields like law. >> reporter: and then the question of plagiarism. new york city public schools banned chatgpt on school network devices due to concerns that negative impacts on student learning and concerns regarding the safety and accuracy of content. >> it's incredible innovation, and at the same time like opening a pandora's box. >> reporter: why a 22-year-old princeton student himself spent his winter break building gpt-0 he says can detect whether something is likely written by a human or chatgpt. he says teachers use it to check their students' papers. >> is this like one ai cross-checking another ai? >> in a sense, yeah. >> but can it spot misinformation? >> oh, okay. yeah. so as opposed to misinformation,

it's more of, like, can only spot if something is ai generated or human generated. >> reporter: that's the greatest fear of all. spreading misinformation. chatgpt, a tool designed to help humanity, could ultimately hurt it. >> people who want to manipulate elections and things like that. instead of, like, writing one thing at a time, able to write thousands of things to give, for example, vaccine denialism more oxygen than it deserves. >> reporter: and gary marcus, you just heard from there has written books about artificial intelligence. founded companies about artificial intelligence says we're about 75 years away from ai truly being human-like. until then we need regulation and representative ted lu from california plans to introduce legislation to create an ai commission to oversee all of this new technology. >> good idea. >> we know a lot but also very little about it. >> people are passing college courses with papers written by

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he was a human pinata, that is what an attorney for the family of tyre nichols is saying after watching video footage of memphis police officers beating the black man following a traffic stop earlier this month that led to his death three days later. the officers were also black and were fired from their jobs. nick valencia reports. >> reporter: it was an adult rated, unabashed nonstop beating of this young boy for three minutes. >> oh, my god. >> that is what we saw in that video. >> reporter: the mother of tyre

nichols wailing in agony as the family attorneys described what they saw in the video of his arrest. on january 7th, nichols was pulled over by memphis police officers for suspected reckless driving. during the traffic stop, police say there were two separate confrontations between nichols and police as he was being taken into custody. nichols was transported by ambulance from the scene, in critical condition. he died in the hospital three days later. >> he was a human pinata for those police officers. >> we don't want next week to see another video of a black person losing their life because of a traffic violation. >> reporter: emerging from the meeting with memphis city officials, nichols' parents said their son was a good kid, who did not deserve what happened to him. police said nichols fled from them on foot. nichols' stepfather said after watching the video, he believes nichols fled because he was scared. >> our son ran because he was

scared for his life. he did not run because he was trying to get rid of no drugs, no guns, no any of that. he ran because he was scared for his life. and when you see the video, you will see why he was scared for his life. >> nobody's perfect, okay. nobody. but he was damn near. >> reporter: five officers, all of whom are black, were fired by the memphis police department in connection with nichols' death, about two weeks after the incident. cnn has not been able to reach the officers for comment. none have been charged as of yet. speaking to cnn by phone, the shelby county district attorney said they expect to release the video either later this week or sometime next week, adding that they're bracing for the public's reaction. >> if there are any protests, they likely will be peaceful. >> reporter: and this morning we're learning that two memphis fire department personnel involved in the initial patient care of tyre nichols were fired because of this incident, in addition to the five officers

who were fired. all of whom are black. at the press conference yesterday, poppy, the family was asked if it makes any difference to them that the officers were black and not white to which ben crump responded, losing a son, the pain is still the same. poppy? >> losing a son is losing a son. nick, thank you for that reporting. >> let's discuss all of this. i want to bring in the district attorney there of shelby county, steve mullmroy. he met with the nichols family yesterday to show them the video of their loved one's last moments. good morning to you. can you tell us what the video shows. what did you see on it? >> well, i can't go into too much detail until we're ready to release the video and we're going to be doing that -- as your reporter said in the next week or two. but there are two different encounters. the second encounter was the one where the -- mr. nichols sustained the injuries.

i think that people will be able to draw their own conclusions once we show the video and we're trying to get that out to the public as soon as possible. >> you said draw their own conclusions. what do you mean by draw their own conclusions there? because you've seen it, what is your conclusion? >> i'm not prepared to make a legal conclusion just yet. we are doing everything we can to expedite the investigation so that we can release the video soon and also try to get to a point where we might be able to make decisions about charges as soon as possible and then we'll be able to make our formal conclusions at that time. i know that people are very, very concerned about this. i think the incident undermines -- has potential to undermine confidence in the fairness of our police force and our judicial system. that's why i called in the tennessee bureau of investigation to do an independent investigation and that's why i have assigned my newly created justice review unit, an independent unit in our office primarily designed to

look back for wrongful convictions or wrongful sentences, but also tasking them with making recommendations about whether there should be charges against the officers involved and if so, which kinds of charges. and we'll be making those decisions, we hope, as soon as possible. >> was this case the inspiration for that unit you just mentioned? >> no, actually, the inspiration for the unit was the fact that we have a bad record of wrongful convictions and in this county and across the country. >> okay. >> and we need to look back and correct those wrongful convictions and wrongful sentences. but that particular unit is designed to be independent. they don't work regularly with law enforcement or with the rest of the staff. they're housed physically separately from the rest of the office. they report directly and only to me. and that independence, which is useful in encountering whether prosecutors screwed up in the past with wrongful convictions, is also, i think, useful in making an objective determination about whether charges should be brought against officers in these officer-involved incidents. >> i want to stick to this particular case.

having said what you said, do you -- you said you have a terrible wrongful conviction rate or not to your liking, right? so, it has been mentioned numerous times that all of these officers were black. do you feel that they -- no matter the race of the officer, that they can be co-opted by a system or by bad training or by prior actions from other officers in the police department? >> i mean, i think the answer, don, to all the questions is yes. i think all those things may be a factor. and it is my hope that this incident, as tragic as it is, might lead to a broader conversation about reform of our police department, including the escalation, training and things of that nature. >> so, let's get back to the video of just -- if you will, for a second, you said the family has seen the video that the public will be able to make its own conclusion. if the family has already seen it, and there is public interest, high interest in releasing this video, why not do

it now? >> excellent question. i'm glad you asked that, don. we don't want to compromise the ongoing investigation. and this is a case in all situations like this, not just this case, a general matter, if you're doing interviews of people who are suspects, you don't want them to see the video first and allow them to tailor their statements to the video. but at the same token, even witnesses who are not suspects, you want them to be giving statements to law enforcement about their own independent recollections, not changing their memory based on what they saw on a video. so we want to make sure that key witness interviews are completed prior to releasing the video and that's really the preference that any case like this, that's why we're speeding up our witness interviews, we're trying to expedite the investigation as much as possible so that we can release that video very, very soon. >> d.a. mulroy, we hope you come back as this case continues on. thank you for your time.

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