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and in that mass shooting at a dance studio, we're learning what investigators found inside the gunman's home as the death toll rises this morning. the war in ukraine, russia reinforcing its front lines by adding tens of thousands of troops to the battlefield. but they're arriving unprepared as moscow builds up for a spring offensive. from new mexico to maine, the nation braces for a multi-based storm threat of snow and tornados that covers 2,000 miles. and a key hearing today in georgia over whether donald trump broke the law when he tried to overturn the election. the findings are in, but will the public see them? "cnn this morning" starts right now. we're going to begin with yet another grim reminder that our nation is suffering from what seems to be a never-ending crisis, a problem that is unique to america. california's reeling from three
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back-to-back mass shootings, investigators say a gunman killed seven people at a mushroom farm and trucking facility in a small northern california city of half moon bay. the suspect under arrest, the sheriff says it is believed that he was a worker at one of the locations. our nation as a whole has already suffered nearly 40 mass shootings this year alone and it is still january. this deadly month coming after 647 mass shootings last year objectively and tragically is an american crisis. veronica miracle is live with the latest. good morning to you. what do we know? >> reporter: good morning, don. some more disturbing news here out of half moon bay. we know that these two shooting locations where this massacre took place happened about five-minute drive from each other. and people work and live at these locations where this took place, it was in the afternoon after school had gotten out. so authorities say that children
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were present when seven people were killed at the first location. there were four bodies that were discovered by deputies. one person critically injured in the hospital. and at that second location, three bodies were discovered. and about a little over two hours after that first 911 call came in a deputy found 67-year-old chunli zhao at a police substation where they were able to take him into custody. the mayor saying that those victims are believed to be farm workers and some of them are chinese. very disturbing similarities here at the half moon bay mass shooting to the one in monterey park, two suspects both elderly asian men, a lot of disturbing similarities there. don? >> veronica miracle, thank you very much. we appreciate that. we should note president biden just released a statement calling the shooting senseless. this latest shooting that killed seven. he had already released a statement about the previous shooting that killed 11. he also pushed to take action in congress on assault weapons yet
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again. joining us now is san mateo county supervisor ray muller who represents the community. he's spoken to so many people after this. i will ask you the same thing that i asked the mayor this morning, which is can you believe that this happened after the shooting that murdered 11 on saturday night in california? >> so there is a duality in that answer. the answer is, no, i can't believe it happened to us, but, yes, i can believe it is happening because it is happening in every community across the country. >> you have spoken to people connected to the victims. what are you learning, sir? >> just -- actually just complete overcome with sadness. last night i was at the shelter when families, the news was being broken to them that their loved ones had passed. and saw the grief and agony in their face. it is horrifying what has happened in our community, but at the same time, the outpouring of love and compassion for our
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community, people showing up at the shelter late in the evening, bringing blankets, bringing food, working together and coming together around, we had quite a few people who were present at those sites who were in shelter late last evening. >> when you said -- you said duality in your answer, yes, you can believe it, no, you can't, i think most people feel that way, so i'm glad you said that. to bring this home for people, talking about the horrific tragedy, what specifically are they saying to you because this has a huge impact on their lives. what are they saying to you specifically? >> right, specifically right now they just want to know if their families were involved and they were trying to -- they're thinking about -- i mean, to be candid with you, we had grief counselors with people last night. we weren't trying to break down what they thought of the event, we were trying to provide them emotional support.
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so, it is not a circumstance where you're trying to break down their reaction to the shooting, it is where you're just trying to provide people to them to help them work through their emotions. >> and i understand there were children there, weren't there? >> yeah, there were. there were children present, we were with them last night. children are incredibly resilient. it is going to be some time before we can go and work through with them what they saw and felt. last night we were trying to provide them and surround them in love, frankly. so -- i was playing soccer with one of them and trying to provide them with as much support as possible while we help their parents. >> i'm glad you were able to do that for those kids. we're so sorry, yet again, that this has happened now to your community. >> my message to everybody out there is it could happen to your community too. we never thought it would happen to us. never thought it would happen to us. >> we're glad you could come on to convey that. thank you so much and be well.
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>> thank you. >> thank you. so take a look now at the side by side videos. put them up. this is where police are investigating the massacre in northern california, there was a vigil in southern california for saturday night's mass shooting at a dance hall. another victim died in the hospital, bringing to 11 the number of people killed. want to get now back to california, go to kyung lah, who has been following the shooting from the start, the one in monterey park. she has spoken to members of the community there. she's actually a member of the community herself. kyung, what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, don, certainly people understand that this has happened. everyone here knows that this is an american story that is now touching this society, but what they need to know most importantly from investigators is what is the motive? because for them, here, they need to understand why. >> it is like the center of the earthquake, right?
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you're right there. and you feel it shock you more. >> reporter: these are familiar images in today's america. that once felt so far away from monterey park. a city that prides itself for being the country's first asian majority suburb, a draw for immigrants searching for a bit of home. >> we want something really, really chinese, more asian, they come here to monterey park and you feel it, you sense it. >> reporter: why is that important in this country, to have a city like this? >> for asian people, they come here and you see the signs, they have all the chinese character there, and a lot of people they don't speak english at all, they feel very comfortable live here. >> multiple victims, gunshot wounds. >> reporter: the killer was not from the outside. he was one of them, striking at a dance hall, police say he knew, and on a holiday weekend.
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♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound ♪ >> so sad, of course, because life is most important for all the family members. sadness this happened, especially in the lunar new year. >> reporter: the weekend marked the city's first lunar new year festival since the pandemic began. and the ensuing fears caused by antiasian racism. this lunar celebration was to be a return, a new beginning for monterey park. but this crime has begun a new sense of belonging here to a shared american nightmare. >> it just makes people feel nervous, right? feel not at ease. why this killer will do this?
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>> reporter: and on this morning, we can't talk about monterey bay without -- monterey park without talking about half moon bay. the shooter of this mass shooting was 72 years old. the shooter in half moon bay, 67 years old. both asian men, both attacking their own communities. i spoke with one of the women you saw in that story, don, and she said very simply, what the hell is going on. don? >> that's true. that needs some unpacking, kyung, we'll stay on top of that. thank you very much. i appreciate that. for much more on the outbreak of violence across america, coming up at the top of the next hour, the mayor of monterey park will join cnn. attorney general merrick garland is addressing the justice department's dualing investigations into the handling of classified documents by the former president and the current president. >> we do not have different rules for democrats or republicans, different rules for
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the powerful and powerless, different rules for the rich, for the poor. we apply the facts and the law in each case in a neutral, nonpartisan manner. we will reach appropriate decisions in a nonpartisan and neutral way without regard to who the subjects are. >> house oversight committee chair james comer sent a letter to the secret service asking for them to provide visitor logs from president biden's home in wilmington where the fbi just went on friday and found more classified documents. paula reed is live in washington with more. i believe when they asked about visitor logs the administration had said those are not kept, right? do we know what the secret service have for the wilmington home? >> reporter: the secret service said in a statement yesterday they said, look, we don't keep visitor logs at this private residence. so the records that they're requesting may not actually
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exist. also important to note the secret service didn't protect that home between a critical period which is about march 2017 to march 2020. and that's the time during which, of course, he just left the vice presidency, wasn't the nominee, and the reason for this request is a pretty legitimate question, who could have potentially had access to the classified information that was at that home. now, that is a question that republicans and reporters will continue to ask, but it is not clear that these logs exist, and even if they do, if they have all the answers. >> okay, listen, what are people saying, paula, good morning to you what are people saying about garland? do they feel he's treating the cases exactly the same or should they even be treated exactly the same way? because it is nuanced. >> reporter: it is incredibly nuanced. to the average american on a superficial level, these cases do look the same and it has become a republican talking point, trying to argue that trump has been treated differently than biden. but let's be clear, the trump case is more legally significant
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because, first of all, we're talking about different amount of classified information that was retained. hundreds of documents with trump, versus dozens so far with biden. also, the way these two have interacted with the justice department, former president trump is under investigation for possible obstruction. there were also concerns that documents were being moved which is why the justice department executed a search warrant to try to uncover classified information. but also i don't want to downplay the significance of the biden investigation. with each new discovery of classified information legally and politically the risks for him continue to increase. the attorney general, he has a real challenge here to try to convince the american public that these cases are both being handled in a similar, fair manner, and, you know, it is not just the political stakes here, the legal stakes, it is also trust in the institution that he is now responsible for protecting. >> and to be clear, some of the classified documents that biden held, paula, would have been held longer than what trump removed, years longer, correct?
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>> that's exactly right. because it would have been from his time as vice president, which is, of course, before trump was even in office. so a lot of questions still with the biden classified document investigation, which is also much younger than the trump investigation. >> thank you, paula. appreciate that. u.s. and western officials are urging ukraine to shift its focus in its war with russia. we have a new report, that's next. and in a few hours, the bad blood between taylor swift and ticketmaster will be focused on a very serious senate hearing. how strong is ticketmaster's hold on live entertainment. is it a monopoly? we'll break that down. the only smart bed in the world that actively cools, warms and effortlessly responds to boboth of you. our smart sleepepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number.. what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair®
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this morning, ukraine is being urged to cut its losses for the fight for bakhmut and instead focus on planning an offensive in the south. u.s. and western allies advise ma bakhmut holds little strategic since for ukraine but sources say president zelenskyy seems reluctant to abandon the city that months of shelling has left heavily damaged. natasha bertrand joins me now with more. good morning to you. why zelenskyy hesitant to abandon bakhmut? >> reporter: unclear whether he would be willing to abandon the city, which really has become a symbol of ukrainian defiance over the last six months of fighting. city is completely destroyed. ukrainians and russians are going toe to toe there, expending large amounts of ammunition, huge amounts of casualties in this kind of world war i style fighting. but president zelenskyy does not necessarily believe that it is inevitable that russia is going to take the city and he believes that it is important for the
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ukrainian forces to keep it because it could allow ukrainian forces to take back the rest of the donbas region, which is what russia wants to do as well. he's not convinced at this point that it is time to give up bakhmut, but the u.s. is telling him, look, it is not a strategic enough city for you to be expending this amount of troops and ammunition on. we want you to focus more on the south and on a different style of fighting that does not give up as many troops and equipment as you're using right now. >> let's talk about the new reporting you have on the biden administration raising concerns with china over aid in russia's war effort. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yes, so we're learning the biden administration actually raised concerns directly with beijing about the idea and the fact that these chinese companies are sending military equipment to russians, to use in the war in ukraine. this is nonlethal aid, flak jackets and helmets. but things that the russians could really use right now. so the administration is trying to gauge whether or not beijing is actually aware of what these
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companies are doing, and whether they're complicit. right now the administration does not have a good idea of that, but they say that if it does come out that beijing is actually even directing these companies to help russia, then it is going to have a significant impact obviously on u.s./china relations. >> natasha bertrand, thank you very much. ukraine is hoping its western allies will send them german-made leopard 2 tanks. but germany has been resisting so far to do that. however, germany has said they will not stand in the way of other countries like poland who want to send some of their leopard tanks. joining us to explain all this, cnn anchor and national security correspondent jim sciutto. this has been all the talk in the past few days and germany would technically need to sign off, right, on a country like poland siending a tank they mad. they said they would not stand in the way. can you explain why the tanks matter so much in ukraine? >> it has echoes of debate we have seen since the start of the war, back to 2014, to focus on the next big weapons system. you remember the debate about
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sending fighter jets in. the west view, not the right weapon for this time, requires too much support, ukraine wanting the weapons systems. and there are a lot of similarities between that and these tanks now. let's talk about why specifically. leopard tank, leopard 2s, they have some advantages. one is they use nato standard ammunition. 120 millimeters, which makes it a lot easier for nato allies to provide that ammunition. they have more than the soviet made stuff that go to the tanks that ukraine relies on now. but the problem is it requires in general, i've spoken to former tank commanders, more support, more training for the crews, that kind of thing, so the question from the view of some u.s. officials is that this is more of a burden or could be a burden for ukrainian forces in the field than an advantage right now. >> and the idea too, jim, right, the belief that these leopard 2 tanks are much more effective on ukrainian terrain than u.s., right, than the u.s. tanks. can you talk about how effective they fared in the war? >> here is the thing.
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tanks have not done well in this war. >> in general? >> russia has lost -- these are conservative estimates, 1600 tanks, ukraine, close to 500. these are almost certainly underestimates. but let's take the numbers as they are, thousands of tanks have been destroyed already. they're big targets. ukraine had enormous success against russian tanks in small units, using those javelin shoulder-fired missiles and now relying on bradley fighting vehicles going in as well. they have antitank weapons. they're smaller, they're faster, u.s. officials believe that's the way ukraine should be fighting this war. and to kind of make them pin back with more tank divisions, make them more vulnerable, because russia has great antitank weapons. in fact, one u.s. official said to me the concern is ukraine will have its own tank graveyards like we saw for russian forces at the beginning of the war. one final note, just the numbers we're talking about here, russia has many hundreds of tanks deployed in ukraine. more than a thousand.
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poland is talking about sending in 14. germany has 200 leopard 2 tanks in storage. they're not going to send all of them. the numbers, the math in terms of writing that balance doesn't add up either. >> really lopsided even if you got all of them. jim, thanks for that. and this morning's number is 3.5 billion. we'll show you why. this is a tempur-pedic mattress and it's designed to help make aches and pains a thing of the past... by relieving pressure points and supporting your body in a way no other mattress can. experirience the mattress rankd #1 in customer satisfaction by j.d. power, four years in a row. >> tech: cracked windsdshield? make it easy and schedule with safelilite, because you can track us and see exactly when we'll be there. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: that's service that fits yo schedule. >> singers: ♪ safelite repa, safelite replace. ♪ go to safelite.com. - custom ink helps us motivate our students with custom gear. we love how custom ink takes care of everything we need so we can focus on the kids.
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♪ i have this thing where i get older but just ever wiser ♪ ♪ the nights become my afternoons ♪ taylor swift joins a growing list of angry artists against ticketmaster after the botched rollout of her tickets left millions of fans unable to get tickets and seats to her upcoming stadium tour. amy klobuchar says this chaotic sale highlights the problems in america's ticketing industry, but these problems are not new. for too long, the senator says, consumers have faced high fees, long waits, and website failures. >> today, klobuchar and the senate judiciary committee will
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address those issues when it holds a hearing on the lack of competition in the ticketing industry. so to remind us how we got here, let's bring in now harry enten. i think we gave the number, 3.5 billion, so -- >> why? >> so, why. this morning's number is as you said 3.5 billion plus. that was the presale request to ticketmaster.com for taylor swift's tour. those 3.5 billion requests overwhelmed the website back in november. it basically couldn't get those tickets that you actually wanted to get. a lot of angry taylor swift fans. and you're talking about the senate meeting they're holding today and i think the real question is ticketmaster a monopoly? that is the question that is being asked and it is being asked because take a look at the ticketmaster share of the market for ticketing and live events, 70% plus, major concert, primary ticketing, look at this number. 80% plus. so, basically, when it comes to
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getting your tickets for stuff like taylor swift, you got to rely on ticketmaster because really aren't many more options than that. >> what is the definition of a monopoly again? >> you know, a monopoly is the idea -- this is it. >> i like ticketmaster. >> i think so. this kind of gets at it, right? it would be one thing if it was a monopoly like everybody liked, like the game itself, but two ticketing giants, look at stub hub, a-plus according to the bbb, look at ticketmaster, a k c-plus. this gives you an understanding of what is going on here. not just that people have so few choices, they don't like the choice they have. and this gives you an understanding that you can actually be well liked if you're a ticketing giant. stub hub is a website that i use many times to get sports tickets. but ticketmaster is in a club of itself of not buyeing well like. here is the thing that comes
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down to it, when you upset taylor swift fans, you're upsetting a lot of americans. how many americans are swiftys? any type of fan, 44%, a bigger moderate fan, 24%. >> there is polling. >> there is polling on -- >> everything. >> 44% of america is a taylor swift fan? >> of any type. the big moderate fans are 12%. you have a dislike of ticketmaster and upset the wrong crowd and the result is that senate hearing that we have later today. >> learn something new every day. thank you, harry enten. appreciate that. disney world's splash mountain has been shut down after an outcry calling out the ride for being inspired by an old disney movie that uses racial stereotypes, but still some critics are saying disney made the wrong call. we'll discuss next.
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okay, so a live look at disney world this morning. you can see epcot in the distance there. just days after magic kingdom splash mountain ran dry after 31
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years riders took their final splashdown before it closed for good on sunday with some waiting nearly four hours at the height of the day. disney announcing in 2020 that it was planning to reimagine the ride after mounting complaints for its connection to the 1946 song of the south which has been criticized for racial stereotypes and nostalgic view of the post civil war south. the ride will be redesigned with disney's princess and the frog in mind, a movie featuring disney's first black princess tiana. still a petition mountain is still getting signatures. the petition says people don't understand when characters in song of the south who many have deemed to be a stereotype of a spiritual black man and claims there is a misunderstanding of his relationship with his employers on a georgia plantation which takes place after the civil war. it goes on to say, modifying
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splash mountain will not change history and will only encourage the easily offended to continue making desperate attempts at finding offensive and additional attractions. back with us, cnn anchor and correspondent and host of cnn podcast "the assignment with adi cornish," adi cornish. >> the cultture wars are skufskuft i exhausting. disney is in this, you know, got caught up in the culture wars the last couple of years. and right as the company is making sure to rephysiquous on parks, which is the big revenue generator, you have this kind of issue coming up putting them back in the news which is not ideal. i hesitate to engage on the whole song of the south part of it because i feel like it is practically an american past time to kind of justify the
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legacy and history of things related to this civil war. it is -- that is actually part of the history and aftermath of the war itself is this romanticization of anything connected to it. you guys are probably more into disney world than i am. is this that -- okay, tell me, is this the most exciting splash you can do there? >> i don't know. i've been once, last year, the kids, we're going again soon. i'm interested in how you think big picture, like, you talk about disney focusing on the parks and being lucrative. they have a new guy in charge again, the old guy is back, he's not old, but the former ceo bob iger is back, and i think it is going to be really interesting to see how he deals with these culture wars with ron desantis because he was really outspoken on this, you know, the -- sort of broader issue when florida went after disney about a year ago then bob chapek was. do you think new management changes -- >> it will be interesting to see how they try to walk the line.
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disney has done so much in the last few decades to really modernize its programming and the stories it is telling children, the way it presents families and ideas about families. that's very disruptive to people who see it fundamentally as a legacy brand and as something that is supposed to kind of look the same forever, you know what i mean. mickey mouse always looks the same basically and i think that seeing this push back now has been jarring for them. >> you can keep mickey mouse and do important things like one of our favorite movies in our household is disney's more recent "princess and the frog" and it is important for our children to see that diversity in these princesses. come on. >> yeah. and i think, again -- >> that's the key, i think. >> yeah. >> that's the key, it is moving forward and doing characters that are more diverse. listen, i have a -- >> you're saying would they be fighting about it if the splash mountain wasn't moving to a film that was a poc centered? >> i feel very similarly as i felt about "gone with the wind".
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we're talking about desantis and this whole idea. this is why you should be teaching these things, right, in schools. i think that this can be a teachable moment. i hate that cliche, but i think you can keep splash mountain and whatever it was based on and then teach kids about it. look, splash mountain, you don't have to go to splash mountain. kids have to go to a school. i would prefer my kids not go to a school named robert e. leie, would prefer the name to come off of it. for a ride that is voluntary that has a history, you can leave it and teach kids to say, look, this ride was created around this movie, which was a stereotype of black, you know, whatever -- >> but i don't go to corporate media for teachable moments, unfortunately. >> you don't have to go to disney. >> no one is going to be at splash mountain thinking about eyes on the prize or something. it is a dopey ride. i think sometimes we let people move the goal post on culture war discussions by drawing people into this kind of battle
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over this very silly thing. it is really -- it gets you tied up in things that do not matter. it is more significant for governor ron desantis to be tearing into the classroom saying what should and shouldn't be on the curriculum. it is far less so about, like, what color splash mountain is painted. i think it is a distraction from real political issues. >> for me it is just a solution that if you want to keep splash mountain the way it is, again, it is voluntary, it is -- >> the long list of things people want to keep the way it is gets longer and longer, right? that is part of this issue. time marches on. there is plenty of things that we don't do anymore including vaudeville. but this idea now that there are certain traditions that only certain people get to pick and choose which ones we should keep, it is pervasive and it is exhausting. >> don't you think it is -- it depends on what it is, like, it should be case by case, don't you think? >> yeah, but who decides? >> i think we decide. >> well, it sounds like people
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with petitions decide. >> what was it, 21,000 signatures to change it. >> change.org -- >> they can keep voting and voting and voting. what does change.org mean? >> change.org is important. i think sometimes when we get riled up in these debates, we have to say to ourselves what is this really about, who is behind it, and how much of a difference does it make to our material lives? >> so, you think splash mountain makes that much of a difference? >> i'm saying people splash away. it's fine. you need to put on headphones and play a song of the south to enjoy that ride, you get your life, you know. but i don't think that is -- >> i watch cartoons and it is cringy. very cringy. >> that's a whole other debate. i won't be playing dumbo in my house, but disney knows that. that's why they have made the changes they have. >> thank you, audi. someone messaged me after your last segment with us in the 6:00 a.m. hour and said how great you are, you are a gift to the
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can't wait for you to see -- >> i love this next story. >> you should read it. >> no, go for it. >> you should do it. this morning's moment. lost at sea until his family showed up shouting his name. a 21-year-old free diver was swept away by a current in key west, florida, last week, prompting a frantic rescue mission. here is the moment his family found him after he had been missing for hours in the north atlantic. >> wow. >> there he is! devin! >> that's him! devin! >> oh, my gosh. >> that is dylan, he grew up on
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the florida waters. his family believes though years of experience saved his life. he was free diving last thursday when he felt himself being taken by a strong current. by the time he resurfaced, he had drifted far from the boat. his two friends never saw him come back up. they got word to his family, who jumped in a boat, raced to the coordinates where he was last seen. his cousin said the first thought was that he blacked out while diving and drowned. she added, everything was silent on that boat until the flashlight hit him and he put up his hands and we finally knew he was okay. >> oh, my god! >> dylan! >> oh, my god! >> that was amazing. >> oh, my god. dylan! >> i love the water. and i can -- i know the currents
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can be crazy, right? because something can go wrong in an instant on the water. can you imagine hours without -- >> no, i can't. >> i think it was really smart, he -- more adept at navigating the waters than i am. they found him near a bowie. i wonder if that was helping him stay afloat. you see the big white balls in the water there. i wonder if he was -- he was near them, i'm wondering if he was kind of hanging on to those buoys or near the buoy to help. you can see that. >> someone was on his side. that's for sure. >> see them right there? so, they ran to the back of that boat and helped him on and i would have been doing the same thing. that was amazing. so happy for him. congratulations to him and his entire family. >> great story. now this. >> now this. the white house, the white house invites new members of congress over for an event today, it is unclear whether republican congressman george santos will be there and this morning most
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bloodshed." >> "fire of love." "a house made of splinters." and "navalny." >> okay. so moments ago the academy announced the nominees for the 95th academy awards which includes the cnn film "navalny." >> so exciting. >> it was a year of business directors, big stars and big sequels for hollywood and now several block busters are contenders to win hollywood's highest honor with names like top gun, avatar, "black panther" returning to theaters and shattering box office records. "the banshees of inisherin" and "everything everywhere all at once" breaking out and earning major recognition. let's talk about the nominations here with entei an entertainmen journalist. >> before we talk about these movies, are we cool with colbert? i wore my hood.
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i'm not playing. you don't come for the g.o.a.t. >> is this happening? >> if there's still smoke we're ready. >> what is this? >> it's all in good fun. >> i ride with don lemon. >> what are you going to do? >> i'm just saying whatever you want. >> i thought you were going to put your hood up, it's hilarious. >> i'm ready if they are ready. >> all in good fun. thank you. a lot of people said they wore the hoodies just because. >> absolutely. we have to let them know. >> let's talk about why we're here, "navalny" winning -- what did you make of what you've heard so far of the nomination? >> so if you look at the academy awards right now and you look at what the show is going to be, you see a knee-jerk reaction to first the hashtag #oscarssowhite but what happened in 2022. a lot of these nominees and even the people who are going to run the award show, it's, you know, jimmy kimmel is hosting again this year, right? so we had will packer, we had the first ever black production and director, you had female hosts and now because of maybe
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the will smith slap it is a reversal, you're going back to something tried and true. you see that even in the movies that are nominated. there's not as much diversity as we would like. >> "top gun," avatar, "black panther." >> block busters, true, but we want angela bassett, will the queen finally get her due? it's angela bassett and viola davis. these are african american women whose names we are familiar with and it doesn't seem that the academy stretched itself really. it's still a lot of the same. there is a bio pic with austin butler in elvis, there is a come back with brendan frazier and "the whale." it's basically paint by numbers again. >> i'm looking at these. it used to be like in the old days, back in my day, the people who were nominated and the films you would know every single one of them. >> absolutely. >> i know "top gun," "elvis" i
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kind of know, "avatar" obviously i know, but "everything everywhere all at once." >> that is michelle yeoh. it is a fantastic concept and it's a concept of a film, but movies used to entertain us and take us to a different place and really with these block busters finally the academy is saying the entertainment factor of a movie counts. >> like "top gun." >> like "top gun," "avatar." these are huge movies with huge box office and that -- if you are a fan of the movies, that's what you want to see. you want there could be what you like as well as the art house flicks. >> so they opened it up, it used to be four or five and now i'm like, wow, this is a ton of films. >> let's think of that for a moment. they open it up for way more movies and we still don't get the diversity in film. the same directors that we've heard for decades, spielberg,
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lerman, mcdonough, they have been nominated before or movies have won before. there's very few new even as they open it up to more slots. >> and the academy awards are so important obviously for the capital gains in terms of how much more money films make, but they're also really important because people will watch a nominated film they may not watch before so i think of our film, cnn film "navalny." the impact it has already had given this moment, russia's war on ukraine, given the imprisonment and dire health of navalny himself, the fact that this has an academy award nod is huge for how many more people will see this and learn his story. >> hopefully people will see. i agree with you, poppy, 100% that if the award still had the glitter and the glam that they should, then this documentary will open eyes, but what we've seen is that that gold statue is not necessarily a golden ticket to eyeballs on those films and those actors and actresses even getting more work.
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we think of halle berry winning an oscar for "monsters ball." >> i don't forget that speech, that dress, all of that. >> we don't see her getting the type of roles that an oscar-winning actress should receive. you see that a lot unfortunately with the academy. >> that happened -- that happens to a lot of people who win academy awards, they say their career after they win the award -- >> really? >> adrian brody. i can go name for name. >> i have to see "everything everywhere all at once" because i love jamie lee curtis. i love her. one question before i go and maybe there is no answer, is angela bassett -- does she ever age? i want to have whatever she's having. >> whatever deal angela made with the higher ups and by higher ups i mean the people upstairs, please tell me because i need that. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> it was fun. >> good luck to everybody. "cnn newsroom" starts now. ♪

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