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top of the hour in the "cnn newsroom." i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim sciutto. a spate that is ome normal in this country after california was rocked by three mass shootings in three days. here is what we know. on saturday, 11 people were killed in monterey park. overnight one person was killed. seb others injured in oakland and that happened just hours after a gunman opened fire killing at least seven people at two separate locations, this shooting, the third one in half moon bay. this is something we see more and more. you hear the headlines from us. it is hard to communicate and
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i'm sure it is hard for you to hear. >> we have some video that we want to share with you, of part of what happened in half moon bay yesterday afternoon, the sheriff's video here. so this is the arrest of the 67-year-old suspect in the two shootings in half moon bay. a handgun was found in his vehicle. as for a motive, still no word at it hour. but all of this unfolding as we have also learned that an 11th person has died after initially surviving that mass shooting at the dance hall in monterey park on saturday. the gunman had stockpiles of ammunition at his home. we'll bring you more of what else they're staying in a moment. >> and he also made his own silencers. we begin with the shooting in half moon bay. >> veronica miracle is there on the scene and she'll bring us up to speed on that investigation.
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>> reporter: this mass shooting took place at two separate locations. and it all unfolded in a period of a couple of hours. the first call came in just before 2:30, sheriff's deputies received a call of a shooting with multiple victims and when they arrived they found four bodies and a fifth person who was still critically injured. then a short distance away they found another three bodies. all seven of the victims killed by gunshot injuries. then about two hours after that initial 911 call came in, the suspect was discovered by a deputy, he was sitting in his car apparently at a police substation and that is when 67-year-old was taken into custody without incident. there is still no clear motive at this time. they don't know why this happened. but they do believe that zhou worked at one of the locations where this took place, where the shootings took place. they also believe that he acted alone and that there is no current threat to the community.
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here is what the vice mayor had to say. >> this is something that we get to watch on the news. never think that it is going to come and hit home. today we are on the news. >> reporter: there are many disturbing similarities between this shooting in half moon bay and the shooting in monterey park in southern california. only a couple of days ago. both of the suspects in both of these mass shootings are older asian men. and both of them accused of going after other asian individuals during a very -- what is supposed to be a joyful celebratory time for many asian communities just after lunar new year. very devastating for this community and many communities across the state and the country. jim and erica. >> veronica miracle, thank you. joining us on the phone is san mateo county sheriff.
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i was struck by something you said just in the aftermath of the shooting. noting that there were children who witnessed some of this. you called that unbearable. do we know how those children are doing this morning and is there any indication that they were a target? i would hope not. >> yeah, as far as we understand, this suspect had individuals that he targeted. and what we've learned is this turned into a workplace violence incident. and he had an opportunity, we do believe, to hurt other people, but he had targeted individuals that he went after and pursued. and the children, you know, the county of san mateo has been great. they were able to put these families up in hotels and we had grief counselors on scene last night. and we're hoping that they got some rest and we'll be
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revisiting them this morning. >> sheriff corpus, this is jim sciutto, you have learned more about the weapon involved here and how it was obtained? >> from what we understand, he had legal possession of a semi-automatic weapon. it was registered to him. this was not an incident where the gun was -- that he had illegal possession of the gun. he had no gun registered to him. >> so the gun was legally registered? you mention he believe he was targeting specific individuals. is this the suspected gunman, is this somebody who is known to authorities or was he ever a concern at his place of employment? >> not at this time. we hear in san mateo county, he was -- wasn't a red flag for us.
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nothing to put him on our radar. and he was known to the individuals at the workplace because he was employed there. >> sheriff corpus, was the suspect nobody to law enforcement prior? >> not -- not in san mateo county here. we're still learning more about this individual. but you know there was nothing that would have kind of elevated or raised us to have any concern with him at this time prior to this incident. >> so the alleged gunman here in half moon bay and the monterey park shooter over the weekend, they're both older men and in this country while we're accustomed to mass shooters this is not the profile of a shooter that many people are used to seeing. from a security and a safety perspective, does this change anything for you? >> you know, it really opens our
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eyes that, you know, stressors of the world get to people. and sometimes people, you know, end up snapping, and i think we have to really look at, you know, mental wellness for everyone in our society. we don't have at least here in california, we're limited to mental health facilities. there is still a stigma with asking for help and this is i think one of these issues where someone, you know, snapped, unfortunately, and people -- innocent people were killed. and i think that at least here in san matteo county, that is something that we're working at. and it is a tragedy. and as i said, you know, we see this too often in our country. >> yeah.
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>> but when it hits home, it -- the knife cuts deeper and our communities are suffering. >> this person certainly appears to have snapped as we see in so many cases. they snapped and had a gun. which allowed them to kill so many people. so quickly. california has strict gun laws. is there some change that you would like to see to help make something like this less likely in the future? >> i think we have to work on it from a larger per he spective a how we as a society to come together and look at the gun laws but again our mental wellness and mental illness. it is far too tragic. in this instance, he had the gun legally registered to him. so safeguarding, having i think stricter laws on, you know, do more security checks on these individuals that the guns are
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registered to is a starting point. obviously, the laws have changed quite a bit. and, you know, i think this is really going to open up more discussion around this and we just have to look at it from a multi-prong approach. because it is not just the guns, it is also the individuals that had access to guns and those individuals that are suffering from mental illness or mental stressors. >> sheriff christina corpus, appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you. >> thank you for having me. well an update on the shooting in monterey park, california. the first of three in those violent few days. an 11th person has died overnight after being shot on the weekend. that dance studio during a lunar new year celebration. >> my nan and lee long li are
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among those killed and investigators work to identify the remaining seven victims. we understand they're looking for any connection to the gunman. kyung lah is live in monterey park. what more do we know this morning about the investigation and what they're learning about potential connections? >> reporter: well they are getting getting certainly a sense here, about how much weaponry and ammunition was involved. they completed a search of the gunman's home and according to authorities they did recover an additional rifle. hundreds of rounds of ammunition as well as equipment to build home-made firearm suppressors if you will. that is what authorities are telling us. and they also say here at the dance studio where the shooting took place, they did recover 42 bullet casings. they did also come up with a large capacity magazine and did recover an additional handgun in the suspect's van. so that is the weaponry that we're talking about.
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so there is a larger scope of how much was involved. you mentioned that there are now a total of 11 victims. the identification, the sad notification of these families is still continuing. there are at least three people in the hospital still and so all of this, jim and erica, still continuing in monterey park. >> appreciate the new details and the reporting there. thank you. well as we witness and report, these latest horric of mass shootings. these in california, a legal battle is playing out over the new ban on semi-automatic weapons in the state of illinois. the state attorney general is asking an appellate court to step in after a judge granted a temporary referendum. the law was passed in the wake of another mass shooting, on july 4th in highland park. it caps the sale of high capacity ammunition magazines. we saw those used in monterey park. and they allow them to fire
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rounds automatically and extends the possibility to prevent dangerous individuals from possessing a gun through firearm restraining orders. joining me to you discuss, illinois state representative bob morgan. he represents highland park, io you on this morning. >> it is good to see you again, jim. >> so in the wake of this we saw three shootings in three days in california. which like illinois has some strict gun laws. what is your response to the claim, well, hey, they passed a laws and it didn't make a difference there. what data, if i could ask por pointedly, backed up illinois's decision to pass the legislation it did in the wake of highland park, in terms of what state laws do, if anything, to reduce gun violence? >> well, and it is unfortunately good to be with you and it was about six months ago, you and i
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spoke the day after the shooting in highland park. so to see what illinois has done where we took our pain and turned it into purpose and passed really meaningful, as you menged, broad-based legislation to reduce gun violence. the data suggests that when we have a national assault weapon ban, mass shootings went down. there were fewer of them. high-capacity magazines result in more bystander violence. we know the red flag laws work. so there are a number of elements of this legislation that will reduce gun violence in illinois. but it's horrific. when i wake up and i read the news about another mass shooting like what just happened in california, multiple times now, in the last few days, it crushes us. those of us who have been through this. >> i mean, as you say, when we talked then, there was no question there would be another mass shooting but the only question was which community or communities, right, would face the next one. and here it is a span of a few days. a consistent feature of many
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shootings is often times even if a state law would have banned a certain weapon, the gunman could get it from outside of state or under more restrictive state laws they could still get a gun. tell us why you believe a state law, even if your preference is national legislation, but a state law like the one you passed in illinois will make a difference? >> like you said, a national law is preferable when you deal with interstate commerce and things like firearms. but what we did in this legislation is not just ban the sale of semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines and we put into place a core function of the illinois state police to go after gun trafficking. one of the things that day of thea and search showed that over 40% of gun crimes come from guns that originate in other states. indiana, missouri and other states like that. so we're going to work closer with atf and doj and also our illinois state police though make sure we're combatting some of this illegal gun trafficking which is directly connected. >> i heard the same from new
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york cops. they talk about guns coming in from outside of the state. you do have sheriffs in your state, illinois, who are vowing to defy the assault weapons ban and not enforce it. can these sheriffs effectively derail the law? >> no. and these are elected officials and they're political grandstanding and posturing. this law doesn't really require the sheriff's of these counties to do anything. other than follow the law. so, we have a year of implementation here and these sheriffs are taking a template statement and they're saying, we have one job to do which is to enforce the law and we're not going to do it. it is too much for us. so i'm pretty embarrassed on their behalf. because i think they're all acknowledging they can't do their jobs and the voters will have something to say about that. >> state rep bob morgan, i'm sorry that we're speaking again under the circumstances of another act of gun violence but thanks so much for joining us this morning.
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>> thanks for having me and best to everybody who is experiencing this gun violence in california. >> yeah. still to come this hour, a georgia judge is hearing arguments on whether to publicly release the special grand jury report details former president trump trump's efforts to interfere with the election in that state. and plus testifying before a senate committee this morn on the heels of the tail lor swift concert ticket debacle. new questions this morning about the company's lack of competition. and later some schools are now banning a powerful new technology that can speak and write frightingly well including essays for students. what it could all mean, coming up. earning on my favorite soup. aaaaaah. got it. earn big with chase freedom unlimited. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. not flossingng well? then add the whoa!a! of listerine to your routine.
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well just over an hour from now a georgia judge is set to hear arguments on whether to publicly release of the final report of the special grand jury that president trump and his allies efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. >> as a reminder, this is the investigation that began after then president trump made his infamous phone call to the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, asking hip to find the 11,780 votes he needed to win, to overturn joe biden's win in the state of georgia. joining us, eli honig. good to have you on. >> jim, good to see you. >> so, as a former prosecutor, say you were involved in this case, would you want the special grand jury findings to be made public? would be that a advantage or disadvantage? how would it effect the next steps in this investigation?
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>> absolutely not, jim. as a prosecutor, i would not want any of the grand jury findings made public for a couple of primary reasons. first of all, this is an ongoing investigation. you're not going to open up your books to the public to your potential targets, your subjects. you could jeopardize, you could reveal your cooperators, your informants and witnesses and put people in danger and jeopardize your tactics and what documents do you have, do you have wiretaps, all of that could be out there. second of all, as a prosecutor you have an obligation to the people you're investigating. you can't put out negative information about people who aren't even charged yet. never mind convicted. so i would not want this out. this is a special grand jury and the rules are different in georgia. but tactically, no way do i want this out there. >> so in full disclosure here, there is a group of media organizations, cnn among them, that is pushing for the full release because transparency. if you are the judge, though, in this case, how are you weighing all of those factors in your
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decision? >> so, those are the primary consider gs. there is a group of media organizations including cnn that want to see this. as a member of the public and the media. the judge has to weigh that and take into consideration. the judge has to see where is the d.a. going to land. they have not taken a a position on what she wants to happen here. and the judge has to weigh are there any individuals here, whether it is donald trump or anyone else who may be mentioned in this court who there could be recommendations against. and trump's team has said publicly they're not taking a position. so the judge has to weigh the need for transparency against the need to protect individuals and the investigation. >> i'm going to ask you a question i get all of this time on this and the other investigations. but let's focus on this one. this is just a special grand jury, it is not a grand jury that might indict. that is a whole separate step. where do we stand in this investigation? what is the most likely timeline
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for a file decision on whether to indict and not to indict ? >> understand, this ball is in the d.a.'s court. whatever the grand jury report may say, whether it recommends indictment or against it, ultimately it is the d.a.'s decision whether she wants to next take the case to a regular grand jury which does have the power to indict. any sense is this is moving quickly. it moved very slowly. the d.a. did nothing for a year and change. this grand jury has been sitting since last may. but we've seen a slew of subpoenas to rudy giuliani and mark meadows and the d.a. has to understand that time is very short. it has already taken too long. we're rounding into the heart of 2024 campaign. this task is only going to get more complicated politically as we get closer and more time passes. >> elie honig, always i appreciate it, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. new this morning, three members of oath keepers and a fourth person associated with
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right now on capitol hill, the ceo of live nation is testifying about the meltdown that happened when taylor swift's upcoming tour went on sale on the ticketmaster site which live nation owns. millions of fans were locked out or had to spend hours on the site to get tickets. amy klobuchar said it is not just about swift, but a larger issue with competition for events like this. >> today live nation doesn't just dominate the tickets. it is about 70% of the big concert market. but also they own many of the major venues and for the venues that they don't own, they tend to lock in on three, five,
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seven-year agreements, which means that the competitors that are out there aren't able to even compete when it comes to the ticketing. >> cnn's matt egan joins us now. this is something that most people could get behind in terms o of a frustration. they can't get the tikes and when they do, they're crazy expensive. what are we hearing? >> they're facing a bipartisan backlash this morning. you know, the sale of taylor swift, it was botched so badly that it set off the first senate hearing of this year. and ticketmaster, they are trying to shake it off. >> oh, matt egan. >> but that is not going to be easy. because is just so much bad blood out there. >> he's giving you a run for your money. >> i used shake it off last time. but anyway, fantastically done. >> thank you. what is new here is that the
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live nation executive, he is -- he's saying that this was being caused by kind of a perfect storm here. one there was unprecedented demand for taylor swift tickets. two, they faced this surge of bot traffic from scalpers. when they say scalpers. and for the first time live nation is also pinning the blame on cyberattacks. listen to what joe burchhold said about this just now. >> $5 billion industry in concerts alone in the industry. fueled by practices that run counter to the interest of artists and their fans. the recent on sale experience with taylor swift, one of the world's most popular artists has highlight the need to address these issues urgently. we knew bots would attack that on sail and planned accordingly. we were hit with three times the amount of bot traffic and for the first time in 400 verified fan on sales they came after our verified password servers as
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well. >> and so he went on to say that this is what led to the terrible consumer experience and they were forced to slow down or even pause the sale. live nation, they apologized to disappointed fans as well as taylor swift. but this whole debacle has shined a bright light on what is an archaic issue and this is the idea that some giant corporations have gotten too dominant. that they could charge fees that people have no choice but to pay. an that is central point here. whether or not live nation has become a monopoly hurting consumers. >> and i think you would hear from music fans. >> and some musicians. >> and the company is saying, you don't blame me. right, erica. but i don't want any bad blood with matt egan here. this is all i know. >> he's lying.
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he has such a repertoire. >> we'll all been through it. >> and it is not better until something gets done and we'll see if anything comes out of these hearings. appreciate it. >> matt egan, thank you so much. >> thank you. turning now to south carolina, the latest on a double murder case that has garnered international attention. this is day two of jury selection underway at this hour for the trial of disgraced former attorney alex murdaugh. they allege he shot and killed his wife and 22-year-old son in an attempt to cover up fraud. joining me now to discuss, attorney eric bland who represented the sons of murdaugh's former housekeeper gloria saterfield. she died in 2018 in what was referred to as a slip and fall accident at the family home. there were some questions after that. eric, it is good to have you with us today. i think what has garnered so much attention are not just the details of this case, but the details of this family and how deep the roots are in this particular county in south
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carolina. they go back generations where the murdaughs have been prosecutors and even in jury selection yesterday, protective jurors were asked about potential ties to the family, whether they attended parties or gatherings hosted by them, have they heard about the case. can you just walk us through how deep that history and influence is in this county? >> good morning. thanks for having me. it is a rich and long cemented history, not only in the county where the case is being held in collin, but the surrounding counties of hampton and buford county where the murdaughs for generations were solicitors in those counties. to give you an example, when the judge asked does anybody know of the murdaughs or heard of the events which have given rise to these criminal murder charges, every single person of the 600 or so that was in the pool stood
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up. and he said anybody who has not heard, please stand up. no one stood up. so we have a rich knowledge of this jury pool of either circumstances surrounding this case, or knowledge of the murdaugh's being solicitors or good lawyers. and do not kid yourself, there is a significant contingent in that jury pool that have some favorable feelings either towards alex or to the broader family in general. and this is a circumstantial evidence case and i think the state has made some unforced errors in the crime scene, examination and analysis that they've done and i really think that there is a good chance that there could be a hung jury or some type of verdict that is different than a guilty verdict, whether it is to a lesser
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included offense on murder or something. >> to that point, does it surprise you at all, i was talking about this with the defense attorney yesterday who said it is not surprising that the defense wouldn't ask for a change of venue because this could play in their favor. but in south carolina, the prosecution could also ask for a change of venue. is it surprising to you that they didn't? >> well each side is walking on that razor's edge. the defense thinks there are still a significant contingent in the county that do have favorable impressions of the murdaughs. and dick has spent a significant time with jury consultants and different people in the local to focus on getting one or two of jurors on that jury who will be advocates for him and could possibly be a not guilty verdict. the state on the other hand thinks that the murdaughs have burned all of the good will that they've had in those counties for all of the years that they've done because alex has
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committed so many despicable crimes. i mean he checks the boxes of being a serial pen slinger, of stealing money from family and friends and clients, law partners. he's an income tax evasion. he tried to shoot himself on labor day and now he's accused of the ultimately crime of killing your spouse and then that one step further, that you rarely hear about, a parent killing a son. so the state feels that that good will, whatever existed, has been burned and that in this small county there are very conservative juries who are law and order types and state is banking on that these jurors will be more disposed to their case as opposed to the defense that is going to be mounted. >> i mean, details since the initial deaths, right, just in the last couple of years. >> shocking. >>. >> there were new investigations into the death of gloria saterfield. he's facing 12 lawsuits.
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appreciate your insight. thank you for being with us this morning. >> sure. have me on any time. thank you. all right. from the real sci-fi files, artificial intelligence that could write in an eerily convincing way and it is so advanced it could even pass college exams. so what kind of impact could it have on schools and entire industries. the spread of misinformation as well. lots of big questions. that is coming up. for people who are a little intense about hydration. neutrogena® hydro boost clinically proven. 48-hour dration. for that healthy skin glow. neutrogena®. for peop.
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microsoft is now making a multi-billion dollars investment in the company behind the viral new chat bot tool called chatgpt. when put to the test, it has answered questions with responses that appears if a real human being wrote it. it is remarkable and a little bit scary stuff. >> so remarkable, that new york city public schools banned the platform to cut down on cheating. the program could write an entire school paper in minutes. vanessa yurkevich reports. >> reporter: chat gpt, short for chat jenner aive pretraining transformer that could generate human like text. it allows it to understand and respond to a wide range of questions and prompts. what you just heard me reading wasn't written my be. it was written by artificial intelligence. chat gpt.
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i simply typed in a prompt, write a tv news script written by a report about chat gpt and in seconds the ai spit out the copy you just heard. it has exploded in popularity in recent months. ceo's no are you using it to write emails and it even passed a whorton school of business exam. >> should people be more excited about chat gpt or more fearful of it. >> i think they should have a mixed view. >> they say the technology is still in its research phase and can produce inaccurate information. >> you like artificial intelligence, but are you here to issue a warning about it. >> absolutely. it is like a teenager right now. it is exciting to see a teenager like get its footing. but it is also not there yet and we can't trust it. >> but microsoft thinks it is a good bet. even with some risks.
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they're investigating billions of dollars in open ai. jack po has chat gpt take three versions of the u.s. medical licensing test. and it passed all three. >> not only can it answer very complex questions, it could also modulate its answer. >> po and his team of 30 doctors started using the platform to help with treatments with patients with copd, a pulmonary disease. >> what this could enable and has started enabling us is to suggest things that we might not be thinking of at all. it will absolutely save lives. >> reporter: jake keller is a lawyer and founder of case text which helps clients comb through documents using ai like chat gpt. >> you could have it read police reports and if witnesses gave contradictory testimony and you could help find information that is pertinent to guilt or innocence. >> reporter: but po and heller
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both say that human oversight of chat gpt is still necessary. open aive said the platform could produce harmful instructions. >> in law, there absolutely is right and wrong answers. and that is why chat gpt will not handle some of the most importance questions in fields like law. >> and then there is the question of plagiarism. new york city public schools banned it on school network devices due to concerns about negative impacts on student learning, and concerns regarding the safety and accuraty of content. >> it is incredible innovation. but at the same time it is like opening a pandora's box. >> reporter: which is why edward, a 22-year-old princeton student himself, spent his winter break building gpt zero, which he said could detect whether something is likely written by a human or chat gpt. he said teachers use it to check their students' papers. >> is this like one ai
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cross-checking another ai? >> in a sense, yeah. >> but can it spot misinformation? >> oh, okay. yeah. so as opposed to misinformation, it is more of like it could only spot if something is ai generated or human generated. >> and that is the greatest fear of all. spreading misinformation. chat gpt, a tool designed to help humanity could ultimately hurt it. >> people who want to manipulate elections and things like that, instead of writing one thing at a time. you could write thousands of things to give for example vaccine denialism more oxygen than this deserves. >> and gary marcus went on to say that we're about 75 years away from the place where artificial intelligence like chat gpt is human like. so until then, he said that we need regulation and just this week representative ted lieu
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from california announced that he would be introducing legislation that would create a commission on ai because, yes, this is a marvel, but we still don't know a lot about it and until then, many experts say there needs to be some formal regulation in place. jim and erica. >> but the question is did he say 75 years or did the machine say 75 years. >> he did. that is a very good question. >> vanessa, thank you so much. >> thank you. well we now have the nominees for this year's academy awards. the surprises and the snubs and the favorites just ahead. so adding a student title might feel daunting. national university isis here to support all your titles. national university. supporting the whole youou. good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. okay everyone, our mission i complete balanced nutrition.
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what the hell. >> good morning aviators. this is your captain speaking. >> top gun maverick one of three blockbusters getting a nod for best picture when the academy award nominations were announced. elvis and avatar two also named in that category. >> top gun maverick was damn good. let's go to entertainment recorder khloe malice. it is a major shift with the focus on a big blockbuster. >> it is a huge shift jim and erica. when i walked out of top gun this summer, i was like -- i tweeted it. look at my tweets. he said this is needing to be nominated for an oscar. i was shocked that tom cruise wasn't nominated because he revived movie theaters would say over the summer with top gun grossing over a billion dollars. it is going to compete against avatar, the way of water for best picture. but we have haven't seen a big blockbuster win since titanic, you could go back to forrest
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gump. it has happened before. everything, everywhere all at once leads the way with 11 nominations so this could swoop in and win. and angela basset is getting praise for her role in black panther. she gets nominating for best supporting actress, the first acting oscar nominee for the marvel film. so something that people aren't happy about this morning is no women were nominated in the best director category. so that is something to watch that is probably going to be trending on social media. and then when it comes to director, steven spielberg for the fableman's and then another movie that is leading the way with a lot of oscar nominations is the banchys of insherran. and i watched that the other day and it is really good. set in ireland. it is beautiful to watch. >> sounds good to me. >> so much happening. so much to get excited about. i have a lot of homework to do. because i have not seen much.
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hello, everyone. at this hour, california's third mass shooting in just 48 hours. what we know now about the suspects and what we're learning about the victims. plus, ukraine's president, he just fired several to