this just in to cnn at this very hour. new and disturbing details on the death of tyre nichols, three

days after a memphis traffic stop. lawyers for nichols' family tell cnn preliminary results from an independent autopsy show the 29-year-old died from, quote, extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating. the family says this is consistent with what they saw on the video of his encounter with police. nichols beaten for three minutes. just think about that. a boxing round, three minutes. three minutes this man was allegedly beaten by five officers. five black officers were fired even before the video of that arrest has even been publicly released, and two members of the memphis fire department have also been fired in the week of nichols' death. i want to bring in steve mulroy, the shelby county district attorney dealing with this very investigation down there in memphis. steve, it's good to see you this evening. there are a lot of questions being asked about what happened

to tyre nichols. and when the public might be able to see this video for themselves. any idea when it will be released and what are the considerations to do so? >> right. well, thank you for having me, laura. a lot of the people's questions about what exactly happened will of course be answered once people see the video. we expect that to happen this week or next week. we want to make sure that we get far enough along in our investigations that the investigation isn't compromised by premature release of the video. and just to be very concrete about that, if -- in a case like this, or really any case, laura, if you are going to interview a suspect, you don't want the suspect to be able to see the video and then tailor their statements to law enforcement based on what they've seen, because now they know what you've got. and even nonsuspect witnesses, there is a risk that rather than telling law enforcement what they actually saw with their own eyes, they might have their

memory colored by what they saw on the video. so in cases like this, we generally want to get key witness interviews completed and we're doing that as fast as we can, and then i think the video will be released. >> so has this video been seen individually by any of these five officers who were fired or the two firemen as well, or their counsel or the police union? >> not to my knowledge, but we did -- we do know that the family of tyre nichols and their counsel was shown the video. >> will there be the full video provided once the concerns you have raised have been resolved in terms of -- i understand completely the idea of not wanting to fatally compromise the investigation and to provide at least the avenue for the pursuit of justice. is the intention to show the full footage? and is it comes from body cam footage? is it coming from a police vehicle? where is the footage coming

from? >> well, it's already clear that there is some body cam footage. they were onduty officers. i believe that the city will show enough footage so that people will see the entirety of the incident from the very beginning to the very end. >> what does it tell you, and what should it tell the public, frankly, that you've got officers fired before this has even been released, before there has even been an assessment of charges to be made? and i note that memphis did change its policy with regard to issues surrounding the use of force, the duty to render aid, the duty to intervene, adopted less than a month after george floyd's death. does this somehow telling about the failure to do all of these things by each of these officers? >> well so, the fact that they were terminated means that the city made an administrative decision that the officers did not follow protocol, did not

follow the guidelines, and it was a serious breach of those guidelines. we know we have a relatively new police chief. he has only been in office for about a year and a half. there were some changes made in response to the george floyd incident. but, you know, laura, it takes a while to change a culture. and you can't just turn that on a dime. and so it may be that there's more to be done. and i'm hopeful that what silver lining there could be out of this tragic incident, it might open up a broader dialogue about police reforms. >> you know, one of the dialogues that it's really opening even more is the idea that oftentimes when we're talking about excessive force cases, and the killing of an unarmed black man or black or brown person, it is a conversation around race, and the racial dynamic, and white officers who are alleged to have behaved in this way to create those conversations. here we've got five black officers.

i've often said in my prosecution experience in the past, the color blue can trump every other color. what is the community in memphis and in shelby county more broadly saying about the fact that the race of these officers is the same as the race of the victim tyre nichols? is this a conversation that is stunning the people or is it par for the course, knowing that blue can trump black? >> well, certainly i think people who were discussing this case in memphis in shelby county have taken note that the race of the officers involved and the race of mr. nichols is the same. i think it might lead some to say, as i think the lawyer for tyre nichols's family has said the relevant consideration is the race of the citizen as opposed to the race of the police officer. >> do you expect charges in this case? >> well, so that's what i'm going to be deciding with my

office based on the facts and the circumstances. i can't really say right now. i think it would be improper for mere to say what i'm going to do, or when we're going to do it. but i will tell you that we are expediting the considerations and expediting the consideration as much as possible, and it is possible that we may be able to make a determination around the same time frame in which we contemplate release of the video. >> has the department of justice or the fbi become involved? i know there are cases involved oftentimes where civil rights division is looking into whether the civil rights of the individual victim have been violated. we saw that in the case in my own home state of minnesota, officers charged in the killing of george floyd, also being brought up on civil rights violations. has that coordination been done? >> yes, yes, laura, it has. the department of justice has already announced that they're getting involved. the fbi is cooperating in the investigation with the tennessee bureau of investigation, who i

called in so that it would be a truly independent investigation. i'm in regular contact with the u.s. attorney here in memphis, and we are collaborating on this. i myself used to be a u.s. department of justice civil rights lawyer before i was a federal prosecutor. and so i know that the federal part of the investigation will often take longer than the state part of the investigation. so i suspect that our office will render a decision well before the federal authorities make their decisions. >> often considered the back stop in looking to see, but continuously proactive. when we met, steve, i knew we'd meet again one day, but i couldn't imagine it would be these circumstances. thank you for joining us. >> yeah. thank you, laura. >> i want to bring in cnn legal analyst elliot williams and former fbi assistant director for intelligence joshua school. it's a very difficult case to think about this happening, the idea of the allegations of a person being beaten for three minutes following a traffic stop

for purportedly reckless driving. we've learned from the family during their watching of the video, one of his last words were a call out to his mother. apparently he was 80 to 100 yards to his home. when we hear about this and what's happening now, i'll begin with you, joshua, on this. do you expect to see charging decisions given the firings that were almost immediate? >> i do expect to see charges coming pretty quickly on the stateside, as the district attorney had said. there are two parallel investigations going on right now, and both in collaboration. you have the tennessee bureau of investigation, which the district attorney called in to keep impartiality over this investigation, and then a parallel civil rights investigation being conducted by the federal bureau of investigation in conjunction with the u.s. attorney's office. >> on that note, do you think that there will be charges here, elliot? we've all spoken about the derek chauvin trial and the way we

thought collectively as a society, man, policing might change in a sense of those watching an the duty to render aid. remember, there was the powerful closing arguments, talk about the duty of care owed, repeated time and time again. the fact that they were fired and violated policies for use of force, duty to render aid, and duty to intervene, what does that tell you? >> duty to render aid and duty to intervene, those are buzzwords for civil rights charges. we saw those frankly in the shoefb case where a number of the individuals who were at the scene, it was their failure to render aid that triggered the civil rights statute. now the family is asking for murder in the first degree, it's going to be pretty hard to get here, i think. but there is any number -- >> even though premeditation can form in an instant? >> sure, certainly. but i think -- that's the highest, and it's a capital charge in tennessee. that might be tough to establish. but there is any number of

secondary manslaughter, all sorts of assault and so on. it is important to wait until the video is out and to -- we are evaluating a very painful, very gruesome almost but not having seen it. and we're just not certain. now look, like you said, laura, the fact that the police department has stepped in and found that the conduct so far exceeded the standards of that department is itself telling, but none of us have actually seen what played out. >> a good point and one that needs to be echoed again. the idea we have not seen this video. and his point, you heard him, was the idea of not wanting to show it because didn't want anyone's testimony to conform to that. and the idea of what this is like. and a question for you is what happens if this video is different than it is being discussed? is it's either -- i mean, i can't imagine not as bad, but even more horrific? how does that shape the way that the culture of policing or the

approach this investigation might change? >> i don't know that it changes the course of the investigation. i think we can anticipate that this video is going to be very graphic. clearly, the leadership of the memphis police department viewed that very quickly and the chief made a very prompt decision to remove those officers, which they have the power to do. that's the first course of action. second was to contact the district attorney, bring in the tennessee bureau of investigation. and then the parallel civil rights investigation. i can't see right now based on everything we've heard as it being a minimalist video. i think this is going to be very graphic. i think it's going to be disturbing. but i will say this. in dialogue with many in the major city chiefs, the major city chiefs are trying to reform policing. >> yeah. >> they're trying hard. and some of this, as the district attorney said, they have a new police chief there been there about 18 months. this is going to be something that they're going to have to change culture.

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the message coming through loud and clear in the senate today, don't mess with taylor swift fans. a top executive from livenation entertainment which owns ticketmaster in the senate judiciary committee hot seat over the company's disastrous handling of ticket sales back in november for swift's upcoming tour. now millions of her fans, millions were shut out, angering the pop star, not to mention the millions of fans. what does all this have to do with the senate? well, cnn's jason carroll explains. >> we apologize to the fans. we apologize to ms. swift. we need to do better, and we will do better. >> reporter: will an apology be enough to satisfy music fans looking for retribution and

lawmakers look for answers? >> you can't have too much consolidation. something that unfortunately for this country, as an ode to taylor swift, i will say we know all too well. >> reporter: ticketmaster's parent company livenation entertainment president and ceo grilled by lawmakers for hours, trying to determine if the company's influence is essentially a monopoly. one that critics say was created in 2010 when ticketmaster and livenation merged. >> we hear people say that ticketing markets are less competitive today than they were at the time of the live nation ticketmaster merger. that's simply not true. >> reporter: today senators on both sides of the aisle challenged that notion. >> i want to congratulate and thank you for an absolutely stunning achievement. you have brought together republicans and democrats in an absolutely unified cause.

>> reporter: senator richard blumenthal, one of several senators who borrowed lyrics from swift to make a point. >> may i suggest respectfully that ticketmaster ought to look in the mirror and say i'm the problem. it's me. ♪ i'm the problem, it's me ♪ >> reporter: today's hearing part of a fallout after the fiasco surrounding ticketmaster's handling of presale tickets to swift's upcoming tour. it was bungled so badly last november, it left scores of frustrated fans faced with technical issues such as canceled tickets, a crashing site, and an artist beside herself over what people endured to get her tickets. swift tweeted, it really pisses me off that a lot of them feel like they went through several bear attacks to get them. critics testify the swift fallout is the result of anti-competitive conduct from a company with too much power. ♪ i'm getting sick of the in between ♪ >> reporter: singer clyde lawrence testified about the problem of added ticket fees.

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getting swept up in the culture wars? for all you chocolate fans out there, it's m&m's, announcing it's replacing its spokes candies with comedian and actress maya rudolph. in a statement posted on twitter, the candy brand said, quote, in the last year we've made changes to our beloved spokes candies. we didn't think anyone would notice. we definitely didn't think it would break the internet. we have decided to take a pause from the spokes candies. telling cnn in a statement, the partnership with maya rudolph has been in the works for a while. they also went on to say, quote, there are lots of stories out there, but let me say conclusively that this decision isn't a reaction to two, but rather is in support of our m&ms brand. the original colorful cast of m&ms spokes candies are at present pursuing other personal passions. i couldn't get through the entire thing with a straight face, but it's actually what is going on right now.

and this is really what's happening. i want to bring in others to help with me here. that's karen finney and ramesh ponnuru. also richard levik is joining me. richard, you say this whole thing, the discussion about m&ms and what they're wearing, or what the colors are choosing, and the idea that people are attacking these spokescandies as somehow a proxy for larger culture wars, you say it's absurd, but, but the idea of pulling this back, the spokescandies was actually the right move. do you agree? >> well, first of all, i want to thank you for having me on such an important topic today. we're not going to be talking about russian tanks, obviously. instead we'll be talking about those poor candies. the shoes that they were wearing are no longer wearing. i think if you're asking the question how has mars handled this? brilliantly. think about this.

when is this happening? just weeks before the super bowl. and suddenly it's the apple 1984 advertisement all over again. everyone is going to be watching what mars does with their advertisements. the other thing i think that mars really understands brilliantly so is that their brand isn't chocolate. their brand is joy. and they responded to this sort of tongue-in-cheek, the dear john letter you referred to, some of the cute takeaway lines. they didn't go, other than that specific comment on twitter, they weren't responsive. they didn't dive in foolishly and try to make this a serious issue, and instead they stuck with their brand. >> on that point, you are a brand expert in marketing as well in these areas. i do wonder in terms of how this is being talked about. i mean, is this something that translates into people rallying around financially in sort of a strategic decision? >> no. in fact, what's really interesting here is you're

seeing as part of the culture war, you see on the left all the virtue signaling. and on the right, there is all this shaming going on, the attack. it's the outrage machine. and, you know, mars is very smart not to get involved in the political issue. there is no winning there. and for the right wing that's going after -- going after mars right now, the galena park doesn't have a platform. and so what they do is they keep feeding this outrage machine in the hope that people will get angry at companies. but it doesn't go anywhere. it's gas stoves now. it's burgers. it's nike, it's been apple, starbucks. but you don't see any negative financial ramifications. so i think that from other companies' points of view watches what mars does and how it lives its brand is really something critical to watch. and i think if you looked at other companies, imagine elon

musk trying tojoefl i jovially and successfully as mars has done here. >> for those on panel and set as well, those who are a, googling about m&ms right now, or you're salivating because there is chocolate on your screen and you're wondering why we're not talking about the joy, let me bring in karen and ramesh here. simple changes were made, okay? talking about the green m&m's go go boots became sneakers. first of all, i get it. heels hurt the whole arch system. then you have the idea of a purple m&m in honor of national women's day. the fact that this sent shockwaves, that these spokes candies are being looked at as problematic because the go go boots didn't join them joy. but the fact that that happened, karen, what does that mean to you that this is where we are? >> well, by the way, post pandemic, lots of women i know

aren't wearing heels anymore, they're wearing sneakers or tennis shoes. that's just real. that's in the culture. >> vice president harris on the cover of vogue in her converse all-stars. >> absolutely. you have to really scrape the bottom of the barrel to be going after candy for the outrage machine. that's really deep. purple happens to be my favorite color. i was very happy with the news of purple. but it is. it's ridiculous, and in some ways it shows how ridiculous this right wing outrage machine actually can be. on the other hand, i agree with richard. as a branding person myself, it's brilliant. your brand is joy. stay focused on your brand. and it is a brilliant campaign two weeks before the super bowl. >> well, that's why you wore the turpel tie, right, ramesh? in honor of this purple m&m? >> well, i'm afraid i have to con confess, i don't know anything about the purple m&m. i am basically unfamiliar with

this controversy, and glad to be, and kind of actively resent being informed of its existence. i will just say that i don't really like the idea of m&m having feet at all, let alone really whatever they're wearing on their feet. but i have to assume that the people who are affecting outrage are also doing it as part of a brand strategy and are perhaps not actually consumed with rage and psycho-social anxiety about their candy. >> i'm going get you a t-shirt that says "i actively resent information." and that's what we're going to wear the next time you're on the show. i love the fact that i never even thought about, karen, our love of m&ms, are we eating people? >> no, we're eating candy. stop. >> thank you. up next, everyone, the wild conspiracy theories that have popped up following damar

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well, buffalo bills quarterback josh allen is shooting down conspiracy theories about his teammate damar hamlin. first, people falsely claimed that his cardiac arrest was caused by the covid vaccine. and now conspiracy theorists are claiming hamlin wasn't even actually at the game on sunday, and what we saw on video was a body double.

here is the podcast kyle brandt's basement. >> there is people with really legitimate heavy followings saying the fix is in. that was not damar. his face was covered. he had sunglasses. he had a hat. when they went to him on cbs, you couldn't see him. there is this next level conspiracy that that is actually not damar hamlin at the game. they're saying. >> one, that's the demar swag. he likes wearing that. he was in the locker room with us. yes, that was damar. there is zero chance. he's damar hamlin. that's our guy. that's our brother. he was with us pregame, postgame. he was up in the sweet with his family, his little brother, 100%. so people need to stop this [ bleep ]. >> karen finney and ramesh ponnuru are back. cnn sports analyst christine brennan joins the conversation as well. christine, you and i were there that night talking about what was going on and watching

everything unfold. really, the world stopped watching and watched what is happening on monday night football. just three weeks ago, shocking to think that's where we are. but why are conspiracy theorists you think trying to exploit this opportunity? what is it? >> it's horrifying. and this young man almost died. and to think that the fact that he is in a football stadium, he is alive, he is okay, or is getting better. he is in a football stadium cheering on his team in the middle of a snowstorm, by the way, that somehow this becomes fodder, laura, for these people. it is horrendous. it's awful. i kind of hate we're even talking about it, but of course we have to talk about it, because it's an issue in our society. think of the things we could be doing not talking about this. all these people have to debunk these theories. and to prey on this particular man, arguably the biggest story of the year so far in terms of not politics, but in terms of culture and our society. and to turn this into someone's

ploy to get more followers, their lives aren't great. they want to make people feel miserable, i don't know. shame, shame, shame on all of them. >> and the brainpower being extended to use and theorize towards what could be solutions around preventing a number of things. and also, you see here, karen, there is a new conspiracy spreading on twitter. you probably have all seen this. it is a #has died suddenly. that's the hash tag, which is the sudden tragic deaths we've seen and they are falsely claiming that covid vaccines are responsible. and it happened when lisa marie presley died. it happened to sports journalist grant wahl who ramesh, i know you knew personally as well. why do you think this is happening? >> because in our culture, we have not set not just said shame on you, but we're actually going hold you accountable. the way, frankly, the parents, the -- not parkland, the sandy

hook shooting held alex jones accountable and said you will not do this, you will not have people chasing me down on the street screaming at me that my child didn't die. right? we have to take that kind of principled stand to say this is not acceptable. there are hundreds of thousands of americans who have died from covid because of conspiracy theories, because they were afraid of vaccines, because they wouldn't wear a mask. and it is a tragedy. and i think we have to recognize that it's not just a phenomenon on social media. this is disgusting, and it's not going stop if we don't stand up and say we're not going tolerate this, and we're going to go after the people who are purposing these conspiracy theories. >> christine, grant wahl's wife, dr. selene grounder had to come out and try to debunk in the midst of the grief, debunk something like this. >> she did. in fact, she said they hurried

the autopsy. they got his remains back as quickly as they could. the whole thing is so heartbreaking, from qatar. and she did an autopsy. of course she is a doctor and infectious disease specialist, and one of the great, karen, to your point, one of the great people over the last three years in this country on covid. they got the autopsy done as quickly as possible so she could put out there how he died, that it had nothing to do with the vaccine, nothing to do with covid. and i'm sure it infuriates you as well knowing them so well. but thank goodness for her to have the knowledge to get that done as quickly as possible. >> and it's infuriating also because it's not just the bad actors who are purerpetrating this, it's all of these gullible people who are buying it who say there are an awful lot of people dying suddenly. people die young. people die suddenly all the time. you're just noticing it now. what you're basically saying i sure have noticed a lot of people dying suddenly since i started noticing it.

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( ♪ ) well, impersonators are coming out of the woodworks, showing up on the late night comedy show, poking fun at one republican congressman, george santos, and of course his serial lying. and as the old saying goes, well, the jokes practically write themselves. take a look. >> congressman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me, steven. it's an honor to be back on your show. >> this is actually your first time here. >> not according to my imdb. it says i've been a guest five times, and i was also your band

leader, jon batiste. i'm just in town to pick up my nobel peace prize. >> congratulations. >> and a couple of nights at madison square garden. >> i didn't know you're playing msg. >> yes, i'll be playing all my famous songs. >> piano man, hey jude, happy birthday. >> you were just named to the house committee on science, space and technology. does that make sense to you? >> well, yeah, yeah. because i was the first openly gay jewish republican latino to walk on the moon. do you have a problem with that? >> that actor and n the jimmy kimmel sketch is nelson franklin, and guess what? he joins me now. it's good to see you. i have to say people are already talking about who's go to play him in a movie, and your name came up time and time again. what's it like having the, well, apparently the face of one controversial congressman these days? >> it's been a crazy thing, laura. thank you for having me, by the

way. you know, i got off twitter in early 2017, just sort of during the early trump presidency for my own mental health. i sort of missed a lot of those sort of viral tweets that were happening about me looking like this guy. but my friends and family sort of forwarded me the highlights. it's weird. it's very weird. that's the only word i can use to describe it. >> i can imagine what that's like. and good for you for trying to get off. they sucked you back. in that's how twitter works. you cannot escape it. you can't leave the family, everyone. >> i know. >> let's talk about your bit on kimmel, because frankly there is a lot of source material to choose from, and think about it. i wonder if it makes it easier for you to approach it and think about, look, i'm going to go way over the top, or i'm just going play this straight because there is enough there. >> look, i was pretty lucky i landed with kimmel there, because they gave me a wonderful sort of script. i had a huge amount of things to do. i was walking all around the hallways of congress.

i had so much business. and i love that, because i'm too busy to think about how nervous i am to be on late night show for the first time. but, you know, the source for this bit was all those crazy footage of him walking down hallways evading reporters and then doubling back and slipping. it's like you said. you can't write this stuff. it's unbelievable. i was trying to duplicate the sort of frantic rambling. this is what he would have said if he had opened his mouth during any of those times. >> and by the way, i should tell you he has tweeted about this. he has watched it all. and i'm going to read what he had to say. i have now been enshrined in late night tv history with all these impersonations, but they are all terrible so far. john lovitz is supposed to be one of the greatest comedians of all time. and that was embarrassing for him, not me. these comedians need to step their game up. first of all, he didn't talk about you in that tweet. but he wants you to step your game up. that's quite a challenge given what is ahead. >> oh my god. >> and future a man who has been

in veep. this feels like a satire, yet it's real life. >> yeah. you know, this is something that very trouble to the veep writing staff in the later seasons. they would have to change their scripps because the stuff to they thought was so crazy would actually happen in real life. they were getting outdone by how crazy reality was. look, it's fine. i'm just disappointed he wasn't more excited. i'm going to say if i was george santos, if that is really his name, and i was in his shoes and people were parroting me on tv and stuff, i would bedelighted . he has the stick to his guns and say everything is terrible. he is a gop candidate. >> i don't know that he wasn't delighted. it's a step your game up. and. >> make it funnier. >> well, there is this scene that you played on kimmel as well. you stepped your game up. here he is, you, or him.

>> you've been accused of lying about a lot of things. >> just name ten. >> okay, well, how about the pyramid scheme in florida you deny having any knowledge of. what about that? >> whoa, whoa, whoa. pyramid scheme is an offensive term, okay? my people actually built the pyramids when they were slaves. >> you also claim to be jewish, but there seems to be no evidence that you're jewish. there seems to be no evidence at all. wait a minute. that you're -- -- >> that's funny. it's funny. >> that's funny. why are you -- >> just looking at myself on tv, it's hard to watch sometimes. you know how it goes. >> actually, i like looking at myself on tv. in all honesty, though, first of all, you should know to take credit for the entire bit.

don't credit the writers. come on, kimmel who? it's all about you in this moment. are you planning on repricing this particular role? because it's funny. >> i would love to. i had such a wonderful time working with those guys. it was a really good time. i'm not sure if it's going to happen. but this guy can't stop cranking out the material. there might have to be a recurring bit there. >> something tells me there is still more to all these things. i wonder there are a number of impersonators now across the late night shows. i wonder if you are all in touch now and trying to outdo one another. >> no, no, no. i don't know jon lovitz. i'm a big fan of jon and harvey and what we do in the shadows. and john lovitz, he worked a critic line. these guys are legends. if i get to meet them all, consider myself lucky. >> well, i tell you, i don't think it's the end of the story, the end of the bit. there will be more to come.

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