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top of the hour this wrends morning. i'm jim scuitto. >> i'm erica hill. just a short time from now president biden expected to speak about support for ukraine. we'll bring you the remarks when it happens. official say they're finalizing plans to send dozens of abrams tanking to ukraine, and as germany now says it will send those highly coveted leopard 2 tanks to ukraine as well. this, of course, on the heels of weeks of ditchic public pressure, not to mention what's
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going on behind the scene. russia is respond to go this news. the russian ambassador to germany says berlin's move brings the conflict, quote, to a new level, as creme len spokesperson peskov says russia will destroy ukraine's tanks. natasha, is the u.s.'s view this is a game change r? >> in a way. they're not going to hit the ground immediately, it could take as many as three, four months for the ukrainians to even be trained on them, but what we are told is that this could potentially be game changing in terms of breaking through russia's defensive lines in ukraine.
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they want to take the fight directly to the russians so they can take back that territory versus striking them with longer-range equipment that the u.s. has given them. they're still asking for the extremely long-range missiles, but in terms of a grinding fight that allows them to break those russian lines, they say this could be game changing. the reason would you the u.s. has been pushing jerchy for weeks, if not months to give them the leopard tanks, the u.s. believes this could be very effective. what we are seeing today is a pretty dramatic departure from last week, but we're told this is the product of a lot of discussions between theist and germans to try to get to the same page. mj, what do we expect to hear from the white house later on. how is the white house
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responding, especially to this announcement from germany this morning? >> we should be hearing directly from the president himself. he's expected to give remarks on at noon at the white house. as natasha alluded to, this is a note at reversal of position we are seeing from the biden administration. you know, u.s. officials, including officials at the pentagon have been saying for a while that these tanks sore complicated, they are very difficult to training people to use them, not to mention the amount of time it would take to physically get these tanks over to ukraine. so you have to look at this in the context of what germany has been doing. german officials have made it clear for a while they would only be willing to send tanks if the u.s. was willing to send tanks. so it's an effort by the u.s. and the biden administration to
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spur germany to act, and now also other european country that is have access to these leopard 2 tank to say go ahead and send this capability to ukraine, obviously at a critical time. as we approach the one-year mark of russia's invasion of ukraine, it's important tounder score how sort of consistent president biden has tried to be and emphasizing the u.s. is not interested in making any large, unilateral decisions. at every step of the way, it's important for the biden administration to work in conjunction with the alliance that already exists of countries that support ukraine. i also think natasha made a really good point about how this shows that the u.s. is continuing to make a long-term investment. again, getting this equipment to ukraine is going to take so much time. that also just gives you a sense of the mindset of u.s. officials as they look ahead to this war and how it's going to progress
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mountain months ahead. >> it's a good point that it does take time. natasha and mj, thank you both so very much. back in the u.s., parts of the southeastern usa bracing for more severe weather after severe storms hit parts of texas and louisiana yesterday. more than a dozen tornadoes were reported. they rattled the south, ripping apart homes and businesses. >> it is pictures are something. thankfully at this hour, no reports of any deaths. emergency officials, though, it is important to point out, are still assessing the damage which, in many areas is being called catastrophic. >> the house is gone. the whole top section of the house is completely ruined. the house will be torn down now. kind of hard to take, but we're alive. that's the main thing. >> we all went to the rest room and saw the whole building fall.
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luckily the rest rooms did not fall. that was the only thing that kept us alive. >> joining us is the police chief of berger, texas. the last gentleman we heard from, luckily the rest room was okay. so thank goodness, you know, people followed their training, they got somewhere inside. give us a sense this morning. the pictures tell us one thing, what are you finding on the ground and what are you hearing from other emergency responders? >> there's just devastate. a wide swath of our city has been taken out, and one officer told me, it looks like something you would see in ukraine. some houses are exploded. it's a miracle nobody was killed or even seriously injured at this point. >> chief bruger, i hear you on this scenes.
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it feels limb like apocalyptic film. no deaths reported so far. i would have to imagine from your perspective that's remarkable, a sense of relief. how did the community manage? >> you know, i think honestly the blessing in it all was probably the time of day. you said people, kids still at school, folks still at work, and so, you know, luckily it does go through an area with some schools. they suffered some minor damages with the kids inside, but, you know, there is no major damages to the schools. just businesses and houses in the area. >> we spoke last hour with the mayor of deer park, power a major issue there, understandably. what is the power situation in pasadena at this hour? >> we still have 14,000 residents without power, and i'm told it could be days at this point. it's not just poles that are
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down. i'm hearing some of the transfer stations were -- suffered severe damage. before they can even deal with the power lines and the poles, they've got to get the stations back up on line, which is take time. >> sadly we see a lot of stories like this, and folks pay attention the day it happens, perhaps the days after, and then weeks, months later, that's how long it often takes to rebuild. do you have a sense of how long it's going to be before you get things back to normal there? >> i think it would be months at this point. you know, you have a city facility was damaged. our animal shelter, tragic in itself, but none of the animals were actually hurt. people are willing to step up and help. i always say out of tragedy comes, you know, you see the good in humanity. i think that's what you'll see in the community as we start to rebuild. >> well, chief josh bruegger, we
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appreciate you joining us. you have a lot to handle, and we wish you and all the community the best of luck. >> thanks for having me. let's go to meteorologist chad myers with what we can expect going forward through the day. is more of this coming as this moves east? >> a little bit, but i don't think we'll see the big storms like they saw in texas yesterday. this was ef-2, ef-3, i'm talking this was a long track, probably on the ground ten miles. i don't see that today. there will be storm that rotate off the gulf of mexico. and also up into parts of georgia and the carolinas. this is where the weather is right now. it's because this is where the humidity is at this point, interacting with the cold front that's going to make the showers and thunderstorms.
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why is it a cold front? because there's snow behind it. the low, the cold, the warm, and it always happens like this. it always looks -- looks like a comma. the snow earlier in chicago and cleveland, very heavy snow coming down today. these big bands will work their way up to toledo, and finally dying off for tomorrow, not really get to the northeast, get to new england, but not to new york. we thought new york might have some flurries coming in. now 36, 37, or more likely a rain or mist event. this is where the weather was yesterday. all of these tornadoes, and all of these areas of wind damage, where were they? right along the gulf coast. why? because the gulf of mexico gave its humidity, gave its moisture to that front. that's where the interaction between the cold, the dry and
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the very warm and humid, that's why all these storms are almost in a straight line right there along the gulf coast. >> chad, when we talk about the tornadoes, you were mentioning the one in texas was on the ground for at least ten miles, another i think on the ground for at least 50 miles. they seem to be more intense. is that the case? >> this year, yes, absolutely. we are in a pattern d. and we're still in la nina, though we're trying to get to neutral and maybe el nino by the end of summer. we're in a pattern that brings the storms down, on up toward the northeast. for much of january, we had all of this jet stream activity right over california. that's not really what's happening right now, but in the latest few years, it seems the tornadic activity has shifted to the east. why is that? it's because of this, the gulf of mexico. it's because the drought out west doesn't give up its
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humidity for the tornadoes in tornado alley. it's more humid, more volatile to the east. we should have 36 tornadoes in january. that is the normal number. human? 159. >> wow. >> four times more than we should be getting this time of year. the tornadoes are in many of the states from texas all the way to florida, even one in california, but back up here into mississippi, alabama, that's been the bull's-eye for this. this is where the tornadoes have been so far this year. all of this from the deep south, gulf coast, tornado alley here, hoosier alley centered over indianapolis, and carolina alley, why? it's where the jet stream is placed. it maybe a swoop through the south alley. when it happens in hoosier
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alley, it looks like this, when it happens in the carolina alley, it looks like just like this. tornado alley will look just like this. it's the trough and the churning of the energy. this so far is where the tornadoes have been. >> wow. >> those numbers for january, just off the charts. thank you, chad. still to come here, with classified documents found at mike pence's home in indiana, president biden and donald trump may be breathing a little easier today. how could the discovery impact the investigations? we're going to dig in. plus he cleared a background check. the suspect accused of killing people in half moon bay, had an interact a decade acwhere the judge banned him from owning a gun. and a change of curriculum
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this first on cnn, the fbi and justice department's national security division have now launched a review to see how about a dozens classified documents ended up in former vice president mike pence's home, pictured there in indiana. a lawyer for pence found the documents last week, turned them over to the fbi, the former vp's brother, greg pence, sis his brother would not have knowingly taken documents. >> what in the hell is going on?
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>> you tell me. i have no idea. he said he didn't, he didn't. my brother is very honest. >> pence joins president biden and, of course, former president trump, both under scrutiny for their handling of classified documents. >> clearly a process is broken. we've got to take a hard look at gsa, how they and the intelligence community pack these documents, get them to wherever the president and vice president is going. >> joining us to discuss is errol louis. there has been discussion for some time whether documents are over-classified, where things need to change. how much does everything we've seen with the former vice president, former president and current president, does that
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actually push us to action, errol? >> one of the most frustrating part is we don't know what the documents really entail, whether or not they're seriously secret documents that have to be kept under lock and key, or whether they were classified because we have a system that classifies last of things fairly automatically. theres a need to get to the bottom of it. of course, because we can't see the documents, we can't make that judgment. you know who can? the congress. they really badly need to do some investigation and some legislation to make sure this doesn't keep happening. it's hard to believe so many high officials -- while at this point two former vice presidents and a sitting president, have just willingly, knowingly, maliciously done this time and time after time. i think it's much more likely that people are making mistakes accidentally. the role of the national archives in all of this needs to be clarified. when they makes a request for
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documents, it might need some teeth in it. this all cries out for great investigation, and hopefully that will result from this confusion. >> the over-classification is a relevant one, but that would be less relevant when you're talking about special programs, access, et cetera, at least relates to the documents that were found in trump's house. doug heye, should all at least of those men -- trump, biden and pence -- be looking at each other with some sort of comfort in numbers, right? as opposed to the likelihood of legal consequences. >> certainly we think it could increase. does jimmy carter have? what did dick cheney have in wyoming? there's a likelihood that you knowingly or unknowingly have documents that have been placed as classified. this is why, you know, so on
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which, especially in the past couple weeks as congress changes over, we focus to the overhight, the hearings. reform is really important. this is where congress needs to step in to make sure there's a blanket policy that everybody is following. then we'll have to determine who committed the sins of omission and who in one case, down in florida, trying to hoard documents that they're not supposed to keep. >> a source familiar with the archives tells cnn that former president carter says his doesn't remember n. dan quayle says everything was turned over. source familiar with dick cheney said he turned everything over, and former presidents clinton, bush and obama said they turned everything over and errol, they say that all three of those
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former presidents had the exact same assessment of what would be happening or not happening moving forward. how much do you think there was coordination between the three former presidents and their statements? >> we know that they talk. there's a good possibility that they might in fact have exchanged messages, but it makes sense. i visited former president clinton at his presidential library. it's not just a room with a lot of papers in it. it's a big organization with a big stash, and fairly substantial budget. and an ability to take a lot of information and do with it what needs to be done. i take them at their we if they say that they unbefored themselves and turned over to the very large presidential library staff the task of sorting out what documents need to go where. that's just the prudent thing to do. also a way to declutter one's life. >> we should note that former vice president pencils said, prior to this discovery that his
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staff had reviewed all the materials and found nothing. how confident can you be in that judgment? another topic, doug heya, congressman guy man gallego is challenge kyrsten sinema. the question is, do you split the democratic vote? are republicans looking at arizona, thinking they have a chance? >> it is honest answer is it depends. it depends on who the candidate is. mitch mcconnell warned last year that we have a candidate quality program. arizona is ground zero of that, where kari lake basically threw away a campaign. so we have a situation where republicans could throw it away again. democrats are trying to really be coy right now, gosh, will they support gallego, what about sinema? republicans are poised to throw this away, again, as we've seen
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in state after state, which is why mcconnell is right to warn, pick your candidates wisely. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> thanks. any moment now, the u.s. attorney overseeing the city of memphis will hold a news comps about the investigation into the death of tyre nichols. he was pulled over for a traffic stop, and after he fled, they allegedly beat him. we'll have those comments live, as soon as they begin. what the buck? need money? file your taxes today at jackson hewitt. you could t up to 3,500 bucks the same day with a no fee refund advance loan. buck yeah. file your taxes today jackson hewitt.
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the man suspected of killing seven people in that mass shooting in half moon bay, california, will appear in court this afternoon. police say 66-year-old chunli zhao deliberately targeted current other former co-workers at two mushroom farms. >> cnn has obtained records of his test depail violent incident. veronica miracle joins us with more. what did we learn? >> reporter: jim and erica, it appears due to court records, this is not the first time there's been violence in zhao's
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past. according to a temporary restraining order, he tried to suffocate and threatened to murder another former co-worker at another job. this all happened in 2013. zhao was subjected to a temporary restraining order after a former co-worker and former roommate accused him of attacking him and threatening him, and the restraining order forbid him to be near the roommate, but also banned him and barred him from own or being able to buy a gun. that temp rather restraining order went away in july of 2013. zhao here expected in cord at 1:30 pacific time. it will be his first court appearance since being accused of murdering seven people and critically injuring another person at two separate locations in half moon bay, one of those locations where he lived and worked, the mountain mushroom
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farm in half moon bay. yesterday governor newsom spent time in the community, meeting with victims, meeting with the community members deeply impacted by this. and to be quite honest with you, jim and erica, he was tired, exhausted, and incredibly emotional from my conversation with him, but -- all right, we are going to go live to memphis, tennessee, where the u.s. attorney is speaking about the investigation into the death of tyre nichols. >> last week, we announced that the united states had opened a federal civil rights investigation into the circumstances leading to the tragic death of tyre nichols. earlier this week, i had the privilege of meeting with mr. nichols' mother, father,
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grandmother and aunt. i had the privilege of hearing from them about tyre, a man who enjoyed skateboarding starbucks, and sunsets at the park. i would like to share what i told his family. i said that the department of justice cares deeply about potential violations of constitutional rights here in memphis. i want we have opened a criminal civil rights investigation. i told them this federal civil rights investigation will be thorough, it will be methodical, and it will continue until we gather all the relevant facts. as with any other federal investigation, we will go where those facts take us. i delivered that message to them. i want this community to hear that message as well. as i told mr. nichols' family,
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our federal investigation may take some time. these things often do. we will be diligent and we will make decisions based on the facts and the law. my office is working hand in hand with the civil rights division in washington, as well as the fbi and other law enforcement partners. our team includes very experienced federal prosecutors from our office here in memphis. it includes very experienced fbi agents from the fbi memphis field office, and it includes a very experienced attorney from the civil rights division. we have been in constant, very constructive communication with the shelby county district attorney as well as state and local law enforcement agencies about this case. i'm thankful for that, and i expect that will continue.
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finally, i know there is significant public interest in the release of the video that was shown to mr. nichols' family. the state and local authorities have responsibility for determining when to release video from this incident to the public, but i will say on behalf of the federal authorities, we want people to express their right to be heard, but we want them to do so in a peaceful and nonviolent way. i'll close by saying that i grew up in this city. i care deeply about this city. i want this city to be a place where justice is done. the united states is committed to following it is facts and the law, guided by principles of justice every step of the way. thank you for your time this morning. >> reporter: sir, just one yes.
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why with this important for you to do today? can you just answer one question? >> i just heard -- >> go ahead, erica. >> very happy to have you here, areba martin. we heard our colleague shimon prokupecz there at the end why was it important to come out today? he did not answer the question. what is your sense, though, of why it was important to make this statement? >> my sense, erica, after talking to people actually who live in memphis is that city is on edge, and that citizens of that city have been demanding of release from the body cam, from the officers, appeared they've been demanding justice. they want to see them indicted and held accountable.
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we have not been able to look at the video camera, though we know the lawyers representing the family have said what's on those body cams is horrific. they say it's worse than what we saw in the 1992 beating of rodney king by los angeles police officers. so i think the u.s. attorney felt a need to say something to this community, because there's been so much attention. >> areva martin, does the race of the officers involved matter in a investigation like this? >> i don't think it's the race of the officers. it's the race of the victim. it's the fact that the victim is african american. we know all too often that african american men, unarmed, die from routine police stops. this appears to be a routine traffic stop where apparently he
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tried to return from police, five officers. that's the big question. why was there five officers? i think we have to stay focused on the fact that young, black, unarmed men often find themselves brutalized or murder by simple encounters. >> shimon, we heard very clearly from tyre nichols' stepfared, his was not running because he had anything to hide. he was running because he was scared. any further update on when that video could be released? >> it's any day now, erica. it definitely feel -- i've only been here on the ground since last night. you definitely could sense things are developing here pretty rapidly.
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to have the u.s. attorney come out and make a statement like this is pretty significant. it tells you also how concerned they are, officials in washington, d.c., local officials, the police here, are concerned over what might happen once the video is released. when you listen to the u.s. attorney's statement, he said that. he said they are talking to the community here, that he loves this city, he grew up in this city, and also telling them, look, we're going to keep pushing, investigating. we're here, we're investigating this. this is going to be thorough. they realize they have a difficult situation on their hands and that this video at some point is going to be made public, and there's a lot of concern over how the community and the public is going to react to what, by all accounts, is just horrific, horrific video, showing a senseless beating of a
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man at the hands of police. that's going to be very significant. it seems that things here are developing rapidly, and that perhaps we will have word on this in the next two days. the other thing that i think is certainly significant is that we really haven't heard a lot of details from officials on what exactly happened. we know five officers were fired in the memphis police department, the police department moving quickly to fire these officers. that's certainly very significance based on what they saw, but really the nuance, the important detail. police have refused to answer some of the most basic questions. there's still a lot, obviously that we don't know, but i have to tell you, listening to the u.s. attorney come out like this, you can tell that there was concern. look, last week they issued a paper statement, saying they were launching this federal criminal civil rights investigation, but the fact that the u.s. attorney came before the cameras to speak to this
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community is certainly significant. >> cnn's nick valencia just spoke with the family attorney, ben crump. i wonder what his response was to you? >> reporter: what the u.s. attorney just said here, kevin ritz, reiterated what he told the family this week when they met. i asked mr. trump, you know, what's the family's focus? they said their focus is justice, but they're also adamant they want the video released in the next two weeks. they were assured the video would be released, and they believe this will have a significant impact. i did ask them, it sounds like the u.s. attorney and other officials are bracing for this to be a really, you know, awful video. they're worried, it seems like, of the reaction of the public. mr. crump did not want to speak to that, but he said the familially focus is getting justice for tyre nichols.
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they have characterized the video as violent, savaged, and he was used as a human pinata for the three minute these saw officers beat him. they did say at some point you could hear nichols say, what did i do? again, the family is focused on trying to get justice for nichols, but they are adamant they want this video released within the next two weeks. we are leaning on the district attorney's office, asking them, what's the holdup? the family has seen the video. we're waiting for it to be released, as shimon said, this could be any day now, but we don't have a specific time. >> reporter: if i can, i wanted to make one point here. it seems the d.a. is waiting on the decision about charges, whether or not these officers are going to face charges before he releases this video. i think part of that is because they want to show, before they
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release this video, that they have taken some kind of significant action. there is a lot of concern -- and i've covered several of these stories, but effort not seen concern like this over how a community will react in quite some time. it seems that everything the authorities are doing, they're trying to tell the communities, we are taking action, we are doing things, so just be prepared and know we are going to take action. i think that's what we're waiting for here. for the d.a. to certainly make that decision. in listening to ben crump talk and family talk, they certainly expect charges. crump met with the d.a. a few days ago, so all of this points to some significant action perhaps here from the d.a. in the coming days. >> we'll be watching that. shimon, nick, areva, thank you all. the fulton county d.a. in georgia says decisions are imminent in the possibility
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indictments. with me now, michael zeldin, former prosecutor. that's not the special grand jury's decision on indictments. willis will then have to, i understand it, go to a regular lay impaneled grand jury before any indictment decision. what is the timeline for such a decision? >> whatever willis wants it to be. however, generally speaking, they issue the report. the prosecutors have been working with the grand jury on this report, probably are drafting indictments if not already have been done so, and i would think quickly going to the regular grand jury, present the evidence and the indictments and the defendants that they want to indict, and then i think, jim, we'll get an answer to that question very quickly. >> now, you have noted that more than one person could face indictments, ranging from the former president trump himself, but also to his lawyer, rudy
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giuliani, fake electors. is there anyone among that group from what you have seen that are most likely to be indicted? >> it's a agrees question. it's based on fanny willis' evidence. we think anyone involved in the establishment of that scheme, i think, are in the cross hairs here. where they go up higher to eastman, giuliani, trump himself, really depends on her appetite for taking on a case with all sorts of complications, attorney/client, first amendment rights, and we could end up disappointed, if you will, in a low-level indictment, or we could be interested to see he takes this all the way up to
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eastman, perhaps even trump. >> now, of course, there's a pending decision on whether the judge releases the report from the special grand jury. i should note news organizations are arguing there's public interest in knowing this. you, as a lawyer, argue that could damage a case. >> in a case like this, you want to keep pretrial publicity as limited as you can. it affects things like venue u. where will the trial take place? if there's too much publicity in fulton county, the lawyer will try to move it. you don't want indicted co-conspirators smeared by the report. if they're named in the report, but not indicted, they have no way the protecting their reputation, and we just want this case to proceed without any
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possible interference with the early release of a report where there's no need to. i understand that news organizations want it, but i just don't see the imminent need for the release. michael zeldin, also good to hear your point of view. thanks for joining me. >> thank you, jim. chatgpt forcing professors to rethink how they teach classes. we'll speak with one of them, next. of up to $26,000 per employeeee, even if it received ppp, and all it takes is eight minutes to get started. then we'll work with you to fill out your forms and submit the application; ththat easy. and if your business doesn't get paid, we don't get paid. getrefunds.com has helped businesses like yours claim over $2 billion but it's only available for a limited time. go to getrefunds.com, powered by innovation refunds.
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chatgpt allows users to type in anything they need. we tried a 2,000-word essay on climate change. >> the website spit out this, a 2,000-word essay. our next guest has lives seen it come across his desk. great to have you with us. this has only been out a couple months, so the fact that it's this new and already shown up in one of your classes, what was the giveaway for you the paper was not written by a student? >> yeah, it showed up even at the end of last semester. right away when it came out. the giveaway the essay was just a bit too good. the grammar was perfect, the structure was impeccable. the ideas were insightful. it was kind of better from what
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i expect for most of my students. >> i have to ask you, you made a smart judgment call, but is there any way to reliably spot this? do you know for sure? >> i'll tell you what i did, and why that's not going to work going forward. what i did. i took the student's essay and actually submitted it to chatgpt myself, and i asked, did you write this? and it said it was a 99.9% chance i did this. i'm worried that won't work goods forward. there's detectors, and you have to do is insert grammatical errors, i hate to say that because i'm telling students how to cheat, but that's how you circumvent it.
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>> the reality is, of course, you're not always on the school wi-fi, you're going home, so do you see any real tangible effort that could be made by school districts, by universities to get ahead of this? >> yeah. so there's three big things that, at least at the university or college level people are trying to do. the first thing is just to shift to oral exams, where students can't use their phones or computers. >> wow. >> yeah. >> the problem with that, although it sounds appealing, it won't work in huge classes. the second thing that people are doing is going having students go back to pencil and paper. the problem with that is that it doesn't make sense in a generation where we haven't trained students to write by hasn't. they can only write by hand in a messy and slow way. the chat is only chained on stuff up to 2021, so it doesn't
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have a lot to say on stuff that's been written since then, but good luck trying to do so that in a class on plato and aristotle. >> i don't mean to be flip, because it raises serious questions for you. let's keep up the conversation. antony aumann, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> i love my children dearly, but i wouldn't wish their handwriting on anyone. thanks for joining us today. >> i can't handwrite either. "at this hour with indcase boldn