good evening, we begin tonight with explosive new reporting on cnn was first to bringing. the discovery of documents of classified markings that mike pence is in the at home tonight of what you joins me now at the very latest. what you learned, jamie? anderson, according to multiple sources, we have learned that among those roughly 12 classified documents that were found at the pence home, materials described as background briefing memos were told that some of the classified documents would prepare pence for foreign meetings and actually may have been overlooked during the packing process. because they were found tucked into old binders, interspersed with other papers. perhaps they would not have been visible, unless the pack

actually went through these binders page by page. just for context, it's not unusual for presidents and vice presidents to be given these travel briefing binders. that include background memos on people there leaving with in foreign countries, our sources say, sometimes, they just include basic biographical information on foreign leaders. . government officials. sometimes, they also include more sensitive information. >> our colleague, evan perez, says that the fbi is working with the excess with it. it is potential risks, and let's remember, these papers were not in a secure location. they were in the pence private home. according to one since that was briefed on this classified documents. it is nothing, particularly, unusual in the paper's. they described the

classification markings, which are for some of the documents, as on the, quote, lower level. the source also said, there was no mention of a sihai, or s cp markings. those are two of the designations of the most sensitive, classified, top secret information. that said, anderson, we need to wait until the fbi finishes its assessment. >> also, there's new reporting for the national archives? >> really, they've been able to confirm, the archives is looking into sending a letter to all living, former presidents, vice presidents, and asking to go back through the records, and triple check that there are no classified documents. even though we have been told, by all of them, is after trump, biden, and now pence, the parkas clearly wants him to check one more time anderson .

>> thank you. ukraine, with commitment to the u.s. and nato allies, after months of asking, and weeks of wrangling within the western alliance, ukraine will be getting battle tanks including frontline leopard 2s from germany, and 31 m1s. enough to equip battalion, from the united states. >> ukrainians are fighting an age-old battle of aggression, and domination. it's a battle that americans have fought proudly, time and again. it is a battle we will make sure that ukrainians are well equipped to fight as well. >> in a moment, we will talk to nato spring ally commander, wesley clark, on how he sees the battlefield impact of those tanks. also, russian scholar, jill doherty, on where moscow, in germany's decision is being declared to not see germany's invasion of this in the second world war by

the nazis. more from on what ukraine is doing, quickly. what do we know about the tanks that the united states has committed? >> they painted this was a sign of unity, and it is now sending in tanks with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy faces these tanks. it is a major, significant, commitment. it is a direct offensive up in that the u.s., in the west, and provided. not the himars, or the howitzers, firing at the front line from a distance. instead, tanks are designed for face to face, on the battlefield confrontation with russian forces. that is exactly what ukraine will be. it is expected to the german made tanks in the u.s. tanks, and it is with naked ukraine with the power, and the weapons, and the systems and despite the russians scenario talking on defensive lines. >> but you

know how long it would expect before the tanks, and the american tanks, appear on the battlefield? >> it will take time. we're not talking weeks, we're talking about months, perhaps, even many months. so, that's because the u.s. needs to prepare the tanks, and although there is no m1 abrams tanks to right now, it is having to refurbish those, prepped them, and update them, for what they needed. it is a process that takes a long time. the white house said, they may start trading on abrams stakes sooner, that once the tanks are ready, abrams can employ them immediately, on the battlefield. >> are there other new actions that the pentagon is taking that would indicate the u.s. is prepared to support the war for years, or months to come? >> we have seen a number of different actions suggesting

this, and supporting this. the u.s. is in this for the long term, as, of course, is ukraine. some of the systems mentioned will take years to arrive. the air defense systems are contracted for a few years. patriot training takes months. these are long term commitments. on top of that, the u.s. has said the kremlin from the army accusations chief there going, to try and produce more and more that one of the supply ukraine for the fight, but restock american supplies, on the supplies of its allies. the army acquisition chief said, this looks to him like the largest ramp up in production going back to, perhaps, korea. so, this signifies how much the u.s. is involved in this, making sure that they stay in the fight, and stays equipped in the fight. anderson? >> oren liebermann, appreciate it. let's go to cnn's phil mattingly, at the white house, for more on the decision of getting germany on board. it's a big change is their will and provide ukraine for the war and, with what button was wanting to deliver with that. with the direct knowledge, behind the scenes of the last several weeks, they appointed several times the number or the, president, pointed to the durability of the driving force

behind that policy shift, behind that decision, to deliver those u.s. tanks at all. something that u.s. military had not recommended, something that and i. c. e. officials here at the white house are very wary of doing. they didn't believe it was the best use of capabilities, in terms of the battlefield dynamics that are currently in play. but, it really gets at the central driving force behind how president biden has viewed this war, throughout the 11 months it has been ongoing. and, also, in the months before then, and it was with reasons, and predictions, and they're up to this accountant this point. they're saying this isn't one weapon system, or capability. it is about maintaining the unity vowing forward. this war, keeping unity, keep in the coalition together, is far and away buttons driving force. >> here's an exchange between reporter, and the president, following his remarks. >> why are you taking this decision now? germany force you to change your mind on sending tanks? >> germany didn't force

me to change my mind. we just want to make sure that we were all together. that is what we were doing all along, and what we are doing right now. >> what we know about the discussion to the united states, and germany, when the decision was made? obviously, there was a lot of back and forth. >> a significant amount. it was a view with the german position, and with some degree. it is saying that they aren't entirely accurate that this entity in the negotiation and, they drove to the u.s. decision-making here, it is to talk here when you're looking at these issues, that is in the last couple of weeks. it is president biden's approach here, and when germany signed off on sending a patriot missile system to ukraine, it was notable that it was an announcement that was made with the white house, andrew chancellor scholz, and president biden. they're also detailing with the commitment with the same exact time. it is specific to specifically it is showing these commitments. it is showing they're important

for the domestic political decisions, and important for how chancellor scholz was viewed, back home. president biden, saying that the official component would be essential to how they're operating with these counterparts across this coalition in, the last several months. >> phil mattingly, appreciate it. for more battlefield difference, on how the russians are already reacting and the nato supreme commander, and retired general, jeffrey clark, cnn military analyst, cnn's sam kiley, in kyiv, with the reaction there. and, cnn contributor, russian scholar, and global follower at the woodrow wilson center. you've heard reporting from the white house, and the pentagon. what are the numbers of tanks that are being sent to ukraine, both from the u.s., and from germany? is it perhaps from other allied countries? is it enough for ukraine to repel a new russian offensive if it happened ? >> i don't think that

most of those attacks will be there when the russian offense happens. certainly, they won't be, and probably the majority of the leopards won't be there. that is the problem. they need other weapons. the tanks are a great statement it's, a great statement to political unity for nato, but there is no urgency there and getting the tanks right now. i think there should be, and but there doesn't seem to be. they're going to be the heart of three or four combat brigades, and will warm up during the summer. they will be going after, maybe, zaporizhzhia, more news to block some russian offensive in the summertime. it's going to take for, months five months, for the armored vehicles to go with the tanks, and with the additional ammunition to go with the circle. the near term

problem is the russian offensive. >> what is the response from the ukrainians? >> it is one of delight. it is a delight, put into some context. as they were saying, there with rest mcauliffe, the defense minister, trying to tell christiane amanpour earlier today, while there were air raid sirens in that interview, that they have a wider shopping list of what they really needed. they needed 3 to 400 tanks, they said, they want to fighter, jets fighter bombers, and they lead above on during the ongoing drone attacks from russia. they are delighted because these battlefield replacements, effectively, is partly, replacing tanks that they have already lost in this. it is maintaining this an issue dave. this is from reznikov, the defense minister said. >> we

will use them, also, as a iron fist to break through the defense line of our enemy. we need to make our, continue our, counter offensive campaign in a different direction. >> this campaign from the ukrainians is all about maneuvering, all about momentum, you will recall. they liberated large areas from around kharkiv, earlier on in the summer, then in the fall, they were able to liberate kherson province. they are now running into the sand, or rather, the mud, that is now bitter transport fare, particularly in the, east anderson. this is help by the ukrainians from this nato commitment, and is getting back to that maneuver capability, to get that momentum going. but, they do desperately need the media resupply. it is that which will, really be, dependent over the next near future. >> the russian embassy

in berlin is calling it extremely dangerous. the sale takes a two new level of confrontation. any actual response beyond rhetorical response, you expect? >> i don't think so. what can they do at this point? the report is important, especially the german tanks, because they really strike a nerve with russia. you can see some of the reaction, and the president spokes person peskov is saying those tanks is burning just like every other tank. then, you also have warnings about nuclear war. they are pulling out all the stops. the reason it is so sensitive is because the soviet union's victory over the nazis in world war ii is a seminal part of the ideology of vladimir putin. he has brought this back, it is being taught in every school, it is being pumped up in propaganda, every hour. the bravery, the heroism, with a direct connotation for

the war against ukraine. so, it's very striking. >> german, kharkiv are saying, the tanks cannot get there in time if there is an offensive in the next couple of months. what can be done, then, to prepare for that offensive? are ukrainians ready for that? >> more artillery, more artillery ammunition. some former fighting vehicles, and even 20 tanks can get there, and it is going with it. it is handling a counter fire battle of artillery. it is one of the most important things. so, it will be great to get more aircraft, and to get more munitions and it's a 600 drone and is being held up by the department of the army. it is getting at least 100 of those in, and is covering the missiles that you can strike behind the lines. you can break up the momentum of any russian offensive. that is what we are looking at, and the

administration just hasn't been with it, and they want to respond to the battlefield and anticipated. they want to ukraine to be with it, and a risk of heightening, and nuclear report with escalation by russia. it is having to be on the battlefield, and is being able to provide. >> it seems that the military has been available for what reason? >> these switchblades, 600 drones require extended use monitoring as part of the law that goes with selling equipment like this abroad. so is the stinger under this. but, we sold those stingers, they are all reported, everybody

knows exactly what happens to the stingers. it is going to go with it. it is going to go with these administrations, and is a complicated situation, and they say that is a drone to attack the russian command post, with ammo depots, and has been moved back beyond high mar range. it is really attacking into russia, and that would be a condition here out. that is a condition is getting the system in. if they ask for it, go with it. >> it's lateral putin's propaganda working? our russian citizens continuing to rally behind this war? >> that is hard to figure

out. the indications are, they're having the majority through, and it uses world war ii, and not to germany. but, it really goes to the heart and is a reason for the country to go into. if they're weaponizing history, and it can be effective. it is during world war ii, and it is with 20 million people. it is going to go with a few people going with it. >> sam kiley, appreciate it. coming up next, breaking news, with the decision to

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parent company joined twitter in reversing course. to give you some idea of what might be in store. the former president today posed today apparently unprovoked personal attacks on his former top covid adviser on his own social media site. quoting now. one of the greatest privileges i had as president was firing deborah birx. the only thing that she had going was nice scarves. joining us now the latest on facebook and instagram. donie o'sullivan and sarah matthews. to be press secretary from the previous administration. what was behind this decision? >> two years, ago they kick trump off their platforms which of course also includes instagram. it was because they said that there was a chance of further harm. for the incitement to violence. they determined this week that this risk in facebook view that it has sufficiently receded. nick clegg, the former deputy prime minister of the united kingdom who is now a president of facebook was involved in making this decision. here's what he had to say. >> he was suspended for two years from using facebook and

instagram and that to your clock expires now. this month. and so, we are confirming that if he wants to, he can in the coming weeks use facebook and instagram again. i mean of course there are guardrails. there are rules. he has got to play by the rules. and we are announcing some additional ones today to encourage him to stick to the rules. >> look, as you've pointed out, the challenge is going to be that trump continues to push lies about the 2020 election. interestingly, my colleague confirmed with a spikes looks spokesperson tonight that the wheels trump will have to obey or that he is allowed to attack the 2020 election. but not allowed to attack the 2024 election. i mean by continuing to attack the 2020 election, you are undermining integrity in elections here. empathy lewis. >> as somebody who was so appalled by the former presidents actions on january 6th, i wonder what your

reaction is. it was that he is back? >> i don't believe it's a wise decision that he's back. sure, there is an argument to be made of how long you could ban him. and i think that it's good they say they are putting guardrails in place. but i think that the guardrails are not strong enough. i think that trump is going to violate these rules and get up and pretty quickly. as he is reinstated. some of the guardrails are that he can not be legitimized and outgoing election. his own place on truth social -- screen lies about the 2020 election. so who is to stop him from wanting to undermine the results in the 2024 election. and i think that another one of the guardrails being put in places that he can't post anything about qanon. we've seen him post a qanon openly embracing them on his truth social platform. so i think that it is only a matter of time before he violates the rules and gets banned again. >> he has flirted with qanon,

been photographed with qanon folks at mar-a-lago. i don't know if he is actually come out and said i love qanon. has he? >> all but that essentially. >> retweeting a graphic of him. >> all the time. we repeatedly see on truth social where there are a lot of qanon accounts. he is consistently retweeting or re-posting accounts that if you look at them, they are pro qanon. i will mention one thing. taking a step back from this. at the time when trump did get suspended. a lot of people here in the u.s. thought that the door was the right decision. but leaders around the world, including angela merkel at the time, a great fan of trump, could say look, is this the right thing? that company should be able to take a than sitting president of a platform like this. this will come down to republicans, democrats. when terms of whether this was the white right decision around. i think notably tonight, the

aclu, which pointed out it has many issues with trump and has had in the past, they said that this is the right call. like it or, not president trump is one of the leading political figures and the public has a strong interest in hearing his speech. >> do you think his social media influence has been degraded by not only the bands but his own relentless stream of grievance? which some people do ultimately get sick of. >> i do think that his influence clearly has been put under stress. not having access to these platforms such as facebook, instagram and twitter. it is not like many people are on truth social. so his posts there do not pack the same punch they once did. but i do think that him being able to rejoin these platforms once his exclusivity contract with his own truth social is up, which i believe is this summer, then it is going to be only a short matter of time before he's back on these platforms. because he definitely wants to have access to them again. not only just to have access to his supporters and have a

microphone where he can have a larger influence, facebook in particular is really going to be huge for him in his 2024 campaign. because it is also a fund raising platform for him. and the trump campaign is very adept when it comes to digital fundraising. a use it to collect data and make money. and so, i think that is going to be hugely beneficial to him as well. >> do you think he will be the republican nominee? >> i'm hopeful that he won't be, but obviously no one has declared as of now. and only time will tell. i think that some folks are flirting with the idea of entering the race and so i am hopeful that others will enter the race soon and challenge him because he is definitely vulnerable. and it is not going to be like it was in 2016 hopefully where we have an enormous amount of people entering the race. i think republicans need to be smart and just had a couple of choices that we can coalesce around. that way the challenger can be

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>> the former president gets his facebook and instagram accounts back, just one flash point tonight, also the issue of new support for the war in ukraine, in the form of m1 abrams tanks. that support, coming as conservative lawmakers demand spending cuts to raise the debt limit. it is possible cuts for social security, and medicare, joining me now, senator bernie sanders. appreciate it, and just briefly, do you think it is the right course for them to welcome trump back? >> look, you have a guy who is a pathological liar, but he's the former president's united states, and he has a right to express his views. >> in a meeting president biden today, to the war in ukraine come up? do you support the

president's decision to send 31 abrams tanks? >> it did not come up. mostly, what we were talking about, is assuming position of the health education, labor and pensions committee. and the issues we'll be working on on the committee. >> to repudiate negotiate with them, what do you think that, and the democrats are confused, -- >> once the american people understand what the republican agenda is, i think they're gonna retreat from that agenda. look, we're living in an era of -- billionaires are getting richer, working people are struggling, something like half of older workers in this country have nothing saved for retirement. so the idea that under trump, as you recall, we give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the very rich and large corporations, and our republicans are coming back and saying, i, guess what, are really worried about the deficit, the national debt, we want to cut social security and medicaid another programs of

vital importance, life and death importance to working families -- i don't think they're gonna get away with it. i think the american people will say, no way. you're not gonna do that. >> you're obviously a staunch supporter of expanding its title mints like social security. the congressional budget office says that without intervention, the program -- as soon as 2033. some lawmakers have floated the idea of this bipartisan panel to look at how to save those programs. do you support that approach, or would you have conditions? >> i wouldn't support that approach. the conclusion that came out with last time was major cuts to social security, et cetera. look, the solution that this problem is not very hard to understand. we've got legislation to address it. anderson, right now, if you've got one person who makes 100 million dollars a year, and another person who makes $160,000 a year, both of those people put in exactly the same amount of money into social security. this is a ceiling on --

if you lift that cap, starting at $250, 000, you can make social security not only solvent for the next 75 years, 75 years you can increase benefits for lower income elderly people who are struggling really hard right now to get by. that's the solution to the problem. and i hope that will get a large amount of support for that. >> on the debt ceiling, how does it end? how does this problem resolve? >> i think it and simply. the weight should under no democratic society. that is the american people make the decisions. do you really want to cut social security, medicare, and medicaid. several years after republicans gave huge tax breaks to the richest people in the largest corporations. and at a time when we have more income and wealth inequality then we have had in 100 years.

really, is not what you wanted? is what you think the american people want? and none other than our old friend donald trump, who i disagree with, needless to say, on everything. trump told the republicans, hey, you're crazy. you can't cut social security and medicare, and i think they're gonna listen to him. >> you've -- you, know you've seen a lot near time in public service. does it make sense to you why republicans in the house are standing by congressman george santos? >> who knows. i honestly don't pay a whole lot of attention to that. i doubt that the american people are. look, when i'm worried about, anderson, right now, as we've got a committee called health education labor. we have a dysfunctional health care system, we spend twice as much per capita on health care as the people of any other country, you got a 5 million people uninsured or underinsured. that's why -- we've got an educational system where childcare and pre-k is in

real trouble. and we'll disarray. we're losing hundreds of thousands of teachers a year. salaries are much too low. classroom conditions are bad. we have to address that issue. deal with student debt. and in terms of labor, we have 60% of our people who are living paycheck to paycheck. so i'm gonna try to do is not get involved in inside gossip. i'm gonna try to pay attention to the needs of working families, many of whom are struggling right now just to put food on the table. >> senator bernie sanders, appreciate your time is always. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, the first day and the double murder trial, alex murdoch accused of killing his wife and son. randi kaye was in the courtroom, she joins us with the first news. ♪3, 4♪ ♪ ♪hey♪ ♪

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that the forensics case does not backup the prosecution's case. randi kaye was in the courtroom today and has been following it all from the beginning. before we get to a -- understand some of alex murdaugh's family showed up in the course of it. >> they did, anderson. he had quite an entourage there supporting him. his brothers were there, john marvin, and randi murdaugh. they've been strong defenders of. him also, his only surviving son, buster murdaugh -- -- and then gave -- -- a times, the statements were very disturbing. both sides should quite a bit about what they learned from the murder scene. and here's just a little bit of those opening statements. >> the evidence is going to show that neither paul nor maggie had any defensive wounds. neither one of them had any defensive wounds, as if they

did not see a threat coming from their attacker. >> that attacker says prosecutor creighton waters was alex murdaugh. as he laid out what he says are the facts of the case in his opening statement, he described the brutal -- maggie murdaugh on the night of june 7th, 2021. picked up that 300 blackout rifle, and opened fire on his wife, maggie, pop, pop. two shots, abdomen, in the leg, and took her down, and after that, for additional shots, including two shots to the head -- and again, did catastrophic damage. he killed her instantly. >> the prosecutor also makes an attempt early on to convince the jury alex was at the scene when paul and maggie were killed, despite him saying he was not. at 8:44, 55 seconds, paul recorded the video, and see

that video? you hear from witnesses that identify paul's voice, maggie's voice, and alex's voice. told anyone who would listen he was never there -- 8:44, 55 seconds, the evidence will show that he was there. >> murdaugh's defense attorney opened with this -- >> this is alex murdaugh. alex with a loving father of paul and the loving husband of maggie. >> then he moved to described, in gruesome terms, how paul murdaugh died. literally exploded his head -- like a watermelon hit with a sledgehammer. all that was left was the front of his face. everything else was gone. his brain exploded out of his head, hit the ceiling in the shed and dropped to his feet.

horrendous. horrible! >> the defense said, an hour before paul was killed, he and his father were having a good time, riding around the property together. he told the jury, it does not make sense that alex kill his son. he also pointed out that whoever shot paul would have been covered in blood, giving the violent nature of the shooting. alex murdaugh was not. >> his head exploded -- he would be covered in blood from head to foot. >> still, the prosecutor did his best to try to place the murder weapon in alex murdaugh 's hand. he says maggie was killed with a shotgun that alex had purchased, a gun that has gone missing. >> you are going to hear forensic evidence that the cases that were found in that -- and the cases that were found across the street at that range were exempted out of the same weapon that fired out of the cases that were around maggie's dead body and killed her. it was a family weapon that

killed maggie murdaugh. >> you hear the prosecutor mentioned the audio that was found on murdaugh's cell phone puts alex murdaugh at the scene early in the night. were you able to learn what was on that audio? >> we did, anderson. as you know, alex murdaugh has said he showed up and found his wife and son bleeding and not breathing. and then he called 9-1-1 at 10:07 pm. then we learned recently that there was audio found on paul murdaugh's phone and you can hear alex murdaugh talking to his family members. we never knew what it said, but the defense is always that it was a friendly conversation, nothing the ferries about it. but today, in court, the defense finally told us what was on that -- was alex talking to his son paul about a dog attacking a chicken. he said there was nothing bad in that conversation. in fact, he said, paul then texted a girl then ten minutes later asking her to go to the movies. so, that does alex at the scene

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>> a report now you'll only see on cnn -- china's zero covid policy kept people in their homes for weeks at a time. the country tried to get a handle on the pandemic. authorities kicked down doors to remove people who they said tested positive, force them into quarantine. they also barricaded streets, refused to change the policy until rare mass protests sprung up across the country, forcing the government to ease restrictions. and most of that was taking place in large cities. the vast interior of the country was pretty much

forgotten. our selina wang wanted to see what was happening hundreds of miles away from those lockdowns and protests. so, she went. and her report is remarkable. watch. >> this is how people celebrate the lunar new year in this village. [crowd chanting] >> this year celebration is particularly special. the adults around this table all work in factories in the cities. this is the only time when many of them can see their children. the man next to me says, we've got to go wherever we can make money, and china's zero covid policy over the last three years has made it all even harder. he says the policy prevented them from going home but. now that the country is open, they can all be together. we came to this place in china 's southern province to see how part of rural china is celebrating the lunar new year without any pandemic restrictions. we visited villagers's homes. >> this woman greets us with a

treat and alcohol, both made from rice from the paddy fields nearby. drinking is a big part of celebrating here. about 1000 people live in this village. and for hundreds of years, they have lived in these traditional wooden houses and you can hear the chickens crowing and there are these ducks as well that they raised for food. >> in many ways, this place is a time capsule. its physical isolation has preserved a way of life for centuries, though china's -- ethnic minority. they have their own language, tradition and culture, but they can't escape the economic realities of modernity. normally, this village is full of the elderly and young kids, with most of the working age adults gone, working in faraway factories, sending money home. this couple works in a factory 500 miles away in guangdong province, making circuit boards. he tells me he hasn't seen his kids for a year. last time he left, his son could not even walk.

he says it's emotional to see them grow so much. for the first time in three years, millions of chinese migrant families are finally able to reunite without the fear of covid lockdowns. almost everyone i speak to on camera says no one around them has gotten covid, like this elderly woman, who makes traditional crafts. she says she has not been wearing a mask and points to her shoulder, saying she has had vaccine shots. but we run into another group of young people who say otherwise. the man in the brown jacket, with his back turned, is a doctor at a hospital in a nearby city. he says, almost all the villagers have been infected. i ask -- and in response, he says, they have never been tested. but clearly, they have covid symptoms. we've got three government minders following us. it's common for local officials to keep a close eye on foreign journalists in their jurisdictions.

but they were especially persistent in this village, following our every move. so, we drive out of the village to visit a public hospital in a neighboring county about two hours away, hoping these government minders won't follow us, so people will feel more comfortable speaking freely. we walk inside the fever clinic. it's almost entirely empty. and in the main hospital area, there are more people, but it's not packed. it's a stark contrast to the images of overflowing hospitals in major cities across china, from weeks before. i ask a nurse on another floor of the hospital if it was packed with patients a few weeks ago. she says, it's always packed and busy here. we try to ask why it looks empty here. but another doctor interrupts, ending our interview. we find one woman, a patient's family member, who is willing to speak to us. she says, everyone around her has already gotten covid and recovered. soon after, we realize we are being followed, apparently by a whole different crew.

there was at least two, three government minders. they are still following us on the way here. it's very ominous -- they follow us to hospital after hospital, preventing anyone from speaking to us. i try confronting them. i asked them why they are following us everywhere. and he ignores me. he's walking away. [speaking non-english] >> so, i tried this official. she refuses to even acknowledge my question. and what happens next, during my interview with this girl, shocks us. [speaking non-english] >> [speaking non-english] >> okay, so -- i was interviewing the girl and the minders literally took her away from us. the main pushes her family and the girl away -- but our interviews in the marketplace are over. china's cpc says the covid peak across the country has passed. but in rural areas like this,

experts say there is likely far more silent suffering. people who died at home because they could not afford to go to the hospital or were unable to get there on time. back in the village, we are greeted by the sounds of squealing pigs getting ready to be slaughtered. it is a lunar new year tradition. decades ago, for most countryside families, this was the only time of the year when they could afford to eat meat. -- the whole family, relatives, they're all getting together for the new year. enjoying the freshly killed pig meat. this woman shows me the fabric she made herself. so in just a thin strip of this cloth just takes her more than a day. whether it's in the village or in faraway factories, they are hardworking people. they will do whatever it takes to give their kids a better life, even if it means long bouts of separation from them, making reunions like these all the more meaningful. >> so amazing to see life in that village.

it's also amazing to see the level of minders following you -- i mean, the amount of resources they are devoting to this one report that you are doing -- is that normal? >> yeah, anderson. it is normal for these local officials to basically -- they get a heads up when a for journalist with a foreign passport, they check into a hotel or home stay. so, we were surprised when six mind is greeted us at our hotel. but we were surprised by the level of persistence. they followed us to literally every place. there was this moment, anderson, where we were trying to get this amazing shot up at the top of the mountain. so, we walked up and down the mountainside, probably for two hours. and they followed us every step of the way, every step of the way down on this winding, narrow road. and i said to them, look, we are just trying to get somebody -- are just trying to get some b-roll of the shot up there.

you don't have to follow us that closely. you are exhausting. and they said -- they were basically like, well, that's pretty much our job. we try driving away to get more information on the covid situation. so, we went out several hours out of their district. but somehow, they knew we were going there to, because we had a whole different group of people telling us the entire time. we reported a hospital after hospital and they were much more aggressive there, and much more obvious in the way they were trying to obstruct our reporting. clearly, talking to all the potential interviewees. we would speak to some of the moments later. they cut, in speak in the local language. and then suddenly, they would not speak to us anymore. so, clearly they had planned and alerted them the network of clinics there that we were coming. so, this is kind of the level of obstruction that cnn faced just a couple of years ago in xinjiang, reporting on very sensitive stuff. but now, for foreign media reporting in china, virtually everything is considered sensitive. >> selina wang, i really appreciate what you do. thank you. coming up next -- new developments in the tyre nichols case, the man who died after confrontation with police. we are waiting for a video with a confrontation to be released. but in the meantime, news about

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