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new questions about the source of substantial loans congressman george santos campaign. the embattled republican caught in a web of lies as you know previously claimed he made personal loans to his campaign totaling more than $700,000. but a new filings with the federal election commission boxes indicate that loans of 500,000 dollars and $125,000 come from personal funds well, those were left unmarked. i want you to turn to cnn commentator joan goldberg and ashley, and i have a mcken, let's begin about these questions around the loans, what are you learning about the loans he allegedly gave to his own campaign. >> the broad outlines of this story that you mentioned, that is absolutely correct. he previously said that he personally loaned his campaign $5 hundred,000 that was in the filing, he also i iterated this,
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went on the podcast with congressman matt gates not too long ago and suggested that this academy from his personal wealth. in these amended filings, he's now changing his story, the box to indicate that these are personal funds are now not checked but also really usually here, laura, he's still listed as a source of the loan elsewhere in the filings. so you know, i don't know if confusion is the point here but that's the out come, our colleague trying to get answers from him today, take a listen. >> why did you amend your fec report >> let's make the clear, i don't amend anything, i don't touch my fec stuff, don't be disingenuous, every campaign hires fiduciaries i don't have an answer. >> this should coming that he often says that he will have an answer for the press and then you can hear him there trying to
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push this off on financial folks. i don't know anything about this. also, another sort of curious component to think in new filings today, campaign officials listed thomas datwhiler as the treasurer of several of his committees, cnn reached out to him and this man says, listen i spoke with him they didn't asked me to come on as treasurer but i declined, he's not the treasurer according to his attorney c how impactful is this >> taking a step back, obviously i think the american can understand quite easily the idea of somebody lying, the idea of a resume, the idea of conversations around a gofundme. but the idea of fec filings, i wonder if that translates the same way. >> i long thought in a proper world he would have had shame
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horry sign or forced out. those things aren't happening that's not the world we live in. if you're thinking he's going to leave congress before the end of his term it will have to be something like this, where they're on a thread, looks like illegally forging and some someone else's name, someone claims it was e signed which is a crime. >> allegedly. go ahead. >> fair enough, but my point is, this is the only thing that is going to get kevin mccarthy to change his position, which is that he's elected, he hasn't broken any laws, al he is is a big fat liar and we need his fourth vote in the republican conference and the thing that can change that is evidence of an actual crime. that's the only thing ever to get end anybody expelled from congress, except treason. >> there is no mechanism to remove the electorate, there's
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the idea of shame, put that aside, that's not necessarily a big factor we see but the idea of that being something that could on the one hand absolve and relief mccarthy of having to do what is not the standard, but also try to presending some semblance of integrity gop more broadly. we don't know all the answers it is speculative at this point until we have the complete story, is this mecca you think might be used. >> perhaps. i don't think kevin mccarthy wants to lose this seat. he wish this story just goes away. i find it not comical, but questionable that don't be disingenuous in your reporting or disingenuous as a liar or candidate, george santos, i don't think that the house republicans are going to try and get santos to resign, i think it's criminal charges are
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brought, he's prosecuted, which seems like -- he just keeps lying so much he'll get caught on something at some point that that night club the out but unfortunately, lying is not enough anymore for a sitting congressman. >> on that point you did have a comment from kevin mccarthy reporting this is cnn that mccarthy talked about santos in a closed conference meeting today and he said there's a difference between lying and committing a crime. then says the latter cause you say to lose a committee spot. is that it? that's the only bar. >> that has been his central argument all along, he pretty much has been saying variations of this for past few weeks, that it takes a really high bar to call for someone's removal, that ultimately you should listen to the voters in his district. who elected him. he certainly speaker mccarthy not listening to them now many voters are saying had they known about the real george santos, if
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that's, you know, his true name they wouldn't have supported him. also i spoke with a campaign legal expert a campaign finance expert today and he told me you know, this is either slope bookkeeping, he's never seen anything like it or clearly some illegal activity. >> we'll see which one it is, maybe he'll give us an answer on that. that's the standard phrase, also stick around panel coming back but george santos he actually hosted a business dinner back in november of 2020 that was attended boy christian lopez and his attorney, tiffany bigosian reported by the "washington post," santos, you remember working for harbor city capitol a florida behaved investment firm and lopez said he was pitching him to invest $300,000 but lopez declined. the securities and exchange commission later accused the
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firm of being a ponzi scheme, santos denied knowledge. i want to begin with you welcome to the program, christian let me begin with only. because according to reporting, santos brought you to a restaurant in queens, a fancy restaurant in queens back in november 2020. he wanted you to invest about $300,000. can you tell us what happened in that instance >> yes, he was trying to pitch me some ideas that pitch, basically give him $300,000 and he gives me $3,000 every two, three weeks things like that which wasn't making sense to me honestly >> you described a situation out of scene from good fell las, tell me about that. >> we went into this restaurant, greeted very, very good, like we were family and i never stepped foot in there in my life, northeasterly had my lawyer or girlfriend, so when we go in
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there, we get treated we go to the second floor, and then there's just a big room where one table, a butler and george santos and then right then and there i was like, what? this is different. this is -- this is nice, like, wow. i've never been treated this nice before but i was like, wow, let's see what's going on here so we further went in, ordered food, after that he got to talking about the business. and that's where i just started like looking at it all wrong right there are flag started coming up it like makes no sense >> what were those red flag that is made you suspicious about this venture >> basically he was saying the worst thing you could say to anybody, you give us 300,000 but you're not allowed to know what you're investing into, pretty much i give the money to him and i don't know if he's making bombs, i don't care drugs. i don't know what he's investing this money to, i don't know
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where whose sending. he's like that has nothing to do with you all you need to do is give me the money, every two to three weeks i'll give you $3,000. and i was like how does this make sense? this doesn't sound right. and tried to use -- that he was -- down with trump and his people and all these other things and they will do good and make big moves and things like that. >> i want to bring you in here tiffany and we know know that the scc is looking into it as a ponzi scheme not knowing the nature of criminal activity suggested in the sense of what was being purchased. what the money is going to for and we won't know, we can reach out to george santos for comment and did not receive it. but tiffany you know santos and you actually agreed to dinner you were a bit of a liaison, you knew it could be a scam, what
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set off alarm bells for you. >> unfortunately i was the intermediate year between christian and george, i regret that 1,000 percent but thankfully it didn't go further than it did. but essentially i knew george from junior high school r he went to junior high school with me, is 125 in sunny side queens, after junior high school we kind of lost touch and reacquainted ourselves in our about 2019. this case christian's case occurred in 2018 but by the time of settlement, it was 2020 and as it got closer to settlement, i mean, this was you know, my first large case out of law school on my own. and i was excited about it and i was telling everybody you know, i worked in the past with different knewty companies.
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as far as harbor city capitol i find it ironic fake news, fake media, disingenuous reporting he never said anything about harbor city capitol upstate dinner. he led us to believe and christian to believe and me to believe that at the time he worked for goldman sachs and he was a personal banker on ben franklin of goldman sachs, and all his representations were on behalf of goldman sachs. in fact, after christian -- so the red flags came up as far as you don't know what you're investing in. for me the red flags came up immediately when i hear $3,000 a month in interest on an investment, i worked with several anuity company, with large investments, $3,000 is unheard of anywhere. so that was a huge red flag.
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and then you know, thereafter, he followed confidential memorandum again from harvard city capitol but was acting at the endorse and everything as if it was on behalf of goldman sachs, he made all these representations as he was an employee of goldman sachs in fact when christian declined to invest, he essentially called me and was very upset. that was the last conversation that we had over the phone where he said he was very upset, he needed disbursements from goldman sachs. i said listen this is the nature of your business, clients have the right to choose or not to choose, he decided to forego it and that was that. and essentially he never spoke to me after that and when all these lies were exposed and i heard that he never work for goldman sachs or city group or anything i was beyond belief you're thinking somebody is
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going no their own pockets to disturbs this kind of money to create these bells and whistle to take advantage and make off with it essentially. >> at one point, i would say -- at one point, all three of us we're shaking our head throughout the story just thinking about what you're describing and telling here not in a vacuum, in his is a sitting member of congress. thank you so much all of you for joining us today. appreciate it. >> thank you, have a great night. thank you. >> bye. more disturbing details in already shocking story of a teacher allegedly shot by a 6-year-old student. teacher's lawyer claims the school was warned not once, not even twice, but three times the actual day of the shooting that the child allegedly had a gun on him. and we also have new and more developments on all of this next.
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newport news newport news school board voting to cut ties with the superintendent almost three weeks after a 6-year-old allegedly shot a teacher in the district. coming the same day that the assistant principal in the elementary school resigned. and the teacher who was shot is planning to sue the school
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district. abby zwerner's lawyer claimed school officials were warned three times day of the shooting that the child had a gun. >> when a fourth employee who heard about the danger asked the administrator for permission to search the boy, he was denied. tragically almost an hour later, violence struck richneck elementary school. >> back with jonah goldberg and ashley allison and joined by tia mitchell "washington post" correspondent. this story is stunning for a lot of different reason, the idea that a 6-year-old child allegedly shot a teacher. hearing about the fact she survived it, she's able to get her students to safety, thank goodness, the lawyer for teacher laying out today the different moments in time when it could have been prevented perhaps. why did the school not react? what are we learning. >> i think the school still has
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a lot of questions to answer on after all these warnings, they still didn't find gun on the student. they had another student saying he flashed a gun, they had school, other teachers saying, you know, search him, we hear he has a gun they searched his backpack but when it was said that probably had the gun in his pocket they didn't have permission to search the student himself, that leaves a lot of questions about not listening to warning signs of an imin the event threat's even if they didn't think the student would point the gun at the teacher, which he did, obviously, but so many other ways that a gun in possession a 6-year-old is not a mart thing, he could have shot helps, he could have shot another student even accidentally. those are the issues that i think are really causing questions about the administrators at the school and the decisions they made that day. >> it's an important point again about 20 years ago, there was the "washington post" featured a
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story about a 6-year-old girl who was killed by another student i believe it was in michigan, just a real tragedy to think about and the prosecutor in the case trying to figure out what can be done when you have a 6-year-old assail he want but the idea who to hold to account, particular when you have the challenge of youth of offender alleged offender in this instance, is it is the right call when you think about the superintendent or the idea of who ought to be fired or, resign you get the sense of something has to be done, is this the right course correction? >> look, i used to be in a classroom the furthest thing remove from me on a day-to-day basis was the superintendent of schools. if we're facing an imminent threat we would not have teen the time to call the superintendent. i think if the procedures of the school district are inadequate, that would be a reason why the superintendent would fall --
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would take some blame, you aren't allowed to search a student if there's even if there is a threat. i think the person who was responsible once the threats were raised and took no action they have to have some type of repercussion, this is a terrible scenario. i would hope if someone came to me and said a 6-year-old has a gun, you don't think that, in this day and age you cannot take something like that lightly somebody has to pay for a failed protocol and procedures being implemented that day. >> of course, the teacher is paying the price in part having been shot but this is actually the fourth school shooting involving and boy someone as young as six since 1970 given the numbers we have in gun violence overall some might scoff at that number, we're talking about a six wed, how do you protect elementary schools and conversations and there's no
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simple answer be but without having more measures that undermine what the schools experience what the children could have to be >> we're talking about a population of probably over time 80, hundred million kids gone through schools since 1970. at the far right tale of distribution, we have these horrible incidents, they're not unique but rare, it is really hard they don't extrapolate unifying rules for everybody. if i were one of the parents, i would want to be on the about people getting fired, i would not be subtle, i would be so angry and terrified for my kids but at the same time to your point, it's like, hard cases make for bad law. the idea 6-year-old he's packing heat and they won't find it in
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his backpack and don't search him for it. teacher is absolutely right to sue. sounds like she's got a good case and sounds like they need to figure out a whole bunch of new procedures and heads will roll and lessons will be learned but also have sympathy for people in real life they thought this was outside the realm of their imagination and responded badly but not like monsters, this was just a horrible situation and sadly hopefully we'll have lessons learned and best practices that come out of it. i don't know what they can be. >> a lot of us are trying to figure and grapple with this question, and if there were a simple answer, we'd already have deterrance 100%, but we'll follow this as well everyone stick around because well, it's called the dooms day clock, have you heard? as close to midnight as it's ever gotten what does that mean exactly? spoiler alert, it ain't good. we'll explain next. ♪. ♪.
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. this is cnn. so check this out. the bulletin of the atomic scientist making an historic announcement about the well-known doomsday clock >> we move the clock forward the
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closest it's ever been to midnight, it is now 90 seconds to midnight. >> the doomsday clock started way back in 1947, the artist saying he set the original clock at seven minutes to midnight because it looked good to his yo, over the years, the bulletin science security board met to discuss current events, whether the clock needs to be reset, the furthest clock has been away from midnight was 17 minutes back in 1991 after george h w bush's administration signs the strategic arms reduction treaty with the soviet union, i said a few minutes ago the closest it's been to midnight is now, hand just 90 seconds away. multiple factors why they moved this clock forward including russia's invasion of ukraine, continuing threats posed by climate change and also online
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disinformation. the clock has actually never reached midnight but if it does, the bulletin's president and ceo says it will mean there's been some event led to total aannihilation. i want you to bring back in jonah goldberg, ashley allison, and tia, mitchell. >> i don't want to be the bumper here. >> doomsday clock. >> i think the doomsday clock has been hot garbage for decade, it's a publicity student. i live and think tank world the presence i know a lot of people think tank be world, the bulletin of a scientist board are no more expert at global affairs than a half dozen other think tanks that you have at university as guests you have on here all the time. we've been hundreds of second from midnight for 70 years according to these people. maybe they got to check their math a little bit. my biggest problem with it, as
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historically, this whole thing always been a propaganda tool to put pressure on western governments to buy into arms control kind of thing, no effect on communist china, purely western government. and western fears, i don't give it any credibility at all c is it working is the propaganda gimmick or larger point of alerting people we're always on the brink we heard discussionings of being on the brink of nuclear war, other things and riots, is this an illustration of what is a political talking point about being on the brink. >> i didn't need the doomsday clock folk to tell me we were on brink. i don't know about you. i mean, you know, i go back to y2k when everybody was going to fall apart and we were back in
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the 1900, we went through a pandemic that shut the world down in ways we thought we would never see in our lifetime. the united states capitol was under attack and insurrection happened in the land of the free. we have the largest racial uprising in the world. the summer of 2020 and policy change didn't happen. it feels like we are on the brink of disaster over and over again. and so i don't think and then, there are american that is can barely afford the cost of eggs. so i think they aren't paying attention to this clock, i certainly am not. and unfortunately, if tears a little gloom and doom all the time in america and across the globe. >> tia what do you think year on the brink of having a former president back on facebook and instagram, is that closer to doomsday >> that could contribute to it. we know that when trump was
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president some things he said on social media could have caused a war, you know, that we know that his own advisors were nervous about him causing nuclear war by being careless with his words or his actions. you know, i'll be the one to kind of stick up for the doomsday clock, you know, i can't say that it resinated very deeply with me, i don't think most americans are paying attention be but to their point, nuclear war is a threat, because of russia not doing so well in its invasion of ukraine and if putin gets, you know, desperate, then that's a threat. climate change once again we know that that is a real threat not just in america but around the world >> misinformation >> misinformation in the way twitter under its new ownership immigrants information is starting to go wild ramped on that media site and many other,
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so if it takes a weird corner of a clock unveiling to get people to start paying attention to that stuff, then so be it because i do think we should be paying attention. >> i agree retiring that we should be paying attention, but it's not a paying attention clock, it's not oh man we got problems clock, it's we're seconds from total annihilation and extent shall eraser on the planet clock. and this information isn't leading to that. the threat from nuclear war is coming entirely from putin and people listening to those people aren't in moscow climate change is real and a problem but the timeline by all the experts who are most passionate about it is very different than like nuclear war tomorrow. it is, and maybe telling everybody that we are seconds from the apocalypse, which is what so much of twitter and social media does already, is part of the problem. because it keeps everybody in a state of panic.
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if you tell a whole generation of kids the world is ending tomorrow anyway, that's not a way to get people to be productive contributors to society, build a social movement, political movement, it's basically saying we're all dead tomorrow let's have fun. >> i feel like people are living like that anyway. >> that's a problem. >> generationally i think a lot of people don't know what the doomsday clock is anyway, and if we pulled the voting population, i would err more than 50% are unfamiliar with it and wawa impact it's supposed to have. >> they would know reality show about doomsday pressures because we have a binge watch something every now and then, the doomsday clock is the reason for quiet quitting. >> everyone a wild police chase in wisconsin with a very dramatic ending and most shocking part, the wife of the car's owner was actually inside, she was asleep when the car was stolen.
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. try to imagine what you would do if this happened to you. picture it. you're asleep in the back seat of your own car, your husband has stepped out when a stranger sacrums into the car and steals it sparking a wild police chase, this happened to a woman in wisconsin earlier this month and the whole thing was caught on dash cam video. michelle beck our affiliate wmtv has more.
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(sirens >> this is the 4:00 a.m. chase to find driver later identified as kyle wagner accused of driving away january 14th in someone else's car, in the back seat was a woman who woke up to the high speed ride. this is her call for help. >> i was in a gas station, my husband just get out from car. >> the victim told dispatch she doesn't know where she is but you hear her talking with wagner >> no, not trying to do anything you should get back now. >> no, you're not turning around >> according to a criminal complaint, the victim said wagner told her he was a truck driver, and there was a conspiracy people wanted to kill them. so he was saving her. >> why you take the car from -- from the gas station?
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you following us. >> your husband. >> my husband of course it's my car. >> the deputy behind the squad car is cited in according to court documents, he said how he drove about 90 miles an hour on the wrong side of traffic until state patrol car used a chase tactic to cause the car to crash into a guardrail. watch as the car lefted into the air and air bag exploded. victim came out first from the back seat crying. >> i don't know, i don't know what this guy. >> officers took 51-year-old man from new york into custody. after admitting he use fentanyl and meth within 24 hours. wagner now faces multiple felony charges. michelle beck of affiliate wmtv. i want to bring in juiliette. what is your reaction, what
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should she have done? she call 911, she stayed on the phone talking calmly while this was a 90 miles per hour high speed chase, was that the right approach? >> absolutely and we should put this isn't just one incident, the increase in carjacking for people who look at the harms occurring in some areas have increased 50%. that is also related to covid. more people are home, these are -- these are taking of property. many people do not want to encounter people so they're not going into home. so car jackings are increasing, and this coincidence she's actually in the car did exactly she kept her calm. relatively. she was called for help, and, and tried to get out of that situation in the best way she could. this is actually a national phenomenon with this twist we're showing here, which is of course someone was in the car, it is a reminder when we look at this
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kind of crime we need to knock doors, windows up and not leaving people in car, it's so fundamentally obvious but nonetheless some something hbo reminded there's a lot of quick fixes we can put into place. >> the idea of talking about the types of cme pandemic, the idea of having not a victimless crime but a property based crime, with drugs as well, are we seeing a reaction from law enforcement to better prepare especially given interaction with drugs in this country as well. >> that's right. and some of these cases you're seeing the ones that we're looking at you're seeing sort of fentanyl and other sort of drugs that are causing this kind of behavior, i don't want to blame it on one particular drug, but this is a situation in which the combination of mental health issues, drugs and then also the desire for property crime not
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encountering anyone is the elevated threat now. police departments are responding just looking on line now, you can see a lot more education to the public about just basic precautions these are things happening, we're a large country and it's a phenomenon people need to address but it is something that is also we're aware of why it's happening right now. we're home more and a lot of these people don't want to encounter people, they just want the property, the resale find out what's in the car. >> unbelievable i'm so glad this woman is safe. juiliette thank you so much for your expertise only and so many other topics, we'll be right back. ♪. ♪. ♪. if the stains aren't gone, your lasagna is on finish. ( ♪ )
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disney world officially closings down splash mountain this week after two years after announcing the colt favorite ride would close among growing complaints theme of the attraction centered around the 1946 film song of the sage widely criticized for being racist, it's retheming based on princess tianna, still has splash mountain at two other make sure, back with me jonah goldberg, ashley allison and tia mutual. the idea here that this is being revamped the idea of looking into the reasons why the connection. what do you make of it. >> i think this is simple solution to a problem that has gone on for way too long, you ride roller coaster, particularly flash mountain
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because you can get wet, it's water ride and a hot day at the park and it's a fun roller coaster. you don't need racial under tone, you don't need glam rising slavery, remove it they don't need to be packaged together. >> what do you say >> i agree, disney has been trying to distance itself from song of the south, it's not accessible in any official channels past ceos have said it's offensive, they're not going to release it on dvd for example, but they still had this ride at its theme parks that's directly connected to characters from the movie, so i think they said, you know, if we're really going to distance ourselves from song of the south, we've got to let go of this really popular, really fun ride that is associated with the movie. i think that's the smart thing to do is to repurposes it so you can still have the log ride fun
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without the under tones of a movie that's from its inception was considered racist >> maybe some did not realize it in isn't way but there's a petition to change that on change.org over 99,000 signatures, by the way it's not being destroyed, just repurposed in some way, it says modifying the ride will only encourage quote the easily offended. >> i think that you give the an tronus, this is private company that cares about its own brand i think we can stipulate the overwhelming majority of people that love this ride don't love it for the racism it's the right thing to do, save the fun parts of it. and no one has a right to like -- the people complaining about those are easily offended are the ones being easily fended by
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this. >> you wonder what's going to happen in florida, there was the brewing fued between disney and governor desantis about the tax advantages, this is a different confrontation now, them proactive as a company, we'll see what happens and of course, it's coming back and i like tiana, there you go, everyone, thank you for watching, our coverage does continue and no, i won't break out into song.
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