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>> good evening, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota. and this is cnn tonight. memphis is holding its breath, waiting for the release of the video showing exactly would
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happen to 20 nine-year-old to 29 year old tyree nichols after he was pulled over by police on january 7th. three days later, he was dead. an independent autopsy blamed his death an extensive bleeding caused by severe beating. and tonight, his mother pleads for peace. >> when that tape comes out tomorrow, it's going to be horrific. >> my lord. >> i didn't see it, but from what i hear it's going to be horrific. but i want each and every one of you to protest in peace. i don't want us burning up our cities, tearing up the streets. >> amen. >> because that's not what my son stood for. >> people who have seen this police body cam video call it shocking, sickening, and appalling. >> i've seen the video. as she stated, you will to.
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in a word, it's absolutely appalling. let me be clear. what happened here does not at all reflect proper policing. this was wrong, this was criminal. >> so tomorrow night the public will see this video and then what? that's one of the questions that we'll be asking tonight. because unlike with the rodney king video or the george floyd video, this time the police officers in the video were quickly fired and today they were arrested and charged with second degree murder, assault, and kidnapping. will that be enough to calm the community that is demanding justice? and what is seeing violent videos like this do to our national psyche? we have a lot to talk about we also have a lot of news tonight, but let's begin with what's happening tonight in memphis. joining me now, cnn senior crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz. he's in memphis.
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we have chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller here in studio. so, shimon prokupecz. tell us what you have learned on the ground there tonight. >> yeah, so, we're all obviously waiting for this video, we expect to see it tomorrow. but also i think one of the new details we got from the dea today in the press conference that i thought were important. we've been pressing trying to get answers to the timeline. there's a lot of gaps in exactly what happened and we heard for the first time from the da about some of what happened in the initial encounter with the officers. take a listen to what the dea talked to us about today. >> the initial traffic stop, we won't comment right now on the presence or absence of the legality of the stock, but it was a traffic stop. there was an initial altercation involving several officers and mr. nichols. pepper spray was deployed. the suspect, not the suspect --
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mr. nichols, fled on foot. there was another altercation and nearby location at which the serious injuries were experienced by mr. nichols after some period of time of waiting around afterwards, he was taken away by ambulance. beyond that i don't really think we should go into any further details. >> what are those further details? officials here the, da certainly said he's gonna let the video speak for itself. we just haven't heard those kind of details, the specifics of what happened. i thought it was also significant for him to talk about how he took some time for the medics to arrive, for the victim here to get the proper treatment, so we're starting to learn more about what really authorities here are saying we don't really want to talk about what exactly happened here and they really want to just allow the video to speak for itself. >> okay, well, obviously we're all bracing for that, but in
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the meantime we do have some police scanner audio. this is right before, we are told, that the police beat tyre nichols. so this is where i think they are first pulling him over. so let's listen to that. >> one male running. >> scorpion car, pull over, when running on foot. >> run that tag -- -- >> -- >> he's fighting at this time. >> what do you hear there, john? >> i hear they have made the stop, but we don't hear that part. and then he's running. and then he comes on in says run that tag and see where it comes back to. so he's gotten away, in the trying to figure out, well if he's running home, where is that, because it could be nearby. and of course it is, it's about half mile away. >> and that standard police stuff, right? >> that's right. that's what they should be
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doing. and then the next person you hear on the air has caught up to him and his fighting and calls out the street that is happening on, which is history,, he's about 80 yards from his home. and then he's calling for backup. so there's a whole bunch of questions that shimon says still need to be answered. but let's look through a couple of them. what was the stop for? this is a missing piece. they said reckless driving originally, but what was the reckless driving? no one has articulated that. what was the first altercation about that resulted in him being pepper sprayed and running away? and then what was the second altercation about? all of these are still blanks. what we have been told is that when the tape is released, you're going to see the incident from end to end and some if not all of these questions will be answered. >> shimon, one of the things that the police were charged with with aggravated kidnapping. that got peoples attention. because, what does that mean? and are you asked that question.
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you are told that meant he was unlawfully detained or contained somehow. to have any more information on that? >> yeah. that was one of those charges that really, i think, caught many of us by surprise, because you certainly never see this in these kinds of cases. so we don't have any clarity. the way the da explained it is, you may have had an initial proper stop and you may have, that may have been legal, let's say. and then as you go through this encounter and you go into the second encounter, then that is where that may have occurred, where it was in illegal detainment of some kind, and because of the nature of this and how this all unfolded and your aggravating circumstances, that's why they charge this kidnapper. remember they are also the allegations here that the victim here was handcuffed during some of this beating. certainly the dea wouldn't talk about that. that is something we would
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likely see in the video. so that pertain to that as well. >> john, they're gonna release this video tomorrow night at 6 pm. that's a friday night at 6 pm. does that make sense to you? is that sort of ripe for trouble? >> if this were in new york city and i was in the nypd and this came up, i would want this on a tuesday. >> a school night, a work night. >> but i think what you are seeing in memphis is they have delivered the beginning of justice. they have brought extraordinarily serious charges and a slew of them against each officer. they have arrested them and one of them has made bail, others are trying to raise bond, but they are now in the system. and i think the way they are choreographing this is, let's make sure that people see that justice is being done. that's the beginning of it. and then we will release the tape.
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because if they did them together, i think justice would have been largely drowned out by the shock over the tape. i think they wanted people to digest that the system is working. and then see the tape and then they have all day today. they have tonight. they have all day tomorrow up until 5:00 when they generally see this. >> i should clarify, 6 pm local time in memphis, 7 pm here. >> to do that community outreach, to say if we're gonna march, let's march together. every color protesters, protest peacefully. and i think that memphis is confident that they have a handle on this. alisyn camerota, the question, is what does that mean in new york, in chicago, in l. a., -- >> are they prepared? >> they've been preparing. i think they are waiting and watching carefully. and i think they're all gonna be watching this tape. >> john, thank. you shimon, thank you very much for being on the ground for us. so tomorrow the public will finally see this video that shows why five fired memphis
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police officers were charged with second degree murder in the death of 29 year olds tyre nichols. -- ben crump, attorney for the family of tyre nichols. then, i always appreciate your time and i always appreciate seeing you, even though it's in these horrible circumstances. can you talk about this video? we called it deplorable, appalling, and heinous. can you describe the specifics of what we're gonna see tomorrow? can you give us some detail of what we need to brace for? >> it's going to be heartbreaking. you see the escalation from the very beginning when they encounter tyre nichols and they're shouting all kinds of profanity that him. they're grabbing him. and he says, what did i do? you get to see his humanity during the whole brutal attack. he's asking them, do you really
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have to do all of this? they just keep escalating and it's just so difficult to watch because at one point he says, i just want to go home. and maybe that may explain the kidnapping charges, i don't know. the prosecutor can explain his thinking there. but you want it just somebody, anybody there to say, hey, this isn't a criminal thug we thought it was. let's everybody calm down. just calm down. you never see that. it continues to escalate. >> one of your colleagues said that he was treated like a pin yacht pinata -- >> -- remind you of rodney king in many regards.
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>> meaning being kicked? >> being assaulted, battered, punched, kicked, tased, pepper sprayed. it is very troubling when you think about tyre as his family says at most he weighs 150 pounds. and so it's hard to watch, alisyn, and especially at the end of the video where he's calling for his mother. he yells out to her three times. and then you never hear tyre nichols say another word anymore on that video. you see him up against the car, sitting down in handcuffs and you see his body fall to the right and after a minute or so they put him back upright and then you see the body fall to the left and they pick him back up and it's obvious he's in distress. he is moaning and nobody renders aid. that's what is so painful, because you want some out of
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humanity, somebody that can say hey, we've got to try to help him, as it never occurs. that's what is so troubling about the video. >> so, ben, about, that they didn't call for help? they're not doing cpr? what was going on there? >> i think they did call for help because even firemen get on the same for several minutes. they don't bring the aid either and it's mind-boggling, alisyn, why somebody is not saying, hey, this kid is out of it. let's try to help him. that, we've got to move, we've got to do something. but you don't see that at all. that is very troubling. and i will say this, alisyn, the family is relieved that criminal charges have been brought against these officers for the killing of tyre, but
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them and many in our community want this not to be the precedent. when you have police officers, whether black or white commit crimes and is captured on video, we know that you don't have to wait six months now, because a precedent has been set in memphis with these five black police officers. >> that's what makes it so different. ben, look, you and i have been together far too many times talking about some hideous case like this, obviously george floyd's brings to mind immediately. and watching those nine minutes with george floyd not getting help. it was a national trauma for all of us. obviously to have to see that video. does the family want this video released? it's going to be another trauma for people. and what do you think is going to happen, been, with the community once it is released? are you afraid that there will be some sort of inflammatory
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response? >> the family wants the video released, like the community, because they believe transparency is paramount, especially if we're going to have accountability and justice and trust. so for those reasons, they do want the video to be released, so hopefully it will be a cautionary tale, alisyn camerota, for any police outside their. we thought after george floyd there would never be a police officer who would try wouldn't rider render aid to some citizen who was in need. and i think this video, when it is released, is going to evoke strong emotions, very strong emotions. and so the family of tyre have asked everybody, if they're gonna protest, to protest peacefully because they have
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talked about tyre being such a peaceful soul. everything about him, his daily routines, skateboarding, going to take pictures of the sunset, going to starbucks for with his regular crowd to drink coffee and talk and fraternize with one another. this was tyre. he was not that criminal or whomever the police thought they were in countering in this organized crime unit. this was a good kid, alisyn, who should not have been killed in this manner. it was so unnecessary how he was killed. that's what is so heartbreaking. >> ben, i was appreciate your time. i always appreciate talking to you. we'll speak again, obviously, of early tomorrow, when we are processing what we're seeing in this video. >> yes, ma'am. thank you. >> so john, you heard ben there
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say that he has likened it the whole time in this video to the rodney king. we all remember those hideous images of kicking -- and he said, tasing, punching, et cetera. and i had not heard this before, that tyre nichols was up against like this over a police cruiser -- and they fall over and they put some upgrade in the falls over, and they put him rate and they were not rendering aid. >> so in memphis they have a lot of the same rules that major cities have, which is the duty to intervene. that means when things have gotten out of control with an officer, or more than one officer, somebody behind them needs to step in to say okay, okay, okay, that's enough. that didn't happen here. the duty to render aid, that means if somebody has, even somebody been fighting with you, is injured, and they are, as the attorney put, it going out of it, that you are supposed to render aid until professional medical help gets there.
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that did not happen there. but the key to it all is, and this is another thing that memphis has been working on his de-escalation. this is when an incident is spinning up, trained, experienced officers are supposed to be able to start to wind it back. that didn't happen. >> and memphis has been working on that? >> memphis is pretty sophisticated in this regard. they invented, back in the 80s, the cia tea, the crisis intervention teams the found new ways to deal with mentally unhinged people in the streets that caused less injuries and less deaths. they have been looking at their own policies and use of force. it's pretty advanced on de-escalation. when the rain -- >> so how do we explain, it john? and tell us about the scorpion group. this was, they call themselves scorpion group, and i'm not sure what that means except that it's lethal -- >> what it's supposed to mean is street crimes operations to
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return peace to our communities. >> that's where the acronym stands for. >> that's what the acronym is. scorpion group is 50 officers that have good records a street officers, who made gun arrests and were aggressive out in the field. it was put together in really the beginning of 2021 because memphis had 346 murders. now new york city that year had 419 murders. the differences, new york city has 8. 6 million people and memphis has 630,000. >> wow. so these guys were gonna go into high crime areas and i don't know, a strikeforce of some kind. >> they were gonna be looking for crimes in progress, looking for criminals, looking for people with guns, and you know, they're operating in plain clothes but they have vests that are clearly marked it's a police. they are in unmarked cars and pickup trucks and dodge chargers and things that and unmarked cars that don't
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necessarily looked like unmarked cars, and they're supposed to be able to spot the crimes in progress, and of course you pick your most aggressive crops for a job like that because you're looking for people who were gonna go out there and engage. but there's also the kind of thing where you need all this additional training and you need supervision, and there is no supervisor among these five. >> we need to know more about that, and obviously went horribly wrong. john, thank you. thank you for all this. it's very helpful to have you here. so next, as tyree nichols mother pleads for peace tonight, we are gonna speak to the pastors who led a candlelight vigil tonight. e, trust safelite. this dad and daughter were driving when they got a crack in their windshield. [smash] >> dad: it's okay. pull over. >> tech: he wouldn't take his car just anywhere... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...so he brought it to safelite. we replaced the windshield and recalibrated their car's advanced safety system, so features like automatic emergency braking will work properly. >> tech: alright, all finished. >> dad: wow, that's great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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>> >> there was a vigil tonight in memphis for the where the family of tyre nichols remembered him and his mother had a message for the community to stay peaceful. then we now are the passers who lead that vigil. reverend -- and reverend dr. andre johnson. i know to call you reverend vicky. so, tell me what the mood was, if you can describe it at the vigil tonight. >> it was thick. it was an atmosphere of pain and hope and love and community. and you could feel. it it was visceral. >> dr. johnson, what's going to happen tomorrow? you have your finger on the pulse of this community. obviously tyre this mother is calling for peace. what will people what will happen when people see this video? >> i really do think that when people first of all when people
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see this video first they're going to be mad and they're gonna get angry and they will be upset and there's gonna be a lot of hurt as reverend kherson just mentioned a lot of pain and there's gonna be some mixed feelings but all in all we are going to stick together and stay together because we are standing with tyre's family, we're standing with each other, and we will come through this. whatever we do we want to remind everybody that there is still much much work to do in the reforms, asking for and pushing for. so we are going to stay together and be together in this community, to do the work that we need to do. >> reverend vicky, it has to be helpful, i imagine for the community that the police department and the district attorney moved so quickly to
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try to begin the process of justice for the family. unlike in so many prior tragic cases that we have seen. and so when you say that you are far from over, what are your demands now? >> so one is reverend vyska and vahisha hasan -- mama row absolutely called for peaceful protest. and the committee organizers and activists, we called for the same call to the police. i never heard the term peaceful policing. so if there's a call for a peaceful protest, there needs to be a call for peaceful policing. so the demands put out by the family are this. they demand the release of the body cam footage, all footage of what may be both incidents, to charge the officers, to name all officers and public personnel, not just their rules and their duties their stations
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but their names they were on the scene and then to release the officers files. this is the call and the demand from the family. >> so, reverend johnson, how is the family? i know that the question is grief-stricken but tonight in every time i see them they have been composed enough and strong enough to talk about peace for the community. >> this, the family, as you can imagine, said, anxious, worried, just crestfallen, but tonight, by the community, they know the community stands with them and stands for them. they understand that this community is embracing them, loving them, and loving on them, and just for a moment, just for a moment, they felt some sense of happiness and contentment, even though it may have been brief. but they felt that from the community and the outpouring of
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love that we shared in the state park tonight. and i am just so honored and privileged that they allowed us to take part and to share their grief and mourn with them as they mourn the loss of their son and loved one. we are all in mourning right now because there could've been any one of us and we are just so grateful they allowed us to share in that with them. >> thank you both for sharing this with us. dr. vahisa hasan and dr. andrew johnson, thank you so much. >> thank you for having us. >> the video of tyre nichols is a wrist is scheduled to be released tomorrow. it's the latest in a string of videos like this. the death of george floyd, daunte wright, philando castile,
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>> once again, a city bracing for the release of violent police body cam footage, five former memphis police officers now facing charges of second degree murder, then the death of tyre nichols, how will the country react when this video was released. 20, now cnn political analyst as the cup, as well as cnn political analyst natasha alford, and jeff gardere. natasha, i admit even as journalist who had to cover it innumerable times, i never made it through the nine minutes of the george floyd the video. i tried, but i couldn't physically make it through, i had to turn it turn away. you can watch this video when it's released tomorrow? >> i reached the point in my life right i want to see black people being murdered anymore. it is essentially a digital lynching. i say lynching, because there is a time in america when people would gather in groups and watched black people be
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killed for enjoyment. but the message to other black people's don't cross that line. don't do whatever falls thing this person was accused of, don't get outside of what you are supposed to do as a black person in this country. so it is a feeling of fear hanging over you. if you are a police officer with a body camera and you still do this, you know you are being reported. what does it mean for the rest of us? it's heartbreaking. >> or you can watch it, jesse s.e.? >> -- syrian genocide. you see things that are awful sometimes and so graphic doesn't make it. here they are. but we have to feel to it. i will watch it to cover it in on the one hand you think, gosh, we should have to reckon with the awful reality of police brutality in this case, school shootings in this case. genocide in another case. but when it comes to mental
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health i can speak personally. these have had a horrible impact on my ability to navigate the real world. and my world, my small world -- and so i would ask viewers at home, who have the luxury of not watching, if you are going to do so do it intentionally, not passively. and know what you are in for and know that especially if you're seen someone that looks like you, where that you can relate to like every kid's my kid. if you're in a community of color, this will have a very cute -- could have a very acute impact on you. i just want people to know that. because he carried around four years. >> i think that is excellent advice, and that brings it to you -- dr. -- there's a national trauma s. e. cupp is getting to hear. there's a national trauma that, when we see it, it leaves its impact on you. >> well, it really does, and it reminds me when we talked about this a little bit of air. till.
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emmett till. the story, why did tills mom want him to be seen in a state that he's in, destroyed in that way. and that is the clear message that this is the reality still in the world, and in america. so if you watch, a storm watch as of lawyer, watch it knowing, what you need to know, and that we cannot be desensitized to these things that are happening all the time, the school shootings, gun violence, and so on. becomes the story for a few minutes, and we move on to the next, one but we should not be moving on from this, because this is about the life of a person, that is gone. horribly. >> and that is what i struggle with, just watching it desensitize us, because we've seen too many of these? or do we have to watch it to understand the full horror of it. i don't know the answer to that. >> it's attention, because for
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some people they never believed, particular early whether by what the black community was saying about police, until they saw the video, but we always knew what was happening. but for those of us again, who know the truth, and we know that this happened too often. how are we supposed to believe that a video makes a difference, when it keeps happening? if there is no systemic change, why are we sort of sitting back and doing this ritual? it's like, only in america do we watched mass shootings, our kids getting killed, police brutality, and we're like that's terrible, and then it happens again and again. >> but remember, also, there are many places in the country where they talk about, there shouldn't be like history, black history, critical race theory -- we need to see the horror of it, so this is a call to arms for peaceful demonstrations, so people can express their horror,
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and make some real changes, when we have the systemic sort of racism. >> you do have just capture the conundrum, right there, that's a conundrum. are we seeing too many of these? are we not seeing it enough? do we want to face the horror? i mean, what they are doing, s.e., in releasing it -- transparent. in other words, they arrested the police officers, they've charged them, they described the appalling, nature of this tape, i'm not sure actually have to see with my own eyes, but i'm going to. so in terms of transparency, i really applaud them for that. >> yeah, and they were quick. and i think they maybe learn from past mistakes about being quick, and on it, and not waiting for public outcry to demand it. >> that's right -- >> if you have to demand it. and it says that you're trying to hide something, so you better put it out there. >> that's right.
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>> friends, thank you very much. so, up next, in the world of politics, there's a new battle tonight over who will take command of the culture wars. we will discuss next. get refunds.com powered by innovation refunds can help your business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too. qualify your business for a big refund in eight minutes.
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>> more culture wars in the classroom, just days after potential presidential hopeful governor ron desantis announced that he would reject an ap african american studies course, former president trump is out with his own education proposals, back with me s. e. cupp, and natasha alford. >> -- any school program, pushing critical race theory, gender ideology, or other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content, on to our children, as the saying goes, personnel is policy, and at the end of the day, if we have pink haired communist teaching our
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kids, we have a major problem -- >> now back with me is s. e. cupp, while. and natasha alford and john avlon. >> i like to scare quotes around education. >> it's on some level funny about this has nothing to do with academics, what he's talking about, he's just gone full scale crt and kitty liner. >> we this widely expands the role of government, and you're, education and the ways public schools operate. so that's just an aside. >> yeah, that train left the station a long time ago. >> but it is red meat for the base, and i believe trump is not wrong that parental rights issues, have become winners for people like glenn youngkin, and ron desantis, it's become a major signature issue for ron desantis, who might be facing trump for the republican nomination.
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so i think he's trying to kneecap him a little bit, by taking on a signature issue and saying, oh go even crazier. >> oh, ron desantis should sue for theft. that was straight out of the ron desantis's playbook. and honestly, former president trump has been paid attention. on his first go, around he talked about when he was running for president the first out, school choice. which was sort of, conservative tenet. no longer. >> look, i think it's very telling -- this is an all opposition strategy, i'm glad you pointed out but actually pulls well, pointed it out. -- local governor camels of iowa just passed, controversial, certainly among democrats but something that is substantive policy wise, and you can use it as a differentiator and maybe even pick up some independents and centrists. this is all playing to the base. it's all about demonization.
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now some folks on the left won't maybe be aware of why it resonate so much. you know, why -- there's a certain element of the activist class that feeds into these narratives and might well be giving a conch retribution to the rnc every day. but it's largely strongman. it has nothing to do with education. it just -- >> but why does it resonate so much? >> well, because i think people are furious at the idea that this ideology and partnership is impacting kids education in the classroom. and this is why these issues -- whether it's crtc, which is not -- that majority of schools, for example. or transports or -- by these politicians. but also you do have democrats like terry mcauliffe saying, parents don't have any words in the classroom. >> and we think politicians should be making more decisions and -- to john's -- point >> -- >> yes, some democrats really feed into this narrative. it does not help the policy argument on either side. >> it's a strategy that works, though, when you frame it as a parent's issue. this goes back to busing. so, this is nothing new.
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this is just part of the playbook. get the parents upset about their rights being taken away -- -- create problems that aren't actual problems in education. i'm a former teacher. >> is that right? >> middle school english. shout out to washington. made lesson plans and all that. and i could tell you, or struggles were poverty in the classroom, need more help with mental health support. however out that? mass shootings in our schools. nothing was serious about this video. and i think that is really the insult to the teachers, the students and the parents. it wasn't a serious policy conversation, i will give you one thing, though teacher pay he alluded to the idea of increasing teacher pay, he base around merit, that's something if you want to change the talent pipeline, let's talk about that everything else was a joke to me. >> but not for the pink haired communist. >> look out, pink haired communist. at >> what school is there a pink hair communist? >> it sounds fabulous. >> on a different level, does
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this mean, s.e. -- he's taking a page from ron desantis because he's afraid ron desantis has -- we understand who said can say i implemented this. >> -- talking about it but i've done it. -- so, preempting him, you can say, i want to do too and i'm gonna do it at a crazy cartoonish federal level that he probably can't even do it at. but i'm gonna sort of outdo him a little bit, which is trump's thing. >> he has a little bit more charisma, videos a little bit more charismatic than desantis. but desantis, as you said, is actually do it, i think that's a scary world. >> it's just a performative nonsense or plain into, for some extent. trump is trying to outdo ron desantis and this is all about playing to the base. and it's not about serious policy. it's not about helping kids. it's not about -- -- here's what really cheeses me off. we have been convinced that we are deeply divided along partisan lines, but things like education, and how american history should be taught. studies have come out showing that there's a massive
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perception gap. this is feedback loop between the far-right in the far left and we are not as divided. but most conservatives are not nearly as far-right as democrats think they are. and -- >> every -- issue >> yeah, but particular and american history in our education. and that really matters because we are a nation that depends on finding common ground on ideas, and our national story. the good, the bad, and the ugly, for our country, but our country uniquely depends on -- that some of these culture wars inflame an artificially divided mesa still more divided than we. our >> but trump voters are -- >> -- >> trump voters are not afraid of something and a bunch of things. then why are they going to vote for trump -- . and he's the savior. he's the only one that can make them feel -- >> okay. friends, thank you for all of the. now check this out, if you would. a man steals a car. but the owner's wife asleep in the back. -- >> a car chase ensues and we have the video right after this. ere's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. but i'm done struggling.
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police said kyle michael wagner, stole a car at a gas station when the driver got out. but the driver's wife is still in the car, sleep and when wagner realized, that he became agitated and started, quote, driving like crazy -- the woman called 9-1-1 and kept the phone on we'll talking to wagner. listen to this. >> now, -- no, no -- i'm not trying to -- you know i'm really scared. you, know you should get back. please, now. >> no, you are not, you are not turning around. >> gosh. police say wagner sped into the opposite lane, reaching 90 miles per hour and that he's a pit maneuver to stop the vehicle. fortunately, the woman was rescued, unharmed. the thief was rescued. and according to a court document, he told police he did not remember everything that happened because he was using fentanyl and methamphetamine. okay, we will be back with a lot more news in just a minute.
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. in a matter of hours memphis officials will release video of what happened when police pulled over 29-year-old terry nichols, last hour i spoke is to ben crump who seen the video and told us what to expect. >> you see the escalation when the beginning when they end counter ty re, shoutin

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