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we have new developments today both sheriff deputies taken off duty in addition to the five cops charged with murder in connection with tyre nichols's fatal encounter with police. with me now is the shelby county district attorney whose department is prosecuting these five cops. thank you for joining us. can you talk to us about your reaction to these sheriff's deputies now? >> i can't really speak about those details because there is an ongoing investigation and a pending prosecution. we know there were two deputies that came on the scene afterwards and they have been relieved of duty pending administrative investigation by the sheriff department. it is important to note that administrative investigation was entirely separate from any investigations that we are doing with the district attorney's office.>> why is a sheriff just now reviewing the video? the statement says having

washed the videotape for the first time tonight i have concerns about the deputies who appeared following the physical confrontation between police and tyre nichols and have launched an internal investigation. are members of the police department just seen the video now? >> he is the elective sheriff of the county, which is separate from the memphis police department. you are correct that the sheriff himself and the sheriff department were not shown the video that the memphis police department had.>> now that the video has been released what is your reaction to when you first saw the video in this encounter with tyre nichols? >> when i first saw this video my reaction was heartbreaking. i was just heartbroken for what happened to him and my thoughts

immediately went to the family of tyre nichols. of course i imagine what it would be like if they had to watch the video themselves. >> each of the former police officers has been charged with aggravated kidnapping, second- degree murder, so how did you arrive at those specific charges? if you look at the videotape was shows you in the videotape that you feel you can prosecute on those specific charges? >> without trying to characterize the video and the pending prosecution i can say that second-degree murder in tennessee requires a knowing killing. that means at a minimum the defendant knew the result of death was certain.

we believe the video and evidence as a whole though so they had to have known at least it was reasonably certain what they were doing could cause death, and although the video indicates that each person acted in a somewhat different way they nonetheless were acting together, and i believe all of their actions contributed to the death of tyre nichols, which is why we are charging all of them with the same charges. i think aggravated assault is obvious but the kidnapping charge is just the fact that i think they described to you earlier regardless of whatever position you take about what the initial stop was legal there came a point in which this was an unlawful detention. that was false imprisonment and confinement without authorization of law. it became aggravated kidnapping when bodily injury occurred and also given the fact they had deadly weapons on them. >> considering this is fairly

new with the release of the video the shares just now seeing it and putting them on administrative leave. do you think the investigation will grow? could there be others charged or involved? >> as i said the day of the press conference when i announce the charges. nothing that we did that day in terms of the existing indictment at all includes us filing other charges later on. >> thank you. i appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. good night. stay warm. >> good eye. thank you. still to come. reaction from the city council member in more on the action being taken against those 2 sheriff's deputies who were on the scene after the beating of tyre nichols. thatat is next. i was a was the competitive

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we are bringing you special live coverage. authority is released video of the fatal beating by police of tyre nichols three weeks ago this weekend. >> in just the last hour or so we have learned that the shelby county sheriff's department has now suspended two deputies who were at the scene after the violence and have launch their own investigation. in addition to the five fired officers who were charged yesterday with second-degree murder for what you see them do on camera to tyre nichols. as we have been doing all evening, we have a warning for you. what you will see is a young man being beaten to death. it is graphic. the language is no less ugly as well .

>> give me your hands. give me your hands. >> what is most notable amongst the brutality is if you're trying to figure out who is calm it appears to be tyre nichols.

it is the officers who have their emotions at 11 or more there and seem to be escalating the situation almost every step of the way. >> it wasn't a server can you show me your license and registration. they went from zero to 100 and less than five seconds or immediately. what we saw was the first video. that was the beginning. as we know, it gets much worse after that we can see they propped him up against a car and he passes out and falls onto the ground. according to the the brain swelling caused him to go in and out of consciousness but we want to get to our developing news. we have more on the news that broken the last hour.

local sheriff the bees are relieved of duty pending an investigation. what is going on? >> for some reason the sheriff who is the sheriff of this town is viewing the video. now realizes he has deputies there and they are now placed on leave as a result of what happened. we are 20 days into this and now we have two more law enforcement officials who are now on leave. we do not know why. they are on paid leave now pending this investigation. the first time we are hearing of these sheriff deputies pure when you look at the video you can see the number of law enforcement officials that show up and don't help tyre nichols as he is laying there beaten clearly severely injured. we have more sheriff's deputies. what is interesting is today we learned these emts were put on

leave. the fire department has not seen the video. now 20 days later they themselves are now launching an investigation to figure out what happened. so much in this town it seemed that is unknown i feel like in the county by officials about the personnel who are on scene. a lot of the information perhaps not being shared. there are still many more it would seem investigations the need to take place so we can figure everything out. >> now you have these members of the sheriff department and the five officers and the two people who are involved from the fire department. according to the da this could grow. >> there is a doj investigation. what will that bring? if they dig into this you're going to see a lot more stuff. >> the video has just been

released so it could be beginning for some people involved. as you know not it is a beginning for at least two sheriff's deputies whose superior had not seen the video and is now putting them on administrative leave. >> i want to pick up brett there. right there. >> what they were talking about right there are these sheriff's deputies put on leave now after the video was released. they were both asking why that would have been. you have some possible answers. >> i will tell you exactly why because the story almost tells itself. you have the elected sheriff of shelby county watching on our air or some other show this video played and realizes for the first time watching this

video on live television that 2 deputy sheriffs from his agency are there on the scene . that triggers a bunch of questions, which is what were they doing on the scene? when did they get there? what part of this did they see or witness or take part in or standby for? do they have an implication in this failure to intervene question? more than any of that is why am i finding out about this by watching it on live television? they should have told the supervisor that thing that everybody was talking about. we heard it on the radio. that should have gone from their surgeon to their lieutenant to the senior deputy to the sheriff himself and the reason he is taking them off patrol is we are going to go through an entire inquiry.

what did you see and when did you see it? what did you do or not do? they will be back on control until he is comfortable with those answers. >> if we could expand this to the suspender shares the present five officers charged with murder. 2 emts on the. as you have seen the video how much bigger do you think this web will extend over the next few days because there are a lot of other people in this video? >> i do not know how much it will extend, but certainly administrative charges for failing to take any action that i believe that will be the next phase internally within the police department. you have to watch the video several times. every time i see it it seems like it gets worse every time, but you also pick up different things that different people are doing. that is what they are doing

now. you have to take your time to go through the tape to determine who was there and what they did or what did they fail to do and then take the appropriate action whether that be criminal or administrative. >> they will piece together everyone who was in the video and get a timeline of it and they will learn more. i want to read you a text to john miller has been getting text like this from people in law enforcement. this is people in the business like you were for decades. the chiefs is what a horrific incident. i just washed it with a room full of appalled and baffled cops. this is coming from people in the business right now who almost can't believe what they have seen. your reaction? >> there are 100,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the country. i guarantee the vast majority of those are watching these videos and reacting the same

way that you and i are and everyone else is on the show tonight. it is absolute vicious savagery. you are seeing things in this video that are not taught in any police academy in the country. as a member of the law enforcement community it is disgusting and embarrassing, and it really drives the entire community down. i think it also speaks loudly to this question of an undercurrent of toxic culture in our community. the law enforcement community that leads to situations like this. you can see from the absolute first minute of the video the response of the traffic stop .

there is no restraint at any level. it is horrific so i understand what you're getting those text. >> he just brought up the first video. the first moment we can see the officers are already incredibly revved up. tyre nichols was not so at all. from a legal perspective as many of us are asking what happened before this? from a legal perspective how much does that matter? >> i think it is troubling for a couple reasons. the first question you are going to ask is why they stopped him in the first place. was it without spaces? just looking to find something? or giving people is the benefit

of the doubt was he engaged in reckless driving? that gives you the ability and basis for the stop, but everything after that has to be legally justified in proper. the other question has to be more for them is tactically speaking i do not even think the experts need to answer that. is it an appropriate way to engage with someone when you are throwing f bombs at them? how about sir we are stopping you. may i see your license and registration. that escalation of it makes it right from the outset into an encounter which is not only dangerous but ends up to be deadly. i think we are going to see an examination of all of that. weather was lawful and legitimate. what was the encounter like? could it have been different? was that necessary with regard to the force used to get them

on the ground or in the initial encounter? we are going to see all of that play out. there is one thing that everyone is agreeing upon. this did not need to happen. you should still be alive in the approach of the police officers was patently deployed. >> i waited to come to you because i want to dig into this a little bit with you. i want to put up a video and get your take on what we are looking at. this is the sky camera from up above. you are going to see in that period where these officers seem to strike him nine times. i believe that is what we are looking at or this might be something else. and you tell us?

>> what are you seeing them doing or not doing? >> this was one of the more troubling parts of the whole thing. i looked at this very carefully and marked the time because there is a time code on the video. the last time he is assaulted or kicked is around 8:33. it is not until 8:41 it looks like a fire truck pull up. nothing happens until 8:55 where somebody actually assesses him. at that point nearly 23 minutes has passed. it is another seven or eight minutes before they bring out a gurney. about half an hour roughly where you have somebody who is critically ill. we know now he

had all of these various injuries and he is really not getting any medical care at all at that point. that was obviously concerning. when you watch the assault. awash this with other medical examiners and we were talking to colleagues all night about this. there are so many mechanisms of injury that he seems to have suffered. he seemed to be coming in and out of consciousness, which could be a sign that he was starting to develop brain swelling. the brain is the only organ in the body that went as well as it has nowhere to go because of the school. that is why they will start to develop a loss of consciousness and ultimately can lead to death. he was also getting kicked in the torso and abdomen and the chest.

there are all of these potential mechanisms. when you are facedown you can have a component of obstructing the airway. we do not know. he was in the hospital for three days essentially. when he went in he was scanned. he has a brain scan and body scan but there is more information about exactly what all the injuries led to based on those other things in the hospital. it was brutal to watch. i am a trauma neurosurgeon and i often see patients come into the hospital after anders, but i have never seen the injuries take place like that. to see that sort of assault. >> i do not know if there is any way of knowing, but the 20 or 30 minutes waiting what kind of a difference could earlier treatment have made? >> you are right.

we do not know. it is tough to say, but he should have been in a hospital right away. that is what we do and hospitals. we take care of patients with injuries. that would have been his best chance. i don't want to speculate that would have somehow definitively changed the outcome because these were terrible injuries. reducing pressure on the brain and making sure the brain does not continue to swell. addressing the bleeding. replacing blood. that is what you do in a trauma hospital, and that is where he should have been.'s been a good point. you do not need the speculation, but he should have been in a hospital. back to memphis. joined by a councilwoman with what her community is going through in the wake of these

videos coming out. also the pastotor of the church were f funeral services will be held nexext week. when we continue.

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this horrible video. it was released earlier so that you could see it. you saw it at noon today, correct? >> yes i did. >> what is your reaction? >> i was saddened, but i knew it would be difficult because i am a mother, and i have a son, and my heart went out to the family and the community and all the families that have lost loved ones to policing that is not favorable. i am just exasperated and that is the truth. >> this has really been tough for us as a city and me personally. is has been tough for our community, and i am getting messages from all over the united states and canada saying do we need to come to memphis to help? what can we do?

do we need to march? what can we do to help? and then i have other messages that say they are not coming to visit memphis anymore and i do not want people to give up on us because we had this one snafu. i do believe that we have good people right here in memphis. we have some great police officers. the ones that i observed today are questionable. >> what needs to happen? because you are in government. you are an elected official to it will:legislation in order to change things. what needs to happen to make sure that people are stop for things like a traffic violation that it does not end with death? >> the first thing that we saw was we have no reason to know why they even stopped him. we watched the video from the camera within the vehicle. they pulled him over. we could not even tell why, but my concern is when you are stopped for any violation for driving it should never even and up with you getting out of the vehicle unless you have a

gun, and we did not see any of that period we did not even see why they stopped him. just stopped and got out and went over to the car and smashed him out of the vehicle. >> do you know of any other issues? >> i have not been aware of any other issues. >> the family says they should be disbanded to the police department says the unit is not the problem. the need the unit in order to fight crime. it is the officers. do you agree with that? >> first of all, we have the information that the scorpion unit was just a unit to help in particular areas. however, we have several others that may need to change. the function of it may need to be the same. we do not know that until we get in and investigate. i know that if we do not start

measuring what we have in our community especially with police when they make mistakes or when they do not do their job or do not follow the rules we need to know that as a community. i would love to see as a legislator a report card on the police and what is going on. not just the numbers. all we get is the numbers but we had 300 some deaths this year. when i get a report i find how many people rob the bank or how many people stole a car that is not what i need to know. the community is demanding that we know what is going on the inside. >> you were talking about the community. you know the crime is high. they are supposed to protect and serve this mostly by community. it was all black officers. >> yes, and that is sad, and let me tell you why. that tells me we do not love

ourselves. that is all i can say about that. we have to treat each other in a manner that is courteous with respect and allows everyone to have some dignity at the end of the day. what i saw on video lacked all three of those. >> thank you. i know you have been standing out here. i appreciate your patience. >> coming up in a moment with more special live coverage. gls without fingersticks. try it for free at freestylelibre.us what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermatologists? it's neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles gooye! ♪

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we're back live with the follows since the video came out . i want to talk more about the broad impact. i am joined by former south carolina democratic state lawmaker. good evening and welcome back. how are you doing? you have been watching this all day. what is up? >> exhausted. i think like most black folks who are watching the events play out in memphis. we have been here before. the three of us have been here before trying to give words to the trauma. trying to give words to the brutality. trying to maintain your emotions and anger and still be

able to explain with some nuanced of the people watching particularly white americans why we have this pain. why this keeps happening and our refusal to oppress these issues. >> when you watch this absolutely disturbing video we can see the officers using excessive force and joking about the whole encounter. i want to play this video.

>> what is your reaction? >> does not sound like professional police officers. i think this is everybody's nightmare. i think as a parent i have got kids that are not dissimilar to him. his mom called him a free- spirited. he is a skateboarder. a starbucks aficionado. he likes to take instagram photographs of sunsets. this is not somebody who is in the life. i have kids that are like that. he is a good kid. he got in a situation and got scared. he is trying to talk these folks down. using yes sir and all right. is trying to calm the cops down and they hit him in the face and with pepper spray. we know what that is. that is a bear repellent.

he panicked. there was no reason for them to have used that level of force against him when he was trying to comply. and then you are in this nightmare scenario. you pray it doesn't happen to your own son or children and so this is very personal for us. we see ourselves in his face and his voice. he was doing what we tell our kids to do. and it didn't work. that is a nightmare for a lot of us. >> you know where he was running. he was running home to his mom, which was running to safety. they caught up with him before he could get there pick in the midst of that he is screaming mom help. he was crying out for help while the officers were raiding him and calling him names and saying as if your mom can hear

you and i am going to time you. >> we have her that before. unfortunately one of the most famous echoes we hear from george floyd but let's be completely and 100% honest. this is something that will not stop happening in this country until people actually come up with a plan. it is not just pouring more money into training. it is not just community policing as we say all the time. not adding more police. there is something fundamentally wrong. it does not matter if you are black or white. the commonality that goes from emmett till all the way to what we saw today back to george floyd and all of the names we can imagine is that the common theme is these black folks did not get the benefit of their

humidity. until they start to see young men as human beings because the way they treated him today or the video we say we sold the way they treated him was less than human. the way the officers beat him. the way they did not even care for him. less than human. the crazy part is if it was me or you it would have been the same way. that is the problem because many times offers an individual's in uniforms do not see us as human. >> they mentioned george floyd and all the way from emmett till and rodney king.

benjamin crump has been comparing this to the 1991 beating of rodney king. you were one of the people arrested at the protest that followed his beating more than 30 years ago. there is a comparison, but i think this stands on its own and does not need that direct comparison. what needs to change now? what needs to be done? >> i think any human system that does not have adequate oversight will tend towards corruption and abuse. that is why we have meat inspectors and building inspectors. not that you hate the construction workers but you know if nobody is giving real oversight eventually the bad ones will take over and ruin everything. you understand the need for real oversight of police. i am proud that they fought and

got the rules changed so that they could expedite justice in a situation like this. they were able to then fire these cops. the problem is in other cities those have not been won. you can see the white officers doing this sort of stuff and they are still on the force a year later and i getting paid. the victory that is to change the rules so they can remove people quickly needs to be spread across the country so people start thinking i am going to lose my job tomorrow. if that does not have and we will see this over and over again. >> you guys know how i feel about you. thank you so much. there is a lot more straightahead. we will talk to the pastor who will be presiding over his funeral as we continue t to process what we have witnenesse tonighght together.

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we want to talk about the funeral services were tyre nichols here in memphis. the reverend j lawrence turner is the church pastor and he joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. as you said, this is a home going ceremony. >> yes. >> it's going to be at your church. you are going to be the officiant here. what are the family's wishes? >> the family has requested -- requests have been very simple. celebrate tyree's life, create a space for healing to begin, and i'm sure with reverend sharpton giving the eulogy, there will be a call for justice and to engage the

continued struggle for the kind of policing in this country that we want to see. >> that they talk to you about how they want him to be remembered? >> not at length. they were in the midst of a number of things. when we spoke, it was on the day the charges were going to be announced, so they were wanting to focus directly on the things i needed from them, so that we could begin to shape the service in a way that would be fitting to their wishes. >> in shaping that service, i would imagine it is having the pulse of what is going on. you said you've been paying attention to the interviews with the family. you've been in touch with them, the interviews with the police department, the police chief. so does that affect anything you are doing? >> this has been a continued experience all this week, in meetings not just with city officials, but also with people who are on the ground, who are activists, leaders in this community and other clergy, wanting to know how we best

navigate our community through this. so as we kind of come to this moment tonight, and witness what was on that video, and repair for the home going celebration, we really want to lean into the healing ministry of the church and the faith community. >> you have been, if i could just be really candid -- we've been talking about humanity and inhumanity, and you believe that some of these interviews, and bringing the cameras here, and allowing people to talk, that it is allowing them to be human. am i getting that right? >> yes. very rarely do we see on television, persons express their emotions, and there are persons who are sitting at home, watching these interviews, who need to know it's okay to feel what they're feeling, to express these things, and so, as i've watched interviews throughout the day, where some people have cried from tyre's parents up to even some of the clergy and city officials who have interviewed on television, i believe it has

been helpful to let people know, it's okay in this moment not to feel okay. but we are going to work through this together. >> it's okay to be human, not to apologize for crying. >> that's right. >> thank you, reverend turner. we appreciate it. thank you for welcoming us here and being so open and candid. when we return, the executive e director of the memphis naacp is going to react to the videos of another brutal beating by another black man byby police i america. makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody.

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we are back now live from memphis, where tonight the city released video showing the deadly police beating of tyre nichols. joining us now is vicki terry, the executive director of the city's branch of the naacp. thank you very much for joining us this evening. when last we spoke we were anticipating the video coming out. it had not come out. you had not seen it. you have since seen the video. what was your reaction to it? >> i was horrified. truly just it brought me to tears. i was just in tears. my stomach was in turmoil, and i just can't imagine what was going through the heads of those officers. >> you talked to us before about changes at the naacp, and quite frankly now i would imagine demanding them, what are those? >> of course they've got to change. they've got to reform, clean house. they've got to do some things differently. some of the things that we are asking them to do as far as police reform, reimagining the police system, those things have got to happen. and we as citizens, and community activists,

politicians, everybody in this city needs to be a part of it. we need to take art and make sure those things happen. >> the naacp is supporting the family? >> of course we are. of course. i was with them today in their press conference, and i told the mom, i said, i will take responsibility of trying to pass this tyre nichols law. that's one thing that i'm going to make sure that i do as far as being involved in political efficacy. >> look, i don't want to get ahead of ourselves, and i'm sure you don't want, either. there were -- everyone was worried that there was going to be violence and rioting, and that sort of thing. we've seen people protest, and that's okay. you encourage peaceful protest. how are you feeling about