only doesn't value our lives, but often actively seeks to wipe us out. you know what this is? this is joy. we could have had a whole show of this. who doesn't want more of this? we need to dismantle, reconceive, and in some cases, defund the systems that target us and refund life, refund liberty, refund the pursuit of all this. go on with your bad self. ♪ >> this is jared steven leone.

he's 18. he's in city hall in beaverton, oregon. and according to him, he's high on mushrooms. so he starts a fight with some cops. they all wrestle, and then jared grabs a cop's gun and shoots it. more cops jump in. it ends up taking seven cops two full minutes to restrain jared, and he makes it out alive. this is white privilege. if that idea bothers you, then let's just call it benefit of the doubt. those cops give jared the benefit of the doubt that his life matters, that his life is worth saving, even when he takes one of their guns and shoots it. now, of course, when you're black, we rarely get that benefit of the doubt. cops murdered laquan mcdonald in less than 30 seconds. cops killed tamir rice in less than two seconds. but jared, he got probation and a fine and just a bump on the forehead. on this episode, we're talking about the difference between two minutes and a few seconds.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> you want to call the police on him for having a barbecue on a sunday at the lake? >> yes. >> you've seen the videos. >> i'm white and i'm hot. >> the last couple of years, they've been sweeping the nation. >> telling the blacks where they belong. >> like a new beyonce album, they drop without warning and are all anybody can talk about for days after. >> i love that she's the self-appointed barbecue police. >> which one's your favorite? >> it's illegal to have a charcoal grill in the park here. >> white lady calls the cops on black dudes for barbecuing in the park. or white lady won't let black person into a pool. >> get out. get out. >> or white lady won't let black person into a pool.

>> i just showed you my key. you're going to take my key out of my hand now. >> i know it sounds like i'm repeating myself, but i'm not. there have been this many black people kicked out of pools since mlk had that dream. but my personal favorite is -- >> illegally selling water without a permit. >> white lady calls the cops on a little black girl for selling water on a hot day. what she's doing there, that's the opposite of white privilege. all of these videos have a few things in common. all the white people get twitter worthy nicknames. the white people harassing the black people end up looking properly ridiculous. and this is the key ingredient. none of the black people end up dead. which is so different than the videos featuring eric garner, philando castile, and so many more. see, before these videos, people like me thought that just recording cell phone footage of cops and people acting like cops doing clearly unjust things would lead to justice. but time and time again, we found out that it doesn't. cops and people acting like cops get away with murdering black people all the time.

so in these new videos, the people aren't just recording and waiting for the cops to show up. they're getting involved. >> do you seriously just call the police on a child? >> fewer bystanders, more upstanders. so in many cases, the cops don't have to get involved. and if they do, sometimes it's just to comfort the snowflakes. >> i'm being harassed. >> it'll be okay, becky. and while the stuff in these videos might be new for some of you white folks, my people have been talking about these stories since that famous boat ride. so this episode, white folks, i'm inviting you to the conversation. welcome to the black people meeting. >> good morning! >> please don't bring your potato salad with the raisins in it. now if we're talking racism, we can do this in any city in the united states. kind of what we do best. but there's one place that's regularly named as the most segregated city in the country. but before you start guessing a bunch of cities below the mason-dixon line, i'll just tell you. milwaukee, wisconsin. see, milwaukee has the most amount of neighborhoods that are clearly defined by race. yep, the home of happy days and harley-davidson is also the home to a whole lot of racism. structural and -- hold up,

another viral video just dropped right in our laps. >> today is supposed to be the haunted park party. we pull up to start setting up. this lady walks right up to me and says, you don't have a permit for this today. i'm going to need you to take this down. so we might have a problem here today. >> that's the white people calling the police again, huh? why do they all call the police when they stand there in a certain stance and they wait on you? >> but this one has an m. night shyamalan twist. we were there just as it was going down. >> so cnn just rolled up. funny how the universe works. if we need cell phone footage, we can use these fancy cnn cameras. >> we need everybody on deck. >> i got a call i got sent out for. do you have an i.d. that i could just put in your name and stuff? >> i never heard of such a thing. they're passing out candy. >> i'm going to have to talk to my supervisor to see what's going on. i appreciate your cooperation. >> hi, my name's kamau bell. we're doing an episode about living while black in milwaukee.

>> it's rough. >> you're in the right spot. >> we stumbled into some living while black. >> what happened? do you mind talking to us first of all? >> sure. >> okay. >> yeah. we've been working this park since 2016. for whatever reason, this lady shows up and tries to tell me i don't have a permit, and then she proceeds to walk over there and call the police. >> she right there, halloween helen. >> halloween helen. >> that's funny. >> man, black folks, we're undefeated. i was like, do we have a name yet? halloween helen, okay, it's already started. are you surprised this would happen? >> absolutely not. growing up in mississippi, i can probably still count on one hand, probably maybe two or three incidents at the most that were racial. here, i was here not even a year, and i had my first racial run-in at 14 or 15. so, if you don't know, you're going to know right away where you're not wanted at or where you're not welcome at. >> wow, we just rolled up. hey, let's see if we can find some living while black. here it is. >> you ain't got to travel too

far. >> now we can get back to why we came to this park in the first place. i came here to speak to reggie jackson. not that one or that one, this one, an historian who don't play games. >> it's sort of crazy we walked over here and walked right into that. >> man, it's amazing. we joke about it and we give it a hashtag, whatever. >> yeah. >> it's not funny, though. >> no, no, no. >> especially here in milwaukee, the relationship between the police department and black people in the city, it's always been a bad relationship. there's been a history of things, incidents of unarmed blacks being killed by the police. even this neighborhood, the sherman park neighborhood, one of the things that happened is seville smith was shot about two blocks away from the gas station. and then later that evening, basically it just got crazy. >> on august 13, 2016, the police shot and killed 23-year-old seville smith. that night, around 100 protesters came to sherman park to be near the site of seville smith's killing, and things got hectic. a local gas station, an auto parts store, and a bank were all

burned down. >> everyone is kind of aware of what happened with the civil unrest, but people don't know what led up to that. that wasn't about seville smith being shot. that was just a precipitating act that led to this explosion. but there were underlying causes that led to people being very upset. so from 1963 until 2015, the city of milwaukee lost 91,000 manufacturing jobs. 91,000 good jobs left. >> yeah. >> but a lot of the manufacturing jobs now are out in the suburbs or even the exurbs, and people don't have access to get out to where those jobs are. and as a result of that, you have high rates of poverty, you have higher rates of crime, you have schools that aren't very effective. and the underlying cause was directly related to the history of segregation in milwaukee. so, you know, we're surrounded by 18 suburbs that surround the city of milwaukee, and 86% of the people who live in those suburbs are white. only 6.4% of black people in milwaukee county live outside of

the city of milwaukee. that's the lowest of any of the most highly segregated cities in the country, especially since 40% of the residents are black. >> hold up. now, a lot of you out there are probably shocked right now because you didn't even know there were black people in milwaukee. but at 40%, milwaukee is blacker than chicago, oakland, and blacker than the city of compton. >> so what you have is a very diverse city, a very diverse city, surrounded by communities that are not diverse at all. when you look at what segregation has done to milwaukee in terms of relationships between the police department and the black community, is that black people feel as if they're surveilled everywhere they go in milwaukee. there's one district where i think blacks make up like 3% of the population in that district, but they make up 67% of the people stopped by police. just look at the incident with milwaukee bucks player sterling brown, who was accosted for parking in a handicapped spot. >> take your hands out of your pockets now!

>> i got stuff in my hand. >> taser, taser, taser! >> you know, there's sort of this idea that you can achieve your way out of these situations. it doesn't matter if you go to college, it doesn't matter if you get a good job, it doesn't matter any of those things. >> right. >> the police will still see you as someone who's up to no good. >> all of these things kind of work together to create a perfect storm in milwaukee. >> i've heard people coming from the south and going, man, milwaukee is more -- like i feel racism deeper in milwaukee than i did in the south. yeah, i often refer to our state as wississippi. >> wississippi. that's good. i don't know if i'm allowed to say that, but that's good. wississippi.

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>> what did they get called for? because there are two black guys sitting here meeting me? >> yes. >> one of the biggest viral videos from 2018 is from a philadelphia starbucks, where a manager called the cops on two black men that were waiting for their business partner to arrive. >> what did they do? someone tell me what they did. >> they didn't do anything. i saw the entire thing. >> now, you might have been shocked when you first heard about this, but i wasn't, because i also have some experience of a coffee shop not wanting me to be in their coffee shop. >> kamau came here to the elmwood cafe in berkeley. he met up with his wife, who was sitting at an outdoor table. he says he was showing her a book when an employee knocked on the window and told him to go away. >> i went straight to the internet and told everyone.

after those things happened, i think a lot about where i get my coffee. and in milwaukee, there's a place that if i get kicked out, i know it won't be because of the color of my skin. it'll be because of the content of my character. coffee makes you black is a black-owned coffee shop that serves coffee to black people and people who are nervous being near black people. >> milwaukee in the '60s was the 11th largest city in the united states. >> really? >> yeah. isn't that strange? >> this is sarita mcfadden, a milwaukee native, writer, and new york city english professor. and she knows all about the racial history of this city. >> people believe that black people moved out of the south to escape racism. and then they moved to these northern cities where there was no racism. >> there was so much racism. >> yeah, exactly. >> it's hilarisad, if i can -- >> hilarisad? >> i'm like, i don't know if that can be a word, but it means to me. >> i don't think i've ever heard that, but i knew exactly what you meant.

or sadlarious. >> sadlarious. >> yeah. >> the north, or definitely the middle west north, buys into this narrative that they are somehow far more superior in terms of character and tolerance. you know, we call it, what, midwest nice? >> yeah, see, i was going to say that. yeah. >> but there's this veneer of, like, i'm not in my heart racist. but you're doing [bleep] that's racist af. let's just go with why this city has the shape that it does. all right, so this map is from 1937. it's what they call a security map, but, like, it's in common parlance, we can call it a redlining map. >> ok. >> it was a series of maps that were produced by the federal government. they did these surveys and kind of like neighborhood appraisals to determine where they would actually issue home loans. the green areas are, like, good loans. the red is basically areas that they say are on a decline and are blighted. everybody black pretty much concentrated in this area. they made a distinction about where the black people live. no other ethnic group. you mean to say that the very

existence of blackness will devalue this space. therefore, blackness should be prohibited from being in this space. that is what you're saying. it's by design. this was intentional. so we can point to a legacy of, like, systemic inequality. >> when you see this on a map like this, racism is not just, like, a feeling. it's also an institutional structure. >> so after more than three seasons of this show, this seems like as good a time as any to define the word racism. in my experience, most people define racism as simply hating someone based on their skin color. occasionally, i use that definition, too. >> i have black relatives who are racist. >> but every anti-racist activist and academic that i know believes that hating someone or just treating someone poorly because of their skin color, that's just prejudice. to get to racism -- >> being racist is not just prejudice. it's prejudice plus power. >> think of prejudice as just one cop. but racism is the entire police department that has that cop's back.

if an individual banker doesn't give a black person a home loan, that might be prejudice. but if that banker has the tacit approval of the bank, well, that is racism at work. and in america, racism gets a lot of work. it's embedded in all the structures and institutions of this country because of how this country was founded. and it's why you can't just hire black people into racist institutions and expect the institution to not be racist anymore. and in white people, if that's making your head swim right now, imagine all of that going through your head every time you apply for a job, talk to a police officer, or walk outside. >> no offense to my white crew members. here's the problem with white people. except for these one, two, three, four, five. yeah, five, yeah. he's from alabama, so i don't even think of him as being white. as a black man, every video of michael brown, eric garner, philando castile, i'm seeing myself in that. even if i've never been in that situation. so when eric garner is on the ground being choked out by cops

and saying, i can't breathe, and i find out he has asthma, and people say he's a 6'4 black man with asthma, i'm like, i'm a 6'4 black man with asthma. white people don't see white people in these videos and see themselves. we've had enough of these videos now of white, you know, white women, that you feel like you must have seen the other videos. like, you would think in that moment you'd be like, wait a minute, am i about to get a hashtag with a name that's not mine? >> no, they don't. white people always see groups with people of color, and they see individuals with white people. that's just their mo. but it's nice to see that these stories are aggregated because that kind of behavior, particularly white folks calling, like, you know, i believe that this black body does not belong in this coded white space. therefore, i feel threatened. and i know that i have the agency to call some sort of authority figure to correct that. >> or even i have the authority, the agency to be the authority figure. >> and that is how it feels to be in milwaukee. >> everything me and sarita talked about may seem impossible and too big to dismantle. but there's actually a workshop across town that's trying to do just that.

complete with powerpoint. >> we're defining anti-blackness as the distance between black people and your, your acceptance of their dignity. >> it's put on by university of milwaukee, wisconsin, professor monique liston. >> so today's workshop is focused on understanding dignity and anti-blackness. and so we focus on understanding dignity as sort of our responsibility to interrupt systems of oppression. dignity resonates with folks so deeply because we're talking about every single individual can talk about how their dignity hasn't been affirmed. and this is sort of a deepening, a practical application of how do we connect on the human level. >> it seems like this work is really important in cities that are going through what the real estate people and the politicians call a renaissance. >> yeah. >> and i was just going through the milwaukee downtown and you can see construction around it. i'm sure formerly that was just like buildings or warehouses or whatever. it's like, oh, this is going to be like high end real estate. and that changes literally the complexion of the city. >> yeah, i think as milwaukee gains this kind of reputation of being a place for young

professionals to be, it's like you have to understand what you're coming into. it's good for white, young, upper class, educated professionals. it's not good for everybody else. and so what does it mean for us to actually be in a position to interrupt it? what does it mean to be in a position to say, i have this privilege, i have this power, i know-how, i run in these circles. we got to change something about this city. >> so you're like, maybe i need to turn this into a workshop. so talk a little bit more about the history. >> yeah. so there's a couple of steps. so i entered grad school and i was in the classroom space and i'm like, y'all got me messed up. y'all got black people messed up. like you're not thinking about what it means to be black in this city. and you're getting the same degree as me. you'll be credentialed and you don't even know how to treat black people. and that's kind of the impetus of this. >> so did you get your ph.d.? >> yes. >> oh, so i should call you doctor? >> i mean, you know. >> my wife has a ph.d. so i know that's a real serious thing. so she makes me call her doctor around the house. >> oh, see. i mean, i'm not going to fight.

>> so when these workshops happen, sort of anti-blackness workshops, it feels like it's either black people showing up who are kind of like, yeah, i already know this. you know what i mean? or it's like white people showing up who are like, oh, my god, i never had any of these thoughts. and it feels like if those people are living together, one of them is not being served sometimes. you know what i mean? >> what we've learned is that a lot of the issues of other intersections of oppression become more real here. so we focus on race. yeah, you can bring up that white people are problematic. but while we're talking about anti-blackness, black people play into that, too. even you. >> oh, yeah. >> so what does that mean in this space? >> okay, and just for the record, as i came in here, one of the producers told me that you're related to sunny liston. i'm pretty proud of myself that i didn't ask any sunny liston questions. >> oh, yeah, that's my great uncle. >> yeah, that's cool. i'm not going to ask any questions because that's not what we're here to talk about. >> ok, well, i represent, though. >> i like that. ..

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>> one of the things i've always heard about milwaukee is that it's a city where people are from, meaning that if you're from here and got something going on or if you want to get something going on, you head to chicago or new york or anywhere, not milwaukee. according to a study by the university of wisconsin, madison, the state lost an average of 14,000 college graduates per year between 2008 and 2012.

that's called brain drain. brain drain hurts milwaukee's ability to innovate or even grow economically over the years. but there are those people who are doing their part to try to keep all the brains here. people like lisa caesar, a harvard educated entrepreneur, and her brother, john ridley, a hollywood writer, director and producer with a packed resume, who's mostly known for winning an oscar for writing this. >> do you believe, sir, in justice, as you said? >> i do. >> slavery is an evil that should befall none. >> the feel good movie of the summer. >> the things that i had to learn about slavery to even begin to execute 12 years is that there is a system that's put in place that becomes mass psychosis. >> right. >> because to make it work, you have to get so many people involved in it. and that's the thing that hurts the most is that we see it still happening. >> they grew up in milwaukee, but like many people, they left for careers in new york and los angeles. but now they've come home and

converted part of a defunct brewery that closed over 20 years ago into no studios, an artist collective that takes people's dreams of show business and shows how they can be a reality. >> i just remember as a kid, you know, to be a young black guy in milwaukee thinking about, well, i want to be a writer. i want to be an artist, i want to work in film, and it just seemed like a million miles away. and then, you know, 30 years later, to actually accomplish those things and realize that there are other young kids, you know, black, hispanic, asian, gay, straight, queer, whatever, who are feeling that same thing. there are people who could actually do the things that they love, but do it from milwaukee. >> do it from milwaukee without having to, oh, i have a little bit of talent. i better get out of here as quickly as possible. >> what if we were to embrace all of that talent instead of systematically suppressing it? >> you know, we grew up in mequon. it's a suburb of milwaukee, not exactly in milwaukee. there were no black folks where we grew up, virtually none.

>> even when we moved into that neighborhood, as few black people that were in mequon, we all lived on that block. >> yeah. >> we all lived on that block. >> that block was the black section. >> and they called it -- you know, kids there, back in the day, they'd call it inward row. >> yeah. >> you always had the sense that you were, you know, treated as not quite american, you know, not quite as american as everyone else. when you're a child, you begin to internalize that. >> and trust me, we had it good by comparison. >> yeah. >> our father was a practicing doctor here for a long time. our mother was a teacher. he is a serviceman. he volunteered, you know, and he was in the air force. and he just tells a story about coming up to milwaukee and stopping in a restaurant. and when he came back out of the car, it was with our mom. you were a baby and he had you in arms. and he was just accosted by this gang of young white kids. and he thought if he didn't have

you in his arms as a baby, that they would have beaten him and beaten my mother. he talks about when he got a house, you know, on the phone, it was like all good. and then he would go to check on the house and they're like, who's moving in here? >> yeah. >> and he would talk often, you know, that he would end up on this board and he was like, well, i'm the first black man who was on this board. and i was the first black man as part of this committee. and he wasn't saying in a bragging way, he was just talking about his experiences. and i was like, wow, isn't that amazing that you did that? he says, it wasn't amazing, but when you're black and particularly black in milwaukee, if you did something, you became that first person, you led by example. >> yeah. >> we are a byproduct of our parents. our parents fought. they stood up. and i think the thing that we wanted to do was just create a space and let people know that it's not -- these things aren't accidental. so part of what we want to do is make people realize you can be comfortable with anybody. what are the things that we have in common? what are the things that we enjoy? you've got to get people working together. >> yeah. >> and that's really the thing. >> i like this.

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>> next, we're going to switch it up a little bit. instead of a black people meeting, we're going to have a people of color meeting. but this episode's been hard. i'll have some fun at bounce milwaukee before we get back into it. i'm meeting with student activists alona, cindy, leticia, joya, dakota and kaya. they're part of leaders igniting transformation or lit for short, which takes on issues of race in milwaukee's education system. >> down goes frazier. down goes frazier. >> after i passed the concussion protocol and took a hit from my buffer, it was time for the people of color meeting. >> i think our organization is filling a need that combines black and brown young people. and that's the need i think we feel in milwaukee, is bringing together young people to not only like make our city better, but hopefully ease racial

tensions amongst people of color. >> and in milwaukee, it's a big deal. >> very big deal. very big deal. >> something that i love about lit is that we're all people of color, people in public education. we want to bring black and brown youth together, but they have white staff. how are you going to do that? we need to throw the whole thing away and start all over. >> and when you say the whole thing, what's the thing? >> the whole concept of public education. >> okay, all right, okay. >> tearing it down might not be a bad idea. last year, lit and the center for popular democracy released a report that showed milwaukee's black high school students made up 53% of the student body, but accounted for 80% of the over 10,000 suspensions during the 2015-2016 school year. that's double the national rate. and not only that, more than 100 black students were expelled for things white students were just suspended over. worst of all, students of color were nearly 85% of students turned over to the police.

that's the school-to-prison pipeline in action. and while the system is obviously racist, often what affects students more is the subtle ways in which educators cross their boundaries when it comes to race. >> last year, we had to pick an organization to work with for the semester, and my teacher told me that she wanted me to help out a foster home. and i was like, oh, why? and she was like, oh, don't you come for foster care? >> wow. >> and i was like -- and i asked her, i said, where'd you get that from? she was like, well, i just -- and i was like, you just what? >> i got it from racism? i just got it -- >> it's almost like what she was just talking about. actually, this just happened this year. it was actually wacky tacky wednesday. >> i already know where you're going. it's all right. >> i was all crazy. my hair was crazy. and it was all in these, like, ponytails and stuff. and so one of the faculty came into my classroom to give me, like, this college letter or something. but then she continues to say, you know what you remind me of?

a picaninny doll. i didn't know what it was, so i went to google. so i googled what i thought what, like, how it was spelled. >> what she said, yeah. >> and she said, no, that's not how you spell it. and she retyped it in and searched it. >> she called you, then. >> let me direct you more effectively to the racism. >> yeah. >> this is what a picaninny doll looks like. and nope, she doesn't look like one. because nobody does. >> if i gave you all the power over time and space and harry potter magic or whatever you want, what would you do to fix these problems? >> i was thinking, like, when you meet someone, you see a glimpse of their past. it would, like, make us, like, take a step back and then think about what we're -- >> i like that one. >> yeah, no, that's good, yeah. >> that was deep, deep. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> so admit it, you knew it was only a matter of time before we talked about the criminal justice system. and milwaukee has black folks so caught up in the system that it has the most incarcerated zip code in the country. with 62% of the black men there in prison by 34 years old, 62%. and in milwaukee county as a

whole, more than half of all black men in their 30s and early 40s have at some point been behind bars. this pipeline to prison can partly be traced to the milwaukee police department's stop and frisk policy. luckily, the wisconsin chapter of the aclu took notice, sued the city, and won the case. i'm meeting with some of the plaintiffs, gregory chambers, stephen jansen, and wisconsin state representative david crowley, along with their aclu rep, jared english, at the wisconsin black historical society. >> there's sort of a general perception of the midwest, specifically with wisconsin, that black people don't live here. >> is that it? have you heard that? >> i hear it everywhere i go. i went to new york, and when i told people that i was from wisconsin, they literally had their eyes wide open. >> what part of wisconsin? do you guys really have cows? i'm like, ain't no cows in milwaukee, bro. >> this black people meeting is kind of an inside job. see, i'm the aclu celebrity ambassador for racial justice, and i had the same reaction you just had. i'm a celebrity? >> so talk about why the aclu

gets involved in this, and specifically around including stories that aren't about black people being killed by cops. therefore, they're harder to tell and harder for people to understand the racism. >> it's absolutely, completely pervasive, and not just in cities like milwaukee, but especially milwaukee, but other cities as well. and so what we ended up finding out, with the city of milwaukee, milwaukee police department's own data, we found that they stopped something like 350,000 people unconstitutionally. >> wow. >> the numbers are ridiculous, but what's harder to measure is the emotional toll when you're not doing anything wrong, and you could end up dead for nothing. listen to steven, who was walking home from class and randomly accused of marijuana possession. >> i said, well, i don't smoke marijuana, and he just kind of stopped and just stared at me. it was kind of in that moment where you realize, if something happens to you, if you make any sudden movements, you could be on the pavement. it's his word against nobody's. >> so what if he did smell like weed? >> right. >> he didn't smell like a bank

robbery, you know what i mean? >> and then there's the state rep, who was just trying to avoid walking through an area where gunshots were heard. >> because if i was a white man walking through that field, i guarantee you, i probably wouldn't have been stopped. maybe asked if you're all right. >> yeah. >> maybe giving you a ride home. >> it was a sunday afternoon, and i was driving home, and i noticed that there was a squad car behind me. sirens went off. i rolled down the window. both officers get out the car, and they approach. basically told me that, for whatever reason, my plates didn't match the car. so the cop that was on the driver's side goes, checks my information, takes my id. the other cop is still staring in the car. he starts playing with his holster on his gun. now, mind you, this is just fresh after sterling brown was murdered and philando castile was killed in the car, right in front of his girlfriend and his child. and i keep telling myself, don't say anything.

don't get enraged, don't get mad, because it could all turn bad. finally, the cop does come back, the other officer. he's like, well, everything seems to be checked out. i'm like, ok, that's cool. they walk away, get in the car, and i literally turned around to wait for them to pull off. the rage and anger that i immediately felt in that moment, you know, to know that your life can be on a thread like that. it's a fine line, and to them it's just like a snip, and that's it. >> there are people who are going to hear you tell that story and go, what's the big deal? nothing happened. you know what i mean? why are you so angry? >> yeah, and i think that's the crazy part. i mean, i remember telling that story to people, and it was like, you see a scary movie, and the killer is toying with his victim. you know, twisting life around as he has his victim gagged. imagine having somebody who has a weapon right in front of you and they are toying with the very thing that has been

responsible for the neutralization of people's lives. if you don't see the fear in that, i don't know what else to tell you. >> yeah, yeah. >> one lady, one white woman came in and she actually said, do you get tired of having these conversations as a black man? and it's like, you know what? yes. but at the same time, understand that this the only way that i'm gonna make sure that my children see something different. right. we are the ones who've got to come up with the solution. we are the solution to this. and understanding that we just need some partners. >> that's why we did this. it was entirely about changing, changing the community, changing the way that policing takes place. >> but also the george soros money you're being paid to do this, right? you all got the soros check, right? ok, i haven't got mine either. i keep trying to find somebody who got that soros check.

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talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. >> while the aclu plaintiff stories weren't violent, those men stood up because they know that those same situations can end up in violence. take the story of maria hamilton's son, dontre. >> i feel his spirit here. i very seldom go to the cemetery because dontre's blood and life

is in this park. >> in 2014, the manager of this starbucks called the police on 31-year-old dontre, who was waiting for his brother on a park bench. >> the police were actually called on three occasions. the first time they went and spoke with him, they came to the conclusion that he wasn't doing anything wrong, he wasn't bothering anybody, and so they left. >> unsatisfied with the response to her calls, the manager called a personal friend on the force to the scene, officer christopher manny. officer manny confronted dontre, who was unarmed and hadn't been bothering anybody. >> he stood over dontre's head. dontre was startled, jumped up, and he tried to do an illegal pat down, and dontre resisted. >> officer manny unloaded 14 bullets into dontre, killing him. and again, dontre hadn't been bothering anyone, even according

to other cops who'd been at the scene. >> and his life was taken for that because of a manager at starbucks profiling him as a homeless man and felt as though his presence stopped them from making money. warranted 14 bullets in broad daylight, unimaginable . >> following the shooting, the milwaukee police said that dontre had a prior history of arrests, and they claim that the arrests were directly connected to dontre's mental health issues. >> was any of that -- >> none of it was true. >> none of it was true. >> dontre hadn't robbed nobody. but dontre, in 2016, was diagnosed with paranoid

schizophrenia, and dontre never tried to hurt anybody. >> there's an assumption that everybody with mental health issues can turn violent. >> yep, that they're violent. >> that's not the case, overwhelmingly. >> no, it's not. >> the bigger question here is, why are the cops the first responders to so many things that don't involve crime? too often, the presence of police criminalizes people who may just be hanging out on a park bench or just having a bad day or may just be in crisis. in 2017, mental illness was a factor in 25% of police shootings. >> this was a couple of weeks before he died. >> wow. you know, the thing i noticed in all these pictures, he's smiling. >> that was his uniqueness. >> yeah. >> dontre smiled all the time, and when his life was taken from us, we didn't know what to do. us, we didn't know what to do. >> adding to maria's grief, the police didn't even file criminal charges against officer manny. they said that his use of deadly

force, 14 shots into dontre, was justifiable. we've heard that way too many times before. >> it was like, am i in a movie? and my fight, even to this day, is the truth. all i ever wanted was the truth. so i was pulled into a fight trying to get the truth. >> whenever a black youth or a black person is murdered by a police officer, often we see the moms step up. >> if we don't save our babies, they're not going to save us. >> maria and the mothers of eric garner, trayvon martin, jordan davis, michael brown, hadiyah pendleton, sandra bland, and tamir rice have joined forces and formed mothers of the movement to support each other and to fight for police reform. maria has also started her own group, mothers for justice united, to support all of the moms whose families have been devastated by police violence. it's an indictment of our entire country that we even need these

groups. >> i wish you didn't have to do that work, and i wish you didn't feel compelled to do that work, but i thank you for doing that work. >> thank you. whoever's voice i have to be, i will be that voice until their parents or their loved ones are strong enough to fight for them. >> well, thank you.

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from the videos to the conversation so far, it's clear that at the heart of all these issues is prejudice, but more specifically, racial bias. and while some of you out there may point to extreme examples like the klan or the alt-right and say, hey, that's not me, pal, i got some bad news. everybody acts on their racial biases all the time without even thinking about it. we just don't all have racism to back us up. acting on your racial bias if you don't realize it is called implicit bias. implicit bias is like a white lady in the park seeing a person of color and immediately seeing a threat or a criminal and not giving that person the benefit of the doubt as a human who likes to barbecue and might have some extra, if you're friendly. >> you know, a lot of the research out there is focused on sort of racial attitudes and ask people on surveys, are you racist? and people basically say no. >> 100% of people aren't racist. >> right. >> so i'm having one last black people meeting with university of wisconsin-madison professor john diamond, an expert on the subject. >> i was not familiar with the term implicit bias until about

four years ago. >> okay. >> because something happened to me and it was later described to me as implicit bias. i was just calling it racism. >> right. >> can you talk about what that means and even where that comes from? >> yeah. so marjorie benaji and tony greenwald established project implicit about 20 years ago. so what they were trying to figure out is what's going on in people's minds before they're able to think about what's the socially responsible answer. right. and so the way to think about implicit bias is you don't have to necessarily dislike people of other races to be affected by it. right. it's in everything that you do. somebody walks through a door and it's a man, you have some assumptions about what that means. and we've also been conditioned to not talk about it. right. >> researchers from harvard and the university of virginia have created a test that can measure a person's implicit bias. the idea being that if we can measure it, maybe we can dismantle it. >> and what they find is that people have a hard time associating good characteristics with black faces. >> is that everybody?

>> it's about 80% of white people. >> yeah. and what about for black people? >> for black people, we're less likely to favor white people, but we still tend to favor white people slightly. right? and so, the challenge is thinking about not just what people's intentions are, but # like, how do you grow up in a world where white supremacy is sort of embedded in everything and you breathe it in in a way that gets into your subconscious? >> so there's a test, right? >> there is. >> i mean, i feel like i'm pretty hip to this stuff. is it smarter than me, i guess -- >> yeah, the way that it's set up, i think it is. >> okay. >> now we answer the question many of you had for more than three seasons. how racist is kamau? i would accept an invitation to a new year's eve party given by a white couple in their home. if i didn't do that, i wouldn't be able to hang out with my in-laws. so i would say strongly agree. the first part of the test is situational questions around race that aren't yes or no. you have to pick the level to which you agree or disagree. >> most likely, you can't be trusted to be honest with black people.

let's cover this from cnn's eyes. i don't mean my bosses at cnn. you guys are great with black tv hosts. the second part of the test is a little more tricky. i had to quickly pick black and white faces and decide if certain words are good or bad. just so we're clear, this is what the test looks like. you can find it here. but this is what the test feels like. >> i don't like this. i don't like this at all. >> your data suggests a moderate automatic preference for african americans over europeans. oh. moderate preference for black people. that's my brand. whether you agree with what the results were, it's the conversations they have after the results. >> what does it mean? what are the implications of that? and it does mean stuff. and you connect it to, you know,

how people react in school, discipline, policing, all those things. it matters. >> i think we'll make everybody on the crew take it. i already know who on the crew is going to have a strong preference for black people. what's up, dwayne? >> this week in milwaukee has featured a bunch of great black people meetings and one people of color meeting. and hopefully gives you white people out there a sense of what we're going through and what people of color talk about regularly. and even though the show's coming to an end, this week, we all have a homework assignment. go and take the implicit bias test, because whether you think you're biased or not, racism is a part of your life with or without you knowing it. but if we measure it, hopefully we can dismantle it. and white folks, if you don't think about your own bias, then there's a chance you're going to end up in one of those videos harassing people who don't deserve it. or even worse, getting someone killed. because we ain't all jared steven leone. >> announcer: the followin