by failing to craft bills to stop police brutality, the blood of black america is on your hands. so stand up and do something. >> good morning, everyone. we're still covering the fallout from what happened in memphis days later. it's going to go on. >> part of that is increased pressure on washington, what she is just saying there. >> and there should, right? washington needs too act. thank you for joining us. so has this happened before in the memphis police department street crimes unit coming under scrutiny after the savage and deadly beating of tyre nichols. there are grows calls for police

reorganization. we'll talk to the mayor and plus this. >> that is violence, serious violence escalating between israel and palestinians. and a mysterious drone strike against iran stoking tension in the region as america's top diplomat heads to jerusalem in the thick of it. facing a major test as this situation continues. a bombastic warning from a top u.s. general who is predicting war with china potentially. >> we're going to start though with the memphis police department permanently shutting down the scorpion unit after the savage and deadly beating of tyre nichols. the special unit is once celebrated for cracking down on high crime areas. it is now coming under intense scrutiny. the big question is was tyre nichols the only one? or did other people also suffer

brutal treatment? you're going to stay on top of this. it has a very -- as i understand it, sketchy track record. >> well, we're hearing that certainly from people in the community. you were there. people would come up to us wanting to talk to us about this scorpion unit. of course, the scorpion unit. we should remind people, the name this name is even getting so much scrutiny. why you would use a name like scorpion? what it substance for is street crimes operations to restore peace in our neighborhood. and the mayor was touting this, you know, that's crime fighting tool. they saw a large number of arrests in just two months from the time it was created until january and november 2021 is when it was created. and they saw nearly 566 arrests. that's a lot of arrests. >> created because there was a high crime rate and they wanted to tamp down on it, especially

coming out of covid and the lockdown and a lot of that. cities saw rises in crime and they wanted to tamp down. they started the scorpion unit in 2021. >> right. gang problems. the one thing i keep hearing from people is auto theft is a big thing. break ins, burglaries. that's what this unit is created to do, to try to -- you know, so people can feel safe and live safely. obviously, the aggressive tactics are now coming into focus. >> let's move forward in the investigation now. more chorarges coming from the officers? >> the district attorney there has not said that -- has not ruled that ouchlt he said that say possibility. when you look at the video, because so many of the officers are just standing around. since george floyd and the aftermath of that, one of the things that memphis did and the police department did was that there is a duty to intervene. and because of that, perhaps other officers when you see them standing around that there is a chance that other officers could face charges. >> how are they dealing with this around the country? how is it affecting police

reform? >> a lot of people want to see more reform and feel this is a blueprint. a blueprint in the sense that the way the police chief handled this in the immediate aftermath within a week or so, two weeks firing these officers, the district attorney moving so quickly to bring charges and then the release of the video. but they want to use this as the blueprint in disciplining officers and getting rid of bad officers quicker. a lot of police departments have issues because of unions and municipalities and laws and rules that prevent the firing of officers so quickly. but now they want to use this as a potentially a catalyst for change. >> i'm so glad you're staying on top of this. thank you. straight ahead this morning, perfect person to discuss all of this, we'll to the former police captain and current mayor of new york city, eric adams. also tyre nichols's parents are in washington next week when president biden delivers his state of the union address after they were invited. chairman said he reached out to

the family to let them know they stand with them and honor the legacy of their son. he is also hoping that president will address police accountability and criminal justice in his remarks now. i'm told that their presence means that they will have to do so. >> some legal experts are asking if the second-degree murder charges against those officers who beat tyre nichols will meet the bar for a successful prosecution after officials released the video of his beating, cnn host was also an attorney tweeted this, gut reaction, hard to watch. tragic, sad, unnecessary, excessive, yes. but deserving of second-degree murder knowing the killing of another based only on what i've just seen, no. he defended his position on his show this weekend. watch. >> if my thumbs failed me, it's that i didn't make a clear legal distinction that i was seeking.

what i was saying is this i wasn't saying that they hadn't killed tyre nichols. sadly, they did. i was trying to say their actions seen on tape might not fit the legal standard for second-degree murder. >> so let's talk about all of this with the assistant professor of law at brooklyn law school. it's great to you have. >> likewise. >> so what he is arguing here is that to meet successfully prosecute on second-degree murder, you need knowing intent. you need intent. >> exactly. >> you make a really interesting point that a first-degree murder but felony murder charge may have held up better. why? >> well, so for first-degree murder felony murder, a murder happens in conjunction with an underlying felony. and here every single charge that the memphis district attorney charged these five individuals with were felonies. the underlying felony that

supports a felony murder is kidnapping. >> and a kidnapping charge stood out to me. that seems unusual. what is your sense? aggravated kidnapping. what is your sense of that? >> exactly. actually two counts of aggravated kidnapping. one count has to do with the fact that a weapon was involved. deadly weapon which is a baton. and the other count had to do with the fact that there was serious bodily injury endured by mr. nichols. and so what is unusual about a kidnapping charge in a confrontation with law enforcement officials? we obviously deputize law enforcement officials to make seizures, arrests. but at this point, their initially would have been legitimate behavior crossed the line into illegitimacy during that initial traffic stop which again the memphis police chief, c.j. davis, said there is no evidence that was a lawful stop even to begin with. >> yeah. >> even the attorneys for the police officers, they believe at

least the two that i spoke to, they believe that is overcharged. and that is going to be hard to prove. because you have to knowingly -- you have to know that your actions are going kill someone. and they don't believe that officers knew that. >> yeah. so it's difficult. every criminal charge there is going to be some sort of gray area. this is an adversarial system we have. those are the statements i want to hear from the defense counsel in this situation. but in terms of second-degree murder, here under tennessee law, which is where i was originally licensed to practice, was that it takes an awareness that there is a sort of just likelihood, right, that you are reasonably certain that your conduct would result in somebody's death. there are facts that would have communicated to the officers that they should have known what they were doing would have resulted in mr. nichols death. his arms your pinned and striking him repeatedly in the

head with their boots and with a baton. those are both deadly weapons. and this idea that they had to have knowledge -- that's what we require. so every criminal act requires a guilty act and a guilty mind. >> blake ballon, is that one of the attorneys? >> yes. >> you will know this better than i. i think it is interesting in the statement he talked about his client desmond mills who said he arrives to the scene later and says we're confident and according to the lawyer, pepper spray in his eyes by someone from his own -- >> from one of the other officers. he said that we're confident the questions of whether desmond crossed the lines that are crossed and whether he committed the crimes charged will be answered with a resounding no. there is this question of you've got five officers charged with the same thing. but -- >> exactly.

so steve mullroy, the brand new district attorney was brought in last fall. so what is interesting and perhaps unusual about the charges here is that all five officers are alleged to be equally cull taculpable. they all receive the identical seven charges. will all fell on felony counts. it will be interesting to see what happens if this case moves forward. if it does go to trial if, the strategy is to separate the cases. >> if it does go to trial. >> exactly. >> i think you're asking -- you're saying -- >> if it does go to trial? >> exactly. >> so the reality, and this is what i tell my student in criminal procedure, we talk about trials. the reality is over 95% of cased in the state system settle and even higher percent in the federal context. and there will be concurrent, rather, consecutive one after the other federal charges

brought here. >> fascinating. thank you. especially since you practiced there as well. >> yeah. about a decade. >> thank you, very, very much alexis. police in new jersey are sfrpi s searching for a man that flew a molotov cocktail at this jewish synagogue. they also pous a preschool and k-12 religious school. police provided this image of the suspect with his face covered. there it is right. there nearby police say they will increase patrols of area temples. minutes from now secretary of state anthony blank inis going to arrive in tel aviv. part of the several day visit to the middle east. his trip is am coming with new urgency after this wave of deadly violence that we've seen happening in recent days between israelis and palestinians in the west bank. blink season meeting with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu who is back in office and jerusalem later today. at a time when the united states

has concerns over the new conservative government that is now in power and includes the ultra nationalists and ultra religious parties. earlier today, blinken was in cairo meeting with the egyptian president and foreign minister there. he was talking about all of. this we should put this in context. all this is coming as we're also learning in recent days about a u.s. air force general who is predicting that the u.s. and china will go to war in 2025. "the washington post" is reporting that general sent a memo to troops under his command that said i hope i'm wrong. my get tells me we'll fight in 2025. taiwan's presidential elections are in 2024. they'll offer a reason, you he believes, the presidential elections are also in 2024. they will offer a distracted america. he says the team is an opportunity and they're all aligned for 2025. now, of course this is what he is saying. this does not necessarily the reflection of the consensus of the u.s. military.

republican congressman mike mccall did tell fox he agrees with the general's assessment. >> i hope he's wrong as well. i think he's right though. we have to be prepared for this. and it could happen, i think as long as biden is in office, projecting weakness as did he with afghanistan that led to putin invading ukraine that the odds are very high we could see a conflict with china and taiwan and the endo pacific. >> joining us now is the cnn's chief correspondent and anchor jim sciutto. you've been speaking to military officials. what was the reaction? this memo is pretty bombastic and blunt in what his view of what could happen is. >> well, there is a difference between a gut sense and a official assessment of u.s. intelligence, the department of defense. senior u.s. defense official said to me definitively that these comments are not representative of the

department's view on china. now to be clear, the department, members of congress of both parties are concerned about the possibility of conflict with china in the coming years. but there is no hard data, hard intelligence to predict that a war is going to happen in two years. i do want to give you a read from the u.s. department of defense spokesperson patrick rooid ryder. he said the strategy makes clear that china is the pacing challenge for the department of defense and our focus remains on work ago long side allies and partners to preserve a peaceful, free, and open e next do pacific. what does that mean? that means the u.s. identified china even with russia and ukraine as the primary national security threat to the u.s. they see potential flash points, particularly in taiwan. they know that there is a risk of war over taiwan. but it is not the u.s. assessment that war with china over taiwan or any other issue is going to happen in two years. frankly, i spoke to folks both

currently in the u.s. military and very recently in the u.s. military. they say that it's not the position of the commander of u.s. mobility, air mobility command to make such a public prediction given, of course, china will be watching such comments very closely as well. >> jim, you know this -- you know this region better than anyone. i wonder if you think -- you say publicly, there is publicly and privately what they believe and what they prepare for. "the wall street journal" editorial board this morning writing that the headline is telling the truth about possible war over taiwan and they say that these concerns should be broadly shared. and they quote a navy admiral in 2021 who received before congress that he thought that china could strike taiwan before 2027. >> davidson's comment, they sparked a similar reaction at the time. again, there is a difference between publicly speaking about how real the threat is and, by the way, i speak to folks on

china and the u.s. defense department, national security council frequently on this topic. they treat it as a very real threat. but they are not saying that the u.s. will go to war with china in two years. and that is what a sitting u.s. air force general said. and frankly, that's different. and the assessment by the way, this are private assessments, classified assessments. but there are very public comments about the risk of that war. but a prediction of a war in two years is a different thing. it's very different thing. of course, folks sitting in positions of power now on this side concern that china will read the comments and say wait a second. you know, we got to be prepared for war in two years as well. >> yeah. >> part of avoiding escalation is not making alarmist comments in it public at that level. >> especially in a memo like this one was. jim, thanks. your reporting is helpful. appreciate it. former president donald trump is taking aim at two of his biggest potential competitors in 2024.

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this is some bs. it is kevin mccarthy weaponizing his ability to do this political abuse. he has an effective political opponent. >> had a is congressman as kevin mccarthy's ability to strip a committee position may be many peril this morning. congressman says she does expect more than five republicans to vote against kicking omar off the foreign affairs committee which could effectively block mccarthy from booting a third democrat from the committee given he needs a majority to do so. three representatives responded to the new house speaker's efforts. and now dana bash joins us. kevin mccarthy is coming close to falling short of the votes he needs when it comes to kicking

omar off the committee specifically. >> that's right. we should note and he talked about this. when it comes to the intelligence committee. eric swalwell and adam shchiff, they're off. they can do it on that committee without a house vote. for foreign affairs and other committees, it is different. you need a house vote. and we expect that to be this week. one of the biggest arguments, the biggest argument against omar for sitting on that committee is they allege that she has a series of -- a pattern of anti-semitic and they claim, anti-american remarks over the year. she and i went back and forth. i put a lot of those on the anti-semitism. she didn't understand some of the terms she used were historically anti-jewish and she said sh this say learning experience.

but when comes to the process and whether or not she will get kicked off this committee, here's what she said. >> they have taken a position in the last congress and they will continue to do that. and i believe that that is a really important piece here. their sense to stand behind two members that were accused of insighting violence and threatening the lives of members of congress was to say the minority -- the majority should not have the job for removing the minority from their committees. and i hope that they keep their word. >> in that case, she obviously talking about marjorie taylor green and paul gosar. those are the republicans that democrats voted to take off committees and different votes in the last congress because of comments that they had made in the past. and those cases, guys, republicans joined with democrats. and the case of marjorie taylor green, i believe it was 11 republicans who joined with

them. in this case, what new republican majority is struggling to do is keep their own members in line. so far, we have three republicans who said they won't go along with the leadership on this. and they are ken buck of colorado and also nancy mace and victoria sparks. it looks like they can maybe only lose one more republican if that. otherwise, this effort to remove her could fail. >> dan yasha, let's talk about. this did you this powerful interview. you started your show yesterday with ben crumb, the attorney rep representing tyre nichols's family. he said it's finally time to see justice for george floyd act passed. dick durbin also called on congress to restart police negotiation -- reform negotiations. jim jordan said, i believe it was on fox, no law will change what happened. do you get the sense in washington that any sort of

meaningful federal reform will come from this? they were so powerful. >> it really was. it really was. a statement basically saying enough already. there is no question that it's going to restart the talks. it didn't go anywhere the last time around, the last congress. we'll see if they can get the votes for it. the question that i put to mr. crump is whether or not that is even enough. i don't need to tell you especially don doing the incredible interviews and reporting is that there is also a cultural issue that this country needs to deal with that is not possible to be legislated here in washington. >> before we let you go, you also had this interview with gr governor sununu.

he had interesting comments. he said that if there was a primary today that ron desantis would win. what did he tell you about his own run potentially happening? >> he's considering running. he said that -- furthest i ever heard him go. he said people are talking to him. he is seriously thinking about it. his whole approach to this, he says, is he has a lane potentially that others who are considering don't. he considers himself a moderate on social issues, a conservative on fiscal issues. obviously, he is from and represents as governor the first in the nation primary state. certainly still on the republican side. and he also makes an argument over and over again about the need for generational change. he's 48 years old. and so he is considering it. and so i think we're starting to see the movement in a lot of these potential 2024 candidates taking it, inching it a little bit further forward. >> yeah.

he was quite critical of trump's speech in the state as well. >> very. >> dana bash, great interviews all around. thank you. >> good to see you. speaking of former president trump, he is continuing to criticize former allies like governor ron desantis, nikki haley and now may challenge him in 2024. >> so ron would have been governor. then i hear he may run. then i hear he may run. i consider that very disloyal. i said, look, go by your heart if you want to run. >> j >> joining us now is a pollster and communication expert. we saw trump on the road in new hampshire making a several steps in south carolina as well. i don't think it's surprising he is criticizing desantis and haley. he doesn't think anyone should run against him in 2024. what did you make of it?

>> that's the whole problem. that's the problem that donald trump faces. he sees everything from his perspective. the reason in he was successful in 2016 is because he offered to be their voice. he offered to take their concerns to washington. now it's just a series of gripes and revenge and it's all about hichlt and the republican party h -- him. they have a very different decision to make. are they focused on the future or the past? are they going to be litigating the 2024 election or the 2020 election? you see this all across the country. i want to make one important point about politics. yes, donald trump is leading nationwide in every survey. in high eye, new hampshire, south carolina, ron desantis pulled even or ahead on the states that really matter. this is a duplication of what happened in 2008 when barack

obama was winning. and trump is already falling significantly. he's even behind some of the opponents right now. >> so, frank, listen, i feel like -- we're falling back on 2016. we just talk about trump to be talking about trump. these are hypothetical matchups. this is not the first time that chris sununu said trump can't win. he said he's not stopping anyone from joining the race. chris christie said he doesn't believe trump can win. if we can talk about something that is going to happen, several polls have shown a drop in president biden's principle of law rating ahead of next week's statest of the union address. at principle of law rating is 46% among registered voters. there is a new marquette university law school poll that shows biden down by 44%. at principle of law there. what does that data tell you?

>> it tells me that joe biden is challenged. but it doesn't say that he's going to lose. i know what the white house says. i know what the president says. but i also know the age component and i know that this is not just an election about 2024. this is serving an office through 2029, january 20th through january 29. he is not strong but he is not weak. he does have support from the base but he lost some support among swing voters. and probably most importantly the country is a little bit -- just a little bit more optimistic now than it was a few months ago. but still quite negative. still pessimistic. they see the violence and chaos at the border. they see inflation getting a little bit better. but still difficult. they see the job market reasonably strong. but still layoffs in the tech sector. and they wonder where are we going? who are we?

the point made by dana bash, we have a cultural component of where we stand in the country. not just economic component. and these are all things that president biden needs to address in this state of the union address. >> the classified documents, does it -- do they play a role in this polling? >> they only play a role in that they think donald trump suis mo guilt than president biden and they think he is more guilt than mike pence. we have a challenge that we're facing that the public lost faith and confidence not just in washington, not just in the government, but in all the institutions that lead this country and all the people who lead those institutions. and i'm hoping that someone steps up, steps in and says okay, we hear you. we get it. it's time for a national reset. it's time for us to, quite frankly, tell the truth to the american people. i'm waiting for a candidate who says that's my agenda.

not all politics, not about partisanship. not about issues of the day pt y. >> frank, thank you very much. before we get to the next -- kaitlan, you talk to the biden white house every day. >> he doesn't think biden is going to run. they're waiting for him to announce in the next month. i mean, all -- unless there is an elaborate ruse, everyone is planning, based on reporting for biden, to announce he is running. >> and to your point, he has defied sort of -- >> expectations. >> for everyone. including democrats. they say he can't do it. maybe he's too old or should be someone else. he defied them. to your reporting, he's going to run. >> i would be very shocked if he does not run. i mean, you never say for sure. it's all based on reporting and what they're planning to do. this is under way. they are planning for biden to run for re-election. it will be a major reversal if that changed.

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so protesters taking to the streets over the weekend to

condemn police brutality. in new york city, three demonstrators arrested, one of them you can see right here jumping on the hood of a police vehicle, breaking the windshield. the city's mayor spoke openly about being beaten by police as a teenager. adams tweeting as saying someone who spent decades fighting for police diversity and against police abuse. he said i feel betrayed. so the mayor, eric adams, joins me now. spent more than 20 years in the nypd and a co-founder of a group that speaks out against police brutality. mayor, good morning to you. thank you for appearing. you're the perfect person to talk about these issues. so my first question, how did things go so horribly wrong in memphis? >> i think a number of things went wrong. it was clear that no one was there with a level head and really controlled the situation in the scene.

we know policing is a very high anxiety form of public protection. but those officers lost control. they showed the level of abuse that is really betrayal to those who wear the uniform every day and serve the job of public protection. >> much has been made about the officers, all of them being black. you said that diversif diversif police departments would allow us to have a level of policing we deserve. these five officers all black. is there an entrenched police culture of aggression towards black people? >> clearly we could not ignore the ethnicity of the officers that are involved. that is the pink elephant in the room. and people talked about that. and when we want to diversify departments, it's not only african american, we have increasing number of members from the aapi community, spanish speaking officers, muslim officers. the role was to insure that you

diversify departments so the officers are coming from the communities that they represent. and they grew up in those communities. those officers i believe betrayed that when all of us attempted to diversify departments. but we're going to stay focused. we're going to keep moving forward. diversity is the key. we saw that in here in new york city. and we're going to stay on that road. but it was a personal feeling of betrayal when i witnessed that video. >> okay. let me ask you, chief cj davis said all the officers being black it takes race off the table. do you agree that? >> no. i don't. i think that i understand what the chief is saying. i think she really handled this situation in a very professional way. she moved swiftly. she assured that officers were removed from the department. she took all the necessary steps. i think racism is still on the table. when a culture of policing historically treated those from different groups differently, even when the individuals are

from that same group, that culture can still exist. we have to zero in on it being honest about it and making sure that we properly train police for the realities of the city that's they are policing. ? >> i want to talk about the scorpion unit. she established scorpion unit. memphis police now saying they're going to disdband that unit. that is one of the units with one of the name. the same, you know, the same officers are still in the police department. the same mentality runs through the police department. do you think that is the right move? is that enough? >> i would never second guess a person who is on the ground. she is closest to the problem. she is closest to the solution. units don't create abuse. abusive behavior creates abuse. you can be assigned to uniform patrol if you don't have the right mindset for public protection. and i think the know built of being a law enforcement officer then you should not be assigned

in the police department. what i put back in place our anti-gun unit, many people stated that we should not do it. but we were able to remove 7,000 guns off our streets. that's a 27-year high. we look at the number of arrests for those who carry guns, we must have proper training, proper mindset and the police officers across our country must have the right mindset to do this very difficult and challenging job of public protection. >> i want to follow up on what is happening with the nypd. let me get this in. this is from the family. tyre nichols' family asked that scorpion unit being disband. they said that they hope other cities take action to get rid of units just like it. since elected, you have revived a controversial anti-crime nypd unit that was responsible for the death of eric garner. how do you respond to the nichols family?

>> first of all, i understand their feeling and emotion. i remember when the first time i shared with my mom that i was assaulted by police officers how devastating it was for her. it was years later. but she understood what it was. and so i understand when those who are the victims of the abusive police behavior respond a certain way. we have an obligation of using all the tools properly to keep citizens safe. and right here in new york city, we did not reinstate the anti-crime unit that was a plain clothe is unit and plain vehicles. what we put back in place based on hearing from the public officers wearing a modified uniform so they could be properly identified, proper training and make sure the officers who are assigned were hand picked and understood how to interact with the public and keep your pod body cameras on. it is the body cameras and the

camera from the pole that allow us to get the transparency we need sod we can properly make the right decisions. >> i think it's fair to say you updated that unit. you think from what you're saying keeping the body cameras on and so forth that, is how you are going to reassure new yorkers that these units are safe? >> a combination of the body camera footage is crucial. having the right supervision that can deescalate a situation when it gets out of hand and pick the right officers to assign. just because you're a police officer does not mean that you are capable of doing every aspect of policing. if you're a doctor, that doesn't mean you can be a brain surgeon. no. the policing that allows you to deal with a high volume of arrests go off those that carry guns t guns s guns, this is a special trained officer. we have to lift the standards of police nothing matter who wears

the uniform. >> let's talk about the migrant crisis. you've been speaking out a lot about. that you say it's a national crisis. you also said that new york city is full. is that really true? is the biden administration helping you oitut attal? >> i think we must do more. i tip my hat off to the new york congressional delegation including senator shchumer and congressman jeffries. they were able to pass a bipartisan bill with over $800 million that is going to be dispersed through those cities that are involved. we received $8 million from fema. when you look at the pricetag it's going to continue to go up. but we have to go to the source. the source is real comprehensive immigration reform. republicans have been holding on and blocking it for too many years. we must get this resolved. but there is a crisis right now. and that crisis should be coronated by the national government. we need to expedite the right to work because it's just unfair to

cities like el paso, new york, chicago, washington, for us to pick up this burden. and then we need one individual who solely is playing the role of a decompression strategy so that the end of the road can't be new york city and other big cities. so we need more help from the national government with speaking with our partners in the state to get this real crisis under control. >> part of my question was the biden administration. is the biden administration helping you out? you are speaking out to them in your last answer? >> yes. when it comes down to the coordination and down to the decompression strategy, when it comes down to making sure we find ways to allow people to work so they don't have to only sit around all day, yes, i'm speaking directly to the administration. this is a problem that we must have a resolution both from congress and immigration and the administration to deal with immediate need that we have.

>> two quick questions that new yorkers are -- this is new york krechlt ntric. just before the new year, you created a rat czar initiative. when i ask people what should i as the mayor, new yorkers, they said rats. so go. what is z. this mean? you are going to get rid of them? reduce the number of rats? >> well, i don't know many people pay not know it. i hate rats. rats are going to hate me before it's over. you know, rats are an indicator that your city is not clean. it it's not healthy. and when i zero in on rats, i'm zeroing in on something that is a reflection -- you start your day. you don't want a rat running across your foot. you don't want them inside your car. so there is something that all new yorkers if not all americans can clearly see a symbol. we're going to hire a rat czar

that is going to focus on rats and hate them as much as i do and use new innovation and device that's we're testing to go after the problem. >> okay. can you imagine? i'm the rat czar. listen. can you see this? i don't know if you had a chance to read the post this morning. so many people are complaining, you know, the eagles, new york league, whatever, we don't like philadelphia. bird brains. people are upset because the empire state building lit up in the eagles colors. mayor, what were you thinking? >> no. listen. that got away from us. the way the eagles game got away from us with the giants. we should have lit up in real symbolism the colors of the giant blue. it should have been. there unfortunately, someone did not get the memo at the empire state building. but we want to see good sportsmanship. the giants will be back next year and the jets will be back. we'll be excited when they rebuild their team.

>> we have it all in. from d.c. to what is happening with migrants to bird brains. >> to rats to bird brains. mayor -- >> my husband has a thing with the rats. like you should -- he's going to be so happy you asked that question. >> i said, tim, what should i ask the mayor? he said ask him about the rats. >> it's a real problem. >> i know you love jalen hurts. you have alabama roots. that's why the empire state was for the eagles last night. >> she said you're behind it, mayor. >> thank you. >> it's always a pleasure. thank you. please come back. we love having you. thank you. >> thank you. take care. this week housespeaker kevi mccarthy and president biden will sit down and talk about the looming economic crisis, debt ceiling. what is this going to entail since the white house said

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