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so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ hey there. i'm victor blackwell. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> and i'm alisyn camerota. a sixth officer is now off the memphis police force in connection with the beating death of tyre nichols. preston hemphill was relieved of duty, and his lawyer confirms he was wearing a body camera on january 7th. the footage from it was released friday along with the other videos that show nichols ultimately fatal encounter with police. we have a warning for you. what we're about to play is disturbing. >> footage from the multiple cameras shows nichols getting kicked and punched and pepper sprayed and beaten with a baton. and when the assault stopped, no
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one gave nichols any medical attention for at least 25 minutes. now, five of the officers seen in the video have been fired and charged with second-degree murder and their unit to fight street crimes and guns known as scorpion, that's now gone. it's been disbanded. happened over the weekend. cnn correspondent nick valencia is with us now. so what are you learning about this sixth officer, preston hemphill now being relieved of duty? >> yeah, the memphis police department telling me he is on administrative leave, that he was relieved along with the other officers. so this makes six that were relieved as a result of their involvement in the incident that led to tyre nichols' death. we know preston hemphill as he's been identified has been on the memphis police department since 2018 and according to a source with knowledge of hemphill's involvement we know he was part of this so-called scorpion unit. also according to his attorney victor and alisyn, we are told that hemphill is the officer whose body camera we see in video 1. remember those four videos that were released on friday showing
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the incident that led to tyre nichols' death. well, officer hemphill, we want to show you in this video and warn you that it is graphic, we want to show you that officer hemphill deploys his taser in this video and we can hear him and see him deploying that taser. we also see him say "one of them prongs hit the bastard." and just listen to what he had to say in this video. >> they found him. >> martin and all them were over there chasing him. i hope they stomp his ass. i hope they stomp his ass. smith is calling for other cars because him and martin is chasing them. >> so you can hear that officer as he's been identified as officer preston hemphill by his attorney. you hear him there deploy his taser. use some pretty strong language
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about tyre nichols. and we are looking to see and hear if there's any charges that are going to be filed against officer hemphill. i reached out a short time ago to the district attorney's office and asked them directly are you expecting scharnlgz or should we expect charges against officer hemphill? they did not answer directly only to say that they are look at everyone on the scene, all the officers and all the first responders but clearly this fallout still continuing from what happened to tyre nichols. alisyn and victor. >> we will be speaking to the district atoesh later in the program, so we will ask that direct question as well. meanwhile, there was a tower cam that got a bird's eye view of some of the worst parts of the nichols assault. it had no audio but cnn was able to sync up p the audio from another camera that was rolling at the same time. so let's play that. >> give he me your hands! turn around! lay flat! lay flat. lay flat! lay flat! >> lay flat. >> i mean, obviously you can
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hear them yelling lay flae flat, lay flat. he appears to be laying flat during that time. but one of the big questions, nick, is why were the officers so angry right from the get-go? what happened? what was the precursor to all of this adrenaline and anger? >> it was alleged he was reckless driving. something that wasn't substantiated according to the police. but it seem like it was intensely personal, didn't it? so we're looking into whether or not there was any personal connection between these officers and tyre nichols. in fact, it's something that i asked the police department early on last week. they said at this time it is unknown whether any of these officers had a personal relationship, or prior relationship with nichols before this arrest. but it's clearly still part of their investigation. alisyn, victor? >> nick valencia with the reporting. nick, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> tyre nichols' parents have been invited to washington to attend next week's state of the union address. his death has renewed the urgency for nationwide policing reform. >> cnn congressional correspondent jessica dean joins us now. so jessica, what is the actual likelihood of this getting done?
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>> reporter: well, long story short, guys, at this point it is very, very low. and let me walk you through why that is. you remember that these negotiations, especially in the senate in february of 2021, that was between republican tim scott and democrat cory booker and then representative karen bass, who's now the mayor of los angeles. and here we stand now where both booker and scott have said they are committed to doing something. they both put out statements after that horrible, brutal video was released saying they wanted to do something. but the bottom line remains what would that be? and is it at all what the other would want to do? we've heard calls from both the congressional black caucus, from other lawmakers and the naacp to do something. i'll let you listen to the naacp from tennessee. >> we come to call action from congress. by failing to craft and pass bills to stop police brutality the blood of black america is on
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your hands. so stand up and do something. >> reporter: and so here the fact remains, though, we don't believe anything at this point would come together in the senate. if it even did it would still need 60 points and then it's got to get through a now gop-controlled house, victor and always ialisyn, and they have telegraphed over the weekend, jim jordan saying he doesn't think any law could have made a difference, really telegraphing this is not something they plan to drill down on. that is the state of play right now. it remains to be seen exactly what happens. we could see some legislation introduced but the bottom line is at this point it doesn't have what it needs to move through both chambers. victor and alisyn. >> jessica dean on capitol hill. thank you, jessica. joining us now is antonio ramanucchi, one of the attorneys representing the family of tyre nichols. good to talk with you again. let me start with your reaction to this sixth officer now relieved of duty, preston hemphill heard on tape saying "i hope they stomp his ass" and firing that taser.
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your thoughts. >> thank you, victor. there is so much to unpack that every day, every time we hear the video, see the video, more comes out. we knew about this police officer when we first saw the video, which has now been a week ago today. and certainly there is no doubt that there has to be accountability for this particular officer. i see his words -- and they're all culpable here, they're all accountable. but his words were really an ignition, weren't they, to what we saw happen to tyre's second encounter. so when he said "let's hope they stomp his ass," that is something we see, especially in the civil rights arena from a legal perspective, as a custom of tolerance. i guarantee this is not the first time that this scorpion unit said let's go stomp some somebody. this is multiple times. god only knows how many times. so that's why not only does there need to be accountability
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for this particular officer. everybody on that scene needs to be accountable wearing a uniform, whether they were police, fire or emt, i see everybody as being complicit with this pattern and practice of failing to intervene and certainly violence. >> okay. so a couple of things. hemphill's attorney says that he was at the first scene but not at the second scene. that second scene is the view that we saw from that pole cam. but you say that all of the officials, emts, the officers need to be held accountable. does that mean firing all of them? charging all of them? what's your view? >> well, certainly accountability means many different things. you know, the administrative -- the suspension, that's just the beginning. whether or not they all get fired, i mean, it's my opinion that this is worthy of termination because we saw that
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somebody died very unnecessarily and violently and savagely as a result of a severe beating, and this particular officer, hemphill, started it by saying "i hope they stomp his ass." well, his wish came true. i don't know why he should be excused. i don't know why because he wasn't at the second event that his words should be excused, especially if they were broadcast. that part we don't know. but once again, what i'm saying is that this scorpion unit, and i heard the reporting before, you know, why so violent right away? why did it start escalating from a zero to a 10? >> that's something i'd like to get to because the question of why this happened. the officers claim reckless driving. the chief said that there's nothing that substantiates that on the recording. have you gotten closer to getting an answer there? is there any information that you have that tyre nichols knew
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personally, previously had any previous interaction with any of the officers on scene? >> so first of all, with regard to the reckless driving charge, i don't buy it at all. i mean, that's just the justification. it's a defense. it's an excuse. for a reason to stop tyre. and you could see in the manner and how they stopped him, they stopped him like in the good old days of the jump out boys and they just pull him out of the car and they immediately use violence and force. regarding anything personal, i don't think there's anything personal here. this is a modus operandi. this is a ratified behavior. this is how the scorpion unit was told they could operate -- >> mr. romanucci, there's a distinction between my question and your answer. my question is do you know if they had any personal interaction, if they knew one another personally? your answer was you don't think this was personal. but i want to go back to the question. do you have any information that tyre nichols knew any of these officers personally, if they had had any interaction before the
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incident that night? >> we have no information of that nature at all. >> okay. all right. let me get to the case. we've talked about how the d.a. and the u.s. attorney and the chief came out early to try to prepare the public, to try to quell any potential violence or vandalism and then released this video. i was in baltimore in 2015 after the death of freddie gray, and there was no video in that case but there were the riots as we all watched as a country. when the d.a. or the state's attorney marilyn moseby came out that day, she said i heard your calls for no justice, no peace. the defense attorney for those baltimore officers says that in the time between the death and the charges there was no way that there could have been a comprehensive investigation. are you concerned that these charges, although i know you believe they're just, that they came at the right time, that all of the work necessary in the investigation leading up to them
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was completed by the d.a. in this case? >> i think so, victor. i think these charges came out at an appropriate time because we do have good video. what we also have, what we know are the rules of engagement for police officers for the city of memphis. and when you look at what the tolerance level is for force, it has to always be proportionate. right? there's a fine line between proportional force and disproportionate, excessive force. and clearly tyre was unarmed. he was defenseless. so the video i think was able to establish the charges very clearly. >> of course i ask that because three of the officers in baltimore were acquitted. the other three, they dropped the charges against them. and of course the people who wanted some accountability for freddie gray's death, they did not get that in court. antonio romanucci, i thank you for your time. >> thank you, victor.
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joining us now is laura king. she is the daughter of rodney king and the founder of the rodney king foundation. his violent beating by the los angeles police in 1991 was captured on video and sparked national outrage and calls for police reform. laura, great to see you again. when you and i spoke on thursday night, i know that you said you were sick to your stomach just hearing about the video. and on friday night i understand you watched the video. so what was that experience like? >> i still -- i'm sorry. i still don't feel well. i don't wish that upon an animal. i don't wish that upon let alone any human being. i don't know how to feel. i don't. and if you're human, you should feel the same way. you should feel the same way i feel. i'm not well. that's disgusting. i don't -- i'm still like numb. i don't know how to feel about this.
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i'm happy, i'm happy to see police reform coming into play finally. that makes me very hopeful. that gives me like light at the end of the tunnel. but let's push it through. let's do it -- you know, let's take it serious. let's make it urgency because we all witnessed this. it seems like it's getting worse and worse. it seems like -- i can't -- i'm trying to like compose myself. i don't wish this on anybody. i don't know how everybody's not okay with this. how do you explain this to your children? the internet is everywhere. what do we do? i can't come to grips with explaining this to my kids. there's no -- there's nothing in that that is okay. and even from when he got pulled over. i was confused. i was so confused. and honestly, i'm going to be honest with you, based off of their body language and the words that they used, right when they smashed the door open, they didn't tell him what he did. i would have ran because i would have been fearful for my life
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too. you can't tell me -- he was doing everything. and like someone said, they kept telling him to lie down. he was lying down. he was lying down. and i think -- i think they were repeating that because they knew they were recorded. so naturally of course other people are going to say he wasn't complying with the police, he wasn't -- he was. he was 140 pounds. it took that many men? did it really take that many men? and that disgusting officer in the back as someone spoke. this is repetitive behavior. i hope they stomp his -- come on. this is not the first. and as my dad says in his documentation, he's not the first rodney king. he won't be the first. unless we do something this is going to keep happening. we're going to be sick. we're going to be disgustedly sick. i'm sick. i don't know how to feel. i don't. i really don't. >> i don't blame you. it's okay to feel sickened by this obviously. your father's beating was 32 years ago. and then of course george floyd and what we watched with that
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was 2 1/2 years ago. and the fact that this is still happening. i too -- i mean, like you am heartened that people are talking about police reform. but there's a difference between talking about it and calling for it and then actually happening. and then you have some congressmen, we just heard jim jordan over the weekend say he doesn't see any basically law that could stop this. let me just play that for you for a second. >> sure. >> i don't know that there's any law that can stop that evil that we saw that is just -- i mean, just difficult to watch. what strikes me is just the lack of respect for human life. so i don't know that any law, any training, any reform is going to change -- this man was handcuffed. they continued to beat him. >> and so lora, i mean, what do you -- obviously he's describing -- he sounds disgusted by it. but what do you say to people who don't know what the solution might be? >> you know, the solution -- we have to reconstruct everything
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because obviously the way that we've been doing, it's having a domino effect and it's getting heavier. it's not getting lighter. it's getting heavier. and of course these officers look like us. so that's -- i don't even know how to feel about that. and you know, they reference him as if it was a game, same with my father, they referenced my father as if it was a baseball game. we had a good one tonight, i hope you go get him. huh? i can't comprehend that. my soul, my spirit, my gut is not well. and that poor man's mom, she has to -- she has to have this nightmare replaying of her child crying out to her. he was what, less than two minutes away from his house? i can't -- there's nothing you can explain. and i think everything needs to be redone. i think officers need to be mentally evaluated regularly. i don't think that they should be sent out and deal with society given they probably have mental conditions because anybody that does this is not
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well. you can't tell me -- you can't tell me you can't do that and go home and eat with your family. so yeah, today was good. what? are you kidding me? something's not right mentally. and this time i hear multiple people being sick, not just people that look like me. everybody's sick. they're sick. they're numb. they're mute. around their family. now i went out today, the whole vibe -- it's always -- every time for me it's different. but this time people were like looking at me with compassion, like they felt like you know -- and it's sad. and i felt the same way. because i feel sorry for anybody that's not even black that had to watch that. everybody's sick. this is not working. >> lora, i think you speak to the national trauma that this inflicts on all of us every time it happens. but i think that your suggestion about routine mental evaluations, people should be able to agree on that. just start there. and that's a great starting place. and we really appreciate you
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in just a few minutes president biden will speak at the site of a rail tunnel replacement project in baltimore. >> it's be being funded by the new bipartisan infrastructure law, and the white house says it will bring 30,000 new jobs and fix the largest rail bottleneck between washington and new jersey. when it's done it will be renamed for maryland native frederick douglass. cnn's jeremy diamond joins us live from baltimore. so what more are we expecting from the president? >> reporter: well, president biden's about to step on stage here, flanked by an amtrak car and these railway tracks leading into this 150-year-old tunnel, which is now going to be replaced with a new tunnel thanks in part to the bipartisan infrastructure law.
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it's a $6 billion project. about $4.7 billion of which will come from federal funding. and it's expected to try and relieve this second largest bottleneck between washington, d.c. and new jersey, allowing trains to go up to 110 miles an hour instead of the current 30-mile-an-hour that they go through, causing massive delays. but of course this is part of president biden's overall salesmanship effort. a week out from the state of the union address. this is one of three events that president biden is holding touting some of these new infrastructure projects. he'll be in new york tomorrow and then in philadelphia on friday. and all of this of course leading up to a state of the union address where the president wants to talk about what this next year's going to look like, implementing these major infrastructure projects. all of course in the leadup to an anticipated 2024 re-election campaign announcement. >> 30 miles per hour to 110 miles per hour. we're going to get to d.c. much quicker. >> that's a nice boost. >> meanwhile, on president biden's schedule this week, jeremy, also a meeting with house speaker kevin mccarthy.
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this is the first one since mccarthy took the gavel. what's on their agenda to talk about? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. and excuse me for the noise here. we have a train coming by. but if you can still hear me, this is going to be the first face-to-face meeting between the house speaker and president biden since kevin mccarthy became speaker of the house. and so far all we know there's agreement on is that the debt ceiling will be discussed. whether or not that's actually a negotiation depends on who you ask. here is kevin mccarthy talking about it just yesterday. >> we're going to meet this wedn wednesday. i know the president said he didn't want to have any discussions. but i think it's very important that our whole government's designed to find compromise. i want to find a reasonable and a responsible way that we can lift the debt ceiling but take control of this runaway spending. >> reporter: now, president biden for his part and the white house, they still insist that the debt ceiling is not something that they're going to allow to be used as a bargaining
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chip for the spending cuts that kevin mccarthy and the republicans are seeking here. instead what we heard from the white house just yesterday is that president biden is going to ask kevin mccarthy if he plans to meet his, quote, constitutional obligation to prevent a national default. again, putting the onus back on kevin mccarthy. i doubt that anything's going to be solved in this wednesday meeting. instead this is really about setting the table, both sides trying to frame these discussions that will happen over the coming months up until this summer when we actually hit that debt limit. we'll see of course how that goes. alisyn, victor. >> jeremy diamond with laser-like focus. trains, trombones, doesn't matter. he keeps talking. >> if you hold an event at a train tunnel, you're going to hear the train. >> that's right. jeremy, thank you. >> thank you, jeremy. all right. for the first time in a month staff and students are now returning to the virginia school where a 6-year-old shot a first grade teacher. hear from the parents about that pretty emotional return.
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right now secretary of state tony blinken is in israel urging prime minister benjamin netanyahu and palestinian leaders to ease tensions after a sharp escalation in violence that's killed more than a dozen people in the last week. >> this is blinken's first visit to israel under the new netanyahu government. he will also meet with palestinian leaders tomorrow for another round of high-stakes talks aimed at bringing calm to the region. cnn's hadas gold is in jerusalem. so hadas, what happened at today's joint press conference? >> reporter: well, alisyn, this visit was possibly going to be prickly even before the latest
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round of violence because benjamin netanyahu, while a familiar face, he has a new very right-wing government that the americans have said they're going to deal with them on their policies and not necessarily on the personalities. then the events of the last few days brought definitely a new sense of urgency here and a big hope that secretary blinken could at least help dial the temperature down on the ground because after the events of the laugh few days it really felt as though things were boiling here and there was a major concern that it's just going to really explode into a much larger confrontation. last week, thursday, was the deadliest day for palestinians in the west bank in more than a year, and then friday night was that shooting outside of a synagogue in jerusalem. seven people killed. there was then another shooting saturday morning where two israelis were injured. so very, very concerning time right now. and secretary blinken calling for calm. take a listen. >> we're urging all sides now to take urgent steps to restore calm, to de-escalate. we want to make sure there's an
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environment in which we can i hope at some point create the conditions where we can start to restore a sense of security for israelis and palestinians alike, which of course is sorely lacking. >> reporter: now, there wasn't any specifics on exactly what the secretary perhaps asked of the israelis to do to help restore that calm. perhaps it's in response to the israeli cabinet announcing a series of steps being taken in response to those attacks, trying to strengthen they said security around settlements in the occupied west bank. but also new drastic measures including things that are being seen as collective punishment like potentially revoking the residency not just of attackers but also the families of people who are deemed as terrorists. now, benjamin netanyahu for his side didn't actually go into necessarily a lot of what the situation on the ground is, instead saying he believes it's through expanding things like the abraham accords, that that is the path toward finding a solution with palestinians. alisyn, victor? >> hadas gold for us there in jerusalem. thank you, hadas. the pakistani taliban is claiming responsibility for a deadly explosion inside a mosque that killed at least 61 people
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winning back the white house than ever. and then he took aim at his potential republican challengers. >> so ron would not be governor if it wasn't for me. then when i hear he might run, you know, i consider that very disloyal. i said look, go by your heart. if you want to run. he's probably saying i would never run against my president, he was a great president. >> let's bring in now ron brownstein, cnn's senior political analyst and senior editor for "the atlantic." also with us political commentator and republican strategist alice stewart. alice, let me start with you. clearly he is going after who he thinks is the biggest threat and that's ron desantis. polls would suggest he's probably on target with that. desantis doesn't need to get into the race, but does he need to respond to this? do you think any of these kind of early swipes are landing? >> well, speaking from experience with a candidate who is on the receiving end of donald trump's threat, generally the best response is no response
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because he will just continue to punch and attack. and clearly what we're seeing is donald trump seems to think that any of knees potential 2024 candidates owe a pledge to him and not a pledge to the united states of america. and he's going to be in for a rude awakening. and two things are certain about donald trump. if you are irrelevant, he will ignore you. and if you are threatening, he will target you. and that's exactly what he's doing with are ron desantis. he sees the polls. he sees that desantis is ahead in the key state of new hampshire. he's closing the gap in a lot of these national polls. he's also hearing from a lot of donors and fund-raisers within the republican party who have said enough of donald trump, there are plenty of candidates out there that will espouse the policies of donald trump but will not bring about the dumpster fire that donald trump brings, and they're looking to turn the page and they're looking elsewhere. and donald trump is going to see a very crowded field very soon. >> ron, i can imagine that it would be hard for governor desantis to ignore this, in
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particular because donald trump is going after his record on covid, which governor desantis prides himself on. so he sees him as -- he's calling him disloyal and calling him sort of a charlatan on covid. so here's that moment. >> i had governors that decided not to close their state. florida was actually closed for a long period of time. remember he closed the beaches and everything else. you know, they're trying to rewrite history. it's sometimes hard to do that. so then when i hear he might run, you know, i consider that very disloyal. but it's not about loyalty, but to me it is. it's always about loyalty. >> basically, it's hard to hear that obviously but he said that basically governor desantis is trying to rewrite history because florida was closed for a long time. >> yeah. and that, alisyn, i think is really indicative of the dynamic that's going to develop, has developed already very quickly in the republican race. i mean, the reason why so many of the donors and strategists
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and party leaders that alice referred to prefer desantis over trump is because they think desantis has a better chance than trump of winning back those white collar suburbs outside of philadelphia and detroit and georgia and atlanta and phoenix and milwaukee that proved dispositive in the 2020 race that cost reins 2020 and was a large reason why they didn't do as well as expected in 2022. but the dynamic that's already developing is trump and desantis to the extent they're dealing with each other are each attacking each other from the right and pulling each other further to the right. you see trump there basically saying desantis wasn't right-wing enough in resisting covid shutdowns. you've had desantis saying that trump was too kind of conceding so the biomedical state by promoting the vaccine. you had trump last week put out this really striking, extreme education agenda that had language like pink-haired communist as teachers in an attempt to outflank desantis on kind of the woke ideology
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attacks desantis is doing. and desantis at some point will respond to that, presumably with even more aggressive measures. so you can see right away that the initial dynamic is not desantis trying to pivot off trump and maybe make himself think about the general election but i think they are both kind of in this tumble over each other to kind of outflank each other on the right and that obviously has big implications for whichever one, if either, wins the nomination. >> alice, let's talk about this large field you're hoping for and listen to new hampshire governor sununu here now in his fourth term. >> oh, i don't have a timeline. obviously folks are talking about it. but i don't have a timeline. i've spent a lot of time nationally trying to grow the party as republicans. talk to independents. talk to the next generation of potential republican voters that right now no one is really reaching out to. you're considering it? >> yes. >> so he's considering getting in. is he one of the non-trump and really non-trump affiliated, didn't serve in the administration, voices who could
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be a formidable challenge to the former president? >> he certainly could. and he's certainly more moderate on the social issues and conservative on the fiscal issues, which is a good lane to be in. we all know that donald trump, you have to give him credit, he has a very strong solid base. but we need to grow on that. we need to bring in the disaffected independents as well as republicans that we've lost due to his tone and tenor. and there are many candidates that can do just that. and the key is to get out there, work on your name i.d., get out on as much television as you possibly can, and go to these early states and talk with people and shake their hands. people like sununu. there are many others. nikkei haley. asa hutchinson. mike pompeo. what they're doing is going to these early states and they're talking with the key people in these states and they're working to develop a grassroots. and they're also working to test the waters with regard to fund-raising numbers. and there's a big space out
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there for someone who has trump's policies without the tone and tenor. and that's the important thing. we need to look past just who's going to win the republican primary but who can actually win a general election. and that's what republicans are looking at. >> i thought it was very interesting, ron, that he doesn't appear to fear donald trump's wrath. and i'll just paraphrase it for nut interest of time. he said that donald trump came to new hampshire and frankly gave a very mundane speech. he stuck to his teleprompter. he stuck to his talking points. then he went away. he didn't bring that fire, that energy. and i think it was a little disappointing to some folks. and that's somebody who doesn't sound like he's afraid of blowback from donald trump. >> right. in fact, he was right. the speech was kind of low energy, like the original announcement speech. kind of making you wonder how much donald trump's heart is in this. look, if sununu gets in the race, what it does is devalue the importance of new hampshire. and that tilts the balance in the republican primary. you have those first three states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. and iowa and south carolina,
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about 2/3 of the republican primary voters or even more in south carolina are evangelical christians. new hampshire's the offset to that where you have more of the voters that alice was talking about who are fiscally conservative but socially more moderate. only about 1/4 of the voters in new hampshire with evangelical christians. if the governor, signature governor runs, new hampshire gets less attention. just guaranteed. and has less impact on the outcome of the race. so that kind of tilts the balance more actually paradoxically toward the social conservatives and also sununu is indicative of the problem that the trump opponents have. we know that he's much less popular among college-educated republicans than among blue-collar republicans. the problem is that in 2016 even though he only won about 1/3 of those college republicans the rest never coalesced behind one candidate. they splintered behind cruz and rubio and jeb for a while and ka kasich. and the risk again is you have a lot of candidates potentially eyeing that lane. sununu, hogan, tim scott if he
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runs, nikki haley if she runs, and certainly that would have to be the core for a desantis challenge. so divide and conquer could be trump's friend again in '24 taz was in '16 even though desantis has a better chance of consolidating the anti-trump part of the party than anyone did whatever it may be, seven years ago. >> which is also why governor sununu said get in but also know when to get out of the race as well, don't stay too long if you "countdown" get that support. yeah. >> ron, alice, thank you both. >> thank you. president biden is speaking in maryland on the impact of the bipartisan infrastructure law. >> baltimore particularly, amtrak specifically. and finally, it's been over three years since -- i didn't know you had seats. you ought to sit down. by the way, i said when i was running in 2020 for the job, i said everybody take their seat. there were no seats. and the press said he is really stupid. so i don't dare tell anybody take a seat unless i see the chairs. but anyway. thank you. you know, it's been over three
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years since his passing, but my late friend elijah cummings, he's with us in spirit looking down saying joe, you finally got this sucker done. [ applause ] ceo steven gardner. steven, he knows he's got strong support in amtrak. probably too strong. i'm driving him nuts already. i want to get it all done quickly. and secretary pete buttigieg. this is just one example of the great work you're doing, pete. appreciate it a lot. [ applause ] . let me at the outset, this is just the beginning, beginning of having a 21st century rail system that's been so long overdue in this country. back in delaware i'm known for riding amtrak, for being a senator all those years. and most of you know that as a senator i rode the train between washington and wilmington and back and forth every single day that the senate was in. and they tell me it's about
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average 117 days a year, about 265 miles a day. i put over a million miles on amtrak. not a joke. including -- [ applause ] including as vice president. amtrak wasn't just the way to get home to family. the conductors, the engineers, they literally became my family. i used to have a summer party at my home in delaware, started off with about ten conductors and engineers, ended up with about 70 people. they became my friends. went to an awful lot of their children's weddings and unfortunately funerals of them. when i was vice president i flew oaf a million miles on air force two. and i was going home as a united states -- as vice president and one of the conductors said to me, hey, joe, big deal, a million, whatever, 200 -- he said you've traveled travel the. >> how the hell do you know that? they added it up.
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a made a thousand trips through this tunnel so i've been through this tunnel a thousand times and, you know, when folks talk about how badly the baltimore tunnel needs an upgrade you don't need me to tell you, i've been there and you've been there too. i know it's not just amtrak. i know how computer this is to commuter rail and mark rail back and forth to washington and i know how much it matters to the entire northeast corridor from here to boston that it matters a great deal. for years people talked about fixing this tunnel. well, i think i made one of the few guys back in the early '80s actually walked into the tunnel with some of the construction workers. ought to get inside and see it. this is a 150-year-old tunnel. you wonder how in the hell it is still standing. with the infrastructure law we're finally getting it done. this is the most significant investment in roads, bridges
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since the interstate highway system and the single most significant investment since amtrak was created 50 years ago. through the infrastructure law we'll invest over $4 billion to replace the existing baltimore and potomac tunnel. that's why it's so important. over 2,200 trains run on this corridor every single day and it's the busiest in the united states, one of the busiest corridors in the world. the problem anywhere along the line means that up and down the east coast commuters are trying to get to and from work and get in trouble. business trying to ship their goods, if this line shuts down, it's just one day it would cost the country over $100 million. but this tunnel, it's a major checkpoint for 9 million amtrak and mark computer rail passes you pass through each and every year. 1.4 million -- 1.4 mile stretch
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and slows to 30 miles an hour. you heard this already but it's important. 99% of the weekdays there's been a delay here somewhere. trust me, i know. this tunnel is nearly as i said 150 years old. it's the civil war era. ulysses s. grant was president. the structure is deteriorating. the roof is leaking. the floor is sinking. this is the united states of america,ed to god's sake. we know better than that. we know we have to prove we're much better than that. funding from the infrastructure law is fully replacing this tum and renaming it after frederick d douglas. he escaped slavery and traveled the country by rail fighting for abolition and civil rights so that it's fitting we honor him in this way. the frederick douglass, look, we
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have a lot to do, when the project is done new trains will travel through this tum at 110 miles an hour instead of 30 miles an hour. mark train also go from here to washington in 30 minutes. on an average weekday that will eliminate nearly seven hours a day. the tunnel will be all electric and continue to invest in rail to make it easier for people to use. its potential to take thousands of vehicles offer the freeway and save millions of barrels of oil reducing pollution. all the studies show if you get from point a to point b by rail faster than you can by automobile you take the rail. this is going to be a game changer for the environment as well and so this is what we're doing across the country, not just here. tomorrow i'll be in new york for a similar announcement. the hudson tunnel project and a critical juncture in the northeast corridor. earlier this month i was in kentucky with republican leaders
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standing there and the republican governor and also democratic leaders, over a billion dollars is being spent on the bridge over the ohio river connecting ohio and kentucky. repairing the original bridge and building an entirely new one parallel to it. each day trucks carry about $2 billion worth of freight across that bridge. >> president biden making remarks there at what will soon be a new tunnel there at what is the largest bottleneck on the axle l a axle accela corridor. >> it will go from 30 miles an hour to 110 which is stunning. i mean if that is really going to happen that will change everything. >> certainly. >> and then as you heard him say he's also going to be talking tomorrow at this tunnel between new jersey and new york which can also be a huge bottleneck so
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