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>> this is all so disturbing. good morning, everyone. thank you so much for joining us this morning. the memphis officer who said that he wanted to stomp tyre nichols off the streets along with another officer and several emts. we're going to have more on the firings and the fallouts continue to grow here. millions of americans across the south waking up to a brutal ice storm. we'll tell you when and where to expect treacherous conditions, including sub zero temps. and former president trump facing the real possibility of criminal charges over hush money payments to the adult film actress stormy daniels. >> we're going to begin with what poppy told you about, dangerous ice, the governor of arkansas declaring a state of emergency. a live look near fayetteville, arkansas, 40 million americans from texas to virginia are under winter weather alerts this morning. dallas preparing for another round of freezing rain and sleet, and nearly a thousand flights have already been cancelled today.
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pete muntean standing by for us this morning. good morning, pete. how bad could these flight cancellations get today? >> reporter: this is going to have a huge impact on air travel because dallas is a huge hub, not only for american airlines but also a major hub at dallas love for southwest airlines. the faa says also expect ground stops today in austin all the way to memphis, which is the major must be for fedex. we saw 1,800 cancellations yesterday. today, that number is expected to go even higher. we have sign 970 today. outsized impact on southwest airlines. 40% of cancellationis nationwid by southwest, about a third so far today. i want you to listen to passengers who are trying to take this in stride. they are understanding about this. they know that the weather is out of an airline's control. listen. >> we had a flight this morning at 9:20, and they cancelled that flight due to weather.
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>> we were taking a trip to a conference in orlando, and i looked at the weather before we left, and i told my wife, i said i have a feeling flights might get cancelled. sho should i do this or not, and i went ahead and did it anyway, and lo and be hold, flights got cancelled. >> 16,700 cancellations, that's what we saw by southwest over their major holiday meltdown. so far southwest has cancelled 4% of that. not that big just yet although this storm is only just beginning. >> pete muntean, thank you very much. this morning two more police officers in memphis are on leave after the beating death of tyre nichols, one of them has been identified as preston hemphill who is white and allegedly deployed his taser during that confrontation. hemphill is a member of the scorpion unit with five officers facing second-degree murder and other charges.
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hemphill has not been fired or charged. the shelby county district attorney says the investigation is ongoing. more charges could be filed. >> extraordinary quick, in less than three weeks, we went from the incident to filing charges against the five officers who are primarily responsible for the death of tyre nichols and who were on the scene. now, as to everybody else, it's going to take some time as we do that investigation, but i assure you the investigation is ongoing. >> also new, the memphis fire department has fired two emts and a lieutenant after an internal investigation which they found, quote, failed to conduct an adequate patient assessment of mr. nichols after he was pepper strayed. and in moments, don is going to speak one on one with the brother of tyre nichols, jamal dupree. as he meets privately with mahmoud abbas, the two hoping to
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dial backes ka escalating tensi. blinken met with benjamin netanyahu. our nic robertson is live on the west bank. good morning to you. good afternoon to you. when blinken planned the trip, they did not know the level of escalation and violence that he would be descending on? >> reporter: they did not. so he's walked into a really touch situation, not only dealing with israeli's most right wing government under prime minister benjamin netanyahu in decades but now coming to the palestinian authority president who has suspended security cooperation with israel, a very significant move. that happened in the past couple of days, and that's likely to be one of the things that secretary blinken asks the palestinian authority president to do, to go back, begin cooperating security level with israel. it benefits both communities. that will be the message. the message secretary blinken
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will hear from the palestinians very likely, look, please try to convince israeli officials, politicians, benjamin netanyahu and his government not to expand settlements. that aggravates the palestinian street, and as well to not come into palestinian cities. where on thursday, before that palestinian gunman went on to kill seven israelis the day before 9/11 palestinians had been -- nine palestinians had been killed. about what secretary blinken says about the importance of a two-state solution. particularly young people, i talked to an 18-year-old man, we don't think this two state solution is viable or is going to happen. another thing you hear from a lot of people here, they feel the palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas is no longer fit for the task, fit for the job. these are accumulative issues.
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for secretary blinken, that's a lot of heavy diplomatic lifting to shift this in a meaningful way. >> there's a lot of questions about what action can be taken and what blinken can actually do in this situation. we'll hear from him in just about two hours during that press conference. nic, thank you very much. also this morning as former president trump is embarking on his third presidential run in 2024, he is still facing several ongoing investigations. there is the investigation led by the special counsel jack smith, looking into two cases, the importantly mishandling of classified documents at mar-a-lago, and trump's actions during the january 6th attack on the capitol. a federal grand jury is currently hearing testimony in washington, and as cnn first reported yesterday, prosecutors are actively working to gain access to files on a laptop belonging to at least one mar-a-lago staffer close to trump, basically trying to see if there's any kind of electronic paper trail when it comes to the classified documents he took with him. the department of justice is also looking into the efforts by
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trump and others to overturn the 2020 election and incite an insurrection which has resulted in hundreds of criminal indictments and nearly 500 guilty pleas. also, the fulton county district attorney, fani willis is looking into trump's efforts to overturn the election in georgia. she has said that grand jury in that case has recommended multiple indictments. her decision to bring charges is imminent. letitia james is suing president trump and his three elder children, according to james, they misled lenders, insurers and tax authorities to enrich themselves. i should note the trump's have denied any wrong doing in that case. the manhattan district attorney has also started presenting its case to a grand jury about trump's role in hush money payments to former adult actress stormy daniels during the 2016 presidential race. that's according to "the new york times." trump's former attorney, michael
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cohen pleaded guilty to finance charges related to the payments cohen facilitated while working for then candidate trump. let's bring in cnn correspondent kara scannell. we thought the hush money payment wasn't going anywhere, the broader look into trump's business practices. >> what's old is new again. the hush money payment, that's how they started the investigation back in 2019, looking into the hush money payments, and then it expanded, and they took this broader look at the business practices. you know, there's been a change in the district attorney. alvin bragg is now the d.a., he paused that previous investigation because he didn't believe they had enough evidence to bring a criminal case against trump. the burden of proof so much higher. they had the big conviction of two entities for tax fraud. they seem to be emboldened and have picked up the pace with the focus on hush moneys again. we reported that michael cohen went in two weeks ago, and david pecker, the former chairman of
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the "national enquirer" was going in this week, so we're definitely seeing the pace picking. and the focus on hush money. >> allen weisselberg is behind bars. he was on campaign stops, on truth social, talk about it a lot. is it harder to bring charges against trump potentially if they don't have his cooperation? it seems difficult to bring a conviction potentially here. >> they have some trump organization insiders, but allen weisselberg would be the key witness and if he were to testify about his conversations with michael cohen, with the former president around this, that would be significant for the government. i mean, he is in riker's serving this term. they would like his cooperation. he's no longer employed by the trump administration. he's obviously someone they would want and would be so helpful to their investigation. you know, other side their looking to building it around all of these other people using,
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i don't know, documents, records, and michael cohen, of course, although he is a bit of a tainted witness, if they can corroborate what he has, they think that will help his case. >> were you surprised by this or did you kind of see it coming based on conversations you have had with sources. >> i think we've seen this is something that they were, you know, they're still interested in this case. i'm not surprised they're moving forward with the grand jury. they are bringing in people, ramping this up. just because they're presenting does not mean they made a decision to charge, let's be clear about that. i think we're going to see this develop over the next several weeks and months. >> kara scannell, thank you, good reporting. there's a new study warning that the planet could reach critical global warming thresholds sooner than previously predicted and if the world takes serious action to fight climate change. scientists were able to predict future temperatures based on current climate models. the models show that the world
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would exceed a crucial temperature threshold between 2033 and 2035, even if pollution is cut down. chief climate correspondent bill weir is here to do all of this. so explain, artificial intelligence, good morning. >> good morning. it's machine learning. you're hearing about the future of ai and how it's going to change everything for us. scientists from colorado and stanford, they took all of the climate models that science uses to predict what's going to happen. they put that with the historical record, and realized the doom is coming faster than previously predicted. it agrees with the latest ipc assessment that we're going to hit. 1.5 degrees celsius, the crucial tipping point that the world has decided on. by the middle of the next decade or so. by 2035, 2036, but beyond that, where this machine learning differs from the consensus science is that even if
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everything is done, a certain amount of warming is already built in, and we could hit temperatures by 2065 that a lot of people thought weren't coming to the end of the century. >> that's when the world is supposed to reach. it predicted the probability of 80%. the 2 degrees warming will be reached before 2065. even if the world reaches net zero in the next 50 years. what does that mean? >> the number 2 degrees celsius, the prime minister of barbados, that's a death sentence for island nations, she said that at the last cop27. that number was decided on. 1.5 degrees, if we stopped warming there, it would obliterate island nations. so much momentum is built into the system, so little is happening globally, politically, a certain amount of warming is built in, and the lesson to policy makers is brace and try to stop the worst warning. so much can be done to cut the emissions. >> we were showing the river
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there. federal government called on seven western states to agree to a water conservation plan, cut between 2 and 4 million acre feet of water uses to save the colorado river last year. what is going on with the colorado river? >> basically you've got a fight between california and everybody else. seven states in mexico share the colorado. they share it by a compact that was made a century ago after one of the wettest years. the imperial irrigation district, they're entitled to more water that nevada and arizona combined, but the new argument is we don't live in that world anymore. everybody's got to cut back in order to keep the system from crashing, to keep lake mead from hitting dead pool and for that to happen, california has to cut more. this is headed to the supreme court as all of these states line up to force more mandatory cuts for california. >> fascinating, and the role that ai is playing. >> it's a tool.
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it's like a knife or a flame. it could heal or kill, depending on who's holding it. that's what we've got to think about with the new tools. >> bill weir, thank you, sir. always a pleasure. good to see you. you can read more about the study on cnn.com. in france, hundreds of thousands of protesters are taking to the streets. the unions have called for nationwi nationwide strikes. they are angry about the government's plans to raise the retirement age two years to 64. melissa bell joins us live in paris. a lot of people will look at this and say haven't we seen this? and they have. the government hasn't changed its position. >> reporter: no, in fact, determination to see through this. this is at the beginning of the march that set off in half an hour's time. they're setting up themselves there. a lot of noise generally within these demonstrations, and they're preparing to march from
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up there across paris. one of the big questions is going to be how many people they can get out on the streets. the 19th of january was the last big demonstration against this pension reform, more than a million people came out on the streets. this time the trade unions say they intend to get more. their plan to have emmanuel macron back down from this reform that he's pledged to get through by this summer. it's extremely ambitious, given the levels of opposition out on the streets. the unity of the french trade unions but he's determined that it will be through by this summer. by the autumn, poppy, the french retirement age will be raised by two years. the point of the trade unions is to cause enough trouble, enough disruption over the coming weeks that the most reformist of prosecutes is obliged to back down on what was always one of his key reform pledges, poppy. >> always was. melissa bell, live in paris. also this morning in the
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u.s., two of america's biggest auto insurers, progressive and state farm are refusing to write policies for older hyundai and kia models, they lack the theft prevention technology known as electronic immobilizers, making them too easy to steal. cnn's vanessa yurkevich is here now. is this temporary? what is hyundai and kia saying. they can't offer policies anymore? >> for new insurance policies on kia and hyundai vehicles made from 2015 to 2019, they found that it was twice as likely that their models, kia and hyundai would get stolen than a regular vehicle, and it's because of these electronic immobilizers, a chip in the car that connects to an actual physical key, and the models from 2015 to 2019 don't have that. you saw a lot of theft, especially in certain regions around the country. they wouldn't identify which
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regions. this is affecting certain regions in certain states. we saw it on tiktok. there was a kia challenge, people would essentially show you how easy it was to steal a kia. they would use usbs to steal the car. >> not even a key. >> it's that easy. to progressive and state farm saying no new policies. if you have a current policy, they will certainly honor that. and they are also saying that their new vehicles, the ones with the little sort of push buttons, those are good. >> if you own one of these cars and you go to get an insurance policy, there's nothing you can do? >> you can obviously look for another insurer, but kia and hyundai are offering sort of enhanced security for the car. they're not going to fix the problem. they're offering enhanced security. hyundai saying they will give you a free steering wheel lock. >> who wants to do that every time.
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>> that's pretty old school. >> back to the '80s with the big bar. >> imagine you're on a date, wait, one second, let me just -- >> they're not offering you a new car. they're not offering you a better system. but, you know, if you still love your kia or hyundai from 2015, 2016, and on wards, they'll give you that free lock, at least hyundai will. >> thank you, vanessa. appreciate it. up next, a sit-down interview with tyre nichols brother. we're going to get his reaction to more officers being taken off or officials in general being taken off the streets after the violent beating and what he thinks should be done to the officers now facing murder charges. jamal dupree joins us live. that's next. power e*trade's award-winning tradading app makes trtrading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are.
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welcome back to cnn, authorities in lakeland, florida, are asking for the public's help, and offering $5,000 of reward money after a drive-by shooting on monday left ten people shot, two of them in critical condition. police say the suspect fired from a four-door nissan with tinted windows and temporary tags. >> this is something that doesn't happen in lakeland. i have been here 34 years, and i can tell you i have never worked an event where this many people have been shot at one time. ever. >> officials say it was a targeted shooting, and they are now looking for least four males
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who may have been wearing face coverings. more stories are emerging of bystanders who put their lives on the line to disable their attackers. federal guidance says that to run, hide, fight, in an active shooting situation. but now experts are beginning to rethink that advice. cnn's brynn gingras reports now. >> reporter: this is the moment brandon tsay fought back. disarming a gunman in monterey park, california. in colorado springs, it was an army veteran. >> i needed to save my family. >> who helped wrestle away a gun from a shooter at club q nightclub, saving countless lives. james shaw jr. disarmed an active shooter inside a tennessee waffle house in 2018. >> the decision to fight was because there was nothing else for me to lose in that moment. >> reporter: with seemingly daily mass shootings in america, more people are fighting their
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assailants, heroic acts that now have some in the law enforcement community openly saying. >> the time is now to rethink how we prioritize what we're telling people who might find themselves in a mass shooting. >> reporter: you've probably heard these three words, run, hide, fight. >> you can survive a mass shooting. if you're prepared. >> reporter: those tactics from the fbi are echoed to law enforcement agencies across the country. they're used to teach civilians about how to react if confronted by an active shooter. security expert juliette kayyem penned in a recent article, that advice may be dated. >> run if you can, get away if you can, but what we have seen is engagement with the shooter, trying to distract him, trying to demoibilize him, trying to prevent him from reloading his gun, all of those things can help in minimizing the harm. >> 50% of active shooter events end before law enforcement get there. it doesn't even matter how much
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we train for these active events, but it matters a lot on how we train our civilians. >> reporter: franklin county sheriffs deputy mike featherall has adopted a different way of teaching his community on what to do in an active shooter situation. >> you teach avoid, deny, defend. >> correct. >> reporter: how is that different from run, hide, fight? >> hide, that's the big part that is different is people go around looking for targets, and when you have a hero step up, it saves all of those targets from being potential victims. >> reporter: experts recognize fighting back hasn't always worked. in 2019, a north carolina college student charged a gunman and died. a week later, a colorado high school student met the same fate. for shaw, who lived when he fought back. >> everybody's not wired like that. if that's the only thing you can do in that situation, that's the only thing that you can do. >> the more we understand what tactics of engagement do work, the more we can empower people
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to help and protect themselves. >> reporter: look, this is not a comfortable conversation to have. it's not one where you want to tell people just fight and that's really what you should be doing in these active shooter situations, but everyone i talked to for this story basically says, listen, this is where we are right now. we're seeing active shooting situations almost daily, and so now it's really about changing the mentality, and that's what the focus is on this, getting sort of a different plan in your head of what actually might be working and what they're looking at, there's no statistics for this, it's anecdotal what they're seeing, that fight option is working, in recently cases. >> thank you, brynn, appreciate that. up next, i'm going to speak with tyre nichols brother. plus this. >> this campaign will be about the future. >> former president trump promising to focus on new beginnings for 2024, but he's still dwelling on past grievances, the concerns i'm hearing from his allies and his
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welcome back, everyone. fallout from the deadly police beating of tie refyre nichols, including the firing of three memphis fire department personnel and an announcement that seven police officers were placed on leave as calls nationwide grow louder for police reform. i'm joined in the first tv interview, jamal dupree. i appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you very much. jamal, i'm sorry you're dealing with this, and i just am grateful that you're on to talk about your brother and his legacy and what you want to happen from this. so thank you for joining us this morning. so listen, your brother died three weeks ago, how are you holding up? what has this been like for you these last few weeks? >> well, for the most part, it's just been a real roller coaster
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ride. it's like a never ending nightmare, and, you know, we just try every day, me and my family and my sisters and my brothers, we just trying every day to just take one step each day. that's all. >> one step each day. what do you want people to know about him? >> i mean, what the people don't know about him. i mean, my brother's legacy is everywhere right now. everybody knows that he my brother was an innocent person. everybody knows that my brother was filled with energy. he was like the light of the room, you know. he cared about people. he put people before he put h hisself, he was selfless, he was all around a great person to be around. and you know, it sucks that this happened to him. you know, like, some people in
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this world you just feel like that should never happen. it should never happen to anybody, but at the same time, it's like when you see a person like that and you know a person like that, it's just -- it just takes a toll on you different because he was really a people person. you know, he was a people pleaser. and, yeah, like the world is going to miss a person like that. >> yeah. i know that you've been very outspoken in what you believe should happen to these officers who are charged with murder. what do you think should happen? >> most definitely. i mean, i hope they meet the same fate as my brother. that's just how i feel. you know, i mean, i don't know what the laws is in tennessee or whatnot, but for me, i believe they deserve the death penalty.
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>> what was your reaction when you saw that video? >> that's the thing, i haven't watched it. but i already knew from looking at my brother, i already knew how they treated him. because i've seen it all over the world. i've seen it right here in california all the time. police brutality is nothing new. and i already knew, as soon as i seen them photos from him in the hospital, i already knew that they treated my brother like an animal. they beat on him like he was nothing. i don't have to watch the video to know that. so yeah. >> you said on facebook, you posted that basically saying that you were sorry that you weren't there to protect your brother. are you feeling guilty about not being there? >> most definitely. always, always. and i think i speak for all of
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my siblings when i say that because my brother -- i'm 99% sure my brother has never gotten into a fight before, you know, and the one time he get into an altercation with other humans, we wasn't there to protect him. you know, growing up as kids, you know, having older brother or older sister and you get into an altercation, your older brother, your older sister would be there to help you, and on this night, what was it, january 7th, my brother was left alone. because if i was there, they would have had to kill me too because i would have fought all of them. my brother was trying to cooperate with them. i would have fought back with them. >> ben, let me bring you into the conversation because you know there have been many developments. they seem to come every single day. there are three memphis fire
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department personnel who have been fired. there are also two other officers now are on leave pending an administrative hearing. what's your response to that, and what questions do you have about it? >> well, don, i think as tyre's family, and certainly jamal have been calling for from the beginning, every last one of them should be held accountable for this police lynching of tyre nichols. everybody who was on that scene who contributed in any way should be held fully accountable, and the fact that they relieved the two officer weeks ago, it was no transparent, only brings further questions as to why the five black officers were fired and
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charged, and why weren't the others not charged, and so the family wants full accountability. >> did you see the original police report and then considering what the video shows, how does that line up, ben? >> well, it is consistent with ms. rowvaughn, tyre's mother said from the beginning, they could not go to the hospital because tyre was pepper sprayed and had been arrested. she said then, and she's a very sincere person, she said she believed she thought it was a conspiracy to cover it up from the beginning. >> ben, i've got to ask you, there's a lot of stuff out there, and i just -- in the spirit of accuracy, right, and good journalism, did tyre have any personal connection to the
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officers or do you believe that this was completely random? >> don, the family knows nothing about these rumors. what we do know is that you saw multiple officers violating his civil rights, and we don't have to speculate about anything because they were operating under the color of law. and these police officers know that you cannot violate people's civil rights, don lemon, and this is nothing new to this spokes scorpion unit, when you think about the other citizens who say they were attacked like that. this is a pattern and practice of police brutality, period, point-blank. >> jamal, before we go, i just want to know is there anything you want people to know about your brother or what you want to see next from this?
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>> you know, i believe everybody knows my brother now. i've seen stuff on my brother from all across the country, even across the world, to be honest, and i think people really know that my brother did not deserve this. he was not that type of person. yeah, he was just, man, like, yeah, he was just a good guy around the board, so people know who he is, and, again, i'm going to say the same thing i have been saying, we want justice. we want everybody that was involved with this to, you know, get that sentence, like. >> jamal, thank you. please give our regards to your family. ben, thank you as well. give our regards, especially ms. rowvaughn and mr. rodney, we will speak to you soon as this
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continues. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> what do you think? >> i think it's tough. obviously. i think this family under the circumstances, i mean, i have to commend the way that they have handled themselves. look, i'm in the business of being on television every day. and in something like this happened to a loved one, just someone i knew, i don't know if i would have the strength to be able to come on television and open my heart and bear my worst fears in front of the world. >> yeah, and you know what really stood out to me was what he was talking about, being an older brother and being there for your siblings. it's so relatable for so many people to think about that relationship and what impact that has had on you. >> i just think it's an extraordinary family. you do these interviews. how do they do it? >> i don't know, that's what my husband says to me, how do these people open up in the way they do.
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tyre's parents, they're going to be at the state of the union. >> they're going to be at the state of the union. >> we'll be there covering in d.c. >> we'll have to figure it out. >> listen, when i spoke to the pastor, not who is giving the eulogy because al sharpton is giving the eulogy, but he said he believes it's been for the family and the community, in a way it has helped people because they get their feelings out, and they feel like they have a platform and it gives them at least some feeling of having some sort of power at least in this particular situation, so. >> it's a great interview. >> yep. up next this morning, we're going to talk about former president trump and whether or not he can focus his campaign on the future or if he's stuck in the past like some of his advisers believe. >> they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. they're sending people who are killers, who are murders. they're sending rapists.
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focused on the future, but there are some grievances he can't just quit. >> we're going to restore election integrity, we have to. you go to new york, nobody ever gets prosecuted. i'm the only one they go after. sending people that are killers, murders, they're sending rapists and they're sending frankly terrorists. we have a woke military that can't fight or win. and the wind turbines are all made in china. they said he's not doing rallies, he's not campaigning. maybe he's lost that step. i'm more angry now, and more committed now than i ever was. >> that was not from trump's first campaign or his second one. that was from last weekend. several of has allies are telling me they're worried he's stuck in the past and are concerned about the viability of his third run. their message to him has been to
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move forward, tone down his messages, stick to the teleprompter in those speeches but i'm told he's pushing back on that advice, arguing that he believes his message is strong enough, and he doesn't think any republicans should actually challenge him for the nomination. right now he's having a hard time convincing some people to join his campaign. a source says three people have been offered jobs on the 2024 trump campaign, but turned them down suggesting maybe they'll join later on. no one knows more than illinois republican congressman, adam k kinzinger, alyssa farrar. you saw the message, i'm angrier than ever. is that the start to the 2024 trump campaign, do you think? >> like, it was a funny quote if not totally scary. you don't want your elected officials to be running on a message of i am angry, and not angry over righteous things, you know, poverty, homelessness, whatever it might be, but angry because of his own personal grievances that he didn't win
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the election in 2020. this has been a bad launch from the start for trump, and -- >> why do you think so? >> low energy. we all watched the launch that day, and it didn't come with a lot of fanfare, it took him over two months to even do a campaign event. he can't pull the rally events, you covered many of them. he can't pull the audience he once did. but point of caution, he's still polling the highest. as long as he has the 30% lock, i don't see how anyone can beat him. >> what do you think of how he has returned to the campaign trail. it has been a slow start. these were his first formal events of the year. >> he's tired, he's aged. he's running the same script, there's teleprompter trump and off teleprompter trump. teleprompter trump may talk a said with this i'm angry and negativity, that works sometimes in an election. it doesn't work all the time in
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an se election /* an election. leaders have to put optimism out there. when he talks down the u.s. military. i disagree with some of the stuff that happens in the u.s. military as a military member. we spend half our time doing computer-based training. to listen to the former president say we can't defeat enemies any more, that's worse than the old, you know, malaise in america kind of thing. he is the frontrunner as of now. no one else is declared they are running. i wonder is this something that would biden on the cusp announcing he is going to run for re-election this will be a concern for him? is he worried? >> i think if you are joe biden and you are the white house you are happy to see this president once again edngage in grievance politics that say more about him as a person, his character detects, than about the people and the institutions he is criticizing. when is he going to make the
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affirmative case why he should get a second term in the white house? by that person, i mean donald trump, of course. i don't think he is capable of doing that. a lot of the stuff he wants to do is not particularly popular to begin with. he will keep trying to divide, but i don't think it's going anywhere because he is no different from the guy voters rejected in 2020. >> that's what his allies have been saying, you need to change your message. last night lindsey graham was asked about the possibility of other republicans getting in the race. he said he is still betting on trump. >> to all these people who are very talented, i don't think you could do what he did and i want him to have another shot, unfinished business. we need to get ready for a spirited contest. why trump? you mentioned like desantis, if you tell me that ron desantis is not a good governor in florida, i am not going to listen to you. if you try to tell me mike
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pompeo is not qualified to be president, i am not going to listen to you because i think he is. i am for trump not because of the flaws of anybody else. i am for donald trump because i know what i'm going to get. >> i know what i'm going to get, insurrection? trying to overthrow american democracy? it's, listen, there are some core supporters who will always be with him. i think there will be a contest, how big it is, unclear. there are people who will put their names in the ring. if you run as frump light, this is my concern with desantis who polls the closest to trump, he takes up all the oxygen in the room. you have to have a clearly defined lane. acsa hutchinson, youngkin, sununu, they have their own record and vision to run on. i caution against the giant field we saw in 2016 that cleared the way for donald trump. >> lindsey graham, by the way, i
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traveled with lindsay. we used to be in the same mindset on foreign policy and things like that, kind of the john mccain way of looking at the world. where he has gone now i completely don't understand. he knows what january 6th was. he knows what donald trump isn't capable of, which is true leadership. for me it's just so disappointing every day to watch somebody who, frankly, talented. lindsey graham was able to really bring people that would be considered independents, soft democrats and he has gone all in. >> why? >> probably just to survive south carolina. look, he is a -- he wants to stay in senate the rest of his life. there is nothing inherently wrong with that. the only way to do that is make it through a primary in south carolina. when the trump thing is out of vogue in the party, he will go back to being what he needs to be to re-elected. >> there was a moment that caught people's attention,
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elizabeth warren was asked about biden running again and asked about vice president harris and whether or not she belongs on the 2024 ticket. this is her answer. >> should she run again? he will be 86. >> if he is that old in a second term the vice presidency is so important. >> i want to defer to what makes biden comfortable on his team. i have known kamala for a long time. i like kamala. i knew her back when she was attorney general and i was still teaching. and we worked on the housing crisis together. so we go way back. but they need -- they have to be a team. and my sense is they are. i don't mean that by suggesting i think there are any problems. >> that's not how the white house took it. she put out a statement saying she didn't imply they are not a great team.
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that was a moment that wasn't as emphatic of an endorsement as people think it shouldk. >> i think people read too much it. i don't think that there is any reason that she or anyone else would believe that the president would not run with his vice president for a second term. there are concerns within the party. i mean, that's -- that's obvious. >> about what? >> people wonder about, you know, her popularity. the fact is she won on the ticket back in 2020. if anything, they have more to run on in order to be able to survive a challenge by donald trump or i think many of the other people like ron desantis who are thinking about running and i think you will see that happen. >> does she help or hurt biden on the ticket. >> i think she helps with certain demographics and she's, you know, her -- but ultimately-tof of the ticket
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