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back to their habitat, because when you take them out of their habitats, they're kind of creatures of nature, so they need to be out in their habitat. >> good morning. i think this is a question that everybody has been asking, like, all of these animals disappearing in the cages being tampered with. what the heck is happening at america's zoos. we have two monkeys that went missing in dallas. 12 squirrel monkeys taken in louisiana and an exotic toucan stolen in florida. we're going to have much more on this. and this cnn exclusive, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu making several major headlines in his one on one sit-down with our very sewn jake tapper. was israel behind the mysterious attack on iran's sites and weapons program, and will netanyahu become a mediator between russia and ukraine as this war rages on? also this morning, we have new revelations in the brutal police beating of tyre nichols, as his family and the city of memphis is preparing to mourn today in his funeral, happening just hours from now.
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plus, a relentless and deadly ice storm is wreak havoc all across the south. more than 1,000 flights already canceled today. is there any relief in the forecast? we will get you there and talk about that. but we start this morning in memphis, where the heartbroken family of tyre nichols is preparing for his funeral, as the nation looks on, still reeling from the horrific police beating he endured. last night, we saw his parents demand justice from the same spot the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. gave his final mountaintop speech on the eve of his assassination. and the fallout just keeps growing. cnn has obtained the initial police report which paints a much different picture from what we all witnessed on that video. cnn has also learned the city of memphis is preparing to release even more videos. straight now to memphis, live for us, right outside the church where the funeral will take place, and that is our ryan young. ryan, good morning to you. as we prepare for tyre's funeral, lots of developments in this case. what are you learning?
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>> well, don, it's hard to imagine it's been a week since you were sitting here in memphis and talking to the family and ben crump about all of the developments here. and you, of course, talked to the chief. now that we're looking at this incident report, you can see several things that sort of stand out. the officers really never mentioning that they went up in level of force against tyre. when you also look at the fact that they said that he was sweating profusely and irate upon exiting the vehicle. when you watch the video, you can see it's actually the officers that approached that car with so much aggression. going on from there, it said that nichols grabbed for officer martin's gun and listed martin as a victim. those are things that stood out to us. they say in memphis when you have to do excessive force or go up in terms of meeting, in terms of meeting a suspect, you're supposed to put that in the report. all of this surrounding a funeral that's going to have the nation's eyes on it, as vice president harris will be here as well. but listen to tyre's brother yesterday talk about the pain they're feeling and the one they love so much.
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>> my brother was the most peaceful person who's ever -- he's never lifted a finger to nobody. never raised his voice to nobody. if my brother was here today, and if he had to say something, he would tell us to do this peacefully. >> don, we wanted to show you this video of tyre skateboarding. so much of the video has been shown with him engaged with those officers, in that hospital bed. it's great to see this video of him when he was alive. today focus will be on his life and it's the images of happiness and that skateboarding we should all remember for this young man. on top of that, don, you talked about it a little bit, the winter storm may play some role in all of this today, because obviously folks are worried about people getting to this funeral because of all the ice that's on the streets. >> ryan young, thank you very
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much. house republicans hold their first oversight and judiciary hearings today, using their new power to launch investigations into the biden administration and democrats. the gop is hoping to tackle everything from the border crisis to pandemic spending. and could also issue subpoenas as part of these probes. cnn's elana terrain is live on capitol hill. welcome to cnn, especially coming on "cnn this morning" for the first time. this is the first time we'll be seeing the senate gop in action. what are you going to be looking for? >> well, thank you, kaitlan. there's been a lot of attention leading up to today's hearings. it's being seen as the first chance for members in both parties to test drive their messaging and see how these committees will operate on the public stage for the first time. republicans james comer and jim jordan, the top republicans on the most high-profile committees want to be seen as serious chairman who are approaching these investigations in a methodical way. and you can see that strategy with the topics and the themes of these hearings. the house oversight committee will be doing a hearing on waste
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and abuse in pandemic spending. and the oversight committee will be looking at the border. and these are issues that republicans have vowed repeatedly throughout their time in the minority to investigate if they were to take the majority. and there are also issues that are really important to the republican base. but at the same time, they're not the type of, you know, overtly political themes that we know are coming, things like the hunter biden investigation or classified documents, even though those topics will have their time. today, republicans are hoping that these themes will show an air of legitimacy and really dig into substantial policy issues. mike johnson of louisiana, a member of the judiciary committee has told me that they rends they need to walk a tightrope with these hearings and are really trying to not scare a lot of voters by being overtly political from the get-go. >> that's going to be a struggle for them, but for democrats on these committees, how are they expected to handle these investigations and these hearings?
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>> democrats tell me they don't want to just play defense, they want to go on offense. you can kind of see that strategy with the leaders that they've chosen to serve on these committees. i mean, take jamie raskin. he is the democrat who served on both of the trump impeachment trials and was a fixture in those hearings, as well as a member of the january 6th committee. and he's really, he's told me that he wants to debunk and refute and he's prepared to really have his team serve as a truth squad against a lot of the republicans and the potential political nature that these investigations might take on. you have dan goldman, another fixture of the impeachment hearings for donald trump. he was the lead counsel during the first trump impeachment trial. and aoc, i mean, one of the best communicators for democrats. she's going to be really taking a lead role in pushing back against the right. >> sounds like you are going to be very busy, elena. thank you so much. i'm so glad you're here joining us at cnn. >> thank you, kaitlan. next hour, we'll talk more about this with the republican whip, tom elmer, and the chair
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of the judiciary committee, dick durbin. this morning, ice storm and warnings for them are expanding all across the state of texas. this is as the extreme weather there wreaks havoc on roads. the national weather service is urging everyone in the warning areas to avoid driving, if possible. so far, two people have already died in accidents as sleet piled on top of ice and cars were backed up at least ten miles down this texas highway, as jack knifed semi trucks blocked both lanes of traffic. a similar scene in oklahoma, where icy roads caused this truck to lose control. luckily, that cable barrier kept him out of oncoming traffic and he was not injured. let's go to led lavendera. he joins us again this morning with more. we had you yesterday. now you're at the airport, yikes. it's going to be hard for those planes to get deiced and get out of there. yikes? what are we looking? >> reporter: we're at the dfw national airport where there were hundreds of flight cancellations yesterday. already 1,200 flight
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cancellations because of this winter storm. yesterday, that number topped out around 2,000 flight cancellations. most of those happening here at dallas-ft. worth international, dallas love field as well as the austin international airport, as well. and so those nightmares will continue and i can tell you that a drive that would normally take me about half an hour to get here to the dfw airport took well over an hour this morning, with no traffic on the road. and that is one of the good things that we've seen in the last 24 hours, most people heeding those warnings of staying off the roadways. that's because this winter weather will continue to worsen again today. we've had a bit of a reprieve over last 15 hours or so. but a third round of wintry mix expected to move through the dallas-ft. worth area in the coming hours. that will just prolong this nightmare. it could be well into thursday before there's really any kind of relief from the icy road conditions that we've seen.
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and there has been so much sleet and wintry mix that has fallen on the roadways and the cold temperatures. everything is very much hardened up. so it's going to take some time to recover from all of this, poppy. >> ed, thank you to you and your team for being out there and that reporting. don? well, this morning, alec baldwin officially facing involuntary manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting on the "rust" movie set. prosecutors allege baldwin was not properly trained to handle the weapon that killed cinematographer halyna hutchins and that he showed a reckless disregard for safety. cnn's josh campbell live in los angeles with more. josh, good morning to you. how is baldwin responding to the charges? >> reporter: i reckon, don, that his team will be aggressively fighting these charges. we knew the charges were coming, perhaps less expected was the amount of detail that prosecutors put into this charging document as they portrayed a movie set that was plagued by safety violations, even using alec baldwin's own words, his professed expertise in firearms in the film-making
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industry and contrasting that with safety incident after safety incident that allegedly violates the film-making industry's standards. but again, for his part, at this point, there's been no talk of a plea deal. we expect that his team will be putting up an aggressive defense. >> we need help immediately. >> reporter: baldwin and the film's armorer, hanna gutierrez reid, are charged with two counts each of involuntary manslaughter in the accidental shooting death of hutchins. >> one female shot in the chest. >> reporter: after ammunition from a gun baldwin was using hit hutchins, killing her, and injuring director joel souza. the charging documents released tuesday said that baldwin was not present for mandatory firearms and safety training before filming. reed stating that baldwin had only minimal training on the gun he was using. the actual training was for only 30 minutes, as reed said that baldwin was distracted.
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the documents also indicate that according to expert armore eers w with, a plastic gun should be fired. this was a key charge. >> they shouldn't have even been using a live gun that day. they should have been using a rubber or a plastic gun. all of these things go together and show that there was just this complacency, lack of care on that set, and it's more than negligence. and i would say it rises to recklessness. >> reporter: hutchins was shot and killed outside of santa fe on october 21st, 2021. on the day the assistant director dave hall yelled cold gun, and who pulled it from a holster. the scene called for baldwin to point the gun towards the camera and at 1:50 p.m., a live round was fired, hitting hutchins in the chest. >> do you know how the live round actually got on the set? >> we don't. and we might not ever know the answer to that question.
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they somehow got loaded into a gun, handed off to alec baldwin, he didn't check it, he didn't do any of the things that he was supposed to do to make sure that he was safe or that anyone around him was safe. and then he pointed the gun at halyna hutchins and he pulled the trigger. >> the fbi determined that six live rounds were later discovered on the set, according to documents filed by the district attorney. baldwin says that he will fight the charges and has denied he pulled the trigger the day of the shooting, telling cnn last year -- >> i never once said -- never -- that the gun went off in my hand automatically. i always said i pulled the hammer back and i pulled it back as far as i could. i never took a gun and pointed it at somebody and clicked the thing. >> reporter: but according to the charging documents, the fbi crime lab determined that the weapon could not accidentally fire. for the weapon to fire, the hammer had to be depressed or pressed. baldwin through an attorney said he was assured that the gun did not have live rounds and blames the armorerer and the assistant
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director. his d >> now, we've learned that the film's assistant director david halls has signed a plea agreement to a misdemeanor charge. he's expected to receive six months of probation. as far as what happens to alec baldwin's next and the film's armorerer, the district attorney says that they will receive a summons and be required to appear before a new mexico court either in person or by video conference and we expect both will be entering pleas of not guilty, john. >> josh campbell, thank you. well, russia is preparing for, quote, maximum escalation of the war in ukraine in the coming weeks. that is according to a top ukrainian national security official, who says that the russians are gathering materials and doing drills in preparation for what comes next. this all comes as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu tells our very own jake tapper that he would consider serving as a mediator for russia and
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ukraine, but not unless he is asked. >> if i'm asked by both sides, and frankly, if i'm asked by the united states, because i think, you know, you can't have too many cooks in the kitchen, you know, and i'm -- you know, we have our own backyard to deal with. >> right. >> it's not that i don't think this is of monumental importance, as the peace of the world is at stake, as i think the peace of the world is at stake with iran getting nuclear weapons. it will destabilize the entire world. if asked by all relevant parties, i'll certainly consider it. but i'm not pushing myself in, you know, which is -- >> let's get right to cnn political and national security analyst, david sanger. he's also white house national security correspondent for "the new york times." david, good morning and thank you so much. i think you need the context behind netanyahu saying that to determine how significant that may or may not be, the fact that
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they have really hedged to not upset vladimir putin too much. they have condemned russia's actions, but also only provided, you know, things that aren't weaponry and being criticized for that in terms of how they've aided ukraine. so given that, how significant is what he told jake? >> well, good morning. i think that anybody who could step in and mediate here, that would be welcome. and you can imagine a situation in which there might be a role for the new prime minister, prime minister netanyahu given the fact that he's got a close relationship with putin and not many western leaders do. but it's that same close relationship that complicates this. elsewhere in jake's terrific interview, you hear prime minister netanyahu say, well, you know, we've got a complicated relationship with russia, we're both dealing with syria, we're both in syria, and so forth. and it's that nature of that
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leadership has really kept israel on the fence here, along with india and some other countries. and they have not provided ukraine with almost anything, except very defensive weapons, and you can imagine given the missile attacks how a lot of israeli technology might be very useful to ukraine. >> david, one thing that stood out to me, he needed to be asked by the russians and the ukraines to step in, but also the united states. do you think that's going to happen? >> i think the russians at this point show no particular interest in having a negotiated settlement, as your earlier report indicated, kaitlan, they're getting ready to do a big offensive here. the u the ukrainians are getting ready for a big counterdefensive. so there's been no diplomacy underway. because both believe that they could get the advantage. and they would not want to go to
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the bargaining table until they had the upper hand. and that's why i'm fearful that this is a year of long, grinding w war. also, after many months in which the russians have been on retreat, they finally seem to have at least found their footing a bit, and i think there's a lot of concern here in washington that the sheer numbers and weight of what they're going to throw at this offensive could begin to swing things back in their direction a bit. >> one wonders, is there really a solution to all of this? there's growing concerns both here and in israel about israel's move to the right, that somehow it's becoming more isolatist, you know, more conservative, moving away from its democratic roots. and benjamin netanyahu says, listen, i'm not going to get hung up on peace negotiations with the palestinians, saying that he has opted for a different approach. so to what end to any of this, if he doesn't appear to be open to what the biden administration is saying, a two-state solution.
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>> don, it's a fascinating question, and just the right question. i thought some of the most interesting parts of jake's interview were netanyahu's defense of this effort to alter the law so that supreme court rulings in israel could be overridden by just a majority in israel's parliament, the knesset. and that, of course, would basically neuter the supreme court as a force that's moderating this, as you say, most right-wing government we have seen in israel. i think the other thing that was really missing in netanyahu's responses in jake's interview was any sort of a peace plan or interest in a peace negotiation. he said nothing other than, we're there to guarantee security. >> yeah, it was remarkable. but i mean, it also comes at a
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time that this hasn't been a huge priority for the biden administration, either. it was a fascinating interview overall. david, thank you for joining us this to analyze it. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, kaitlan. and also this morning, we're going to have more of jake tapper's exclusive interview in the next hour, we'll show you that. you don't want to miss it. also this morning, new video, a deposition video with former president trump, where he invoked the fifth amendment more than 400 times. he wasn't so tight-lipped when indica it came to calling out his former attorney, though. michael cohen is here and will join us live, that's next. ♪ at zales, the diamond store. how do i do itit all? with a little help. and to support my family's immune health, i choose airborne. unlike some others, airborne gives you vamin c and so mucmore. immune support formula. airbornedo more.
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newly released video shows former president trump during an august deposition with a new york attorney general's office. trump was deposed as part of the attorney general letitia james' civil investigation into the trump organization's business practices. former president trump invoked the fifth more than 400 times. >> i decline to answer the question. i decline to answer the question. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer. same answer.
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same answer. same answer. >> that was -- yeah. in the deposition, former president trump also took swipes at his former personal attorney, michael cohen. >> letitia james relied on the testimony of michael cohen, a convicted felon and liar. this is the witness, a stone-cold loser, a real loser, that's used to justify her obsessive work. >> so, cohen is a key figure in several investigations and the new york ag's investigation into trump started after cohen testified to congress. this was in 2019, when he said this. >> it was my experience that mr. trump ininflated his total assets when it served his purposes. and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes. >> so here in manhattan, the district attorney has convened a grand jury to present evidence in a revamped investigation to the effort to stop stormy
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daniels from going public about an alleged affair with trump. cohen facilitated the payments and was reimbursed by the trump organization. he pleaded guilty to nine federal charges, including campaign finance violations, and was sentenced to three years in prison. here's what trump said in 2018 about the payment. >> do you know about the $130,000 to stormy daniels? >> no. >> then why did michael cohen make it if there was no -- >> you would have to ask michael cohen. >> trump's former personal attorney michael cohen joins me now. he is the author of the book, "revenge." you can buy it now and he is here to discuss what is going on. thank you very much. i really appreciate you joining us. i want to get your reaction to this. >> it's expected. donald cannot keep track of the lies that he tells, so what
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better way to stop a fool from being deposed and hurting himself further than telling him to plead the fifth at least 400 times. >> so, listen, this new -- i shouldn't say new investigation, but would you call it a revamped investigation now? how would you describe it? >> let's say, reinvigorated. >> so let's say, your role in the stormy daniels payments, right, you call it the hush money payment. remind our viewers what your role was. >> i was contacted by david pecker in regard to stormy daniels. she then -- and that goes back into early, the 2011 period. but then again, right before the election. i was then asked by donald to handle it with allen weisselberg. and what this really meant for me was to resolve it. so i did, but i did it at the direction of and for the benefit of donald j. trump. >> david pecker was the enquirer. >> that's correct. >> weiselberg is --
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>> the cfo of the trump organization. >> which has faced repercussions for -- >> and is now sitting in rikers island. >> okay. so a lot of this is centered on you, this reinvigorated investigation that you talk about. how were you contacted and what happened when you -- with your interactions with the dac.a.'s office? >> i had dealt with the d.a. 13 times prior to my most recent revisit to the d.a. my first time under the breg administration. they contacted me, most recently, they asked for my cell phones, because they want to be able to extract from it the voice recordings that i had had with keith davidson, former attorney to stormy daniels before michael avenue natti, sot way it could be used as evidence if they proceed forward. which i suspect they are. >> you turned over a lot of information -- >> i didn't turn it over, i was raided by the fbi and they took
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it. >> so this is new stuff that you turned over to -- >> it's the same stuff, but new to the district attorney. they've seen some of it, but now they're in full possession of it. >> okay. people are wondering why donald trump has not faced any sort of repercussions for -- you went to prison, he did not. how do you view this investigation? what is his culpability here. do you think that he will face consequences for this investigation? >> so i've said all along that i thought the d.a.'s case is by far the simplest to prove and it is the most destructive to donald trump individually and to his business, as well. i do believe that he will see repercussions for the first time in almost his entire life. we've seen quite a few cases now, whether it's weisselberg's incarceration, whether it's the 17 counts against the trump organization, and now with the attorney general's case, i think we're going to see a lot of
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repercussion to donald trump. >> why do you believe that and what does that look like? >> remember, the attorney general's case is civil in nature and people make the constant mistake of $250 million. that's the base that they're talking about. that's not the max. i think it will be more in the neighborhood of $700 million, based upon at least the information that i know. >> 700 million what? in terms of what? >> in fines. >> $700 million in fines? >> that's correct. i think that's what tish james' case will ultimately demonstrate. >> why should anyone believe michael cohen? michael cohen is a convicted felon? >> yes, that's true. and i'm convicted because the former president got his pecker pulled by a porn star. i was directed to pay the hush money payments, which i was reimbursed. i'm the only one that suffered. in my book, i go into great lengths about the improper prosecution that i received. it was 48 hours that either you plead guilty or we file an
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80-page indictment that includes your wife and anyone that knows me, especially donald, who's the one that i believe set this is up with bill barr, everybody knows that i would give my life for my wife. >> well, there are two main people in this scenario. and that's you and stormy daniels, basically, right? >> yes. >> and then -- band your testimony in front of congress was the basis for, a big part of this investigation. >> yes. in fact, my house oversight testimony brought on more than 11 different investigations. and many of them have now resulted in -- the results that many people in america want to see. >> is there anything else we should know about the manhattan -- i want to play this sound bite. >> the one where he calls me a stone-cold loser, which, by the way, is ignorant in and of itself. stone-cold is like a stone-cold killer, not a stone-cold loser. >> i was talking about alvin bragg. >> oh, okay. >> we interviewed alvin bragg
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just a couple of weeks ago and here's what he had to say. watch. >> is that correct that you are looking to jump-start that criminal inquiry? >> well, so, first, i want to take issue with the word "jump-start." >> it's "the times'" word, not ours. >> i understand. we have been continuously working with rigor throughout the year and you're going to be maybe displeased with the answer, because i'm not going to -- we have not confirmed or denied -- as you said, that's "the times'" reporting. we're working on a number of pieces and perspectives with this. i guess that this is one chapter, an important chapter. but there are a lot of, you know, tentacles, if you will. we're following the facts where they go. >> you said in, to the "new york times," and also, in other interviews, i've heard you saying that this was just a chapter and people shouldn't read ahead in the book. i'm wondering what that means? because that sort of looks like people are saying, like you're saying to people, stay tuned, there's something on the horizon. >> so, you know, what i'm saying is, let's pause for the moment, as we are.
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it's very consequential, the work that went into this, how ably the people in the state of new york were represented. but as i said back in april, there's other work going on. and we're continuing that. it wasn't paused. we've been doing it. >> so you've been saying a similar thing, since december, maybe even before, that you believe that there's more. is there more even beyond this investigation, this reinvigorated investigation, as you call it? >> one thing i can say about alvin bragg, he's very tight-lipid and his office is very tight lipped. what they're working on outside of my involvement, obviously, i have no idea and they're certainly not sharing it with me. what i can tell you is that if you even look back to the cyrus vance investigation, they believed, as do i, that there's more than enough to immediately indict donald regarding the campaign finance violation, the mush money payments, not just, by the way, to stormy daniels,
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but let's not forget, there was a second case, the karen mcdougal case, which i also was charged, plead guilty to, which i didn't pay. that was paid once again by ami, "national enquirer" and david pecker. i just reviewed the agreement to ensure trump was protected. but there's more than one campaign finance violation. >> michael, i've got to let you go. before you go, nikki haley is going to, it is reported, throw her hat into the ring for president. do you think she can beat donald trump? >> i think anybody can beat donald. and i also don't think he's going to run. i think this is part of the great donald grift, because this is where he's making his money these days. >> he is technically run, but you don't think -- >> filed a one-page form. that's about it so far. >> michael cohen, appreciate it. >> good to see you, don. >> thank you very much. as tyre nichols' parents prepare to lay their son to rest, we're going to be joined by two women who carry that same burden of grief. the mother of eric garner and gary hopkins jr. whose sons both died at the hands of police.
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keep fighting for justice for my son and my family. protect my wife, because she's very fragile right now. we need that for her, trust me. >> i need it, too. we've got a long fight ahead of us. and we've got to stay strong for her. so, just for tyre. >> that's tyre nichols' stepfather calling for strength and justice ahead of his stepson's funeral which is this morning. he says that tyre's wife, his mother, is fragile after her son was brutally beaten by police and died three days later. she is now in a group that no parent wants to be a part of, black men who die at the hands of police officers. eric garner died in 2014 after he was put in an unauthorized choke hold by an nypd officer. his last words, "i can't breathe" became a rallying cry. marion grey hopkins is a member
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of that group, too. her unarmed teenage son gary hopkins jr. was killed by a police officer in maryland in 1999. he was attend ding a dance at a local fire station after losing his father to bone cancer just two weeks earlier. thank you very much. gwen, marion for being with us today. >> thank you. thank you for having us. >> thank you for the invitation. >> and marion, i know you wanted to be in memphis today for the funeral and you couldn't make it because of weather. and gwen, you're there. so let me start with you, gwen, about why you are there. and then marion, why you hope to be there. >> yes, well, i'm here to stand in solidarity with the family. we know that the family needs all the support that they can get at this time. we know that they are over overwhelmed by the death of their son, as i was when it happened to me. and it's so fresh for them, but for me, it just digs into old
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wounds. and i have to live my son's death over again. and it's just not fair to us. it's not fair that we have to suffer at the hands of the police that are not doing their job and lose our children. >> re-traumatizing every single time. marion, what about you? why were you trying so hard to be there? >> i was trying hard to be there, because i have been in the shoes of miss wells. and i know the main. and i know the need to have someone there that understands your pain. i was led to be there and unfortunately, i was unable to get there due to the weather conditions there. but i wanted to be there to just to let that mother know that she's not alone. that there are so many of us across this nation who stands with her. >> yeah. listen, i've just got to be honest with you, i -- you know,
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i've interviewed mothers after so many of these awful police incidents, and i just wonder how many more times does this have to happen before something is done, that we sit on television and we do these interviews with the mothers who are in grief, mothers who have been in grief from years ago, you know, from past incidents. and i just wonder how often we have to do this, because as poppy said, it's re-traumatizing for the country, but even more so, especially for the parents and the loved ones of these young men. gwen, i'll let you speak first. >> yes, this has to stop. it seems like they make a mockery and it keeps on happening. and that's why we stand with the mothers who are traumatized because of these unfortunate incidents. but, you know, we have to keep on fighting. we have to get laws changed. we have to get rid of bad
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policing. and a lot of times they say, we're going to do more training, it's not the training. it is the attitudes and the agendas of the police officers who are on duty at that time, the one who commit these heinous crimes. those are the ones that we have to get rid of so that we will have better action in our society. and we don't need to keep getting victimized by bad policing. >> marion? >> well, i would say that this is happening, as you mentioned that is happening over and over again. those cases that go over the national tv air waves, but we know that this is happening over and over and there's over a thousand killings over year by police across this nation. so it's not isolated. and we need to address it
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nationally. we have looked at putting in legislation and laws within individual states, but this is a national crisis that needs to be addressed if we are to stop this killing. we're tired of just hashtags. we're tired of just justice for this loved one, justice for that loved one. but we are asking or we are demanding that change be made at a national level if we're going to stop this heinous killings and egregious killings of our loved ones. >> i'm so glad both of you are here, because your perspective on this is like no one else's frankly. and i wonder what both of you made about how the city of memphis handled this. how officials handled -- whow te information came out, what they said later, what we heard from officials. gwen, i'll start with you. what did you think? >> you know, i just think that the the police department, the city, they did the right thing
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by, excuse me, by firing those officers immediately. that should be done in all cases. but know, like in my case, they put one officer on desk duty, which was still getting paid, still getting raises while he was on desk duty. so what kind of signal does that send to the others. we have to stop that. we have to nip it in the bud. if you've got to call it what it is, if they don't belong on the police police force, fire him. don't belong back on the force. but, then maybe you have a hearing about that, but fire these police officers immediately, because there are thousands of cases, cases that we never hear about, cases that never hit the airwaves.
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and just like these police officers who murdered this young man, you think this is the first case? you think that this is the first time they did this? no, there's probably plenty of other cases out there, that never hit the air waves. but we have to do something about it. not only do we have to make laws, we have to make the laws be enforced? >> yeah. >> marion? >> well, i want to recognize the memphis chief of police there for firing those five officers. and i'm happy to see that they are continuing to look at those others that sat there idly and allowed this young man to be beaten to death. i know that across this nation, that they say that there are good police, but when you set aside and you allow what happened to tyre nichols and you
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do nothing, then they are considered in my eye as also bad cops. we are tired, enough is enough, my case is 23 years old. when i listen to some of the footage and i know i should not have listened to it. i should not have watched it, and but when i watch it and listen to those officers, this is scripted information. many of the things that i heard on that video, i heard 23 years ago and it has not changed. i think we the people need to stand up. one of the things my son said in his last college essay was, it takes a village. and to see the uprising across this nation, as we've seen in the past with eric garner, as we've seen with michael brown and with many wel, many others, think we need to stand up and fight back. but the system is broken. it is working the way it is designed to. it needs to be revamped, because
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training is not enough. they are taught in that blue wall of silence to do exactly what happened. but i'm happy to see that they moved swiftly and again, as gwen has said, this needs to happen in every single case across this country. >> yeah. and so often, we hear the last cry being for their mothers, as it was, marion, for you, you know, 23 years ago. there is nothing like a mother's grief and our hearts are with you today. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, both. gwen karr, marion, gary hopkins. we really appreciate it. and i think it's important to say -- >> thank you for having us. and i just want to say, god bless that family and god bless that mother. we are with them. >> and god bless you guys as well. important names here, gary hopkins jr. and eric garner. say their names, as they say. thank you. we appreciate it. >> we'll be right back.
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this morning a pair of monkeys safely back at the dallas zoo after they were stolen monday. one of them was found in a closet 15 miles south of the dallas zoo. police haven't released details how the monkeys were taken. they shared this surveillance video from the zoo and a picture of a man they want to talk to. it wasn't the only strange disappearance at the dallas zoo recently because, as you recall, two weeks ago a leopard was missing after her enclosure was intentionally cut that same day. they found a similar cut at another monkey enclosure. none left their habitat, thankfully. despite increased security, zoo officials found a vulture that died. this is not just happening in dallas. a zoo in louisiana said 12
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