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russia is preparing for a, quote, maximum escalation of its war in the coming weeks according to ukraine. this is israel's ben tells cnn that he would mediate between the two sides. >> i know that a lot of people want to create this narrative that i faked my way to congress, which is absolutely categorically false. i worked hard. i have built ground up a career. >> except george santos did fake his way to congress and he did not build a career that he claimed. >> i would not run if president trump ran. >> well, things have changed. the first challenger out of the gate to former president trump, what is nick nikki haley's plac race? "cnn this morning" starts right now.
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we begin in memphis. the parents of tyre nichols are demanding justice as they prepare to bury their son. the funeral hours from now. you are looking at live pictures now from memphis. a church where the service will be held. the nation still reeling from the horrific video of police officers beating and kicking him and there is new developments this morning to tell you about. cnn has obtained the initial police report which was much different from what we saw on that video. cnn has also learned that the city of memphis is preparing to release more videos. civil rights leaders, the vice president mike pence set to attend the funeral. last night tyre's family spoke at the sanctuary where the dr. mart hear martin luther king gave his speech the eve of his as says nation. >> protect my wife. she is fragile right now. we need that. trust me. we got to stay strong for her.
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so justice for tyre. >> justice for tyre! >> justice for tyre! >> to begin our coverage we bring in shimon prokupecz. they are getting set hours from now. this story is still developing. >> right. there is still more administrative charges dom to the officers according to the memphis police. there is still more video. the city yesterday telling us they will be releasing more video in connection to their investigation once the administrative part of this is done. so we will see a lot more. a lot more is gonna come. the bottom line, we are learning that the initial police reports does not -- does not reflect what actually happened, which almost begs the question, were they trying to cover this up in some way and give a false account, a false narrative of what happened here, painting themselves, the police -- >> the officers? >> the officers as the victims? >> even saying that at one
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point. one officer who has been charged with second-degree murder. >> correct. this is not uncommon, sadly. when you have this kind of video we have been able to see, that paints a completely different picture. and when you look at the video and you look at what the officers were saying, laughing after they beat him up and coming up with excuses and telling supervisors he tried to grab our guns, he hit us, all kinds of excuses, we are seeing that now, that that wasn't the case. more video, more charges, possibly more firings, more officers being removed. right now the city is telling us we are in the middle of this administrative procedure. they are asking for patience. they are promising transparency. we need them to release officially release the initial police report so we can see for ourselves and the country can see exactly what the police wrote in that. they have yet to do that. hopefully -- >> could they be compelled legally to do that? >> we can sue, right?
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as the press, we can sue them and try to get it through the courts. >> that's how you got so much in eovaldi? >> correct.uvaldi? >> correct. the city is trying to be transparent. i think the one thing that i would think that i would want to see is the police chief stand up before a podium, have a press conference and just take questions from the media. don, you interviewed her, which i thought was excellent and important and we learned so much. i think she has more to do and we need to hear more. >> other members of the media want to ask questions, too. >> yes. a and we have the funeral today. i think we will hear a lot of justice for tyre. also about reform. i think that's going to be sort of the tone of this. they want more change, more change is needed. we are hearing fthat from famil
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members of other families of victims who died by police. today is going to be about justice for tyre and reform. i think we will hear a lot about police reform and the needed changes. >> with vice president harris there it raises the question his family going to the state of the union in washington next week, makes it all but impossible that president biden himself will have to talk about that reform as well. >> every administration kind of has their police reform moment. this is perhaps biden's police reform moment certainly. >> you are looking live at the church where tyre nichols services will be held. that is the same sanctuary where the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. gave his final mount mountaintop speech on the eve of his assassination. now the funeral will be held in hours and we will be covering it. shimon prokupecz will continue to report as well. thank you. >> also this morning, the clock is ticking and this afternoon president biden is going to sit down face to face with house
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speaker kevin mccarthy for the first time since mccarthy became speaker to hash out differences over the nation's debt ceiling and the threat of a devastating financial default. mccarthy is prepared to negotiate an increase to the debt ceiling but the white house has drawn a red line saying they will not negotiate. the stakes could not be higher for all americans, not just for lawmakers and president biden. failing to raise the debt ceiling, for example, would delay payments to federal workers, social security checks. it would have a major effect on the benefits that veterans receive as well. if the government defaults, it could spike borrowing costs for consumers and cause turmoil in financial markets. it would likely stifle job growth. this meeting is expected to happen this afternoon. the big question is do we actually expect any breakthroughs or substantial progress out of this meeting? what are you hearing from the
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white house? >> this is the first time they are meeting face to face in this new congress. it's hard to say whether we can call this meeting a negotiation because the white house has been very emphatic and consistent in saying all along when it comes to raising the debt ceiling there is going to be no negotiation. there aren't going to be any concessions where speaker mccarthy wants to negotiate. he has been taking input from colleagues, obviously, members of his caucus who are pressing him to get deep spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. so this is all to say the two sides go into the meeting today very far apart and i think we can expect that this afternoon is only going to be the opening salvo and needless to say the expectations are pretty low and i think a problem, if you can call it that, is that they know that the deadline is june and as you know very well in washington a couple of months is actually a really long time for all sides to drag their feet. >> yeah. a few months, but so much on the table to wait that long to come to an agreement. president biden, m.j., was in
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new york last night. he had a private reception with democratic donors. he was unsparing in his criticism of kevin mccarthy. what did he say? >> yeah, i thought this was interesting. president biden at a fundraiser in manhattan last night saying to donors that mccarthy, when he got the speakership, had to extract commitments from some of his colleagues that biden said were absolutely off the wall and then there is a moment where he turns to chuck schumer and says to the new york senator, you know, chuck, i can't imagine you making one of those commitments. so, in other words, the president sort of signaling to mccarthy, yes, i know you are speaker, but i also happen to know that you are a very compromised one at that, and, kaitlin, that happens to be true and it also happens to be an important dynamic in these talks. >> shaping up to be a tense meeting. thank you. coming up, we are going to talk to a republican congressman
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and house majority whip, tom emmer, and the democratic whip in the senate, senator dick durbin. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says there is a formula for peace but it doesn't prioritize direct negotiations with the palestinians. the united states' position remains in support of a two-state solution. take a listen to what netanyahu told jake tapper about what he thinks is key to inding the israeli/palestinian conflict. >> i think we can get hung up on this and we have in the past. people said, you know, unless you resolve this issue and unless you have peace with the palestinians, you are not going to have a broader peace with the arab world. for 25 years the palestinians who don't want peace with israel want to see a peace without israel, don't want to stand next to israel, they had an effective veto on israelis's expansion of the peace around it. i went around them. there was a formula for peace. my view, because of the fact that the persistent palestinian
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refusal, which goes back a century, to recognize a jewish state, a nation state for the jewish people in any boundary, that persistent refusal persists. if we wait for them,ner we are going to have peace. people say you have to work inside out, peace with the palestinians, peace with the arab world. i think it will be the other way around. if we make peace with saudi arabia, depends on the saudi leadership, and bring effectively the arab israeli conflict to an end, we will get a workable peace with the palestinians. i think that's possible and i think that's the way to go. >> let's bring in nic robertson. nick, that was really eye-opening to hear his position on how he thinks peace can be achieved. >> yeah, and this clear daylight, as you said, between israeli position, his position and prime minister netanyahu -- and the united states' position.
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and we heard that expressly when secretary blinken was standing side by side with prime minister netanyahu. the prime minister laid out that analysis, increase the circle of peace, we will get a workable situation with the palestinians, not a two state situation, but a workable situation, and secretary blinken said that is no substitute for direct israeli/palestinian efforts to improve their -- to improve their dialogue. and it's far from clear at the moment that saudi arabia would actually join netanyahu's circle of peace. why? because they see themselves as this hugely important, the most powerful, pivotal muslim nation in the world and they don't want to -- they don't want to give up that position to make a deal with israel if the israeli leader at the time, netanyahu right now, cannot deliver what they want. they haven't fully articulated what they want, but saudis are not close to that. there is a lot of daylight in
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this. >> jake talked about that as the grand prize, right, for netanyahu? normalizing relations with saudi? >> i want to talk now about the weekend drone attacks on this iranian military plant. the "wall street journal" and "new york times" cited sources claiming israel is responsible. cnn has not confirmed, netanyahu did not deny it when he spoke to jake. listen to this. >> did israel carry out this strike in iran over the weekend? >> i never talk about specific operations with the exception of our raid on iran's secret nuclear archive. every time an explosion takes place in the middle east, you know, israel is blamed or given responsibility. sometimes we are. sometimes we are not. but i will say that there is -- you're right. there is an overriding mission that i have. i came back and ran in these l.a.x.s and was elected the sixth time for because i have three overriding goals.
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one to thwart iran's nuclear am ambitions. the second to expand the peace dramatically to end the israeli conflict as a lead-in to ending the israeli/palestinian conflict and the third to boost israel's incredible economy. the first is first. the first is iran. i will only say this, that i will do everything in my power as israel's prime minister to prevent iran from getting a nuclear arsenal that is expressly directed at annihilating us and they also say not only death to israel, but death to america. >> how does that answer it? >> that's not going to play very well because iranians are going to take it as an implicit threat that if they try to breach anything that israel considers dangerous, that there is the potential of attack. they are aware of that. but this will heighten those fears and anxieties. this drone attack, a new type of
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attack on the iranians themselves will know how possible it is to use that technique at other locations. this is a real live threat. how they respond will be very, very interesting because they have the possibility to sescalae and not directly on israel themselves but through the region through hezbollah and lebanon, through proxies, let's say, stoking tensions out of yemen or across the border in syria in israel. they have multiple ways of stoking this fire. >> interesting how he brought up iran supplying russia with drones being used in ukraine. thank you. any minute now the florida college board set to release the out line for an ap african american studies course thrust into the national spotlight after governor ron desantis banned it from high school. he said it posed a, quote, political bias.
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he plans to ban universities from funding diversity, equity and inclusion. leyla santiago in florida for us this morning. what can you tell us about this ap african american course? >> reporter: good morning. yeah, this is a course that is under scrutiny right now. let's talk about how we got here. the college board, that is the non-profit organization that oversees advanced placement courses in the u.s. has been working on this more than a year. they have launched pilot courses in about 60 schools across the country. when the florida department of education reviewed an initial proposal for the framework of that course they took a lot of objections to it. this he rejected it. in the letter about a month ago they said to the college board, i quote, that the course was inexplicably contrary to florida law and significantly lacks educational value.
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context here. talk about that law portion. last year florida passed a law that basically said a student cannot be made to believe in the classroom that he or she bears any sort of personal responsibility or feel any sort of distress or anguish or guilt based off the actions committed by the same race in the past. so that speaks to some of the objections that the florida department of education commissioner listed off when asked about why they rejected the course. let's look at those objections. they include in the list the mention of queer theory. the movement of black lives, reparations, among others. this is based off of initial review from framework that was proposed a year ago, february 2022. it was dated. and i spoke to the co-chair of the development committee for this course and he says today and in the official course book you should expect revisions. but those revisions, he said,
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are based off of feedback from students, from teachers, from experts engaged in the pilot program. not politicians. he also emphasized that this is an ap course on african american studies. not african american history, which means it is an interdisciplinary look that is a broad view of the african american experience, including art, literature, even geography and culture. it is a course that is optional for advanced students and could potentially give them college credit in the future. so the big question is, once this is released, don, will the state of florida allow this to be taught in florida classrooms? >> leyla santiago, thank you. also this morning, texas is expanding ice storm warnings across the state as extreme winter weather is crippling roads. you are looking at live pictures of the driving conditions in dallas. a rare sight in the city.
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the national weather service is urging everyone don't drive if you don't have to. two people have died on sleet and icy covered roads. 200,000 people now don't have power. cars were backed up about ten miles down this texas highway as a jackknifed semi-truck blocked both lanes traffic. in oklahoma, icy roads caused a truck driver to lose control. he was not injured thanks to the cable barriers. also -- >> breaking news that kaitlin is going to report right now. kaitlin. you want to tell us about this? >> not reporting that i'm get -- no i am reading it on twitter. in addition to what we are talking about, you know, with the weather, you know, we were talking about sports and what we are getting to. tom brady has announced he is actually finally fully retiring. he posted a video on twitter a few moments ago confirming saying, quote, i am retiring for good. >> do we have video of that, guys, in the control room?
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let's listen. >> good morning, guys. i'll get to the point right away. i'm retiring. for good. i know the process was a pretty big deal last time. when i woke up this morning i figured i just press record and let you know first. so i won't be long-winded. you only get one super emotional retirement essay and i used mine up last year. i thank you guys so much to every single one of you for supporting me. my family, my friends, my teammates, my competitors. i could go on forever. there is too many. thank you, guys, for allowing me to live my absolute dream. i wouldn't change a thing. i love you all. >> yeah, he said he had one. this is two, right? remember last time he said he was going to retire and he came
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back? yeah. >> that was really touching to hear him say that. 20 seasons with the patriots. also how he is doing it this time because last times -- >> he is getting in front of it. >> he said he wanted to be one of the first to tell people. i know john berman is going to be heartbroken. it's amazing. we were talking about what an amazing athlete lebron is as he was coming up on the scoring achievement last night when we were at the game. tom brady has so many records of his own. such a force. >> consternation within his family, he admitted his wife, right, wanting him to retire and that did not happen. and then quite honestly didn't have the season -- really good season, but not the season he thought he was going to have. but at a certain point one realizes what's important and even, you know, the great tom brady realizes that he has gotten to a point physically and
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emotionally and with his life that it's time to move on. >> it will be interesting to hear from him what led to this decision right? in 2000 he was drafted. 199. and look how he went to prove to everyone he was the best. >> yeah. >> our tom brady on the phone. john berman, what say but this breaking news, sir? >> i think poppy harlow is so sport. when she referred to him as the best, dead on right. >> all for you, berman. >> i am so impressed. you have been listening all these years. i am a little surprised only in that, you know, he didn't have a great season, or his team didn't have a great season and he clearly had something left. i thought he might play just to prove something. i guess, what else do you have to prove when you are tom brady, when you have won seven super bowls already? i guess he just wants to move on.
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he has some mumultiple broadcas deal. he will do just fine. you know, i wonder, i wonder if he regrets this last season. he had not a great season on the field. not a great -- you know, we are never going to know what happened in his marriage, whether or not it was going back that broke it up or maybe he went back because it wasn't great, he wanted to get away from it all, which would be understanding too. >> as we are -- i have been -- i watched him closely, right, even like relief quarterbacks come in and they have a better game or beat him and i watch him on the sidelines and it wasn't like the same tom brady, the confidence that you see. i mean, quite honestly, looking defeated. did you notice that? i wonder if he was regretting the last season. >> i think he was frustrated. i disagree in that there weren't
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that many quarterbacks who played better than he played. he still played really well. ep was still a tomorrow, you know, five to ten quarterback in the league. it's just he didn't have the guys around him, it wasn't all going great and for a guy who over the course of his career has only won basically everything, it's really frustrating. so you listen to tom brady, it's one of these dilemmas or conundrums about competition. you always got the sense he got more pain out of losing than he got joy out of winning, and that's a problem i think for a lot of athletes. if he could step back and take stock of what he accomplished, i think he would be pleased. >> february 1, 2022, at 8:20 in the morning, lots of folks will remember where they were when tom brady officially retired again. andy scholes, i'm sure. >> oh, yeah.
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>> can you hear me? >> yes, you are on the air, sir. >> i saw tom brady popping up on my computer. is this it? it was. this is the end of the roller coaster it looks like. last season we went through, he retired, he thought about it, he came back, and you guys just kind of discussed it. it was not the season i imagined he was coming back for. the bucs struggled, you know, much of the way through. didn't have a winning record. you kind of hit it there, don. brady didn't really look like himself. he looked like he didn't want to get hit anymore. we weren't used to seeing him losing so many games. he lost more games this year than he lost in -- since i think it was high school or something like that. so, you know, it's definitely a day, a sad day for football fans, guys, because tom brady gave us so many incredible moments over the years. all of the super bowl appearances, all of the comebacks, you know. i like to say there is never
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going to be an athlete like tom brady because he started off as the biggest underdog there is, a sixth-round pick, picked 199, a guy expected to do nothing and he turned into the greatest champion in nfl history and one of the greatest champions we have ever witnessed in sports winning seven super bowls, something that is likely never going to be done again. so certainly a sad day for us sports fans. >> i mean, he has every major record. he holds all of them. i mean, it's just, like, incredible. when people talk about him retiring, it's hard for these athletes to walk away from the game. i mean, this is all they have ever known. he talked about the impact of that, people close to him talked about that. we are thinking about, like, looking back at his career, what's going to stand out the most? any games? any plays, andy, that you will never forget? >> i got to be there for three of his super bowl wins and i tell you what. i'll never forget when he was down 28-3 to the falcons in houston in that super bowl and,
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you know, things started to happen. they started to make a little bit of comeback. in your head you are like, it's tom brady. he is gonna actually doi this. that's a game i will definitely never forget. but it's all the moments, right? i mean, so think about it. tom brady has been in the nfl for 23 years. i mean, there is a lot of nfl fans that don't even know an nfl without tom brady. think about that. so it's going to be -- you know, moving forward, you know, it's going to be, like, what do we do without him because he gave us so many moments over the years. you know, whenever he was on, you know, in a game and he was down, guys, you never wanted to turn it off because you knew he could bring the team back. we even saw it this year in a couple of games. even that saints game, i think it was monday night football, they had no business winning. they were down two scores with like a minute and a half left. but brady brought them back and won it. that's something we are always going to miss. it's the charisma and magic that he brought to the game of
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football. >> you would have to bring up the saints game, my mom was watching, visiting from louisiana. carolyn manno, remember, we were on a couple of months ago talking about this. she said these high-performing athletes, it's really hard, andy, to leave the game, stop doing what they are doing, all the attention. this is something that motivates you. you get out of bed, right? this motivates people like that to get out of bed. quick answer before the producers beat me up. >> and that was something brady prided himself in. the tb12 method. he could defeat father time. he is 45 years old, still playing at a high level in the nfl. so i'm sure it was tough. he has a nice gig waiting for him at fox sports. >> all right. thanks to the great john berman, great andy scholes talking about the great tom brady with my great co-anchors poppy and kaitlin. all right. we are going to have more straight ahead on this. plus, everyone is watching
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of being irresponsible to saying he is refusing to negotiate. republican congressman whim tom emmer of minnesota is joining us now. the question is, what is kevin mccarthy expecting to happen during this meeting with with president biden today? >> it's great to be with you, kaitlin. first off, you correctly set where the parties were probably a week ago. the president saying there would be no negotiations and mccarthy saying, look, we got to be able to talk about reasonable stuff. sensible stuff. responsible stuff when it comes to what we are going to do with the debt ceiling. today is a great sign. i think today shows you when the president is inviting kevin mccarthy down that the negotiations are beginning and that's a good thing. >> they are not going to reach any agreement today, you think? >> this is going to be a process. i am sorry. no. i doubt there will be any agreement. this is a great to know you meeting where they sit down and talk about mutual goals, concerns. i think kevin mccarthy will reassure the president there
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will be no default. he will reassure the president that social security and medicare are off the table. that's not going to be discussed. but certainly as i expect he will tell the president, as he told others over the last few weeks, you can't tell the american people there is no waste in our spending, government spending, that we shouldn't be looking at. i think it will be a good first meeting where the two leaders will sit down and have a good conversation, which, hopefully, as we proceed, will lead to some type of resolution that's in the best interest of the american people. >> if social security and medicare are off the table as you just said, wro do republicans want to cut spending? >> that's going to be part of the dance. you talk about cut spending. how about spending reforms? i think people are going to have to look at how this budget is built over the next ten-year period and talk about where those efficiencies are, where the waste is. the things that can be done from
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an legislative standpoint and with the white house to make sure that the bunk that we are doing going forward is responsible, it's reasonable, and it's sensible for the american people so that we are not mortgaging our children and grandchildren's future. >> congressman, you said republicans will not impact defense spending. you said we aren't cutting defense. we assured appropriators, that's not what we are doing. are you saying there will be no cuts to defense spending? >> think this has been a discussion amongst all of our members. the white house tried to come out and say that's what was going to happen. again, everybody is going to be looking at efficiencies. everybody is going to look at bringing these different budgets into the 21st century, kaitlin. everything is on the table in terms of scrutinizing what we are spending on, why we are spending it, can we spend more efficiently. i think that's the discussion that's going to start today and it's going to take time with
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both sides having negotiations to make sure this isn't a republican or democrat issue. it's good for the country and future generations of americans. >> it sounds like defense spending is on the table then. even if there is an agreement that is reached down the road between kevin mccarthy and president biden, you are the whip. are you confident you can get the divided group of republicans to vote for that deal? >> first off, i want to make it very clear. from the republican side, we are going to make sure our men and women in uniform have the equipment, the tools that are necessary for them to accomplish their mission here at home and around the globe. that is the primary goal of what republicans will do with our counterparts in the white house and on the other side of the aisle. as far as republicans in the house, we have 222 members, kaitlin. the great thing about that is every voice matters. and, yes, i am very confident that as a team we will work together to make sure that not only are our members representing the people who elected them, because that's first, that's the primary thing that they have to do, but
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second, that they are able to advance the agenda that the american people voted for when they elected a new republican majority in the u.s. house of representatives last november. >> yesterday we saw congressman george santos step down from his committees. he said it's temporary. i wonder given you are the nrcc chair and what we found out about what he said wasn't true and what is a lie, do you regret backing him? >> nobody knew any of this. i find it very interesting that our counterparts at the d triple c didn't do opposition research. this wasn't his first election. it was his second. i find if interesting that our friends at "the new york times" didn't do the work they do when they scrutinize candidates like this. at the end of the day, george santos, i expect him to do what's right for the people who elected him and that will play itself out as we go forward. >> do you regret backing him? you specifically? >> personally, when it comes to candidates, there is a host of
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candidates. george santos was elected by the people of that district to represent their interests. now he is going to have to answer to those people. >> yeah. he was elected -- >> not me. >> on a resumé of lies. also today there is a question about whether or not republicans are going to vote to remove i will han, getting her on the house foreign affairs committee. do the republicans have the votes to do that? >> i believe that is going to happen. miss omar has proven she should not be on the committee. the important thing to note, kaitlin, there is a process in place where miss omar will be able to present her case to the rules committee first in a very public forum. keep in mind her own members of her own party have criticized her antisemitic remarks and said she is not worthy of serving on it this committee because of past statements and because of her bias. it's like a judge, for instance, when a judge gets a case, if he or she has a preconceived bias or interest, it is the rule that
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they need to recuse themselves. she is not willing to do that. so the process will be she will present in front of the rules committee. if they agree with her, it's over. if they don't agree with her, it will come to the house floor. they will be able to debate to the entire assembly of members her case and then there will be a vote and if she loses that vote she will be prevented from being seated on the foreign affairs committee. she will be able to be on any other committee in congress, but she won't be on that one. so everybody's clear, if that happens, she still has an appeals process after that where she can appeal the decision to the house ethics committee. >> she has clarified her comments s she apologized for those. when this was a topic of conversation she invoked your name on twitter the other day saying jewish donors essentially bought control of congress, you never apologized. a letter you september as the chair of the nrcc when you
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referenced george sewis, bloomberg, you said they bought control of congress. i don't have to tell you that gorge soros is jewish. michael bloomberg is jewish. tom steyer's father is jewish. what is injury response? >> i will put my reputation and credibility up against miss omar's every day of the week. you said she apologized. she said publicly she doesn't apologize for making her antisemitic remarks. this is exactly what they do when they do not have the facts or the law on their side. all they do is try to distract with things that are completely unrelated and not accurate. so that would be my response. >> given that you named those three individuals, do you feel like that's a sign that every lawmaker should be careful about their language and their insinuations? >> again, the issue today before the house is about a member who since she has been in congress
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has attacked american allies, has attacked america. she made statements that the united states has committed terrorist acts. that's what the issue is before the house today -- >> i understand, congressman. >> she has to explain to her colleagues why it is she would make those comments and how she is then qualified to make decisions when it comes to foreign affairs and our relationships with countries around the globe. that will be the issue. >> i understand that, congressman. those are questions we asked of her previously, the reporters on capitol hill, anchors here in washington. i am asking about your comments specifically. >> yeah. i always watch what i'm saying. i always respect everybody around me. but there is nothing wrong with miss omar's free speech again. we don't have to like what she is saying. she can say whatever she wants. the key here is that when it comes to sitting on this committee, kaitlin, those remarks and they are behavior in the past, her actions, quite frankly, disqualify her from
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serving on that committee which is completely different than what you are asking. >> congressman tomerer, you say republicans have the votes to make sure she is not on the committee. thank you for that vote today. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, kaitlin. more on the breaking news this morning. tom brady is retiring. this time he says it's for good. ♪ and ozzy osbourne making a major announce bmt his future. we will tell you what it is. that you wanant to keep in the family... ...or passing down ththe family business... ...or giving back to the places that inspire yoyou. no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank, we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why? ♪ woo! hey you. i am loving this silversneakers® boxing class. thank you aetna.
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well, i could switch us to xfinity. those smiles. that's why i do what i do. that and the paycheck. . breaking news, tom brady retiring for good. sports editor at the nation joins us now. good morning, sir. huge, right? >> beyond huge. we're talking about the greatest of all time in the most popular sport in all the land, right before the super bowl. on the one-year anniversary of his last retirement. so this could not be bigger news in the sports world. i cannot think of anybody else really other than maybe lebron james on the present sports landscape if they said they retired, the entire sports world would stop on a dime because
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that's what's happened this morning. >> yeah. and to have cnn covering it, right, as breaking news. just real quickly. is this a surprise to you? is this a surprise at this moment? >> honestly it does because it looked like there were places being set up for tom to play this fall. a lot of rumors going around looking at schools versus kids in miami. the dolphins looked like a destination. any team would have rolled out the red carpet for the guy. i got to say, we have lost the last athlete of my generation, too. i think so people are a little bit sad that somebody 45 years old, the greatest career in the history of north american sports is saying good-bye. >> we will see if this one sticks, dave. appreciate it. be well. >> thank you. president biden and the white house set to speak with house speaker kevin mccarthy just a few hours from now. the most pressing issue of course is going to be if they are going to raise the debt ceiling. the white house is sticking to
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its message that they have been sending all month. >> it is the duty, the basic duty of congress to get that done. and so we're not going to -- we are just not going to negotiate about that. the president is not going to negotiate over congress' constitutional responsibility. >> joining us democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. good morning, sir. >> good morning. >> so on top of that, you yesterday speaker mccarthy said he thinks biden will, quote, sit down and negotiate, closed quote, today. do you think president biden should negotiate on the debt ceiling? >> absolutely not. the debt ceiling is a critical vote for our economy, for jobs, for the fate of businesses, and the reputation of the united states to pay its bills. that should not being negotiated. now, if speaker mccarthy wants to negotiate on the budget, that's another item. that's another issue. it will come up a little later. i would suggest to him some of
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the things that are coming forward from mega republicans, attacks on social security and medicare, which senator scott of florida has suggested as well as the notion of a 30% national sales tax, which is floating in the house of representatives, non-starters. >> mccarthy said on cbs on sunday that social security and medicare are off the table. but let me ask you this. you remember well it was then-vice president biden in 2011 in the white house leading the negotiations with then-speaker boehner. this is a very different time and a different congress with different rules, now with mccarthy in. do you think it is more likely we will see a default than it was when we came to the brink in 2011? >> god forbid speaker mccarthy would want that on his record. for the first time in the history of the united states we are going to default on our debt? this default would be disastrous
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in terms of new home purchases and the value of homes, businesses and jobs. we are going to find ourselves in a spin into a recession if mccarthy follows through. >> it sounds to me like, tell me if i'm wrong, you are more worried about a default than you were then. are you? >> 15 roll calls later i wonder if the house of representatives is in a position to do the responsible thing. three times during the trump presidency we had bipartisan votes to extend the debt ceiling. there was no game playing here. at a time when president trump was increasing the national debt accumulated over 230 years by 25%. so the debt was going up. we were asked to extend the debt ceiling. we did the responsible thing. we should do it again. >> i understand the debt went up $8 trillion under trump. a lot of that was because of covid stimulus and people misunderstand what you point out, a budget is about future spending and the debt ceiling is
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about promises already made. but on future spending, i think you would agree there is some waste in government. what cuts do you think democrats should consider? >> listen, we should always consider eliminating, waste, fraud and abuse. under the biden administration we have been reduce the national debt when we passed the inflation reduction act, which gave the $35 a month insulin, for example, addressed a lot of issues, the cost of health care for seniors. we reduced the deficit with that as well. so we have been doing responsible things. the conversation should continue. but don't hold the economy and reputation of the united states hostage by saying that the debt ceiling is involved in this. >> a lot of that direct impact we've seen in terms of decrease in spending has been because some of that stimulus for covid has ended, but you didn't name any specific thing that you think democrats should consider cutting. >> listen, i've been -- >> can you give me specifics?
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>> let me just add, you failed to mention, not holding it against you, under the trump administration was the $2 million tax break. >> of course, 2017 tax cuts. >> please include that in the trump record as well. in terms of going forward that's another point i want to make. when we are talking about revenue that we can bring in to reduce the deficit by asking the healthiest among us and corporations that are escaping tax responsibility to do their fair share, that has to be part of the conversation as well. this notion that we are going to have no alternative but to cut basic programs for veterans and people in low-income situations that to me is a false choice. >> before we move on to police reform, which i know is a personal priority for you, you introduced last year the debt ceiling reform act and that would essentially take this responsibility from congress to the treasury secretary so essentially to one unelected individual. why should that be taken out of the hands of congress, noting that congress has taken us to
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the brink before and it can be disastrous for the economy. isn't that why you guys are elected to do this hard stuff? >> well, of course that's true, but the fact is there's been political gamesmanship when it comes to our debt ceiling over the last 20 or so years and we have to bring this to an end. we shouldn't put the economy of the united states in peril because we're in the midst of preparing for a presidential campaign. my belief and others share it is that saying to congress you can disagree with the president on extending the debt ceiling but you have to do it with an extraordinary vote, i think that let's us come out on the record on this issue without jeopardizing the economy. >> senator, let's move to police reform because you have said recently that your colleague, senator lindsey graham, senators cory booker, tim scott, are ready to work on this again after the death of tyre nichols. this has been a personal priority for you. but listen to what house
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judiciary chairman jim jordan said just a few days ago on this. >> well, i don't know that there's any law that can stop that evil that we saw that is just -- i mean, just difficult to watch. that strikes me as just the lack of respect for human life. so i don't know that any law, any training, any reform is going to change -- you know, this man was handcuffed, they continued to beat him. >> given that you're going to need house republicans to get something done on a national effort, is it a futile effort? >> listen, i agree with chairman jordan in terms of what happened, sadly, to tyre nichols. it was indefensible. reprehensible. there is just no excuse for t and i also agree with the premise that we cannot mandate virtue by law. that just isn't going to happen. but still we should take an honest look at the policing in america today and acknowledge the obvious. we all want someone to answer that 911 call who is a trained
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professional and will keep us safe. secondly, we know by video camera evidence that things are happening in policing which are just absolutely indefensible in america. and, third, there are things we can do to step forward for screening future police, monitoring those who are in service in law enforcement and making certain that we have standards of conduct that are acknowledged to be sensible. the things we've seen, the evidence we've seen, the videotape is just a reminder that we cannot stand by and let this go without having a purpose and a course of action ourselves. >> so the effort will continue. senator dick durbin, thank you for all the time this morning. >> thank you. the rock & roll hall of fame one step closer to revealing its new 2023 class. we are going to tell you who some of the nominees are. that's next. a thing of the past... because only tempur-pedic uses our one-of-a-kind, incredibly adaptive tempur® material... to relieve pressure points and supporort your body,
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all right. this just in, the rock & roll hall of fame revealing its nominees for its 2023 class. ♪ i'm never gonna dance again ♪ ♪ get your freak on ♪ get your freak on ♪ ♪ running up that road, running up that hill ♪ ♪ i'm gonna soak up the sun ♪ >> george michael, missy elliott, sheryl crow, kate bush. cyndi lauper, my favorite, willie nelson and the white stripes. that's a pretty good class. >> that's the music i know. >> you were literally singing every single one. >> that sheryl crow song i made
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my parents play every day. this morning authorities inspecting a massive hump backed whale after it was found dead on the beach in new york's nassau county. it marks the tenth time a whale has washed ashore in new york and new jersey since december. now scientists are working to learn what is causing this. cnn's jason carroll live for us with more. jason, good morning. what do we know about this? what's going on here? >> reporter: i mean, you know, don, it's always sad when something like this happens. as for what happened out here yesterday the whale that you were talk being was buried right back here over that mound. he was so massive it took much of the day to get him buried. scientists have a pretty good idea of what killed him. as for those other whales, that is still under investigation. all long island beachgoers could do was stand and helplessly watch as heavy equipment moved a hump backed whale that had perished and washed ashore. it was found monday morning and
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was nicknamed luna. >> i just hope they're treating that carcass with some dignity. it was a living thing and it's just very somber. >> i hope they can find out what happened, too. i know there's been a lot of whales lately. >> reporter: late tuesday a team of about 20 biologists conducted a necropsy on the humpback. they determined it was more than 40 feet long, weighed some 29,000 pounds. it was a male that was about 40 years old. experts say they normally live twice that long. >> it was amazing to see this creature of this mag stewed on this beach and then after a couple seconds you say, and now it's perished. >> reporter: don clavin is the hempstead town supervisor. >> so what's going to be up here? >> that's when the burial will be. they've already moved the first piece up there, the second piece is probably after the autopsy is done and lastly probably the fin. >> reporter: it's not the first or second case of a beached
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whale along new york/new jersey's coast as of late, according to the national oceanic atmospheric administration some ten whales have beached themselves since last december. in this case noh released a statement saying preliminary findings indicate that a vessel strike is the likely cause of death, however, we will know more once the results of the samples become available. in the past noaa was concluded that vessel strikes and climate change represent some of the leading threats to humpback whales, though some lawmakers and environmental groups question if off-shore wind farm development could also be playing a role. >> i really do believe you don't destroy the environment to save the environment. facts matter. if we don't have the facts let's try to get them. >> reporter: but noaa disputes a connection saying there have been elevated humpback deaths along the atlantic coast since 2016, before offshore and wind farm development took place. >> noaa is a science-based
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agency so we go by the facts and evidence and right now there is no evidence to suggest that there is offshore wind activity that is linked to any of these whale deaths. >> reporter: as for luna, he was buried not far from where he washed ashore. and, don, one thing that both scientists and environmentalists can agree on, they want to get to the bottom of what's been killing all the hamp back whales out here. >> excellent report, jason carroll, thank you very much for that. beautiful, beautiful animals and someone -- they need to get to the bottom of it. >> why it's happening. all right. thank you, everyone, for joining us, we appreciate it. we will see you tomorrow. the breaking news, remember, tom brady retiring for good. we will see if it sticks. i'm sure they will have more coming up right now on the "cnn newsroom."

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