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about racism in this country and race relations more broadly. after the fatal police beating of tyre nichols, the 29-year-old unarmed black man. there's been conversations about race, about policing, and about power and it's abuse for years. complicate of course by the fact that the five officers charged in his death are also black. that is what many feel so passionate about how we teach about the legacy of race and racism in this country. it is why it is become, frankly, so controversial. especially in places like florida where the republican governor ron desantis has been slamming a new ap african american studies course. tonight, the college board is out with changes to that curriculum, raising questions about why they choose and why they chose to remove certain topics. leyla santiago has the very latest. >> look at this traffic.

for 42 years, he was killed right here. from that moment, it was never the same. >> the man was arthur mcduffie, a black father beaten to death by white police officers in miami in 1979. the officers were acquitted, he followed. >> it happened right here. >> right. here >> it is places like this that are central to historian marvin dunn's teach the truth towards, and effort to shed light on the history he says many students don't learn about in the classroom. >> there is now an effort in florida to cherry-pick history. when you start cherry-picking history, you have to make sure that you have to do that. >> the latest controversy, and advanced placement african american study course. the college board, the nonprofit that oversees the ap program has now revised its official course work. voters department of education had rejected the initial proposal to the pilot corps saying it was quote, inexplicably contrary to florida law and significantly lacks educational value.

ford's republican governor ron desantis up to this point has been very critical of the pilot program. >> we have history, a lot of different shapes and sizes, people that have participated to make the country great. people that have stood up when it wasn't easy. they all deserve to be taught. abolishing prisons, being tossed to high school kids as that is the fact. that does not -- >> last year, for the past legislation known as the stock woke championed by desantis. in part, it barred instruction that suggests anyone is privileged or oppressed based on that race or skin color. the states objections to the ap course stemmed from propose course work return or you are go for the pilot program. the department of education provided cnn with a copy of the curriculum they reviewed and the list of the states objections, all related to unit for, peddled movements and debates. concerns included black queer studies, movements for black lives. black feminist luxury thought among others. citing concerns about the works

of specific authors and scholars. >> this course on black history, what is one of the lessons about? queer theory. now, who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory. that is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. >> one of the -- unit for does not include any of the authors or scholars that the state listed as a concern. queer theory and black lives matter still mission in the course. only as ideas for potential student project topics. we ask the co-chair of the developing committee for the course if any changes were made because of the objections of the state of florida. >> no. if that were the case, if the state of florida or any state itself could single-handedly alter the curriculum of african american studies, if the afghan american states course or any ap course for that matter, it would actually undermine the integrity of the process that

we have in place. >> i learned a lot. >> c.j. footmen, t.j. brown, and their moms who live in miami say they have been waiting for a course like this. they all attended a teach the truth and say that they would know as much about their own history if it wasn't for the courses top biden. >> we learn about the same people every year. george washington university, martin luther king junior, rosa parks. i feel like it is just the same stuff being taught. it is kind of like okay, they know this, but that's it. i feel like if we don't learn this, history might repeat itself. it is gonna keep going on. we have to learn it in order to solve it. >> some parents welcome the scrutiny, she told us that she wouldn't mind of her own daughter took the course, but some things she said our best taught at home. >> some things, like the queer studies, that may or may not offend some of the children or make them feel a bit uncomfortable. >> as for professor done, he is now part of a lawsuit against the state stop woke law.

being uncomfortable, he says, is a part of learning and understanding the history that is often overlooked. >> what happened here. but listen, every community in this area has spots like this. people are killed, they are forgotten about. >> this morning, what rhonda scientists, when he was asked about the release of the new course work, he said he hadn't read through it yet. his office tells me that the florida department of education is reviewing the course work to see if it complies with florida law. but you know, therein lies the big question. will florida accept this as is with these revisions and allow it to be taught in florida classrooms? laura? >> leyla, thank you so much. i do want to turn out to robert patterson who just heard from in leyla's piece. he is a professor of african american studies at georgetown university and served as co-chair of the committee of

professors and teachers who develop the ap african american studies course. thank you for being here today. professor, i'm really intrigued because i want to take a step back for a moment. it sounds like a lot of the talking points that we have heard from governor desantis up to this point have been based on proposed aspects, not a final curriculum. is that true? >> good evening, that is an important point to make. in fact, the document that the state of florida was not officially given to them, from my understanding, by the college board. it was a very early document that was a collection. you could think of it as a wish list of what over 100 college professors based on the syllabus that they used in the introductory courses would say, oh, i teach this, i teach this, these are major topics that need to be covered. that document itself was never intended to be the course framework for the course. it is interesting that they are

actually using that. >> it is indeed. of course, people run with it and think, this is the full breath and scope. that is probably politically advantageous if not accurate of course. i want to talk to you, you have developed this new official ap african american curriculum. tell me how you decided what you include. >> absolutely, part of this was based on that original doctrine that they're using. we brought a bunch of professors and high school teachers together, they want to that document and said, these are topics that you must keep. you could keep, or should not keep. based on that feedback, the development committee then began to pair down the course and to a workable course that can be implemented to high school students at a pace that was appropriate at a conceptual level. this summer, we spent a week with high school teachers at the ap summer institute. we got feedback from them, and with regards to the issues about some of the readings that were being included, maybe some

of the topics, again, that was based on their expertise as a pea teachers or as african american studies teachers who were not in and ap course but we're turning their courses into that. from there, we continue to seek feedback and begin to finalize the course. some of these changes, for your viewers to understand, some of these changes were already in place before the state of florida released their response to a framework they should not have even responded to. in november for example, we decided that, on over eight, we made a decision that we would begin using just primary sources. some of the secondary readings will actually not be in their. secondly, and more importantly, the project that the students have to do that is part of research, that is part of the exam score, that used to be a week in the pilot. that was going to be three weeks in pilot to. that right there requires the removal of some actual instructional days. some of these topics, let's be

very clear about this, that are in that initial document from february of 2022, they are currently not in the pilot that the teachers are teaching at the 60 plus schools across the united states. >> this is important to get this clarity because i think there is the perception, this is the power of the narrative that has been emerging through this. it is important to really not only demystify the process, but to clarify and fact-checked what has been said. the governor, he spoke about the idea of not understanding we need to have a separate course material or horse work on african history because this can all be incorporated and is part of the umbrella term of american history. you and your expertise as the professor of african american studies and all the work you've done, you recognize that there is value in having a nuanced curriculum with respect to it. tell us why? >> i couple reasons, first of all we all know that for the

students who were in the interviews that your colleague conducted, american history does not include african american history writ largely. that is number one. number two, this is a course in afghanistan studies so it is not just a history course, but it is bringing together little, visual analysis, data analysis, primary sources, and other issues that relate to understanding black life, black history, black thought. but as importantly, we know that white supremacy is a central part of the american education. part of what discourse is doing is challenging lights fantasy, challenging anti black racism, and quite frankly, that seems to be what part of the issue is, the state of florida has taken the course. it challenges some of the very premises that seem to have political currency and we might need to think more about that. >> i don't know how you educate without challenging one's mind.

misconceptions and preconceived notions, thank you so much, i really appreciate it. -- uncritical analysts, laura, all here with me as. well, and beginning with you laura, on this point, you had a chance to speak with the college board in some respect about what the process looks like from. here tell us about. it >> yes, well, news our spoke to the ceo of -- david coleman. and he told us, essentially, what professor patterson said which was this final curriculum was developed as early as december. , so even before these steps were taken by florida governor ron desantis, he also said, ultimately florida decides not to accept this final document that they are not going to revise it further. that this would be something that they would have to talk to

the entire college board about. and, at this point, that they won't necessarily change it at all from this point. >> so, whatever happens down in florida, they would have the final say? >> no, he's saying that florida decides to reject, what, right now the document is. they are going to appease for it by changing it further. and, so, they're hoping that florida, ultimately, doesn't do that. they're not saying that they would take ap classes out of florida because another issue that was potentially raised about whether or not all ap classes would withdraw from florida, but it's not something that we're considering at this time. so, one thing that i think it's also important tonight is that in terms of the sort scene in the documents they said that certain readings are secondary sources would potentially be distributed to the students. what the ceo of the college board said was that in all of these ap courses, when they are finalized, they do not mandate secondary sourcing. they do not mandate that a

student testa read a specific work book or a specific document that was written by secondary sources at all, whether it's a latin american history, whether it's asian american history, mexican american history, that is not in those courses. so, he was essentially saying that that was not going to be something that was finalized in the ap courts. >> well, on the idea of why, the idea of, look if you're working off of the talking points and it was never intended to be more than intellectual brainstorm and a discussion of what to do next, why do you think that there has been this focus? on the range of issues that each individual states are facing, including florida, why do you think that this continues to be top of mine and so close to the political surface? >> well, i think that there are lots of reasons for this. , and some of it has to do with the way parents have gotten

mobilized on the issue of education over the last few years. particularly with the experience of covid. and, some of it is just a rising concern, in particular conservatives with the idea that there's too much of a political slant and too many of our public schools. and you look at the original unit for framework that they were talking about, movements and debates and there wasn't a ton of debate. there was the case of reparation, which was absolutely something that deserves study. but no case against reparations, made at the same time. and, in my own view, it is too bad that we got rid of the case for reparations as something the people are going to study. we should've just added to it. and, to have more the debate on all sides. >> i always assume, when i see a syllabus for the curriculum and we're talking about one issue, my assumption would be that any good curriculum would include the other side. it would include the discussions about the counter

point to strengthen once belief in one or the other. and, so, i wonder from your perspective, just knowing how prevalent this is, ashley, is it going to be something that would continue into 2024? it's not just florida that's having these discussion. we see school board meetings all over the country that are impacted by our choice, insight and what happens next. >> i do think it will go into 2024, i just have to say, i think that on the first day of black history month i find myself exhausted as a black american in this country where we had to watch the funeral of tyre nichols who was murdered at the hands of police, black police officers but police. where we had to face this decision, and the reason why these courses and the death of these courses are so important is we don't actually need the counter argument to the case as to why reparations are happening. it's her life. they never happen. they are the law today is the argument. what this course is to present

is an alternative option to have an america that i actually live up to its ideals. we find ourselves shooting after shooting, beating after beating, death after death of black bodies and having the same argument. because, what is taught in our educational system does not provide people the context to understand that police are the derivative of sleep patrols. a course like a pea african american studies, actually every course in history should talk about that. but it is absent in our academic system. and, so the hope is, it is offensive on a day like this and i understand the process, i appreciate the explanation, but this is bigger than just this process on this course. this is a political stunt by ron desantis, is playing to his base, but it is dangerous because it is children. the students will lead us and the child said in that exert that if we don't learn our

history, you are definite to repeat. so, bearing another black at another police feel like i will live this history throughout my entire life, and if we don't start teaching and appropriate history we will continue to do it. and our lawmakers will fail to change policy. so, this is more than just one ap course, this is actually about changing the arc of our country which many conservatives don't want to do. >> yes, well a lot believe that the purpose of education and the public education system is to move u.s. policy to the left to present contested views such as that policing is based on sleep patrols as though it is the uncontested truth and the historical consensus. absolutely. a governor's -- who's a republican governor of a republican state is going to take issue with that. it's not gonna want taxpayer dollars spent prop-ing in a left wing point of view. however passionately felt. >> it's not propaganda. it's true. but the point is that it's not

propaganda that we bury tyre nichols and that he was killed at the hands of police. that's true. that's a reality we all watched today. it's not propaganda -- >> yes, but it's not anything anybody is discussing. >> but the reasons why those deaths are allowed to happen is because we don't take the time to really understand the systematic racism that is plaguing our country that allows for a president like donald trump to say racist things and still be elected. to give this idea a fear that if we teach a comprehensive history, something would be taken away from me. i would argue that it's better. and i'm just saying that -- >> well, the killing is because of systematic racism. it's a point of view. it's a point of view that you can argue. there are other points of views. the public education system should not be putting its weight behind one contested -- contestable point of view. >> well i think that it's the college ceo, david coleman,

would say that that's not actually what they're doing. what they're doing is the reparation movement is something that would still be taught in the class. it's something that actually, the students themselves can write their final research project on if they want to. and that there are no limitations on what sourcing that they want to use for that research project. and that teachers in the course work welcome to use whatever primary sourcing and secondary sourcing they want to use. so they're not mandating what exactly they can do when they're crafting that entire research project on whatever subjected is. and he said they were very concerned about the chilling effect that loss like those in florida would have in classrooms. and that teachers have already voiced there concern about the fact that they may not be able to teach, you know, the influence of black faith leaders and their place in history. what they did in history to their students and the fact that they may not be able to do research projects on that. >> well, this conversation reminds me of supreme court

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joining me now seattle police chief adrian diaz whose department started using this technology as well as senior law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. thank you both of you for being here, i wanted to begin with you chief miller because this is some pretty still new technology. but there is reporting that your department is already thinking about re-updating to a two-year contract. have you seen evidence of behavior that this is actually working? >> yes, we're just looking at how we operationalize, it's part of our equity accountability and -- specifically to the software that we are using as part of the quality. as you mentioned, it's really about understanding that we are de-escalating a situation just based on the language, based on their actual tone. as i have, in many friendships, you could say high in many different ways and people can understand that based on how you say hi, it can actually, just the tone of a connection

come across condescending or could actually come across a lot more aggressive. even though many officers might say, well, i just said hello. and, i didn't think that i was asked right in the situation. so, using that technology to be able to do that really helps us to be able to train officers in the right manner to actually make sure we are providing quality service. >> well, i know quite well. my tone is everything chief. and, what you think about, things and how people use it on the very point -- it's called chulio by the way and they told, us in a statement that they believe that technology like this could have identified the deficiencies that led to the death of tyre nichols. i wonder, in particular, do you think that would be possible given what you know about the technology and the use of a i. all to alert and flag. >> well, we're about using it in the manner that we're trying

to take an aggregate data and really trying to understand, how do we train officers to provide professionalism and equity and how they are policing. so, based on the language and how they actually de-escalate situations, i think that's overall, you're trying to change that culture of what you're providing for the level of service. so, i think that's our focus. we're really changing that culture. we're really infusing that level of de-escalation. it's going to improve policing. it's going to improve the quality of service that you do. >> john, i want to bring you in here because there's always a question of how can be, used it's an idea that you're using it as a training, meaning everything in retrospect and what it's already happening in realtime. but we have seen officers, for example, saying things like stop resisting. talking about their version of events, the narratives that they've crafted. if this is just a language

system, is it possible to then maybe gain the system? >> i think what you're seeing that the struggle with the police department will get more out of their body cameras. right now, if there is a critical incident that could go back to the body incident, they curry one history, they could look at it in almost realtime. but, what are you getting out of the 35,000 body cameras from the new york city police officers and the 9000 in l.a.? or the 2000 and memphis when there isn't a critical incident. what are you learning about performance so you could look at them randomly, but fools will flag one of interest for you that would push those to the top and allow you to come in good behavior, looking at critical behavior. there's another system called atlas brought forward by jonathan parma, a new jersey police chief that is less technology driven on the eighth eyesight and more critical.

and the atlas model, it says, if the police department is the patient, wear your problems? is it on domestic violence incident, is it on pedestrian stops? are you getting most of your civilian complaints from car stops? and the pull those incidents and they'll sit with the officer and play them their tapes with the department policy alongside. it and will say that this is, you this is the policy, are you doing right? are you doing it wrong? and, then there are two important things, laura. number one, if lots of them are doing it outside of the policy that you have to ask yourself what is wrong with the training if the officers don't get the policy. do we need to fix something on our end as managers or if it's a small number of officers we need to get them retrained. >> and also, yeah -- >> so these tools are finding their way to improve police departments, for more than just reporting in the past. >> and you're right about also identifying essentially what we talk about the culture of policing in that department may ultimately be.

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whether, plan filmmaker nominee in february 15th with charleston. she'll be the first republican to jump into the race and challenge former president, donald trump. haley gave her clear syndication that he would run during an interview with fox news just last month. >> when you're looking at a run for president, you look at two things. does the current situation push for new leadership? >> the second question is, how might that person that could be this new leader. yes, we need to go in a new direction. and can i be that leader? yes. i think it's time for new generational change. i don't think you need to be 80 years old to go be a leader in d.c.. >> well, back with me now, ashley ellison, laura beroun lopez on these points as well. let me start, the idea that he's playing immediately be generational, card that the idea of, we know what she's talking about given all of the kind of surrounding president biden, and frankly, president trump as well. it's a successful strategy. >> well, i think it's important

to know that it is a way of attacking trump while appearing to attack biden. but, the question about whether it is an effective strategy has to get it to another point. voters can make their own conclusions about the age and fitness of a candidate. they don't need you to ask the candidate to pointed out to them. so i do wonder if that's maybe a little bit crude. >> well, if it's great, it's been done thousands of times in the last couple of years. but your point is well taken. laura, on this point though, there's been a lot of conversation about who would throw their hat into the ring. i might be a bit of a sacrificial lamb. now, the one person who is in the race for donald trump can have their sights fixated on this person. announcing this early, what do you think? >> the question is how many quickly announced a succession behind her or she is left up for a while in the form of a president going out each other. is she able to differentiate herself?

because, right now, she's going to have to explain within the trump administration, supported a number of his policies. but, beyond generation, how exactly is she going to say that she is different than the former president. and, right now she hasn't explained any of that. >> and you know, the name that's come up as governor ron desantis, frankly, there's been a reason for doing so. listen to what the former president had to say about a potential desantis run. an issue of loyalty coming up. >> ron would've not been governor if it were for, me and that's what i mean when i hear him run. i come -- consider him disloyal. for me, it's always about loyalty. >> well, loyalty is been a common refrain. but i do want to play what desantis front in response to that. listen. >> not only did we win reelection we won with the highest percentage of the vote that any republican governor

candidate has in the history of the state of florida. we won by the largest rafa margin, over 1.5 million votes than any governor candidate has ever had in florida history. and so, what i would just say is that that verdict has been rendered by the people of the state of florida. >> actually, what's your take on this? in part, laura's point is really well taken that hillary's going to have to explain the why, now, and the allegiance to the former president. many of the issues of loyalty coming up -- is that nuance going to be appreciated? >> i don't actually know. i think that haley and desantis, both, are very closely aligned to donald trump on a policy known. and i think the desantis point about the electorate speaking clearly in florida mine do about his election to say guess what trump i want and i didn't need yet in this reelect to kind of get a job without even

saying trump's name but for donald trump though the more people who drop into the race he doesn't really want desantis evenings yes a lot of money that he can spend through his putt and canceled and so much. he wants more people in this race for what the number of republican party and -- it is really her running against donald trump and if she was smart she would start running against biden also against joe biden -- and more in the republican feel i think the better cheers for donald trump. >> you know, i think it's also interesting that trump is playing the loyalty card. because remember his success in 2015 2016 he was against the cells. this is a classic ex

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over doses of antibiotics, which actually led to this severe pain and the loss of weight. and he has been kept in a really unbearable condition because this is a 7 to 8 feet concrete cell where he has been kept almost permanently. 11 times in a row. he has been sitting there and now he's going to be spending his six months in a cell, just like, that it's called the cell type facility. and you're not allowed to lay down your -- during the daytime, because that first comes to the wall. the only thing that you have is a small iron steel and as they can recall he has been poisoned for the nerve, agent and although he survived this poison and he was able to recover there are consequences to that. it takes a toll. a huge toll on your health. and i mean, all that's happening to him right now is

on top of everything that what is happening to him before. for example, the severe back pains. and it's so small that he wasn't able to do his regular routine. like physical routine. which helps with the back pain. and, now he's also losing this weight and he is experiencing sleep deprivation which, you know was a torture. and, in front of this cell where he's been kept they have put another person who is clinically insane of some kind of medical definition of that. who is barking at night, who is crying at night and he can hear it very clear. so he can't sleeve and they also put a very bright lamp, three of those actually in his cell. so, so bright that it hurts his eyes. so, all in all, everything that they do, they do it to break him. >> yes, it's impossible, let's

put it this way he will die before he breaks. that's for sure. >> and i want to point, out he's been tweeting or through his lawyers we've been able to get a tweet out and one of them he says how important it is to do just about everything in order to throw the yoke of these off of russia, let's try to remain strong into all we can every day. because, we're going to talk about his confinement. and he's still defining and trying to make sure that people realize the importance of him as a symbol and what it really means even now. even though, and not only, that he uses the colony on every violation of his rights which, is again, permanent because when it comes to novelty there's no such things as a glimpse of rule of law even by the unbearable standards of the russians and what counts with a rule of law were there. and he uses every hearing in this penal colony to protest against the war to state his

entire war position and to say to the russian people that they need to fight it. not only five for our country but to fight against the war. and this is one of the reasons why they are still severe to him. because they cannot silence him no matter what they do. no matter how unbearable they do it to him. and they really do it to make him suffer, to make him regret. what he returned and stayed with this country in the state of his position. >> and reality, all they've done is help strengthen the resolve of everyone washing to ensure's freedom. thank you, everyone for more on the story of how alexei navalny ended up in prison, just surviving an alleged assassination attempt by the kremlin. check out the oscar nominated film, novelty screaming -- greeting right now on hbo max. next, among the humanity of the hyperpartisanship in d.c..

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