the so-called war on woke is heating up. tonight, we're learning arkansas's republican governor, sarah huckabee sanders, may soon be signing a bill that would impose restrictions on direct shows. that's according to the washington post. this proposal still needs to make its way through the state house to the governors desk. her spokesperson telling the post, the proposal is not about banning anything but protecting kids from sexually explicit drag shows. unquote. cnn has reached out to governor sanders for comment, and we're still waiting to hear back. that's not all, her first month in office, she issued an executive order to prohibit critical race theory and arkansas schools. she also banned the term latinx, in official documents. and it's not just her, across the country more politicians are getting traction with rhetorical and legislative wars on so-called woke culture and language.

i want to turn now to new york times columnist nicholas kristoff, he has a new piece out on these language wars, and right in part, i fear that linguistic contortions, however well meant, aren't actually addressing our country's desperate inequities or achieving progressive dreams. rather, creating fuel for right wing leaders aiming to take the country in the opposite direction. nicholas kristoff joins us now on this conversation. i'm glad that you're here, very thought-provoking column, and one that people have been talking about, frankly, for a very long time. i wonder, in your mind, what is the goal with all of the new words, is to be inclusive, of course. but you fear that it might be alienating some? >> yeah, of course, i come at this from a completely opposite perspective of governor sanders. -- [inaudible] >> having a little bit of hard

time with your audible audio, i want to get that fixed, i want to hear your position. it's very important, especially given this very thought-provoking piece. it's not unlike, frankly, what the former president barack obama had to say on a podcast. a few months ago, before the midterm elections, talking about the idea of the good intentions leading to some kind of alienation. i have you back, what did you want to say? >> yeah, i come at this from the opposite perspective of governor sanders. i think that we should be inclusive, i think we should be prepared to think about our language and use it in a way that obviously doesn't dehumanize anybody. i do think that we've gone overboard. human you raise the term latinx, okay. 3% of latinos use the term latinx. representative richie torres himself, a latino, told me that this says more about the agenda setting power of affluent white

leftist than it does about the interests of working class latinos. and i'm seeing you right now from rural oregon, i think that there are a lot of americans who, instead of feeling included, feel -- that the gap between well educated liberals often urban liberals, who are crafting these new terms is excluding them. they don't know where to tread. they resent it. i think that makes them more likely to vote against their economic interest into support somebody like governor desantis. so, coming at this from a liberal, i think our efforts to be inclusive have actually been counterproductive. >> is there a way to course correct? i know one of the examples that you write in this about the examples you talk about, perhaps, being a gift to say governor ron desantis the idea of people wanting to go in one

direction that might be contrary to what they're stated interests have been, because they're trying to get away from the feeling of walking on eggshells. you write also about a recent tweet, this is really interesting, from the associated press style book, by the way. it says, we recommend avoiding general and often dehumanizing labels such as -- french, the disabled, the college educated. the french one stands out, obviously, as odd in and of itself. they ended up deleting this tweet. i wonder, what do you see was the goal in the first place of this style book? section? >> i mean, i think they had a concern about the way the is used. sometimes in ways that are pejorative. people if somebody says the jews, or the blacks, that sounds throat clearing to something bigoted that's going to come next. i think that's less true of the

college educated, and certainly is not true of the french. so, -- >> it might be. >> depends on who's talking, i don't know. >> yeah. go ahead. >> you know, i guess i wish we would spend more time fussing -- less time fussing over linguistic rules, and more time solving problems. here on the west coast, we have an enormous problem with unsheltered homelessness. the places in the country that have come up with the greatest linguistic response, people experiencing homelessness, houselessness, at segura. are the places that have the greatest homelessness. i have friends who are homeless, they appreciate the concern, they appreciate the inclusiveness. what they want is a new term, what they want is housing. i wish that we would focus more on actually solving some of these practical problems, i think i would be better for the

people were trying to serve, and for actually winning votes and, you know, in the next election. >> you illustrated the idea of form over substance, more colloquial put, putting lipstick on a pig. a number of the instances we'll see what happens -- now speaking to you, a very compelling and thought-provoking piece thank you very much. >> could be with you. >> thank. you want to bring in cnn political imitator's van jones and scott jennings. here to the conversation, let me bring you in here first, van, on this point. scott, only because i don't to go from lipstick on a pig knowing that you have a pig, and thinking i was only singling you out on this. he really does have a pet pig, everyone. there you go. van, i'll begin with you instead. then, is nick kristoff right in the sense, or some on the left under cutting their own messaging by going, what they believe to be, too far? >> yes. >> great, now for scott.

>> i mean, obviously so. i think scott nigher gonna be in violent agreement tonight. i understand that there are people who are concerned about the status quo in the way certain groups are left out in this mistreated there, worried about some of the ways we talk might be the old language might be codifying the old attitudes. they want new language to signify new attitudes. but it's gone so far. it's a joke, it's a parody of itself all too often. even people like myself, who are passionate committed to these causes, you find yourself your afraid to even talk on a zoom call, because you might say the wrong word that's been 15 minutes being lectured about how something that nobody has even heard of six months ago is now required speech. in polite company. it's a distraction from getting actual anything actually done. >> i used to fall on that point, how does that, in your mind, translate to how an electorate might perceive this, this is

one thing to have the idea of whatever barriers and guardrails ought to be in place or are now in place, in the private sector of course, and in your own individual lives. in terms of how it translates for voters, do you see this as being problematic for those who are, maybe, democrats and incumbents? or liberal minded? >> you're asking me? yes he's got? >> yes, van. >> we are handing a big fat gift to the right. because before they could get in, before, you know, get a chance to engage with these issues and what's going on with people who don't have houses, people being left out. because the language is so crazy, you can just make fun of the whole side, whatever these people are talking about, they have too much time on their hands. whatever these people are talking about, they've clearly not like me and you. they have this much time to come up with people who are assigned female at birth, if you've got that many syllables to fire at the word woman, you've got more time on your

hands than i have to. it creates a cultural gap between the democratic party and an awful lot of voters, which is not necessary. >> scott, on that point. i want you weigh on, one woman police. because there was a group of democrats, by the way, who are in connecticut, who are the latest politicians calling for a ban on, for example, latinx. that term on official government documents. of course, you have the arkansas governor, sarah huckabee sanders, doing something similarly. there are democrats who are also against the so-called language wars that van is alluding to as well. how do you see this, scott? >> well, on the point you asked about earlier, the electoral impacts of this. look around the country, look around middle america. look around rural communities. you just don't see that many elected democrats anymore. here i'm sitting in kentucky tonight, about the elector democrat left in office of other than our governor andy pertshire, if you look at the state legislature, they're bleak clustered on the urban areas. that's two and a lot of states between the coasts.

i think a lot of it has to do with this language where they are talking about, and the implications of it that van is alluding to. when you speak like this, and you don't sound like a normal person talking about normal everyday stuff, you sound like your searching for things to make up. searching for problems to make up and you using language that sounds foreign, like a foreign language to people out here in the middle of the country. it is a total barrier to political communication. how can i listen to what you have to say about whatever the problem of the day is when you using the language i don't even recognize. >> -- if i are putting my democrat strategist head on, i would say, this is one of the biggest problems their party has, in rural america right now. you may have all the greatest policy ideas in the world, but these cultural language problems and some of these invented issues i think, in catering to a real fringe, who are trying to push this on the rest of us and make us all feel like we're taking crazy pills,

major barrier. it's going to be a real electoral barrier. >> let me just say, though, obviously, we're talking about this in very wide terms. very wide umbrella to think about what all the terms we're speaking about. certainly, there will be those who agree that certain terms will seem quaint foreign, generationally, there are certain terms that are being used or being asked to be used that would honor someone's individual identity or honor somebody's individual feelings that of their connectivity to the world around them. is it so unlike, say, the transition from words black to african american, is it so unlike the conversation that we've had overtime about how we address changes in the way that we view our society, and we codify, we use our language, van, to really codify some of the transition in the evolution of thought? is it problematic to have a language that matches the way in which our moral compasses

point at this point? >> look, this is tricky stuff. you don't want to give aid and comfort to people who actually, you know, hate poor people. or who despise poor people. don't care about trans and gender kids, don't care about gays ellen lesbians, don't care about people of color. don't care don't to give karen comfort to those folks. i'm -- talk about the people who care. the people who really care, but who may be speaking in ways that are confusing or alienating, or come across as so morally superior, or so intellectually elevated, that other people who care feel left out. in other words, trying to fight alienation, you can create alienation. in terms of trying to fight exclusion, you might create exclusion. and that's just the moral hazard of trying to move things forward. i think we have to take that moral hazard seriously, those of us who do care, i don't want to do anything that's going to make it harder for us to deliver justice. the way we're talking sometimes, i think it's actually can be a barrier. listen, every generation is

going to say, look, we want to do it differently. we want to say it differently. you have this generational friction. that's okay. we'll get through it. but it's not like it's only on one side, if you don't agree with us on this term, that we just came up with six months ago, you're a bigot. that implication, i think, is dangerous and unfair. >> who is doing that, scott? >> oh yes. >> alaska on this point, especially the idea, again, taking a step back, we're talking about very broad terms here, all of the terms, so to speak, which i would note that the associated press had a style guide about the word the being used here for that very reason. talking about the terms that are out there, scott, is this in and of itself, however, a talking point where it seems as though everyone is being attacked and tarred and feathered because they use the wrong term. not the international zeitgeist? is that more of a talking point that suggests that, hey, you would be targeted? the fear tactic, what might happen as opposed to the

reality? >> oh, i think van is exactly right. van and i don't agree on everything, we've got a lot of conversations where we do agree. but he sometimes, i think, where i am. and that is having conversations where you're trying to talk across party lines or talk across ideological lines, you know, i'll just be candid. sometimes you feel like you're walking on eggshells. because you don't know what you're gonna say that could totally derail a meeting, or totally derail what is otherwise something that's going in a positive direction. i know people in corporate settings feel that way, you're talking walking up and down the hall wondering if hr's gonna come knocking on their door, step on a college campus with a conservative worldview, and you're worried about opening your mouth. i think a lot of conservatives feel like there is a group of people in this country who are openly looking to target anyone who doesn't fall in line with this new language zeitgeist, and as van said, some of the stuff was just recently

invented. you don't hop on board, they then try to use that to make you look like your racist or a bigot or you somehow don't care about the problems of the day or poor people or what have you. -- and that is simply not true. that is targeting some real fear, and it does happen. >> you know, what i love about your show, we could be nuanced here. there's two things that are happening, not just one. on the one hand, you do have people who, and i've had the experience of saying the wrong thing and suddenly the meeting is derailed and you don't even know the new term. that's true. also, you have people i think like governor desantis, that is using this. that's actually taking this and trying to use it as a political weapon for his own purposes. i don't think he necessarily believes are about cares about anything, this is a new cudgel. it is a new talking point for some on the right, to try to get something going. two things can be true at the same time. i think on the right, be careful, because it sounds like you don't care about people. on the left, be careful because it sounds like you're being a little bit highfalutin, and more interesting and sounding right than doing right. all of us as we get to this new

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he came over any begged me, begged me for an endorsement. he was getting ready to drop out. and there were tears coming down from his ice. he said you dorsey, all when. >> i want to know if that's true. i really want to know if that was true. joining me now, cnn political commentator, ashley allison. former national republican senatorial committee aide, liam donovan, and margaret talib, director of democracy, journalism and citizenship institute at syracuse university. look, margaret, he desantis has not officially throwing his hat into the ring it. he's already however being targeted by donald trump. even after news and others are thinking about doing and going into the race, what does this tell you about the offensive on desantis by trump? >> donald trump knows who his biggest rival looks like right now. but desantis is not the only target of trump's verbal warm-up activities. he's proactively going against nikki haley, is going to be another two weeks before she throws her hat in the ring. >> calling her disloyal, right?

>> throwing some shade at pompeo, a little bit of mike pence. at a minimum, he's trying to get everyone who might jump into that race to understand that if they really come after him, he is going to set them on fire. in fact, when pressed about whether he would support a nominee other than him, he's not saying that he will. it is, again, raising that specter of, is donald trump going to be in a position where, if he's not the nominee, he's going to set the party on fire? that's for a year from now, okay? in the meantime, he's very clearly trying to set boundaries. he understands he's gonna have rivals in this race, he's trying to get them to behave. to turn against each other. and to save some of their fire against him. >> i want to play that moment you talk about, where trump was speaking about not wanting to support the republican nominee, if it were not him. listen to this. >> if you're not the nominee, will you support whoever the gop nominee is? >> it would depend.

i would give you the same answer i gave in 2016, during the debate. it would have to depend on who the nominee was. >> groundhog day, liam. here we are again, on this point. i will say, if you are governor desantis, and the fact that you are one of the people that trump is targeting, you might want to give yourself a pat on the back, something is going right for you. you are perceived as a rival, right? >> i think the desantis team understands that they are the ones that are obviously seen as the key rival. they froze in this field in a lot of ways. i think people expected by now, you have a lot more people joining the battle. everyone is waiting to see, not only whether desantis gets in, but when he gets in, how he attacks this. how he's received. he's been built up, in a lot of ways, by a lot of right-wing media, to a lot of these voters, and there's going to be a moment where people need to see what they're getting is what they've been promised. right now, that campaign or campaign to be is very pro

sitting very deliberately, very carefully. it looks a lot like george w. bush campaign in 1999. road testing some of these things, doing a book tour, a lot of people coming down to tallahassee to kick the tires. not fully engaging to the point where donald trump can really get at him. it shows a level of desperation and fear coming from the trump camp, that they're really trying to engage him already. >> speaking of trump, his former press secretary is now the governor, of arkansas. sarah huckabee sanders now named to do the retort essentially for the state of the union address. what is that telling that she was the one who was chosen at this time, not say, governor desantis, perhaps, or even or anyone else? >> i think traditionally, whoever does the response is a rising star, but not someone that would necessarily decide they were going to run in the most upcoming election. for president. i think it also says a lot about the republican party, let's not forget the era of

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800 grams of fentanyl, that turns into 400 to 500,000 potentially lethal pills. think about that, one bag, that's 400 500,000 lethal doses. >> unbelievable. an investigation by the l.a. times has found that pharmacies in several mexican cities, including popular tourist and border towns, are selling counterfeit prescription pills containing fentanyl, and methamphetamine as legitimate prescription drugs. connor sheets is an investigative and enterprise reporter for the times, he joins me now. it's really starting to think about, just looking at those side by side, doctor gupta pointed out. you and your colleague actually tested pills, connor, from pharmacies in three different cities. what did you find? >> so, we tested pills in kabul san lucas, in san jose, in cabo san lucas, cabals in tiawan. we found that we tested 17

pills and we bought a number of different small pharmacies, we found 71% of them tested positive for an illicit substance. all of these cases, we're talking about opioid pills, such as vicodin, percocet, oxycodone, pills that are being sold as those drugs. in legitimate pharmacies in these tourist areas were coming up positive for fentanyl's. in adderall, pills that were being sold as a, terrell hunter percent of the ones we tested came up positive for mitt also. it's a widespread thing with just a few drunks. >> unbelievable, to think about. i'm hearing the stories as well we have to get people on the show as well, people who mistakenly taken or thought they were taking one drug, and taking another instead. it has been fatal. we know that there are pharmacies in mexico that sell a variety of medications that really we would require to have a prescription if it were sold in the united states of america. walk me through just how easy it would be, not only to get this, but how would someone be able to understand or know, identify themselves, whether what they're getting is legitimate or fentanyl?

>> there's really no way to know whether what you're getting is legitimate or fentanyl, other than testing it. there's test strips that are sanctioned by farm -- people like that, who know that people are gonna be using drugs, if you use these test drips it'll tell you, do my drugs have fentanyl in them? they look a lot like covid test drips, they tell tell you immediately if there's a trace of illicit substance in it. they want to be the concentration. you really just know that it's going to be in there. as far as how easy it is to get, you don't we just walk down the main areas in kabul, which is a very famous, popular tourist destination, and tiawan, right over the border, people go for medical tourism for the red light district, for eating. for going out at night. and really just walked into random pharmacies to some degree, other than the ones -- large chain pharmacies, most of the pharmacies you win into are selling these type of pills. >> i know in your reporting, these pills are likely coming

from mexican cartels, i do wonder about the crackdown now this is being more and more apparent. i also wonder, what is different about the american pharmaceutical supply chain? what makes a difference? are we here in the states able to understand and know that what we think we're getting is in fact what it ought to be? >> yes, that's a question that i don't know the answer to. you would hope the fda is doing its due diligence, to make sure that the drugs were -- that we're getting at a pharmacy are legitimate. these were drugs that did not require prescription. did not have to have a prescription, they were being sold individually over the counter. so, we think they may have been targeting tourists because some of these cost as much as $35 bill. if you imagine a working person living in mexico, or the united states, $35 a pill is a pretty steep price. this is probably people that are coming in for weekends, partying, those type of things are studying or whatever.

so, it's an interesting situation. >> it's really devastating to think about, just the span in reach of the opioid crisis. thank you for your reporting, and makes us all that much more aware, connor. thank you. >> thank you for having me on. >> you know, look, more than 100,000 people a year are now dying of drug overdose in the united states. the majority from opioids, according to the cdc. around 1 million have lost their lives to overdoses since the opioid crisis began. 20 years ago. now, the new cnn film, american pain, reveals the rise and fall of the identical twin brothers who ran one of the largest opioid pill mill empires in this country. here's a preview. >> the george brothers did not start the opioid crisis, but they sure is poured gasoline on the fire. >> let's talk about growing up in florida. >> anything to do with money perks chris ingests interest. >> the big money was at the pain clinics. >> it's window dressing that

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whole new world, the company partnering with creative soul photography to launch the creative soul doll collection. it is hitting shelves tomorrow morning everyone. first of all, i need to stop by, moment see what you are looking at right there. on the left, you see the images of young black girls dressed up as the characters on the right you have the doll embodiment of these figures. the collection is based on creative sultry mentioning of what classic disney princess would look like through a diverse lens. the dollars will pay tribute to disney princesses tiana, snow whites, rapunzel, and also cinderella with natural hair styles and afro-centric fabrics. they are all based on the artwork and vision of my visionary next guests. i'm so happy to have with me now the founders of creative soul photography, regis and

karen betancourt who join me tonight from the walt disney world resort. i'm so glad you are here with me today, i love your work. i'm so proud to see it. >> thank you so much. appreciate you for having us. >> talk to me about division here, because i have a ten year old son, i have an eight year old daughter, and believe it or not i once was the age of these little girls, and i think about what this would have meant to see this imagery, talk to me about what motivated you to do this initially. >> yes, so we are a creative soul photography as you mention, we have been photographing kids around the world for over 13 years now. and, one of the things we noticed was that, you know, there were so many negative stereotypes of kids of color around the world, in the media, and we really wanted to change that. we wanted to just provide a positive take on kids of color around the world, and we have

been doing that for years. and when we had the opportunity to work with disney to create the halls based off our photographs, we were so excited, because we knew the impact that would have on girls around the world, just being able to see themselves reflected in something as classic as the disney princesses. so yes, we were super excited about the opportunity. >> it is beautiful. i cannot stop, looking i'm looking at, you looking at the screen, everyone is captivating and mesmerized. and just the sheer genius behind the wardrobe selection, the choice of color, the hair, the styling of it, i mean it really is so unbelievable to look at, and the photo side by side, i wonder, when you start doing photography, did you ever expect that your photography would evolve into this level of social commentary, the idea of trying to make sure people saw themselves in the work, where are you thinking about this now

reaches? >> oh my gosh. i never thought that we would be here at all. we just do what we love to do, which is photograph kids, use our platform to give them a platform, and you know race their confidence, and just all of that good stuff, that is my selfish part of, it i love seeing that. so yeah, i never thought this would take us here, but -- >> we actually just showed our moms dolls, and just to reminisce about the fact that she is so excited, and the fact that we started in my mom's garage, right. so now to have her see these photographs, becoming dolls and disney princesses, oh my gosh, it is an amazing feeling. >> and we are seeing boys now. first of, what we are seeing boys on the screen as, well not just for the girls. of course my son is always, like that is, great but what about me, what about me? >> i know. i know. >> so beautiful. >> and, absolutely.

>> we do well, we photograph boys and girls. >> you know, i want to, know these dollars will be available starting tomorrow, what do you think it is going to mean to have a sense of -- i would love to see, them and i want to hold them in my hand, and i want to showcase it, because what a beautiful moment to have a vision realized, and then be tangible, and then be accessible. that in many ways is the beauty of art, what does it matter if it is going to be inaccessible to those who most need to see it. >> correct. yeah, i think that is the one thing that i'm excited about. i'm most excited to see the kids reactions to actually seeing at these balls, you know i think these are obviously special addition, but they are going to be made available at the shop disney website, and also the disney parks in so we are just so excited about kids being able to see these, when i

look at the stalls, you know, you just cannot stop staring at them. the details. we actually just did the unboxing of them a few minutes ago, and we literally cannot stop looking at them. just the details of the hair, the clothing, the fabrics, this knee really worked with us to collaborate on every piece of this collaboration. so, down to hair textures, skin tones, we wanted to make sure we had just a broad representation, we felt it was so important for kids to be able to see themselves reflected, -- >> not only, kids i'm excited for adults as well. we never got to see this kind of representation, and -- this is amazing. >> yeah, we are super excited. >> i'm so glad you said that, because now i won't be a shame when i have one as well. -- >> this is what we mean. what is the problem? >> we heard from plenty of adults that they will have

these. >> well, you know, you're sitting there right now the walt disney world resort, the are known for peeling to the kid in all of, us so why not have that be, there and as broadly represented as possible, listen, this makes me very proud to see as a mom, i cannot wait to share it with my children, i know the moms and dads everywhere always want something where a child can envision themselves, in a creative space, and to have that visionary foundation is so important. so thank you both. >> no, thank you so much for having us. we are super excited. you know, we will be at the festival of the arts tomorrow, at epcot, and so we will be doing tall signing, book signing, and we are just super excited about the launch, and for people to actually get these in their hands tomorrow, so i cannot wait. >> i love it. well, congratulations to you, all and thank you so much for being here, tonight and being visionaries as well. >> thank you so much for having us. >> thank you all for watching,

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>> promises, kept revenge as politics, or both? john berman here for anderson, in a moment i will be joined by representative alexandria ocasio-cortez to talk about what happened on capitol hill today. you will remember kevin mccarthy vowed last year, that if republicans took the house, he would strip democrats adam schiff, eric swalwell, an ilhan omar of committee assignments. so far he's -- from the intelligence committee and today, he led a house along party loves to remove ilhan omar from the foreign affairs committee. the reason given, she's made related to israel that in some cases have been