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>> promises, kept revenge as politics, or both? john berman here for anderson, in a moment i will be joined by representative alexandria ocasio-cortez to talk about what happened on capitol hill today. you will remember kevin mccarthy vowed last year, that if republicans took the house, he would strip democrats adam schiff, eric swalwell, an ilhan omar of committee assignments. so far he's -- from the intelligence committee and today, he led a house along party loves to remove ilhan omar from the foreign affairs committee. the reason given, she's made related to israel that in some cases have been
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criticized by members of both parties, as antisemitic, statements which she subsequently apologize for making. at the same time, speaker mccarthy has reinstated committee assignments for marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar. both of whom have had close ties to the far-right, including some white nationalists. the congresswoman, as you know has prepared masking rules to the holocaust, she apologized for that. she also posted on facebook, along ramble about california wildfire, solar power spottings, of what looked like laser beams and the rothschilds, a jewish family -- antisemitic tropes. congressman gosar, was responsible for a violent anime style video, showing a character with his head killing the house speaker, nancy pelosi, and alexandria ocasio-cortez, who spoke out today. >> i had a member of the republican caucus, threatened my life, and you all, and the
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revoking caucus rewarded hem. with one of the most prestigious committee assignments in this congress. don't tell me, this is about consistency, don't tell me that this is about and condemnation of antisemitic remarks. when you have a member of the republican caucus who's talked about jewish space lasers, and an entire amount of trips, and also elevated her to some of the highest committee assignments in this body. this is about targeting women of color. in the united states of america! don't tell me, because i didn't get a single -- >> time has expired. >> thank. you know >> alexandria clare cortez joins us now, fresh from washington, d. c., thank you for being with. as >> thank you for having me. >> representative omar said the vote today was about revenge. is that how you see? it >> absolutely. you know, i think this was about revenge, it was about petty politics. but also, i think it's also important that, to state that
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this was not about republicans trying to feed a base that they've already primed for years under donald trump, with racism, massage in a, xenophobic, islamophobia. but also, it represents a stripping of an important perspective on the house foreign affairs committee, that bill had omar, as a refugee, as an immigrant, as the only hijabi women in the united states congress presents. and that perspective is credible in terms of american foreign policy. >> you brought up race, religion, i want to play a little bit more of what you said, let's listen. >> as a fellow new yorker, i think one of the things that we should talk about here, also one of the disgusting legacies after 9/11 has been the targeting and racism against muslim americans throughout the united states of america. and this is an extension of that legacy, consistency, there's nothing consistent with the republican parties continue to attack, except for the racism, and incitement of -- [inaudible] >> from somalia, a minority, but swalwell and chef are both white guys. so, that's not about race, but this is? >> when we look at all three of these. first of all, when you look at swalwell adam schiff.
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they're targeting, the republican party is tied -- targeting all three of them has always been about campaigning, it's always been about the perspectives that they. praying it's about political revenge in the case of all three of. bam political revenge from adam schiff, for his work on the impeachment of donald trump. political revenge with eric swalwell, in the incisive, his incisive ability to communicate against the trump administration. and the wrongdoings of the republican
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party. and in the case of ilhan omar, i believe that curse is especially amplified with racist targeting. because this is what federal basis, it's the same representatives that donald trump helped rally around, saying send her back to quote unquote, her country. her country is the united states of america. she's an american., so
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in the case of all three of these expulsions, there's either political revenge, or there is the absolute agenda. of racist, assange knee, xenophobic -- >> those three points, an addition to the political revenge, constitute modern trumpian politics. it's the pettiness, revenge, scorekeeping, and the use and the race, and baiting of identity in order to divide people up. >> what do you think speaker mccarthy, specifically, gets out of this? >> i think speaker mccarthy gets a fundraising boom, i think he gets potentially, -- trump and his base saying, i delivered on these promises. i'm a good soldier to the trumpian political base. i'm really letting the world know, that the house republican party is now being fully transformed. we're cementing the transformation. even with donald trump being, on their cementing the transformation of the republican party into a trumpian party. when that settles petty political scores. that's no longer motivated by classic, quote unquote, conservative politics of reducing a tax base, et cetera. but that this is truly just about service to their benefactor. >> or talk about speaker mccarthy, during the vote on the house floor, to make him
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speaker. there was this video of you speaking to congressman paul gosar, who we spoke about moments ago, posting the animal video showing the version of him attacking. you and you're seeing there talking, there was sort of almost a smile, somewhere in there at least talking in an animated way. -- you're okay with what he did, or he apologized to? you >> know, there was never an apology. but i think what a lot of people fail to understand is that when a workplace has been made unsafe or a person, it's that up to that individual to try and survive on their own. this is not institution that protects, it's not a party that protects people, that they disagree with but that being said when it comes to those remarks with representative gosar one of things i told him was that i can't stand what you did and i can't stand what you stand for but i don't think that you should support kevin mccarthy for speaker either. and that's one thing on one day, that i think both of us were in alignment. on >> did you feel safe sitting there with him? >> i think it's uncomfortable. serving with people who engage in what many experts deem -- terrorism. which is the incitement to violence in a --
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which is an incitement of violence using digital means -- and platforms. the individual myself may not be the only one -- but i've had to ride as has represented a omar. consistently having to ride in 20,000 pound armored vehicles. already gauging in some of the most gruesome threats that we can imagine. that were incited by republican members. this is not just about a tweet. it's about what life looks like. and the marshaling of hundreds, thousands, if not thousands of people into doing something. donald trump knows that very. while he uses, and uses his rally. very strategically. in order to engage in political intimidation of what he deemed his political enemy. >> i think donald trump will be the republican nominee? >> we may see. he'll either be the nominee, or who burned out
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situations. these individuals that kevin mccarthy has appointed. -- george santos claimed that his grandparents were in the holocaust. that was a lie. it's a disgusting lie. marjorie taylor greene regularly trafficking and antisemitic conspiracy theories. paul gosar, inciting these are individuals marjorie taylor greene, included, inciting violence against specific members in the body. he has appointed all three of them. to house
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committees, not just, won by multiple, a larger taylor greene who was engaging in 9/11 conspiracy theories, kevin mccarthy appointed her to homeland security committee. so, there's really no consistency here. and it needs to be very well known, that this targeting of ilhan omar, is because the republican base finds it easy, the republican base finds it politically self rewarding, and i also believe that the republican base seeks to remove a perspective that challenge as a sort of foreign policy establishment in this country. she advocates against the pivoting to war, the defaulting to use of violent means, in american foreign policy. she really pushes this country to engage in diplomatic means. and to center the means of refugees, survivors, and the casualties of war. >> we keep talking about kevin mccarthy, let's listen to a bit of what the speaker said. how he justified the vote today. >>, now that's the clear part of how it's not-for-tat. we're not removing her from other committees. we just do not believe when it comes to foreign affairs, especially the responsibility of that position around the world with the comments that you make. >> she should not serve their. but this is clear, if it was-for-tat, we would've picked people, to come off all committees, and said nothing about it. we do not believe in that. >> what he's saying there is that gosar and marjorie taylor greene, were stripped of all their committee assignments, representative omar's been taken off of foreign affairs. but you will get put on budget. which is another -- sought after committee there. to be, clear she did make comments, which i will repeat here. that are antisemitic. she apologized for them as you said. so, mccarthy saying, it's not-for-tat. does he have a point? >> i don't think a dad. as first of, all when he says that
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gosar, and all these folks -- from their committees. republicans did not do that, in, fact they appointed them to committees. paul gosar is on house oversight, i believe natural resources, the same two committees i serve on by the way. they're very selectively putt, this individual on the exact to committee -- >> do you think that was intentional? i >> do not know. i can not speak it to kevin mccarthy's mind. but it certainly should have been a consideration as speaker of the house that he should've taken into account. >> because gosar posted the video -- >> absolutely. the on, that he also pointed to marjorie taylor, grain to oversight and homeland security, so this idea that they did it to one and the other, is something that can be dispensed. wyatt but when it comes to representative omar's role on the house foreign affairs committee. she has modeled what coming together with the community looks like. what apology looks. like one of
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the leaders of of the large group of jewish members and congress, stood up in her, several jewish members of congress, jane schakowsky, john phillips, stood up in defense saying that she's engaged in a process of reconciliation with us. this is a model of what this kind, of this kind of incident should look like. they were begging kevin mccarthy, as jewish members of congress, if you listen to what jane schakowsky said, you do not speak for me. you cannot do this on my behalf. and, yet he still railroaded that. which is really what gives the whole game away. in, fact representative miller, who brought forth the resolution, in discussing it today really gave the whole game away. when he started to a quiet -- and i must international, certain bodies within the u.s., and even israeli human rights organizations have been sounding the alarm. that the human rights crisis in the west bank, and palestinians face, is
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constituting. apartheid. and he acquitted that position, that global human rights organizations have already raised, as antisemitic. and that right there, is the slippery slope that we really need to be paying attention. two >> so far in the house arrest about it's been a big battle daylight battle for the would be speaker now there's been day spent, knocking people off committees. how much you think can get done in congress? >> i mean, kevin mccarthy took about a week to become selected speaker at the house, something that is typically a ceremonial for modi because all of that brawling happens in the months between november and january. they take analysis and tire month to organize the committee's. we just had our first over security hearing is today. serving in oversight under the great elijah cummings, one of the things that he told us, a congressional term is two years but you really have the first six months to be effective because you go out in august and when you come back, members of congress already have a primary election coming up. you had the first six months to get your legislation
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rolling. kevin mccarthy already burned through month one doing nothing. no committee is being formally organized. these first six months, he cannot afford to lose that kind of time, so now he's down to five months, and what we're seeing next week on the docket for oversight committee, for example, they are spending a week doing a hearing on twitter, so i do not anticipate this republican majority being able to do much or be effective beyond the engaging and political stance, and that is to the detriment of americans, both republican and democrat, as well as independent, because things are
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not going to be getting done in the way that they need to be, under his leadership. >> representative alexandria ocasio-cortez, fresh from washington d. c., thank you so much. >> thank you so much, john. >> next, look up in the sky, not a burden or a plane, it's a chinese spy balloon, really. and this could be footage of it. we do know that it's over the united states, the size of the buses, and it is breaking news. a former top air force general joins us to what to do and do about it. later, new developments and the -- potentially damaging information that jurors will soon be allowed to hear. soon be allowed to hear. let's go! ♪
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between the u.s. and china in the years ahead. as the u.s. military has been expanded its footprint in the pacific with an eye towards china. for the latest on this by balloon, let's go to our senior national security correspondent, alex marquardt. alex, what more are you learning about this balloon, and is it still over montana? >> john, montana is the one place that the pentagon has said it's been spotted. they have not said where it is exactly. we now know it came across the border from canada. as he said, it is quite large, the size of three school buses. it is flying well above what we are told, the altitude where commercial planes fly. it is in the atmosphere, but in american airspace. it is loitering for longer than pass instances.
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that's right, there has been several examples in the past few years, including, were told by the pentagon, the past administration, when the chinese sent similar balloons into the united states to carry out the surveillance. so what are they looking for? as you know, montana, sparsely populated, that's also one of the reasons that the u.s. keeps one of the parts of the nuclear try it in montana. there are fields of siloed, nuclear ballistic missiles in montana. the pentagon says that this balloon was over or near sensitive areas, including military areas. we have to imagine that's the kind of intelligence that they are gathering. the pentagon does note that this type of balloon does not really at much more benefit in terms of intelligence gathering capabilities then say spy satellites. one major question now is why would the chinese sent something across the border, excuse me, that is so highly
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visible that the military has been tracking for several days? >> alex, what options does the u.s. have to deal with the balloon, if any? >> the big option, of course, is to shoot it down. that's one option they have considered quite closely, and that they have ruled out. we're told by the pentagon that they did shut down temporarily the airspace over billings, montana. that jet scramble to get them options. planes have got up to look at the sting, but they determined that it is too dangerous to shoot this done. the president was briefed, as for military options, advised by top military officials to keep -- secretary of defense lloyd austin did not shoot down, and fifth interest for people and for property on the ground, so for now, they continue to monitor it, continue to follow it, the pentagon says we do have. options >> alex marquardt, stay on this for us, thank you very
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much. >> perspective now from retired u.s. air force general, -- thank you for being with us. what stands out to you about the suspected spy balloon? >> first of all, your correspondent did a good job of capturing the big elements here. it's not the first time, it is well above a danger to airplanes and thinks. it is over sparsely populated area but very important area, as he pointed out because part of our nuclear china there. i think more interesting is why now? as you know and others have reported today, we're on the precipice of several important delegations going to china to include our secretary of state, our president is coming up on his state of the union, so why would the chinese choose now to sort of make this point and put this into the new cycle? some have said that this could've been a bit of a stink. everything that flies is subject to weather, maybe we have another atmospheric change
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that has put this thing in the wrong place at the wrong time, i kind of thought the, but it is a possibility. on the other side, a more alarming side is this was put here a purpose, at this time, in order to message, and that would be something we would have to look at. the final thing i would throw out real quick john, your correspondent made a great point, low flying satellites can do a lot of good work and maybe better work than this balloon, but what we don't know is what exactly is the balloon carrying, and what is it trying to sense or collect? we have a good idea of what goes up on satellites, and we sort of understand, but when you get a big package like this, that can carry a lot of kit, it's concerning to know what they're actually out there. >> so, even if it's not opposing an immediate threat, why not try to knock it out of the sky anyway? with the potential downside there? >> well, it was stated before, even though this is a remote area of the nation, there are americans living below it. as i said, this is a big piece of good, so i think it's highly unlikely that it would hit someone, but there is that possibility. i understand that's part of the calculus. the first thing that came to my mind, i am sorry, john? >> do we have balloons like this over china?
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>> no, but we do have a lot of aircraft collecting in airspace that we consider to be international airspace, but the chinese consider to be chinese airspace, and that's the point that leap to me. if we shoot down a chinese objects over our airspace, is there a precedent that we can live with? would we dance a president or we think we're flying and international space near china but they believe it's chinese our space, and they take the same actions that we did. i am not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent, i just believe that there are some issues that we need to think through before we knock this out of the sky. >> retired general, philippe greek love, thank you for helping us understand what's going on, apparently still over the continental in that estates. appreciate it. just ahead, the ongoing russian missile attacks on kramatorsk in ukraine that are claiming the lives of residents. today, it came dangerously close to a cnn crew that was just yards away. our front pectin will join us live from ukraine, that is next.
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>> the director at the cia said today that the next six months will be absolutely crucial in ukraine. the top ukrainian defense official says he's not ruling of a major russian offensive in the next 2 to 3 weeks. in ukrainian civilians, many are living day-to-day or moment to moment, as russian shells and missiles target their homes over and over again. this is kramatorsk, where residential area compounded again today, forcing cnn stretch of putin and his crew nearby to race for shelter. >> [sound of artillery] >> [speaking non-english] >> let's go -- >> targeting civilians is nothing new for russia, and ethical is breaking ukraine row, it does not seem to be working. the main concern is what comes next on the battlefield, and today and, multiple u.s. officials tell us to expect the announcement of another round of military aid in the coming day, including crucially, longer range missions that can be fired from the himars launchers already in country, roughly doubling the range of the current markets. also today, vladimir putin issued a new
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veiled threats and answer to the common shipment of western tanks to ukraine. we are not, he said, sending thanks to borders, but we have something to answer with, and it will not end with the use of armored vehicles. so crucial months indeed. we have to report the night from cnn's fred pleitgen who narrowly avoided that striking kramatorsk and cnn's sam kiley back from kherson, which also got hip today. first, to fred biden. fred, so glad that you and your team are safe. tell us what you saw during the strike. >> yeah, first of all, this all have been in a residential area. i think it's important to point out that last night, there was already an airstrike on the town of kramatorsk, a missile strike, and that killed several people on the ground there. we went there today looking to film the search and rescue efforts still going on. it was a big search and rescue effort. there are a lot of forces blunders on the ground, the farther part mint, some
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pretty heavy equipment, because the ukrainians believe that there might still be people trapped in the the rubble. it was exactly that area that the russians then tried to hit again. we just arrived at the scene, left our vehicles, and we're on our way to the scene when the first big explosion happened. obviously, a lot of people went running for cover when that happened. we also made our way to a harden shelter to a building that we wanted to go into. as we were walking towards that building, i look back, and i could see the second missile impacting almost the same places the first missile impacted. there was a lot of damage on the ground, and the ukrainians later told us that they believe the missiles that impacted there, john, were s-300 missiles. those are normally missiles that are there to take down airplanes, however, they also have a ground to ground configuration, but when they are used in that ground to ground mode, they are extremely inaccurate and obviously losing them and populated areas can lead to a lot of civilian
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casualties on the ground. certainly, this is something that caused a lot of havoc on the ground there, a lot of damage on the ground. we would have to get out as fast as possible but, of course, a lot of the people there on the ground in kramatorsk, they can't do that. they live with this missile threat every day, and one of the things that we've been seeing over the past couple of weeks that we've been here on the front lines around eastern ukraine is that especially the threat to the sort of areas that have been in the rear echelon, a bit more quiet, they've drastically increased over the past couple of weeks. it seems as though it really is part of the russian strategy to also hit those areas as they are also beefing up their forces on the front line for that possible big offensive, which some people here in ukraine, some officials in ukraine believe that offensive may have already started, john. >> when you are using missiles like that, it means you have no regard for the safety of civilians in that area. frederik pleitgen, again to you and your team, thank you and please stay safe. next to her
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son, where russian forces were driven out but not beyond artillery range, which means that for day after day, the russians have been saw in the city. cnn's sam kiley is just back from there and joins us now. sam, he spent several hours in kherson. i understand that people were asking you for help. what does that tell you, and what else did you find? >> you will recall, john, the celebrations that were marked when kherson was recaptured from the russian occupation back in november. that was very striking. now, of course, the situation is much, much worse with many scores of artillery, rockets, direct fire by tanks and mortars fired against the civilian areas and the military targets in and around the kherson city and much more widely in the province. we were there for a few hours on the ground, as you say. this is how it unfolded. [crowd chanting] >> 12 weeks ago, ukraine celebrated the liberation of course on four months of russian occupation. [crowd chanting] [sound of artillery] this is the scene today. >> the russians continuing to
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fire with direct fire from tanks across the river, which is just a few hundred meters in that direction, and on top of that, locals tell us that it's being regularly shelled with the multiple rocket launching systems, completely indiscriminate. homes have been blown up, hospitals torn by high explosives, in weeks of and ever intensifying bombardment. local authorities here talk of scores of artillery attacks on russian positions, just across the dnipro river. every day, firefighters and emergency workers keep their base location secret, their prime target our rushes guns. two people were killed around the city overnight. it missile landed very close to here
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recently, adding urgency to this food distribution to people still here because they're trapped by poverty. >> rockets threw in during the day, half past three, right here, our guard will stay in there. the guard got hit, they set. >> why do you think the russians are doing this? >> revenge, probably, she said, probably, revenge because they ran away. >> this underpass is a brief refuge taken by desperate civilian seeking help and food. >> most of the houses are destroyed, he said. people are staying without electricity, water and gas, and there is constant shelling. we're on the contact line, we live near the bridge. i'm nataliya take what help he can get from local government. a russian strike against city hall five days ago means that this plastic sheeting can be put to better use. >> what are you going to do with that? >> abort up the windows, the window is out, no class. >> he'll have to walk home. no
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one will drive to his neighborhood, it looks out across the river, at the russians. >> sam, it's unclear how the ukrainians are trying to defen d kherson the second time around? >> what we know from our own contacts is that, and it is inevitable really that the reconnaissance units have been operational infighting on some of the islands on the dnipro river, trying to probe the russian lines, trying to figure out whether or not the russians are just going to have to steady state of pounding kherson, slowly trying to grind its civilian population down. the military preparations more widely are closely guarded
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secret, of course. there has been top in the past of ever nude ukrainian offensive. i think it will be unlikely indeed to be conducted across the dnipro river, more likely to be, perhaps upper jean and the southern front or indeed focused on trying to push the russians back where fred has been busy over the last couple of weeks in the east around bakhmut, although that looked fairly unlikely at the moment. so, here on this front, really, the state of play is a low level of artillery from ukrainian side met with a very every barrages coming from the russians as they indiscriminately shell the city which at the moment is not heavily invested with ukrainian troops john? >> from the front, socratic, they give it much. up next day seven of the alex murdaugh trial. what the jury learned today about it snapchat video, which might be christian for the prosecution, a testimony
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l.a. committed murder trial are not allowed to hurt the prosecution's entire case, but that could soon change. as we have been reporting, murdoch is a disgraced former attorney charged with killing his attorney weapons on more than enough, go the alleged murder -- huge money troubles, some of them whisper that today in the courtroom, in walterboro south carolina. our randi kaye was there for, that a new information the jury is getting about a key piece of evidence, social media video. >> i work for snap incorporated. >> this employee from snapchat was called on to testify for the state, so she conduct them to get this video, if it was extracted from paul murdoch's phone after he and his mother maggie were killed. >> the username listed here as paul 9499. >> you do not see people on the, video but you hear him laughing and his father alex murdoch. >> do you determine a review of the records, whether that account sent off that particular video?
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>> yes, it was sand on the same day, june 7th 2020, one that -- i'm sorry, 7:56 hours eastern time. >> 7:56 pm, the night of the murders. that is less than an hour before prosecutor, say paul murdaugh's phone ceased all activity, which they say was about 8:49 pm. remember, alex murdaugh told investigators, he had not seen his family since upper time, that he discovered their bodies, and called 9-1-1, at 10:07 pm. what is especially significant about this video decides the time span, is what alex murdoch is wearing in it? notice the long, pants the short sleeve blue, shirt testimony shows when police responded to the 9-1-1 call a couple hours later, alex was wearing something different, shorts, and a white t-shirt. >> they are foreshadowing their effort to prove that somehow he showered, off washed his clothes, made those closed, disappeared, and changed. >> on cross examination, and
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the defense seemed to try and show that someone else may have shown where paul murdaugh was based on his snapchat, and that person killed paul and his mother. >> is it possible for -- i mean, i don't know how it, works for some or all of paul's friends to have access to his location through the app? >> yes, if he made his settings a visible, this geolocation visible to his friends, yes. >> that plays right into what alex murdaugh told investigators where after the killings, that paul had been receiving threats following a boat crash he was involved in. a young woman died in that crash, and paul had been charged with driving the boat truck and causing her death. on the issue of motive, out of the jury's presence, the -- chief financial officer of alex murdaugh's former law firm, told the court she confronted alex about hundreds of thousands of dollars and missing funds, just hours before his wife and son were killed. the judge has not decided if he will allow testimony about his
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alleged financial schemes, he is accused of defrauding clients of nearly $9 million before he was disbarred. >> had the firm received the -- >> no. >> this matter ever compare attention again at a later time? >> yes. that would have been in september after we found some other misappropriations, and we confronted alex and he had resigned. >> prosecutors say alex killed his wife and son to distract from his alleged financial fraud, and prevented from being exposed. >> and, john, getting back to that snapchat video, we have not seen any video that alex murdoch change closed, or washed himself, often fact an investigator testified today and on cross examination that she looked at the murdaugh home, and there was not any evidence of blood or tissue to indicate someone had washed or bathe or showered there to get rid of any crime scene evidence. >> all right, interesting, randi, kate thank you very
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much. let's bring in criminal defense attorney and cnn -- former prosecutor, let's start with you regarding the snapchat video. the idea that there are different clothes, at different times, and the time stamp itself raises questions about the alibi, the possible alibi here. what do you think jurors will pick from this? >> that is a great question, because jurors are human, they want to know what happened here. all the defense has to do in theory's race one reasonable doubt as to one juror, but in actuality the all really want to -- watching very carefully, and something like that gives them pause. what was he would doing, supposed to be napping, he does not look like he is not being. is wearing different clothes than he was when he spoke to the police, why would he change clothes if he is just going to nap. so you start to see these questions for the jurors, it brings some doubt into their mind about what the defense is putting forward, as to their store even though they don't want to give a story. so it is giving them a lot to think about.
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>> is here to give them something to grab onto if they want, but the flipside, the defense is trying to use the snapchat video to create some kind of reasonable doubt, saying someone else, you heard it in that piece, someone else not alex murdoch could've landfalls location from the video. it was maybe that person that killed paul and the mother, is that it plausible theory for the defense. >> well again, it is defense job to raise reasonable doubt. is it plausible that within minutes after paul's snapchat goes out, only to his friends for the most part, that somebody can clocks the plan that they can then take to fruition, by not killing two people, hiding the evidence, possibly? but like it was, said jurors have their common sense in a case like this. they want to know what is going, on they want to connect the dots. the defense as to get in the way of some common sense if they can, but i would tell you, that video is very troubling for the defense for a number of reasons, not the least of which
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is, it basically excludes any stranger, right? we now know that it is somebody familiar to the two victims. that is going to be difficult for the defense to get around. >> jennifer, in terms of the judge, if the judge allows the jurors to hear stuff about murdaugh's alleged financial crimes, how helpful will that be for the prosecution? >> so usually you are not allowed to put in evidence of other crimes are wrong, where you can if there is a legitimate reason for it like proving motive. here you have a case whereby all accounts, we do not have any reason to believe there is an unhappy marriage, there is problems with father and son, so what is the reason for this? so prosecutors want to give teachers this motive, even though they will technically have to prove one. this has become their motive. they say he was completely underwater, the pressure was coming in, he needed something to distract from what is happening to him financially. you know, i'm not sure that it is a great motive, but this is what they are going with. so i think it will help them. because, also, again, jurors are human, they are not
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supposed to take this evident and look at murdaugh, and that he is a bad guy, he must have killed his family, but again, we are human, if they start hearing about all these things he has, done all this money has stolen, that may take them a little bit against him. >> so, mark, the chief financial officer of murdaugh's former financial law firm confront him with huge accounting irregularities just hours before the murders. how relevant could that be? >> very. i think it is very troubling against for the defense, because he is very, very coincidental at least that today he finds out that he is in effect being outed by his law firm, for not only the $792,000 that he is confronted with, but also knew what else he had taken from the firm, which was going to come out. so yes, the pressure is enormous on him, the idea that people acted irrational in times of high pressure or stressed when things are crumbling down around them, i think the state now has the opportunity. if the judge allows, it and
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that is questionable, but if the judge allows, it it is going to give the -- raise the eyebrows of the jurors who want to look and say, now i know why you were doing what you may have done. >> thank you both very much. still to come, if you are living in the northeast, and we are, you will get the warmest winter coat you, have and where another one on top of, it because you are about to experience the kind of cold people have not seen or felt for generations. details ahead. tely feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patents say: “you know doc, it really works."
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>> epic generational freezing cold. just some of the discussions meteorologists are using for what could be some of the coldest weather felt in decades now descending upon millions in the northeast. wind chills in some areas could reach 50 degrees below zero. meteorologist derek van damme joins us now from the weather center with the latest. so, derek, this northeast is bracing for some awful cold weather.
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how cold are we talking? >> i like the teasing had before the break. if you've got you thickest winter coat put on another one right after it and that's the best way we could describe it. this cold is going to be so impressive. i was talking to my producer, my weather producer just before the break ended, and we tried to find the extremes in all these events and mount washington, the windiest place in the continental united states will have wind chill values of a negative 100-degree reading on saturday morning. that's extreme of. course no one lives there. but for places they do have a population density we're going to see once in a generation type cold. it is significant and it is brutal. here is the cold front right there. it is located over the great lakes and it is coming in very quickly. this cold front is responsible for the boston mayor declaring a cold emergency. it is responsible for school closures in vermont, massachusetts, new hampshire, rhode island, the list
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continues to grovel. we have 57 million americans with windchill alerts across the great lakes and northern new england as well. by the way, it's going to be so cold in utica new york that the zoological society has brought in all the animals to protect them from the freezing temperatures that are coming this way. look at the winds on top of mount washington. it will be sustained. hurricane-force, that's over 74 miles per hour, and get, this could gust as high as category four strength hurricanes. john, you've been in those types of winds. impossible to stand up. those are the values we are forecasting across the northeast. epic, epic cold. the good news is that it's a short duration cold snap. >> a bed a decline mount washington. that's one of the takeaways from this. hey derek, parts of the south recovering from that huge ice storm. what's the latest? >> this is what you get when you get a very cold, dense layer of air that sinks to the surface of the earth and then precipitation falls in a warmer layer just above, it a few hundred feet into the air, so the precipitation falling into the liquid variety but once it
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reaches the temperatures that are below freezing, it freezes on everything on contact, from power poles to tree lines to the roadways and runways across the airports. and of course this has translated into over 400,000 customers without power, mainly concentrated across the deep south into texas. you think about each household having roughly 3 to 4 people. that translates to about 1 million people in the dark tonight. you can see where the heaviest concentration of the lack of power right now. travis county, where austin is located, that area has a good percentage of the county without power right now with this ice report stretching across over doesn't states. we've had over three quarters of an inch in some locations. the good news, temperatures have warmed, and it's now falling in the form of rain. just cold rain. >> all right, derek van damme, you're gonna have a busy few days. thank you so much for being with us tonight. still to come, more on the video showing the aftermath after two missiles hit close to fred pleitgen in his team in
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