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and the latest on what china is saying about that balloon hovering over the u.s. and president biden is going to speak following a new jobs report that smashed expectations. 517,000 jobs added in january and nearly three times the forecast. we will bring you reaction live. and a life-threatening deep freeze headed to the northeast, and millions are bracing for once-in-a-generation sub-zero temperatures. china is confirming that the balloon floating over to the u.s. is theirs, and it is not a spy balloon as the pentagon
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says, but it is a civilian airship used for research are the words of the foreign ministry, and it is said to be the size of three buses. china says it accidentally drifted off course. and the sources says that china cannot manually control it, but how did it get there in the first place? the continental u.s. is a big target. >> yes, what happens next is the big question. the pentagon says it is not a military or physical threat to the people on the ground, but it is not clear why it is there. and our pentagon correspondent oren liebermann with the latest of what the officials want to do with the balloon. do we know how long it has been in the united states? >> the pentagon has been tracking it for several days, and how long it has been over the united states is unclear, and norad and canada has been tracking it, and so not clear how long it has been over the international border, but this is what the u.s. and canada have been watching closely, because
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the pentagon said it traveled over a number of sensitive sites, and they would not say what it was, but we know what is in montana, there is an air force base there which is home to the ballistic field, and that is the reason that the u.s. is concerned about it, and tracking it closely, but the u.s. has made a decision not to shoot it down partially because of a risk to people and facilities on the ground. this is what we know so far, the military options were on the table, and president joe biden asked for those options, but in te the end, the decision was made primarily from joint chief of staff mark milley decided not to shoot it down, and overnight, china took responsibility of the balloon, and they offered a different explanation than what the u.s. believes. this is a statement from the chinese embassy, and it says it is a civilian airship used for
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research, and mainly meteorological reasons, and the airship deviated far from the planned course, and the chinese regrets any unintend ed consequences of it drifted off course into the u.s. air space. they say they will work through the diplomatic channels to take the tension off of this between beijing and washington, and especially with antony blinken to visit to beijing which is the first trip of an american diplomat in some six years. how will this affect that, we will keep you posted. >> yes, that is in question there. thank you, oren liebermann. well, the balloon is coming just days before antony blinken goes to china for talks.
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>> and those talks were going to be tense with the bolster of defense in taiwan for example. and we are joined by dr. james clapper this morning. welcome. >> nice. >> and so, the satellites that fly over the u.s. every 90 minutes have capabilities at least at par with something like this, and they describe it at least in less significance of spig than just the audacity of the move, and now we have open discussions of shooting it down. i wonder how tense you describe this moment between the u.s. and china? >> well, it is potentially tense if we let it get out of hand. for a change, i am kind of prepared to accept the chinese explanation for this balloon. i have had some personal experience with using balloons as reconnaissance devices, and
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they are not very sufficient, and with the vagaries of fog and mist and wind. so i don't think that the chinese would expend the political capital here for an intelligence purpose in the face of and in contrast to the very capable overhead reconnaissance satellite program which gives them all of the intelligence they need. so we should put it in context and i certainly believe that secretary blinken should go ahead with the trip and certainly bring it up, but i don't think that the issue should be allowed to get out of hand. >> so director clapper, the question now becomes what to do with the balloon. the balloon is there, and china says they don't have control of it, and what should the u.s. military officials do in terms of bringing it down at some point, and they don't want to at this point for fear of harming civilians on the ground? >> well, bianna, the pentagon is going to watch it, and if it is
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going to pose some threat, and the more likely one is going to be a threat to aerial navigation, then they have to discuss on the contingency basis how to take it down, and they should consult with the chinese, and tell them, and keep them fully inform and be transparent about it, but in the meantime, since it is not posing a direct threat, and not a hazard to navigation, and just watch it, and see where it goes. >> according to the pentagon, this is not the first time that a balloon like this has come over the u.s. territory and previous sightings over hawaii and guam where there are military installations, and we had the former secretary mark esper said not to find a way to shoot it down, but take it down to assess the capabilities, and is that risky in your view or would it have value? >> i heard former secretary es per's commentary, and i certainly acknowledge his point
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about this being a brazen affront to the sovereignty, but how high does sovereignty go. if you want to use that rationale, then the overhead reconnaissance by the chinese and russians are potentially an affront to the sovereignty, and so we need to take on all of these fronts, and as loathe as i am to take on what the chinese say, i am willing to accept what they say this time. >> and how should the issue priority be here, taiwan? south china sea? i mean, there are so many to go on? >> well, the overarching issue is to try to arrive at some form of partnership at least for communications purposes, and there are many subissues,
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bianna, as you mentioned most notably taiwan, and i would hope that the secretary wouldn't cancel the trip, because of the balloon, and because there are big issues at stake here that need face-to-face discussion. >> yeah. there is a u.s. air force general who cause d a stir a wek ago to release really an exhortation under his command under the prospect of war in two years in year 2025 and that is not the pentagon's assessment, but he is a high ranking general in the indo pacific command, and is that an alarmist to you? >> well, general minahan has a reputation for being outspoken and frank and he was here, but from the military preparation standpoint, i don't think it hurts to alert the troops that
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the possibility for such combat is real. it could be sooner than many people think. now, you can debate about the politics and the p.r. impact and all of that, but i don't think that you can fault him for warning his, the troops under his command to be prepared. >> it is frightening to hear that especially since we are having economic tensions at an all-tie high with china as well. james clapper, thank you as always for your expertise. >> thank you. and new this morning, the january jobs report defied all expectations with the u.s. adding a defying 675,000 jobs last month, and 500 million more and doubling estimates, and sending the unemployment rate down since 1969 when humans first stepped foot on the moon. i am joined by marty walsh,
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secretary walsh, i imagine that you are happy with the numbers, and what is behind them? i am guessing that they were ahead of your expectations. >> yes, they were ahead of our expectations, and the numbers show that when the president was laying out a plan in the beginning of the term, and the plan is working. so we see in the report that there is a couple of areas business development, and business and leisure hospitality, and education, and government education and a little bit there, and so we are seeing the increase in labor participation rate, and we want to continue, because there are job openings in america, and we want to see it go up, and the unemployment rate in the country is the second lowest since we started to cut the data many since the '60s. >> and this might get headlines
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because they are outside of the market, and the big layoffs in tech and media, and some are making the point that some of the folks are getting the severance pay, so they won't show up in the latest ek expectation, and will they show nup future job losses, and are you concerned about that? >> i can't speak for the media piece of it, but the folks in the tech sector have gotten jobs already, and so it could be a reality, and we will know in the next couple of jobs report, and something that we are monitoring, but in the tech sectors, a number of companies were looking for tech support, but in the bigger companies they were looking to hire these folks. >> so in a gallup report, 2/3 believe it is a good time to find a job, and you can almost see the reverse of that when you are talking to folks about the
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way the country is going, right track/wrong track, and i wonder why you believe there is that disconnect? >> well, honestly, it is what we have been dealing with the country in the last four or five years with the uncertainty of government in the last administration, and most importantly covid-19 has really changed the way that people think. when covid began, i was the mayor, and even the disruptions in the city, and you will feel it in the federal government across the board and covid has put a lot of concern in people's minds, and it is lingering there, and after the divisiveness of covid and then when we were rallying with each other, and complaining about the vaccines and testing and the division there, and it is going to take some time to move forward and the president's message of unity and fighting for the soul of the nation is important, but people feeling good about the job market is a positive sign, and we need to continue to build on that. >> i know that you don't like to
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comment on the interest rates, but interest rates have an effect on the economy or the job market, and that appears to be part of the intent of the fed to cool it down to help to bring the prices down, and wages down, but they did trim the rate of the increase to a 0.25%, and are you concerned that the fed is going to go too far, and push the economy into a recession unnecessarily? >> i mean, for the last six months, the fed has been looking at their policy, and we have been working on our side, and the government side, and we are starting to see the inflation numbers coming down a little bit and not as fast as we have seen, and the wage growth is continuing to stay steady 4.4%, and what we wanted to do is to close that gap, but it is not closing as fast as we would like for people, but we are starting to see it happen, and again, it is a month by month approach to see how we can continue to bring
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the inflationary pressures down, and allow people to get into the good paying jobs. >> your name has been mentioned as the head of the nhl players association, and are you leaving for that job soon? >> well, i am not going to be making any news on that today. i have been working for president and the american people today, and so that is what i am going to be doing today. >> and so, the president is expected to speak on that jobs report. >> and so speaking of the jobs, jim, it is only fair for you to ask about his future. and still to come, the gop contenders and the future as they lay out their plans as president donald trump begins to lash out at the potential rival. we have heard this before. and an arctic blast in the northeast that it is going to be so cold that the forecasters are calling it a generational event.
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>> very soon the fbi is expected to search former vice president mike pence's home and washington office for classified materials. representatives for mike pence have been in talks with the justice department and they want to completely cooperate. last hour, i spoke with darren quigley and darren lahood and the lawmakers are looking at tougher penalties for those who have mishandled classified documents. this is what they say. >> nobody is above the law, and the problem is that first of all
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it is a bipartisan problem, and so it is going to require a bipartisan solution, the criminal threshold is apparently too high, and so this has to be, and this is serious, and there has to be some accountability. if it is civil in nature, sobeit, but at least it is going to be working to disincentivize those who are sloppy with the critical documents, and there is no excuse for this behavior. >> they are talking about the big penalties like million dollar fines and losing security clearances, and we are joined by molly ball of "washington times" and francesca, i am wanting to start with you, and they are trying to address the issue we are living with everyday if deliberately or not so much, and leaving the capitol with classified material, and does this have legs?
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>> well, lawmakers have told me on both sides of the aisle that there needs to be reforms, and if those come on the congressional level or if the laws that exist need to be enforced, that is something that there is not widespread agreement on, but they agree that there needs to be some reforms, and that is something that both sides of the chamber are looking at. >> and molly, both republicans and democrats made it clear that this is nobody is above the law as to who this should apply to. and are there reverberations in trump circles or biden perhaps that both, and trump said that he is going to run for election again, but president biden is expected to do the same. >> yeah, i think that both of them are going to have to eventually explained here what happened in both cases, and differences in all of the case,
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and the consciousness that the daughter is talking about, and it is a top ig of debate and national security community talking about issues of overclassification, and whether the current classification system needs information sharing as well as information secrecy, and so it being a bipartisan problem means it is possible that you could see meaningful reform, but as francesca said, it is not clear if it is coming from the national level. >> if you could standby, because we have breaking news just into cnn. the breaking news is regarding the trip by secretary blinken, the planned trip, and our correspondent is there live? the trip is off? >> yes, the trip to china by
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secretary blinken is postponed, and this is coming amid this revelation of this audacious sending is of this chinese spy balloon across the border into the united states. blinken is the highest ranking biden administration official to visit china since president biden took office. he had met wit h sxi jing ping, and so this balloon not under
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their controls, and now it is under the controls of the winds, and now we are learning that blinken is not going, because of the tense time between the u.s. and the chinese governments. just this week, we have heard that the u.s. is going to be opening up new military bases in the philippines. we saw a u.s. air force general predict that there could be war with china in 2025. and so this is going to ratchet up the tensions between china and the u.s. we know that they have summoned the charge deaf d' affair there >> and yes, the canadians had summoned their ambassador to china as well. alex s there a specific response on the u.s. side to the explanation delivered to china for the balloon here?
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>> well, we are expecting one, bianna, and we are expected to hear an explanation of the postponement of secretary blinken's trip, and we are hearing this on background from two u.s. officials. it is not something that is really all that surprising considering fact that this is a surveillance balloon intended to gather intelligence over sensitive sights in montana where the u.s. has over 100 nuclear ballistic missiles, and according to the pentagon, this is something that has happened in the past. and how this is different? well, it is coming right before the planned meeting with secretary blinken which is due to take place the next date, and one date is february 6th, and so they would have been leaving soon, and what is also different
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as we are told by the pentagon is that it is lingering more than balloons have spent in the past hovering, and so that does not mean that it is able to gather more intelligence than say a chinese spy satellite, but it is a blatant attempt by the chinese, the u.s. believes to gather intelligence above a u.s. territory. >> and the chinese satellites are flying over or the u.s. every 90 minutes on orbit. something to watch. thank you, alex marquardt. we want to bring back molly ball and francesca chambers. and a meeting like this takes so much advance work, and given the tense relationship here, and it is not a cancellation, but a postponement, and so where does this leave things between the u.s. and china right now?
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>> well, as alexander was saying, that we don't have fully an account that is fully accountable about the chinese explanation that it was sen sh -- essentially a mistake and whether the government is making assessment, and since we don't have a full explanation from the state department, but i guess they want to have a clearer picture, and have it in full context so that a full conversation can have had by the secretary and not having it hanging overhead like a balloon
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estimated 55 million people are under the windchill alerts from montana to maine. >> already this morning temperatures are dropping rapidly. many major cities have already seen their highs for day, and that means only one way to go, and this is down. new york city topped out at 35 degrees earlier this morning and since dropped to 24 degrees and the temperatures across new england are also plummeting. athena jones is in boston. i am wondering, can you feel it from a couple of hours ago? >> hi, jim. i can. the temperatures have dropped 10, 12 degrees since we first started reporting early this morning. the feels-like is around 1 degrees. we are seeing negative 1, 2, 1, so it is quite low, and it is not even 11:00, so we know that the temperatures are going to continue to drop through the course of the day to the ing isle digits by night fall, and this is going to be lasting about 36 hours or so, and we are not talking of course about
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massachusetts, because there are 15 million people under some windchill or wind advisory, because it is not the low, low temperatures that can set records, but it is the windchills. here in boston, you could -- >> standby, athena, we are going right to president biden commenting on the jobs report. we will listen in. >> before i go to philadelphia, i want to comment on the strikingly good news that we received. next week i will report on the state of the union, but today, today, i want to report on the state of the union and the state of the economy is strong. we learned this morping that the economy has created 517,000 jobs just last month. more than half a million jobs in the month of january. in addition, we learned that we created half a million more jobs than we thought and the december
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jobs is updated, so that means that we have created 12 million jobs since i took office, and that means that we hhave create more jobs than any presidential term than any other term in two years, and this is the strongest two years of job growth in history than a long shot. and my dad used to say a job is more than a paycheck, but dignity and 12 million americans get up knowing that with the dignity and self-worth that has been missing, and we learned that the unemployment rate fell to 3.4%. that is the lowest in 54 years. in fact, the last time the unemployment rate was that low was may of 1969. think about that. and what's more, black and hispanic unemployment unemployment are near record lows. this matters. more working aged folks are coming into be the market with
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jobs than in a while, and that is more people looking than coming into the market, and more people are coming into the market and getting jobs, and a positive sign for the health of the economy going forward. as the job market is reaching historic high, inflation continues to come down. inflation has now fallen for six straight months. the gas prices are now down more than $1.50 since the peak, and food inflation is falling down. and take home pay is going up. the real wages are up, and the wages for lower income, and middle wage income is going up. and couple that with the economic growth last quarter, and here is where we stand. the strongest job growth in history, the lowest unemployment rate in 54 years, and manufacturing rebounding at a faster rate than the last 40 years and inflation is coming
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down, and real wages going up, but moderately going up, and not through the roof. the economy is growing at a solid clip. put simply, i would argue that the biden economic plan is work. for the past two years, we have heard a course of critics write off my economic plan, and they said it is not possible to grow it from the bottom up, and the middle-out, and we cannot manufacture in america, and we cannot make things in america anymore, and that somehow adding jobs was a bad thing or that the only way to slow down inflation was to destroy jobs. well, today's data makes crystal clear what i have known in my gut, these critics an cynics are wrong. so what is done by some is that the work is clear, plan is working because of the grit and resolve of the american worker, and we will be lowering the costs in families and lower
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prescription drugs and health care and because of the legislation, we will be rolling it out, and we will be seeing the shoveling around the country to rebuild the supply chains and manufacturing more here at home, and in communities across the country that are too easily written off for dead, we will not only see the jobs coming back, but a sense of self-worth and pride coming back. nothing worse than a major manufacturer leaving and shutdown and your kid getting out of high school and college and they say, mom, i have to move, because nothing here for me anymore, nothing here. i am intent of changing that in the heartland as well. that is how we build an america where we can all take pride and working families have good jobs and more breathing room. as the economy grows from the bottom-up and the middle-out my
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objective is trickle-down economics works for one group of americans and not for everybody. that is what it is all about. i am heading off to philadelphia, and if you want to ask me a question about the economy, but i am not going to answer a question about anything else. >> can you answer about secretary blinken -- >> are you taking blame for inflation. >> no, because it was like when i got here, man. remember what it was like, jobs were hemorrhaging, the inflation was rising, and we were not manufacturing a damn thing here, and we were in real difficulty, and this is why i don't. >> what about china -- >> and the -- well, jim, that is what i would call a victory lap taken by the president of the united states after a gang busters job
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report, and beating expectations more than three times over, and 517,000 jobs in january and unemployment at a 54-year low, and there you heard him definitively saying that he went with his gut, and the gut led him in the right direction so far with the biden plan, and he is taking no blame for inflation. >> and i am expecting that we can expect a similar message on jobs at the state of the union speech coming up, and he is saying that it is not his fault even though prices we should note ticked up more speedily after he took office. dana bash is here to comment on a number of things, but i wonder first, you will be covering state of the union speech, and something that'll be ammunition perhaps for the president as he gives this message to congress. >> of bianna, you nailed it as victory lap, and of course, he is going to be taking a victory
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lap with jobs numbers like this, and the fact that it is a historic low when it is coming to unemployment, and it is true that people want to make sure that they can get jobs, but the challenge for this administration has been over the past, you know, almost two years now not necessarily the fact that it is hard for people to get jobs, the challenge has been as we have been talking about the fact that it is hard for people to afford goods. that is why that question to him about inflation is so key. now, inflation has come down, and in a way to give breathing room to families who need the bay six like gasoline and like eggs and milk, but the question is doing to be whether or not the job numbers will send a signal to the fed that they might have to tick up interest rates which will change a lot of the very delicate dynamics of the economy right now that will
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affect and do affect americans in their everyday lives. it is not to take away from these job numbers, because they are a very big deal in covering campaigns for many, many years, i can tell you that on the campaign trail, everybody waits for the first friday of the month to see where the job number are, and how it will affect the political reality, and this is still the case, but there are still so many other factors that are affecting the economy. >> and perhaps, dana, it is not going to increase the effect of the soft landing of the ability to bring down the economy from a recession, and this is maybe not a recession with the unemployment rate as low as it is, but what i would highlight is the confidence that he was right going with the gut, and there were nay-sayers within his own property, and the top economists who said that his plan would spiral inflation out
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of control, and inflation is coming down, and the job market remains very hot, and obviously, a lot of the republican detractors, too. how do the republicans respond to this number? >> well, it is relevant to the debate and negotiation happening right now in washington about increasing the debt ceiling in order for america to pay its debts that have been incurred. and you saw kevin mccarthy, the new republican house speaker at the white house this week saying that we are not going to do anything with regard to that unless we cut spending, because the republican party has refound religion on the debt and on lowering spending than they did in the trump years when he was spending a lot of the taxpayers' money, and this is relevant to what is happening now, because he is saying, look, yeah, they did spend a lot of money in the first two years of the biden
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administration with the democrats in control of congress, and, you know, no regrets despite the argument that republicans are making, and continuing to make in these future or current negotiations. >> now on the other side of the ticket, and talking about the expanding side of the field with trump announcing, and nikki haley announcing, and so some folks are going to challenge trump the, and he is benefitting with a bigger field to split the vote of the republicans against him. >> absolutely. all you have to do is to look at 2016 to know that is very, very true. he ran away with it, but he ran away with it not with a big majority, but sometimes with the 30, 40%. that is because all of the other candidates were in the race for the republican nomination, and they split the vote.
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what is interesting about the faces that you have on the screen there is that nikki haley is going to announce, we expect and told later this month, and we have word that mike pence is planning to go to her home state of south carolina early next week to do an event there just maybe a couple of days before nikki haley makes the announcement, and that is very much an indicator that he is trying to send a signal that her move is not going to affect his move. >> wow. shot across the bow, politically. >> dana bash, thank you as always. >> you, too. >> coming up, a former colleague of alex murdaugh says that she confronted him about million missing from the law firm on the same day that his wife and son were killed. the jury has not heard that so
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i'm okay. the judge in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh is weighing whether his financial crimes should be allowed into evidence. murdaugh has been charged in several cases with 99 counts of various allegations of white collar theft and fraud. yesterday without the jury present the cfo of the former law firm testified that the same day that his wife and son were killed, she confronted him about
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$750,000 were missing from the firm. joining me now is ashley merchant, a criminal attorney, and great to have you on, and so is the positive motive enough for the case to allow it into evidence? >> yes, it is. that is what the state is arguing. they are arguing that they need this motive and to show the jury why they need to have this motive, because the jurors would not believe that a normal person would not just kill their wife and son, but the question is whether or not that is importance and how valuable it is to the state is outweighed by the prejudicial value, and so this is going to prejudice the jury.
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and so what the judge has to decide is whether or not that outweighs how much the state needs it. and once it comes in, is that really going to prove the motive. it is a stretch to me, that he would kill his family just to di have vert some attention from the financial crimes. >> and we hear that it should not be admitted into court, because according to the south carolina law, it cannot admit prior criminal misconduct, and so is that why the judge is considering that right now? >> yes, he is doing a weighing test, and deciding what weight to give each side, and what is fair. and he is going to be looking at whether or not his decision is going to be upheld on appeal. if he lets it in, and mr. murdaugh is convicted, the appeals could will decide that
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it could come in this front of the jury. >> and so if he allows it to come in, will the testimony from the former law clerk where he worked be allowed to testify about that testimony. >> yes, it will be live, and so it is going to be where you give the testimony to the judge ahead of time, and so then the state can call the witnesses live, and it is going to add a couple of weeks' time to the trial, and that is always difficult for the defense, because any time that the trial is going to take some time, it is hard, because it is going to make the want to compromise, and get home. >> well, as we speak, the trial is on going, so thank you for your time, ashley merchant. >> thank you. new jersey is mourning the loss of a councilwoman who was shot and killed in her car. eunice dunfer was shot and
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this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan and we do begin with breaking news. cnn has learned that secretary of state antony blinken's trip to china is off. this is after a chinese spy balloon is found over the united states. the balloon itself is huge. it is about the size of three buses. cnn tells us that president biden is against shooting it down as of now, because this is
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