after -- there we go. we're re-queueing it. now we can see with accuracy. incoming . it looks like that one did not make contact with the balloon, but it could be that there was more than one trajectory in the air, and it's just that we can only see the stream or the tail of one. but it does appear as though that object in the air is starting to descend, unless it's my eyes playing tricks on me. we're going to look at it again. we're all seeing this together for the first time. and you can see at least two tails. and then you can see -- okay,

now i'm being told that is actually a plane after the strike of a balloon and then the balloon then losing shape, going down. security analyst is back with us. juliette, maybe your eyeballs are more trained than mine. we can at least see, perhaps, with a tighter view it looked like that balloon was disintegrating, as we heard an eyewitness describe earlier. can you decipher what's going on here for me? i hear your doorbell. >> i'm sorry. so you've got the -- look, the f-22 or f-15, we don't know which ones yet, we'll get a debrief from the pentagon, from areas in the carolinas, the

missile would have been launched from them. so what you're seeing on the bottom side is the airplane, what we're seeing now. what you saw was the airplane, not the balloon. and i don't know if we have images of the direct hit. so the balloon is now -- so this is the important thing for people to remember. the balloon is balloon and cargo. we want the cargo. it's ours now. sorry, chinese, it's ours now. because we want to know what they have, what capabilities they had, what they may have picked up. i don't know if the cargo, which is the stuff that the balloon was holding, it was about three school buses big, i don't know if it survived. it looks like there's something solid. we'll find out. that's basically what we're seeing right now. and the airspace being closed for this long, maybe two things as we were reporting before. one is, of course, you've got

debris and everything that you're worried about, but if there is some sort of rescue mission of what may have survived this hit, because this is, as i said, important intelligence for us to know, you are not going to want airplane surveillance over it. so they might be protecting, actually, the water space and not the airspace, which is done often in these rescue missions. so we will see, but that's what i see right now. >> and as we continue to rerack it and play it again, sometimes you see a little flash, a reflection. so obviously perhaps several pieces involved here. aviation correspondent pete muntean back with us. also, he's a pilot and has great clarity on the kind of aircraft that may have been engaged here. pete, talk to me about the variety of aircraft or if it has been isolated and determined

which aircraft may have been used here. >> it seems likely this was the air force f-22 raptor used here. its a new generation of fighters with bases across the country, very likely out of langley air force base. this video to me has some very clear clues in it. what you're seeing in a couple different instances is the contrail of a jet flying by, created by the hot exhaust of the jet engine of the airplane meeting moisture in the air and then causing it to condense. so you can see from left to right there, that looks to me like a contrail of what is likely a fighter jet. and then you see it take a bit of a turn and you can see, also, just what looks to be a bit of exhaust there from the impact, and then likely some parts -- you can see a glint occasionally there, a little flash of light of what looks to be falling debris. of course the military will be

trying to track where this debris is, and we know from crash investigations of large aircraft, they can track the debris in real time via radar and see exactly where that goes. we also know, from reporting of some of my cohorts at cnn, that there are assets in the water standing by to assist with the recovery effort of this chinese spy balloon and the instrumentation below it, which will be really key here in how it was working. because we know it was the size of several school buses. so a few hundred feet, and that will be really, really telling, as the military tries to piece that back together. and then, also, figure out exactly what data or what that instrumentation was doing precisely. the department of defense has not exactly said what they thought it was doing. it wasn't totally clear. we do know, according to the faa, though, and i'll just point this out, lastly, that the large

restricted piece of air space that was put in place apparently for the shoot-down effort by the faa at the request of the department of defense, has now been extended until 4:45 on the east coast. very likely to keep airplanes and helicopters out of this area as they try to recover what was on this chinese spy balloon. >> okay, pete muntean, thank you so much. we're going to check back with you. jim sciutto is back with us. are you learning anything new from your sources, jim? >> i think we need to highlight that this is a grave moment in the relationship between these two superpowers here, an exchange of fire in hostility, right? this was a surveillance balloon sent to the u.s. over sensitive sites, and the u.s. president making a decision to fire, to destroy it and take it down. these are significant moments in that relationship and you really have to go back more than 20

years, i'm thinking of the collision mid-air between the u.s. spy plane and the chinese fighter jet which led to a long diplomatic dispute because there were people involved, pilots and flight crew held by china there for a number of days. this, thankfully, does not have deaths involved because this was an unmanned surveillance balloon. but you had u.s. fighter jets circumstance cling it and firing it and taking it down. it's a significant moment and we haven't seen this kind of moment between these two powers in some time. you can compare it to 22 some odd years ago, china is a much greater military power than it was then, and the tensions between the two countries more significant now than they were then. so it's a significant moment. the u.s. has a number of military options for how they might take this down, you could

have used a surface-to-air missile, perhaps a ship deployed on the surface. based on eyewitness accounts, having seen planes circling it prior and then the video that we're just looking at now, seeing what looks to be a missile trail from the air-to-air, an air-to-air missile, that's the weapons package that the pentagon presented the president with and that the president then chose to do. it's a decision that i know u.s. officials, defense department officials were taking very seriously over the last several days. there were a number of high level discussions. of particular concern in the immediate timeframe was concerns about shooting it down over occupied territory in the u.s. those pieces fall to the ground and that would have posed a danger to people on the ground and that's why they waited until

it went over the oecean. but they're not just thinking about the immediate effect, but the lasting impact in terms of the relationship and where it stands now today, as i mentioned earlier, a delayed visit by the secretary of state, which was already during tense times. now those times are far more tense. we'll have to be watching closely how they handle this going forward. >> jim, you started by using very powerful language, talking about this is a grave moment. so i wonder if you can help explain the kind of considerations that the u.s. was making on a military, on a diplomatic, on a geopolitical level. because we're talking about an action that is a hostile action, right, which is met by a potentially hostile endeavor. i mean, this was just not something that was thought about in a cavalier manner. but, instead, there were some

very serious considerations being made because this picture, this result, regardless of what kind of assets or intel is retrieved, this is the moment, these are the images that are searing about the u.s. military firing at, missiles used, low grade or high grade, of taking down a foreign property that is over u.s. land and sea. >> to your point, it's a hostile act met by a hostile act and that's how escalation happens in conflict. you can be certain right now that there are channels open between the u.s. side and the chinese side. i would expect that both the military and the diplomatic levels to get a handle on this, so it doesn't get worse. because the nature of escalation is if you have a hostile act met by a hostile act, you don't want another hostile act to create a cycle that is hard to unwind.

now, to be fair, this did not happen in minutes or hours. this balloon was floating over the u.s. for days. there were certainly communications prior, not to detail what u.s. action would be, but i'm sure the two sides were speaking to each other prior, and then this happened, perhaps, with some expectation. you did have the president giving a thumb's up when asked about this hours ago. so it doesn't come entirely out of the blue by any means. but these are the kinds of moments that the military takes very seriously, because of concerns about it getting worse. and, listen, keep in mind, just a couple of weeks ago you had a u.s. air force general warn his forces of the possibility of a war with china within two hours. i know that is an outlier, but there's concern about the possibility of war in the next several years, not necessarily two years. but that is how folks at senior levels of the u.s. military are speaking. so to have a hostile act met by

one is no small thing. >> i wonder, jim, if this also helps, i guess, respond to -- or is this, perhaps, a response to or a better explanation as to why the secretary of state would postpone the journey to china? i mean, this was not likely a decision made today. intel, military, they've been watching the trajectory and the path of this balloon for days now, and perhaps in anticipation of the jet stream or its maneuverability that it was soon to be over water. and does it perhaps help make for a better explanation as to why there was a suspension or postponement of the secretary of state's visit? >> it does, indeed. and i should note, to the point of communications prior, jennifer hasler reporting that

secretary blirnken made clear that the u.s. reserved the right to take whatever action we deemed appropriate. you can consider that a telegraphing of the possibility of hostile action to take down the surveillance balloon. so they were speaking prior. i would be surprised if the chinese wasn't preparing itself for such an action. that said, you lose a major military asset, even if it's one that you made the decision to float over the continental united states. it is something i'm sure the chinese are taking seriously right now. >> you wouldn't want to have the secretary of state overseas in china while a chinese asset is being taken down by u.s. military all simultaneously. thank you so much. i want to go back to the pentagon and oren lieberman. >> we have our first statement from the pentagon, official acknowledgment from the department of defense and a little more information about what went behind this action and what assets took part in it. in a statement of secretary of

defense lloyd austin, the pentagon said it was a u.s. fighter aircraft that successfully brought down the high altitude surveillance balloon. the balloon, which was being used by the prc, the people's republic of china n an attempt to surveil sites in the continental united states was brought down over u.s. territorial waters. president biden gave his author squagds to take down the balloon as soon as the mission could be accomplished without undue risk to american lives. after careful analysis, u.s. military commanders had determined downing the balloon over land posed an undue risk to people due to the size and altitude of the balloon and its surveillance payload. in accordance with the president's direction, the department of defense developed options to take down the balloon safely over our territorial waters, while closely monitoring its path and intelligence collection activities. interesting there that dod notes that president biden gave his approval on wednesday to shoot this down, so several days ago now, and then it was up to dod

to determine where and when was a safe location to do this. as we've reported over the course of the past several days, dod officials recommended against shooting it down over the continental united states because of the risk to people and places. and we had theorized and hypothesized that the place to do it is once it's out over the water, and that is exactly what dod did. they waited until it had blown out over the water, following the prevailing winds across much of the country, from montana, down across the middle of the country, north carolina as we tracked it with all people looking for the balloon, and then it was taken down just off the coast of south carolina. the fda putting in place the temporary flight restriction at the request of dod and then the interception by fighter jets in the video that we're looking at essentially right now of the downing of the balloon. >> it all makes perfect sense, doesn't it? oren, so, then, also, the retrieval of this intelligence debris, et cetera, is anything more being said about how the

u.s. military, whether it be by navy or coast guard, will be going about trying to retrieve any debris? >> no official information on that right now. but we do know from a defense official that navy and coast guard assets are on standby to participate in any recovery efforts. the payload itself, it has a long way to fall, 60,000 feet of falling at terminal velocity. it will do a lot of damage when it hits. but certainly the u.s. military and government will want to see whatever it is they can gain about chinese surveillance gathering technology. the pentagon had pointed out this had the ability to maneuver. it may have looked like a floating balloon, but the pentagon said it had the ability to maneuver and had the ability to loiter and it had surveillance capabilities. so this is an opportunity to see what can be recovered and what can be learned about that. i should also point out that the dod statement from defense

secretary loloyd austin also sad this was done in coordination from canada. it was over canada that this flew into montana earlier this week. >> thank you so much. juliette is back. there's the president right there. let's listen in. >> wednesday when i was briefed on the balloon, i ordered the pentagon to shoot it down on wednesday as soon as possible. they decided, without doing damage to anyone on the ground, they decided that the best time to do that was as it got over water within a 12-mile limit. they successfully took it down and i want to compliment our aviators who did it and we'll have more to report on this a little later. thank you. >> you were saying the recommendation was from your national security team. >> i told them to shoot it down. >> on wednesday? >> on wednesday. they said to me, let's wait until the safest play to do it. >> what does this mean for

relations with china? >> short and sweet. very curt and to the point there from the president of the united states. i told them to shoot it down. that order was on wednesday and it was per the recommendation of the department of defense to wait until that balloon was over water. and we just saw that it happened somewhere inside the last hour that a military jet was used there off the coast of north and south carolina, over u.s. waters, and it was taken down. it was shot down and now we understand that u.s. assets from the coast guard to the noveavy now in the water and they will be retrieving any debris to learn from it. arlette saenz at the white house. arlette, the president very clear there on the action. >> reporter: yeah, fred. president biden trying to make clear he was the one who did give this order, saying that he first asked his military team to take steps to shoot it down on

wednesday, but followed their recommendations to wait. we know that there have been concerns about taking down this balloon while it was over ground and the impact it could have for people on the ground. ultimately, they waited until it was over the water off the east coast to go ahead and take this balloon down. now, this all comes as the president really had been facing significant pressure not just to answer questions on this, but also to take action. he has been criticized from republicans who have been trying to paint him as weak throughout this entire process over the course of the past few days, since it was first revealed that this balloon had been flying over the united states. he had also faced some pressure from democrats. we've heard from people like senator john tester, the defense subcommittee appropriator, the head of that committee. he has said he wants to hold hearings about how exactly this situation all played out. the president trying to make clear today that he did, in

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lifted. our tom foreman is in washington for us to give us an idea of all that it took here off the south carolina coast. i mean, quite the orchestration of events in order to be able to report that that spy plane is now down. >> a lot of resources there, because there is something of great value here to the u.s. in items of piecing this altogether. it's right here, the part that was hanging up underneath this. about three school buses long, so about 90 feet, roughly. these balloons are capable of being hundreds, thousands of pounds. a military analyst said you want to know, one, the basic technology, how were they flying this thing, did they have maneuverability, anything along those lines, any other technology that might be involved. secondly, is there native information onboard here? for example, if it was taking photographs, if it was recording data as it went across the country, is that attached to

this hardware or was all of that streamed back to china? is this essentially an empty vessel? or do they have the capability of remotely wiping it? you get the hardware but no sense of what it really recorded. and the other part of this, of course, is how much of this survived. oren mentioned this a short time ago, the idea of terminal velocity. we know based on what the president said, that it's going to be somewhere between a line about here and shore because that's well within territorial waters. that also means it's only about 600, 700 feet deep, so it's in a recoverable area. oren mentioned terminal velocity. that refers to how fast something can fall before the atmosphere slows it down. a human being, terminal velocity is about 120 miles an hour. we don't know how much it was being slowed down or how fast it was falling or how much it will be damaged or has been damaged by striking the water.

but, in this environment, it would seem relatively favorable that they could get most of the pieces together. very different than 1986 when the "challenger" blew up. we covered 43% of it and years later we're still finding pieces. this is more likely a lot more compact. that's why they want to get ahold of it. can you figure out what it actually was doing along the way and technologically how it was doing it. >> tom foreman, thank you so much. also back with us now, john miller. let's talk more about the retrieval of the debris from this chinese spy balloon and how the retrieval is also incredibly important to securing national security in order for u.s. intel, military, et cetera, to learn what exactly was part of the payload, you know, what was allowing this balloon to take the trajectory that it did, and

what was its goal? >> you know, fred, when we talked a couple of hours ago, one of the things i was pointing out is people in the intelligence community and the military were saying, would everybody just calm down, you've been screaming to shoot it down for days. we have a plan and we have a mission. let's go chronologically. it crosses over the aleutian mountains, over canada, enters montana and is looking straight at critical military spaces. the chinese says it drifted off course. okay. but then a number of things started to happen. first of all, the u.s. government starts to track it, dod and the intelligence community are going to say, all right, let's see how it behaves, what does it do, where does it go, how is it controlled? is it really drifting through the wind or does it have navigation capabilities, so which the pentagon says yes. the second thing you want to know is what is it collecting and what is it doing with it? they're looking at that payload

to see what is it equipped with that we can see, what is it equipped with that we can't see, and how do we intercept that? if it's highly encrypted, they might not be able to intercept what it's intending back, assuming it's transmitting, but they could be able to jam that signal and make sure whatever they're sending isn't getting back. there are a number of opportunities and things they had to do along the way. as we now know, the president gave the order on wednesday, which is when it's safe and proper, take it out of the sky. but that fwbegins a whole new s of missions. they could blow it into a million pieces over the water, but what you want to do is hit the balloon, not the payload. you want it to come down as intact as possible, and you want to pre-dispose of those assets, have them in place, so that when it does come down you can recover it quickly, because this is the whole second part of your question, which is can we get

the equipment, can we look at what it is? we're going to recognize what it is. we use the same kinds of equipment on the same kinds of balloons. and then say, all right, what is the equipment, how is it protected and contained from any water damage or impact damage, and now the great question, which is, can we get inside it? are we able to download what it collected and look at it for ourselves, or are we able to just tell what it's capable of collecting? so this has been the menu of the week of things they've had to go through. now the new menu is opening up, which is let's pick up the pieces, let's figure out the capabilities and the intent. is it just photographic, then we pretty much know what it saw. is it photographic and signals? were they pulling up signals from different communications? is it photographic signals and radiation signatures? that's going to tell us a lot about the kinds of things they

were looking for. and look who did it. it was north com. northern command is in charge of protecting the continental united states from foreign threats. so they're the logical player here and they also are pretty knowledgeable, because north com uses the same kinds of balloons and the same kinds of surveillance equipment for counternarcotics work on the mexican border, for tracking vehicles at crossings. so this won't be too foreign to them. a lot of friends here, though. you've got noaa, the national weather service helping with win direction and the path, you've got nasa, you've got the nsa talking about the signals piece, and the nro, the national reconnoissance office, which actually makes these surveillance platforms for the united states. so many, many experts this week have been looking at this. >> right. so that coordination all week long, which determined that over water really is the best

opportunity to take it down safely. but as you say, really, unraveling the mystery is starting at the very beginning. at scare one all over again, after they try to ascertain what kind of debris, what they can learn from it. thank you so much. i want to bring in cedric leighton. talk to me further about this coordination that john was underscoring. this took a whole lot of agencies and assets and expertise in order to get to this point, but for today talk to me about the coordination of being able to, you know, fine-tune the plan and pinpoint this balloon in order to take it down so that it's not so destroyed that they are not going to be able to ascertain what it's makeup is. >> yeah, exactly, fredricka. as john was alluding to, this is really a choreographed ballet. when you think about how all these different pieces and parts

come together, you're looking at different air elements, you're looking at the naval elements, you're looking at the intelligence picture. all of that is being brought together. so when you look at this, the american people and really the people of the world get a chance to see how the united states conducts operations like this. there's a lot of planning that goes into this. when you look at the effects of an operation like this or the kinetic effects in an operation like, let's say, desert storm, you just see the blowing up of something and then you think that's it. but the fact of the matter is there is so much that goes into this and there's so much thought that you put into something of this type. so, you know, when you look at the pictures that we're seeing here from the myrtle beach area, you're seeing a bunch of different elements that are coming together. the aircraft that was used, we

don't know officially yet. it was probably, my guess would be an f-22 that was doing this. these are top of the line fighters, along with the f-35, in the american inventory. it probably came out of langley air force base. they could have shot it down either with an onboard cannon or with a missile like the amram missiles. but there is so much that goes into that before you actually take that first -- in this case, i believe they shot it in this situation. >> cedric, this is rare. i mean, help underscore this occasion, how it came to be, what this is symbolic of. >> well, this really symbolizes, on one level from the military

standpoint it symbolizes everything coming together. on the diplomatic front, you've got so many pieces, these kinds of operations are often the result of failure of diplomatic efforts. but from a military standpoint, what you're seeing, fredricka, is the success of all of the different pieces that the american taxpayer has been paying for. we're seeing all of that come together in a way that shows that we cannot only intercept something like this, which is really an unconventional target, and that we can bring it down and hopefully will be able to actually recover these pieces so that we can piece together from an intelligence standpoint exactly what the chinese were up to in this particular case. >> colonel cedric leighton, apologies for calling you cedric. i was trying to remember in my mind. it came to me.

colonel cedric leighton, thank you so much. juliet te kayyem back with me. we heard from the president himself who said he made this decision on wednesday, but all of us military advisers were saying, wait, wait, wait. and hearing all of that, i was listening and hearing your voice again where you said earlier, you know, patience. it really is about patience and making sure that everything comes together. so now expand on that, if you will, on the thought you had earlier, about you can't just be knee jerk about this. everybody had an idea about just take it down, shoot it down. but there are so many things to get into place first and assess. and you put it succinctly, it's about patience. >> yes, and clearly this is what president biden and the military showed. so let me just walk through the chronology of the week.

they probably have known about it for some period of time. wednesday the president does what's essentially a standing order. he asserts what he wants the end game to be, which is this thing is getting out of the sky the second that it is safe to do so. his military comes back and says, not exactly safe here in the homeland, which was a correct calculation, let's see what happens. so they just essentially are seeing what happens. what they find out between wednesday and saturday is that the chinese still have operational control of it and it appears as of last night when i was on, it appears that they're trying to get the thing toward water. so they know how this ends. and i cannot stress enough what an embarrassment this is for the chinese. i know we have people saying, oh, we should have taken it down immediately. this is an utter embarrassment for the chinese. because it goes to the ocean, and now our challenge is, where are we going to shoot it over the ocean. so the standing order is in

place. saturday the military decides it's not in international waters. some calls i got in between suggested -- or at least were confirming the debris is not in international waters. that means it's ours. >> secretary lloyd confirmed so, that it's in u.s. waters. go ahead. >> it's in u.s. waters. so we have no jurisdictional question about who owns it. and essentially this is now for us. so stage two was today, which is the shoot-down, and then stage three is now the debris and pickup for an ongoing mission. what i need to make clear is this is ongoing. so they are likely able to have put radar -- or they had radar on the debris. i'm seeing it in open source right now. that debris will be picked up by the navy or the coast guard. the coast guard is clearly going

to have a role on this. if anything comes ashore, this will be a coast guard and state and local mission. this will take a little while. as john was saying -- i'm sorry, as cedric was saying, you w want -- hopefully they got the balloon. it is going to take a while. this thing is up in the air twice as high as a jetliner, as the debris falls. as it falls, they are pinpointing it and then they have what's essentially the maritime mission now. the maritime mission now is to pick up what they can to determine what do the chinese now, what did they get, and we did this -- they did this with patience and without putting any civilian americans at risk. it was so -- i have to say, we were talking patience ends up being a strategy and it was used

perfectly here. and then the bigger issues that jim sciutto was talking about, u.s./china relations, which are going to have a lot of moments like this. this is a long-term challenge between the two countries. >> likely this makes an impact. >> exactly. >> this will make an impact on what's next between u.s. and china. juliette kayyem, we're going to leave it there. we'll have a short break. we might have you back on the other side of it, so hold tight. thank you. ere? his girlfriend just caught the bouquet so... he might need a little more help saving. for that engagement ring... the groom's parents. you think they're looking at photos of their handsome boy? they're not! she just saw how much they spent on ballroom dance classes... won't be needing those anymore. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop banking.

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that chinese spy balloon has been shot down by a u.s. military jet off the south carolina coast, just under two hours ago our natasha bertrand is learning more information from the pentagon on this operation that got the green light from the president as early as wednesday, but with

patience they waited until today to take it down. >> reporter: fredricka, we are getting new information literally just in right now from a senior defense official who tells reporters that the fighter jets that took off to take down this balloon were actually -- they took off from langley air force base, located in virginia, and it was a single missile that took down that balloon. interestingly, they added that the surveillance balloon is of value to the united states. they said that, quote, i would note that we took all necessary steps to keep the surveillance balloon from gathering information, it was of intelligence value to us. i cannot go into detail but we were able to study and scrutinize the balloon and its equipment, which has been valuable. that's a key statement from the pentagon there, essentially saying that this balloon is of intelligence value to the united states. now, that stands in direct contrast to what the chinese government had been saying, which is that this was just a

weather balloon and had no intelligence value. he went on to say that explanation lacked any credibility, the u.s. did not believe that. and the u.s. was able to determine what was inside that payload in that balloon and they know that it is of significant intelligence value to the united states. so it will be interesting to see when they examine that what more they can learn about what the chinese government was actually looking for when it launched this balloon, and of course what they were able to obtain while this balloon was over the u.s. territory over the last few days. >> natasha bertrand, thank you so much. i want to bring back aviation expert pete muntean. so, pete, a little bit more on the jet and the accuracy natasha was just telling us, one jet from langley air force base was able to fire at this balloon and take it down with incredible accuracy. help people understand what we're talking about with this

accuracy, with this balloon 60,000 feet up, the speed in which the jet would be going and then with one strike be able to pierce it, not destroy it, but pierce it enough for it to descend and intelligence gathering, hopefully, will be rich. >>, you know, what we're seeing here in this video really tells the story, especially combined, with all of those new details from natasha, that this was shot down by an air-to-air missile officially from the pentagon from a jet from langley air force base. this likely put some more predictions that this was going to be a mission by the f-22 raptor. there's a squadron of them based out of fort eustice in virginia. this is a fifth generation fighter. it's a replacement of the f-15 and f-16. you can see in the video the contrail, the hot exhaust meeting with the air, the moist

air up at altitude there. you can see that bend there. that looks to me like it's the jet. the other trail, the thinner one, looks like it's the air-to-air missile going into that balloon. so you can also see in some of this video that we have been getting from sources online what in essence amounts to a waiting game. these fighter pilots were circling this balloon like sharks until they could get away from the populated areas along the coast of north carolina and south carolina. president biden said he ordered the department of defense to shoot it down on wednesday, but the department of defense wanted to wait until much later when there would be no risk to folks on the ground. that looks like the envelope of the balloon, the top of the balloon deflated and falling down there. this was a pretty easy day, likely, for the aviators of this f-22. it is the perfect missile mount

to do this in the military arsenal. 65,000 feet is as high as the f-22 can go. we know this balloon was at 60,000 feet according to the pentagon. it is a very fast jet. it can go 2.25 mach, twice the speed of sound, 1,500 miles an hour. this balloon is hardly going that, maybe 60 or 80 miles an hour with the winds alostft at 60,000 feet. they just needed to wait, these fighter pilots, until the right moment when it got away from land and over the water off the coast of north carolina and south carolina. really interesting here that this is still over the territorial waters of the u.s. that ends about 12 nautical miles offshore. essentially it is ours and we get to keep it now. these fighter pilots had to wait until this was in the right spot.

you can see in other videos these fighter jets just drawing contrails until they could get the right moment. president biden commended these pilots. a commendable job this afternoon in the shoot-down of this chinese spy balloon. >> unbelievably impressive. pete, we have new video in. i want you to watch it with me. i'll be seeing it for the first time, just as i believe you will be, too. it gives another point of view on the actual hit and you're going to hear it as well, i'm told. let's take a listen and watch right now. >> oh, gosh. now is that the firing of that, you know, arsenal or is that the piercing of it, the contact made? what do you think? >> i have to guess that that is the impact.

>> okay. >> and what we're seeing is -- the video there, the visual is delayed. the speed of light is faster than the speed of sound. we're hearing the impact much later than when it actually happened. you can see some of the con trail there up there in the sky. that looks to me like the con trail of the missile, but then you can also see a little bit further to the right of the screen, kind of right in the center portion of the screen what looks to be the envelope of the balloon falling. in some of these other videos that we were able to see, you can see what looks to be the con trail of a jet there near the right side of the screen, the gutter, the roofing. what was so interesting to me in some of the other videos we were able to see is the debris of what appeared to be the instrument apparatus below the balloon falling, shredded into pieces, and falling, glimmering in the light down to the surface. and so what will be really interesting -- that's the balloon still intact before it was shot down. that's the full envelope.

that's the envelope as it was deflated, but the really important step -- we don't care so much about what is in the balloon. it is really so much about what is in the enstrumt tags that was dangling below it which we know was the size of a few buses, a few school bus sizes. >> the mechanics of it as well as the pay load of it. >> that's really critical. >> natasha had mentioned there's an acknowledgment from the u.s. military, the pentagon, that the pay load is of significant intelligence value. >> right. >> u.s. military, u.s. intelligence wants it to dissect, to understand. >> yeah. the fact that we will be able to track this, too. >> yeah. >> you know, the large swath of air space that was closed off here, of course there will be a lot of radar trained on the air there, not only from the fighters in the air but likely other military assets also in the air that carry radar on them and then also radar on the

ground. they will be able to see the parts as they sort of float through the wind there exactly where they go and crews on the ground will be able to scoop them up, pick them up and analyze them. a lot of clues here. it's not unlike a crash investigation. they will be able to find out all of these parts and essentially put them back together, put-back the pieces to the puzzle and that is where all the information lies. >> amazing, pete. okay. air force colonel cedric leighton, i know you were watching and heard it, too. so from your point of view, how do you dissect, analyze what we just experienced and saw and heard from that new vantage point? >> yeah, fredricka, this is quite an interesting video. when you're looking at it, you know, you see what appears to be the missile contrail so that could have been the possibility, as pete mentioned, side winder, the other possibility, sliekly more likely an amram missile

used by the f-22. you see that come together in a way where all of a sudden you hear the noise and it is a clear indication that there was impact and you see the payload at the bottom there coming down. that payload, like pete said, this is a very critical piece. what it reminds me of is what happened 22 years ago when we lost an ep-3 to china. ep-3 is a navy surveillance plane and the chinese brought it down using some unsafe ariel maneuvers. the u.s. navy crew and this is, of course, different because there are no personnel involved on the chinese side but the intelligence collection aspect of this is what's similar. so, you know, with that pentagon statement that this payload is of high intelligence value, i

think that's true and i think that's going to be really the most significant aspect of this. the but these flight crews did a tremendous job putting it together and as you can see there with the contrails there, the missile going after that target, a very hardle target for an aircraft to go after, that, you know, really gives you an idea of, you know, how complex this operation really was. >> thank you so much, colonel cedric leighton. hey, john miller, in 20 seconds or less, what did you hear in that statement from the pentagon? the payload is of significance intelligence value. >> what i heard, fred, was what we were just talking about a few minutes ago, which is you want that payload and you want to take it apart, put it back together, see what's inside, see if you can download it and as the colonel was talking about, when they shot our plane down in 2001, they took it all apart. they sent it back in boxes part by part.

it was a diplomatic traveil for us. we'll take a hard look and we'll send the pieces back, maybe we won't. >> julia kayam, you get the last 20 seconds. what's next here? we lost her. thank you so much. colonel cedric leighton and julia and john miller, pete muntean, jim sciutto, everybody. what an extraordinary sequence of events that we all witnessed, heard, and our eye witness who called in earlier, too, travis. this mysterious chinese spy balloon, it is down. it has been taken down by the u.s. military upon the orders of the president of the united states. that came on wednesday but u.s. military advisers said wait until today and that's what we just saw right off the coast of south carolina. we've got so much more to come on fredricka whitfield. thank you for joining me today. the news continues with jim

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