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long journey ends after the u.s. military shoots it down. . we'll look at the job lies ahead as crews work to recover the instruments carried by the balloon, china reacts with china adding an already strained relationship between washington and beijing. live in hong kong and the political fall-out democrats defend the president against republicans who argued biden waited too long. ♪. ♪. ♪. live from cnn center. this is cnn newsroom. with leila hurruck. >> u.s. military is savage operations are underway right now in shallow waters off the coast of south carolina, where a suspected chinese spy balloon crashed after shot down by a fighter jet on saturday. a reaction from the chinese government has been swift and angry. a foreign ministry statement

accused washington of overreacting to a civilian unmanned air ship and the chinese defense ministry warned it reserve theed the right to use, quote, necessary means to deal with similar situations but washington has been skeptical and wary of china's claims from the start. u.s. president joe biden said he gave the go ahead last wednesday to shoot down the balloon as soon as possible. the pentagon waited until out over the ocean to finally bring it down. senior white house official is pushing back on china's claim but balloon was for civilian use, that official incesting it was seeking to monitor sensitive military sites and adding a second balloon spotted over central and south america is also another chinese surveillance balloon, they said quote, both balloons also carry surveillance equipment not usually associated with standard

meteorological activities or civilian research. they're a prominent feature of both balloons, the white house affirmed that the president made the right call, president biden says he issued the order last wednesday to shoot down the balloon as soon as possible. >> on wednesday, when i was briefed on the balloon, i ordered the pentagon to shoot it down on wednesday as soon as possible, they decided without doing damage to anyone on the ground. they decided that the best time to do that was as it got over water outside within 12 mile limit. cnn oren lieberman explains what the u.s. plans to do with the balloon's remnants. >> what has been an effort to track this chinese surveillance balloon for days as it made its way across the united states and over the ocean is now a recovery

effort to bring up the wreckage of the chinese surveillance balloon and the payload it was carry from the ocean floor not all that deep according to the pentagon, a senior official said the wreckage landed in 47 feet of water r relatively shallow and there were navy and coast guard assets on-site to begin establishing a preliminary motor and savage vessel on its way to start bringing up the wreckage. it may be difficult to see what's left, it did fall from a height of 60,000 feet, 12 miles impacted the water may have done serious damage to the technology on board, that's what the pentagon and u.s. government. will figure out. what condition, what is savage he believe and what can you learn and glean about the state of chinese technology and what they put on the surveillance balloon, a senior defense official said it didn't just start now, over the course the last several day, the pentagon made an effort to make sure it

couldn't get as much information looking for they wouldn't detail what those efforts entail instead tried to flip the scrip, monitor, the balloon constantly and trying to learn what they could about it as it traversed the united states. in terms of what went into this, there were days of planning to figure out what was the best time to shoot it down. in fact, it was decided not shoot it down over the continental united states because of people and property. instead the decision was made over the water, the pentagon and northern command launched f22's from langley air force base as well as f 15 and tankers in the end it was a single f 22 that fired a single a 9 side winder a short range heat seeking missile that pierces the balloon bringing down the surveillance balloon as it made its way across the u.s., that's the military side the diplomatic side as well, the u.s. making it

very clear they found this unacceptable and considered a violation of u.s. air space and now would have seen the military's response >> senior ivan watson is standing by in hong kong with latest from there, china doubling down issuing strong words after the u.s. downed the balloon. >> that's right, beijing is saying that if the, essentially, if the u.s. fly as balloon over china it will probably shoot it down look at the statement coming from the defense defense ministry, the u.s. used force to attack our civilian unmanned air ship which is an obvious overreaction, we express solemn protest by this move and reserve the right to use necessary means to deal with similar situations. there has been a shift in the tone from beijing on friday evening, the chinese foreign ministry expressed regret saying that its air ship as it described it, used primarily for

research purposes had blown off course, over the u.s., and now, the chinese government. different ministries are protesting the fact that this u.s. fighter jet shot the balloon down. the damage on the diplomatic front has already been visible with the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken postponing a trip he was supposed to make this weekend to beijing over the balloon scandal, and calling the existence of this balloon over u.s. air space a violation of u.s. sovereignty and international law. chinese response has been hey, this is due to weather, out of our control, they have been communicating with their u.s. counter parts but clearly done damage to what was an effort that began in november between president biden and the chinese leader when they met

face-to-face at the g20 summit in bali to try to put a stop to the downward spiralling relations between the world's two largest economies, we'll have to see whether there can be efforts to revive diplomacy in the wake of this i would argue a growing crisis. >> how is this incident seen in the region? >> well, look, it is creating repercussions elsewhere. the canadian government came out over the weekend saying that this balloon had been seen in canadian air space, china's ambassador then. and now we're getting reports of a second object flying over central and latin america that looks remarkably similar to the balloon that was just shot down over the u.s. it was seen over the costa rica, according to coastry ka

officials and friday the columbia put out a statement saying this object was seen at an altitude above 55,000 feet roughly the same altitude which is the balloon seen over the u.s., that it was monitored and it was moving at a speed of 25 knots and then the columbiians followed it until it left columbiian air space, a u.s. official telling cnn they believe this also is as they put it a chinese surveillance balloon, we have put a question into the chinese government. asking whether or not this is, in fact, a chinese air ship as they put it, about the previous balloon seen over u.s. air space, and also, u.s. officials have said that they have also seen similar chinese as they put it surveillance balloons three times over u.s. air space during the trump administration and at least once over the u.s. earlier

during the biden administration. why has this sorry to do this why has this blown up this time? u.s. officials say they haven't seen it loitering over u.s. air space for such a duration of time in the past, and we don't know that ordinary citizens have been able to see this kind of balloon with their own eyes, with the naked eye and take pictures of it before and that's part of what's adding to the alarm here. >> reporting from hong kong, thanks so much, hong kong. >> mary sc alvo joins us from anchorage, alaska, balloon, we understand was first detected last saturday over alaska, it's now in the atlantic ocean somewhere after quite a journey. how long do we expect the savage operation to take? >> well, actually, the united states and several other countries are very experienced in these under water savage operations because of downed aircraft over, you know, the past and for many years and

other under water operations the will really depend upon how lucky they are at finding the payload package, the debris, if you will, the equipment or whatever fell from the balloon, and without what they call a pinker, many teams they're devices that help you locate, for example, black boxes on downed plane, here, they don't expect to find that, they will have to scour the ocean floor, many world nation are experienced in the water recovery operation >> once the parts are savaged will it be obvious whether investigators are dealing way spying contraption or weather will it be obvious right away. >> it should be obvious, and there's a big if here, that depends on how well the kidney survived the fall. people think water breaks your fall but literally from falling from that height, it's like hit

concrete. they will have the equipment but continue recover data from it because of exposure is to salt water or the impact, but yeah, the, you know, the united states and other countries that had to have experience in under water recovery of area, parts and black boxes and equipment are pretty good at downloading information and putting it back together because of investigations from prior aviation accidents >> this isn't the first time something like this happened i understand, other suspected spy balloons have transmitted arrows continental u.s. . >> that's right, they're reporting now and i think the public side can play a big role in what's happened this tile because now the government is saying this has been happening as long as fire or more years, there was one sighted over hawaii in february of 2022, just

a year ago, now the costa rica sighting, the columbia sighting, so it's difficult to find that with the story that it was just one balloon that escaped from china, i think that's part of problem, too many to believe the explanation. >> if it turns out to be a spying balloon, this still needs to be determined, why use a balloon for spying when you can use satellites? are they more effective because they're certainly not subtle. >> well, and the speculation in u.s. and other circles and other places is of course, they're searching for something satellites can't pick up. other kinds of detection. communication signals, radiation signatures, other kinds of things that the satellites continue possibly pick up. so this would be a different kind of sensing equipment most likely because if you're looking for a visual sighting obviously

technology is so great you can get pictures down to a few feet in some cases few inches, so the technology on a satellite if it's a visual sensing amazingly good. some people speculate they were looking to locate u.s. missile silos, probably not. i'm sure they know that, this would be other sensing equipment and the speculation most likely some kind of communication sensing, radiation, microwaves other things that you could not readily sense from a satellite. >> final thought from you, mary, could beijing ask to have the wreckage return? what's the protocol in these situations if there is a protocol? >> well, yes, that kind of thing is, that's very interesting question, that has happened in the past in the u.s. has been in similar situations where they have had equipment ships, planes, you name it returned, many, many years ago before many probably listening

were even born the u.s. had a spy plane shot down and forced the u.s. to have it returned, they could ask to have it returned, but when the shoe was on the other foot and when other countries, china, et cetera, got equipment from the united states, they didn't return it and certainly didn't return it until they saw what was on it and because it did traverse u.s. air space, they say you shot down a civilian aircraft, not exactly when you traverse the air space of other countries there are treaties in place that governor that you have to give voice, permission, et cetera, and we don't have those same treaties in place, with china, by the way that's right the same for all countries in the would recall, it did invade air space without permission and of course, the advisory that came too little, too late doesn't explain it so i think the u.s. will keep it. >> mary thank you so much, greatly appreciate you. and let's continue on our

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sign up for the 2-week challenge at metamucil.com. east coast. savage efforts are underway off the coast of south carolina after a u.s. fighter jet successfully shot the balloon down on saturday. china defense ministry lashed out after warning it reserved the right to crews necessary means to deal with similar situations. u.s. lawmakers meanwhile have been weighing in on this saga since it began with many republicans critical of the president's response. republican senator roger wicker wrote allowing a spy balloon

from the communist china to cross the entire united states before contesting its presence is a disastrous projection of weakness by the white house. low is a said joe biden was tested on the world stage and abusiness manually failed, some members of his own party thought you handled it right >> we're looking for alleys and friends cross the world as we try to figure out how to deal with the threat that china is increasingly posing. we don't want look like we're the shoot first ask questions later approach, i think the president handled this accurately. protected the interest of the u.s., in a position to gather that intelligence from the balloon, i think it was the right decision. >> it's very likely that there's a lot of very heavy equipment in this. so i think what you're doing the proper course of action was to mitigate against the surveillance taking place, the department of defense talked about doing that and capable of

doing that, they've got a lot of experience, once it gets into an area where it doesn't endanger americans you shoot it down collect it and learn what you possibly can. >> a south carolina man witnessed the moment the balloon was shot down near myrtle beach on saturday afternoon. local photographer travis said he saw what appeared to be a missile stroke, the balloon from the 15th floor of a hotel. here's more. >> i come out to get video and photos of it and didn't realize it was ever going to shoot it down until almost right before it happened, and you can see the rocket, whatever it was they shot from the plane, you could see it starting to separate from the plane and i was like, man, this is happening right now, as soon as it hit the balloon, you could hear a pop, i couldn't get it on video, i didn't catch it, but you just seen the balloon kind of explode and you know,

just popped and above it was like confetti, and the rest of it just collapsed and started floating down, i'm not sure how fast it went but it looked like it was falling slow honestly. >> former pakistani has died at the age of 79. according to a statement from pakistan's military he died after prolonged illness, he was in dubai where he lived several years in self imposed exile. he'll perhaps be best remembered for his complicated relationship that he had with the u.s. during the war on terror. what can you tell us about the legacy he leaves. >> 911 happened quite soon after

he come to bali in 1999, he was a powerful ally of dc allowed convertibly drone strikes to take place within the country which made him immensely unpopular with a lot of people in the northern areas of pakistan, he leaves behind a legacy which some say in pakistan enlightened mortgages, there was a lot of arts and culture that, he did received any in order to go off in the militants in the north of of this country, with that there was a memo wore published boy musharraf in which he told he had been told boy u.s. parties that unless pakistan aided the united states in their war on terror in the region, they would bomb pakistan into the stone age. that is why he decided to ally himself with the united states after 911.

there was a controversial period i mean he had a long reign as a military dictator, the hose the former prime minister he don't was ousted in that coup during this to him. the iconic leader of pakistan died boy assassination in 2007 and his son still blames him for her death. there has been -- there was an attempt by musharraf to come back to pakistan, he had treason charge against him, he left in 2016 and hadn't come back since, a complicated legacy many adore him, many do not. leila. >> how has the newsroom received in pakistan, sophia. >> well, the prime minister has send out a statement sharing his condolencing with musharraf's

family, the prominent opposition leader who had many opinions of his own with regard to m, you is, harraf has not made any statement yet, it's more of a muted, he died in dubai, there's questions about where his funeral will take place an islamic funeral has to take place within 24 hours after the person's passing, so there are questions raised about whether the funeral will take place in the middle east or whether that will happen in pakistan, when will his body come back? again, lots of people we have to understand who do door musharraf and his legacy but many do not, he leaves behind a bloody legacy there are concerns that there will be a push back to his funeral taking place in pakistan but those are questions that we're still waiting for answers to. >> sophia in islam bad thank

you. a recovery mission underway as the u.s. navy looks for debris from downed chinese spy balloon suspected spy balloon, we'll have a detailed report next. plus diplomatic fall-out from the balloon incident, a former u.s. defense official weighs in on the long-term impact this could have on u.s. china relations.

♪ ♪ h♪ welcome back to cnn newsroom, more now on our top story this hour, the u.s. shot down a suspected chinese spy

balloon over the atlantic ocean. witnesses captured the moment it was struck by a single missile from a fighter jet. it happened off the south carolina coast on saturday. a week after first detected over alaska, and days after the balloon gained public attention over montana. chinese officials deny it was spy balloon, condemning the u.s. for using force to bring it down >> divers from the u.s. navy are working to recover the balloon and its payload from the atlantic ocean, sources tell cnn it will then be teen to the fbi lab in quantico virginia for analysis, cnn tom foreman has more on the challenges ahead. >> this is the portion of the balloon investigators want to get their hands on the payload, central core what looked leak a couple solar rays on either side. when balloon was destroyed, you could clearly see it falling away below. now, if this had the mass of a human like a sky diver, it might

be falling at 100, 150 miles an hour, something like that, if it had the mass of a couple of cars, it's velocity might have been more like 500 miles an hour or up, what that means is when it got to this area just off member, the water would be essentially like concrete. it would hit it with tremendous force and be absolutely misshapent broken up by the impact. what does that mean? it means when they get settled out there, 47 feet down be that's a good workable depth they have to look at this, figure out how many pieces, where they are, figure out if some is buried down below and up with a list of priorities, what do they want to bring up first? how do they want to bring it up to protect all of this as much as they can, and how long it will taking these operations typically are longer than most expect even though they be this could be pretty fast.

think of it this way like an under water crime scene now and have to protect their evidence best they can if they want to learn all they can about the balloon. >> take you no singapore, to andrew thompson a former u.s. department of defense official who focused on china, taiwan and mongolia, currently a visiting senior research fellow at the national university of singapore, this very public diplomatic breakdown how damaging has this been and what do you think the long-term impact will be? >> i think the impact is definitely not good. but it is limited in a way. it's not a sustained crisis. the balloon has been downed, so it actually has an end. and that opens the door for discussions and the to sides to move ahead and it's important to remember this isn't the first crisis in the relationship, and it's not going to be the last

one. so it under scores the deep levels of distrust, the u.s. doesn't believe what chosen says, but beijing has a long history of not believing what the u.s. says either, neither side has credible with the other, that's the bigger longer problem with relationship. >> what we understand this isn't the first time something like this happened is this incident isolated or confined to the u.s. or do similar incidents occur in the region where you are? >> oh, yes, these balloons are being spotted in other places, they apparently happened in india this left china to head eastward towards the united states approaching from the west. probably passed over japan and possibly south korea as well, certainly a major impact on china's bilateral relations with more than just the united states, i think here in asia countries are particularly

concerned about sovereignty, a lot of discussion i think in washington right now is over whether it was harming u.s. security, whether it was dangerous, whether the president should have moved faster, slower or but at the end of the day, in asia the real concern is about sovereignty and violation of air space which is the major concern. i think that reflects a different culture in the u.s. in terms of strategic out look, so i think china has got a real problem on its hands and it's going to have to manage its relations with its neighbors because they're now acutely aware of this violation of their own sovereignty >> this comes as the u.s. is strengthening military ties to counter china, how is this playing out where you are in terms of regional powers? are they worried about this diplomatic crisis between the u.s. and china. >> i think there's deep concern

about heightened competition between the u.s. and china, the refrain is countries don't want to be forced to choose sides, they don't want to be in one camp or the other, they want to be able to have autonomy, economic relations with china, security relations with the u.s. what they're telling both beijing and washington is give them space. they want to benefit from the relationship. what they're also doing is hedging, hedging against u.s. policies that could shift or change with different administrations, and they're hedging against china being aggressive or edge monic, so looking for economic and security benefits from both parties so they can retain their autonomy. >> let's get the final thought, united states and china have a rocky diplomatic history but as the world's two top economic powers, are they doomed to each other you know, in other words, they have to engage, whether

they like it or not. >> they have to engage and i think both sides realize that, soccer blinken trip postponed is unfortunate because the objective is to engage but the question is to engage to what end? the biden administration i think set up a fairly low bar and low objectives for the relationship that they're looking to prevent the relationship from spiralling into conflict or outright confrontation. so they're trying to achieve what they call guardrails, they're trying to create stability in the relationship and ultimately find the floor. we're not there yet, clearly. and i think the relationship is going to get worse before it gets better. we're looking at some politically sensitive periods coming up. you have the two congress meetings in clean in march, the national people's congress and people's consultative congress,

you'll also have the potential flash point when speaker mccarthy travels to taiwan possibly in april, and that will be another hurdle the two countries will have to overcome. >> drew thompson joining us from singapore, thank you. >> my pleasure. the northeastern u.s. is frying out from a deep freeze that brought bone chilling. they're largely ended. coldest place during the arctic blast was at the mount, they recorded a new record of minus 108 degrees fahrenheit, while temperatures are expected to rebound five to ten degrees above normal in the coming hours but saturday boston dropped to a low temperature of minus ten degrees fahrenheit, that's minus

23 degrees celsius. and parts of new york city hit five degrees fahrenheit on saturday as cnn's gloria pass 19 no reports, the brutal cold forcing many to stay home and off the streets. >> reporter: record low temperatures across the region, but here in new york city, right outside of central park, people have been doing what they do best here in new york, they have been braving the elements all day i've been speaking with tourists in new yorkers who are unphased by the cold temperatures, all day, i've been watching my friend here who is running this hot dog cart here, he had a hard time this morning trying to get it set up because his generator had actually frozen, the oil and gas inside of it he had a hard time getting it set up and he told me that business is a little bit slow today. right? not so good. not many people out here in these cold temperatures and just take a look.

this bottle of water frozen solid. it has been frozen all day. that should give you an idea of just how cold it is here, but as i said new yorkers, those who are visiting for the most part taking it in stride out for a jog, walking the dog and just enjoying the weather. >> just ran around the park. >> just ran around the park >> yes. >> 12 degrees? >> it's not bad when the wind is not blowing, feels refreshing. >> a lot of people my god it's fashionable but also functioning the hat make sure the face is warm, head and shoes because it's like new york and there's gloves and all these other stuff, so yeah. >> reporter: i also spoke to a man who was visiting new york city from chicago he told me this is nothing he was perfectly comfortable because he was dressed for the elements that is one of the most important things if you are going to go outside in these very cold temperatures

dress appropriately ware layers and if you don't need to it's probably best to stay home. gloria pass mino, in new york, cnn >> evacuation orders are in effect after a train derailed in ohio near the pennsylvania border. it sparked a massive fire and concerns about air quality the ntsb says around 20 cars were carrying a hazardous material ten of which went off the rails. they say the cars were carrying a chemical which has been linked to cancer. officials say though some of it was released in the environment, they have not detected any harmful levels in air. cause of the derailment is still not clear, no one was injured in accident. ukraine's second largest city takes russian missile fire as heavy weapons from the west head ukraine's way. those stories straight ahead. ♪. ♪. ♪. and done.

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. the u.s. military right now is working to savage the suspected chinese spy balloon after it was shot down over the atlantic. president biden gave the go ahead to shoot it down several days ago and the pentagon waited until it was out over water on saturday to bring it safely down. china accuses the u.s. of shooting down a quote, civilian unmanned air ship and the chinese defense ministry warned it reserves the right to use necessary means to deal with a similar situation. democratic according to man is the ranking member of the new china select committee in the u.s. house of representatives, he said the balloon incident is a stark reminder of china's growing determination to challenge the u.s. on the global

stage, here he is on cnn earlier. >> i think that it just reminds us of the threats posed by the chinese communist party, basically we know that the military technological national scour the threat and of course, this particular balloon the balloon reminded us that these threats exist, that the chinese communist party is aggressive and unfortunately they're committing surveillance in violence of our national sovereignty not to mention violations of so many neighbors including taiwan and others. we're going to find out very soon the nature of this spy balloon we'll know the who, what, when, where and how, hopefully related to that balloon once we savage the technology but at the end of the day i think that probably there were actors within the chinese

communist party who continued with their aggressive surveillance, and it's not even clear whether the left and right hands knew what they were doing in terms of the chinese foreign ministry and others knowing about this, of course, if they did, it would real question the sincerity of the diplomatic overventures, chairman xi would -- we would have to question how eager he is to solve our diplomatic issues, and to do so in a responsible way. i particularly think that the chinese will have some explaining to do and they will have to own up to it, but regardless it doesn't decrease tensions, if anything, it just keeps them at the state they are at and maybe worsens them but for sake of all of us, we're going to continue to undercover the facts behind the c cp's threats to us on the committee,

counter them and hopefully come back another day to diplomatically resolve our disputes with the ccp even as we work with our friend and allies and partners in the region on our collective mutual defense. >> ukraine says a search and rescue operation is underway after russian missile strikes on the city of kharkiv. officials say to missiles hit the city on sunday leaving at least three people wounded. the strike reportedly caused a fire at a residential building earlier, ukraine's president warned the grueling war against russia is not getting any easier. >> over the 346 days of this war i often said the situation at the front is tough and that the situation is getting tougher, now it is such a time again the

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. pope francis is preparing for his departure from south sudan, he just celebrated mass in the capitol juba after a farewell ceremony. he heads back to rome on saturday. pope met with some of south sudan's millions of internally displaced possibly as he's done throughout the trip. he called for a rejection of violence and all collect. the pontiff and two other religious leaders in the country with him said a special blessing for south sudan's children and the pope is accompanied by the heads of an lic, an church and church of scotland representing christian denominations to which most south sudaneses belong. >> john allen senior vatican analyst and joins us live from

rome. how does visit go? >> hi there, well, i mean, in terms of whether pope francis achieved what he set out to achieve, that is, promoting peace, reconciliation and healing from one of the most war torn countries on the planet, that we don't know. what we can say is that pope drew large and is that you can't crowds everywhere he went, the country's political leadership the faction in power and the opposition went out of their way to roll out a red carpet for the pope, and most sudaneses on ground said the visit left them with greater hope than they had before that something positive might happen. >> put this in perspective in terms of the church's role what role does it play in people's lives in south sudan and what kind of influence does it have? >> well, south sudan is one of those sort of corners on the map where the catholic church is

extraordinarily consequential, during the independence movement which led to independence in 2011, catholic radio was basically the communications network of the independence movement, of course, civil war erupted two years later in 2013, the road map for a peace deal signed in 2018 was signed in rome under the i gis of a catholic organization, some 2/3rds of the population in south sudan is catholic, so the pope almost uniquely in south sudan can mobilize great deal of social and political capital and that is why there is such a hopeful atmosphere that maybe this visit will mark a turning of the page. >> thank you so much, greatly appreciate it. that wraps up this hour of cnn newsroom, i'm leila hurruck. kim bruner continues after a

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