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watching us here in the united states, canada, and all around the world. i'm kim brunhuber. ahead on "cnn newsroom," recovery efforts are underway after the u.s. military shot down a suspected spy balloon over the atlantic ocean. meanwhile beijing is warning it will use necessary steps in similar situations. could this push the u.s. toward a cold war with china or will both sides find a diplomatic solution? after days of suspected spying over the u.s. mainland, a chinese balloon was abruptly shot out of the sky on saturday by a u.s. fighter jet. the balloon was so high up when it was destroyed, the sound of the blast took several seconds to reach the ground. listen to this.
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and the shoot-down ended days of concern and speculation about the balloon's purpose. chinese insist it was a balloon. the u.s. is confident it was conducting a survey over the ocean and the u.s. issued a fighter jet with heat-seeking missile to destroy it. the debris landed in water that's about 47 feet deep or 14 meters. anything recovered will be taken to the fbi lab in quantico, virginia. fbi director bob baird, take a listen to this. >> they're provoking they're
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supporting russia and ukraine eco economically, and the spying is a threat. they're stealing our property. silicon valley as well, and we have to push back. >> president biden says he approved the plan to shoot down the chinese balloon earlier in the week. cnn's arlette saenz has details from the white house. >> president biden told top military leaders on wednesday to shoot down the chinese balloon transiting over the u.s. as soon as possible. the president heard advice from military leaders who warned that shooting anything down over land, over ground, could pose a risk to american lives, so ultimately the president heeded their advice and waited to have this balloon shot down until it was over the waters on saturday afternoon. president biden was briefed on those final plans friday evening and ultimately defense secretary
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lloyd -- on air force one from syracuse, new york, to maryland, and was on the phone with his top officials as this operation was underway. here's what he had to tell reporters about the decision given. >> i ordered the pentagon to shoot it down on wednesday as soon as possible. they decided without doing damage to anyone on the ground, they decided that the best time to do that was when it got over water within a 112-mile limit. they successfully took it down. i want to compliment our aviators on doing it. and we'll have more. >> n the future. >> what was your recommendation? >> i told them to do it on wednesday.
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>> reporter: on wednesday. >> they told me to wait for the safest place to do it. >> reporter: republicans were quick to criticize the president for not taking it down sooner. they said it's a sign of weakness. the white house pushed back saying this was a responsible action for the president to take. he was trying to save american lives. there are lawmakers on both sides of the aisle calling for briefings and hearings in this matter. the so-called gang of eight will receive official information from the president next week. arlette saenz, cnn, the white house. >> and more reaction is coming in from u.s. lawmakers with members of the armed services committee weighing in along party lines. here's house democrat adam smith. >> we're looking for allies and friends across the world as we try to figure out how to deal with the threat that china is
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increasingly posing. we don't want to look like we're the shoot-first-ask-questions-later approach. i think the president handled this correctly. he protected the u.s. it was in order to gather intelligence from the balloon. i think it was the right decision. >> republicans disagree. a senator say, quote, allowing a chinese balloon to travel across the entire continental u.s. before discontesting its presen is a disastrous projection of weakness by the white house. and what damage to our national security occurred from this decision? cnn's ivan watson is standing by in hong kong with more on the reaction from beijing. ivan, china says the u.s. is overreacting after bringing down that balloon, so take us to the reaction from beijing. >> reporter: sure. not only saying the u.s. is
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overreacting but potentially threatening to shut down any u.s. balloon that might go over any chinese airspace. look at this. the u.s. used force to attack our unmanned airship which is an obvious overreaction. we express solemn protest against this move by the u.s. side and reserve the right to use necessary means to deal with similar situations. the foreign ministry of china has also lodged a protest about the shoot-down of this balloon, though, on friday the foreign ministry expressed regret saying that it was basically a civilian weather balloon that had blown off course and said it was maintaining channels of communication with washington to figure out how to deal with this. now, of course, one of the casualties of this blalloon scandal is the secretary of state antony blinken was supposed to be traveling to
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beijing this weekend. that visit was postponed as washington has accused china of violating international airspace. we'll have to see where this goes from here and hear perhaps what the pentagon and other security officials in the u.s. say if and when they're able to gather debris from the balloon to say more about whether it fits with the chinese narrative that it was just a weather balloon the size of three buses or as the u.s. argues, this was some kind of surveillance balloon. >> in the meantime, ivan, we haven't mentioned. this there's a second balloon as well. what more are we learning about that one? >> reporter: sure. a second object described as similar to a balloon has been detected over central and south america. the costa reeken aviation authorities say they detected
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something on thursday and that it then moved out of their airspace and it was, quote, not a balloon that originated from costa rica. then columbia put out a statement saying they detected an joect flying at an altitude above 55,000 feerkts which is sim s similar to the balloon flying over the united states. they followed it. it did not pose a national security threat and it left columbian airspace. they're trying to figure out where exactly this came from. there have been images from latin america of this object and it looks similar to the giant balloon flying over the u.s. cnn has reached out to beijing for comment on it. we haven't heard back yet. there's a lot of questions.
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if this, too, is a chinese balloon, why are these things flying around the world over other countries. the biden administration is saying at least three balloons flew over the u.s. during the trump administration and once earlier during the biden administration. kim. >> we'll keep following this story. and joining me now to discuss this is john, a professor and author of "the true life spy story: agents of sub investigation. the fate of john t. downing and the covert war over china." thanks for being with us. china is sticking to its story that it's a commercial balloon, fired ahead of the national weather service. what do you make of the response? >> with the fact wes have so
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far, it's strange to believe torsion buy the chinese story. as you mentioned there are other balloons popping up. the whole question of why china has not been forthcoming with canada, with the united states, with other governments in the americas is about what these balloons are doing and really casts a lot of doubt on their claim that it's for weather. hopefully something will come out of the debris and that would allow to government to find smoking-gun evidence. i would advise them to stick to their story and insist to the bitter end that this is innocent. so i think we're going to be stuck with two narratives, which is off an problem in u.s./china relations. >> how damaging is this to china's reputation, maybe more specifically to president xi at this, the start of his third
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term? >> well, i think there's no question it's an embarrassment, particularly with the timing that secretary antony blinken was on his way to beijing. that's not a trip the americans were dying to vchlt that was president xi and president biden who wanted to make it happen. it doesn't look good for xi. if we look out a little bit, he's having a very, very rough start to his new term. he started five more years as the lead over the country. he had the protests in november, had the covid policy reversal and a spike in cases and a lot of discontent, and now he's got this diplomatic fiasco. i think at a minimum we can say it's a fiasco and an embarrassment for china. >> we heard some not so veiled threats from china. what do you expect from them? do you expect them to take any
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action against any american assets? >> you know, the other hint in the statements had to do with the companies involved. that could be interesting to see if, you know, china claims they want compensation from the united states based on the company. i mean, it would be great to get full disclosure on those companies and maybe we can learn more from them. i don't know how much they want to actually divulge about this program. i read that part of the statement as a hint to the potential next steps. as far as doing the next thing, of course. we would assume that china would, you know, blow up a u.s. spy balloon that was floating over its country, whether it did it over the land or overseas. so i don't really see that as a new threat. not really surprising that the u.s. responded this way. i would expect the prc to do the same. >> let's put this in context then. this isn't the first time a high-profile spying incident had
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threatened the relationship between the u.s. and china. so where does this rank, do you think? >> well, you know, for students of the relationship, i think the most recent incident that comes to mind about 20 years ago already now in 2001 there was a spy plane incident, and now this involved a u.s. naval surveillance aircraft that was flying along china's coast, was intercepted by chinese jets, forced down. one of the chinese jets crashed, and so there was loss of life in this case, and it had to do with an emergency landing on an island. there was a whole diplomatic fiasco. the roles were sort of reversed then. it was a u.s. spy plane. they had to negotiate an apology and release of the crew and the plane etc. i think about that incident. if you think about that, it underscores how the relationship
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between the u.s. and china has changed in the 21st entry. now the u.s. has to deal with china's spying capabilities, technological capabilities. that's probably the historical marker i would go back to. there are many more, but you can read my book for the cold war history of covert relations. >> listen, i really appreciate your insights on this. john delury, thanks so much. >> thanks, kim. the northeastern u.s. is starting to thaw out from the arctic blast that brought record-breaking low windchills. we'll have details when we come back. and pope francis returns after meeting displaced people in south sudan. we'll have the very latest. stay with us. and we know 8080% of couples sleep too hot or too cold. introducing the new sleep number climate36360 smart bed. the only smart bed in the world that actctively cools, warms,
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on saturday afternoon a fighter jet fired a single missile that brought it down. it drifted across the country for several days, even passing several military bases. it underscores the heightened tensions between the u.s. and china. >> we're seemingly in sort of a cold war with the chinese right now and a lot to be worried about with their military aggression, surveillance like this, everything from tiktok to the, you know, human rights violations we're all aware of, but we need to address these issues, reminding ourselves that these two governments' economies are incredibly intertwined. >> now, for their part, chinese officials deny it was a spy balloon and they're condemning the u.s. for using force to bring it down. the suspected spy balloon shot down off the carolinas wasn't the only one in the hemisphere. the pentagon said a second balloon was flying over latin
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america. the sightings were confirmed and told cnn it didn't originate in costa rica and has now disappeared. columbia said the balloon spotted in their airspace was at an altitude above 55,000 square feet and is working with other countries to determine the balloon's origin. the balloon has since left the airspace. >> reporter: there were reports of sightings of a second balloon in at least two leighton american countries looking a lot like the chinese surveillance balloon shot down saturday after flying over the united states. cnn is aware of at least a half a dozen eyewitnesses in latin america who have reported seeing it and sharing images on social media. an airborne object similar to the chinese surveillance balloon seen over the united states was spotted over columbia.
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as this video shared with cnn shows, it was around friday local time. columbian media have also reported sightings of a balloon flying at about 70,000 feet over the south american country's airspace, citing the columbian military. we've seen report as balloon has been posted over costa rica. a lawyer posted a video of the balloon on twitter saying the same type of balloon spotted in the u.s. was visible all day in the costa rican sky. he confirmed to cnn he filmed the wide balloon flying overhead on thursday. on friday the pentagon confirmed sightings of a balloon over latin america and said it was another chinese surveillance balloon. civil aviation authorities in costa rica confirmed the sightings but not the origin of the flying object.
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cnn has been able to confirm these objects are chinese balloons. let's get the sum of today's other top stories. the arctic blast that gripped the northeastern u.s. for a few days is beginning to taper off. the windchill alerts mostly ended as the gusting winds die down. temperatures are expected to rebound to about 5 to 10 degrees above normal in the coming hours. the coldest place was at the mount washington facility in. >> announcer:. hay recorded my news 108 degrees fahrenheit. that's almost 80 degrees celsius. on saturday boston topped a temperature of my nice 40 degrees fahrenheit. they declared an emergency. here's how some dealt with the cold. >> working outside is awful. >> how many layers do you have
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on? >> with this i have a scarf, a hoodie, and i've got another -- a t-shirt as a base layer. and under neath all that i have these electric heating pads. >> parts of new york city hit 5 degrees fahrenheit on saturday. the brutal cold force md to stay home and off the streets. >> reporter: record-low temperatures across the region, but here in new york city right outside of central park people have been doing what they do best here in new york. they have been braving the elements all day. i have been speaking with tourists and new yorkers who have been unfazed by the temperatures. all day i have been watching my friend gamal running this hot dog cart here. he had a hard time this morning getting it set up because his generator had frozen, the oil and the gas inside of it. he had a hard time getting it
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set up. he told me business is a little bit slow today, right? not so good? not many people out here in these cold temperatures. just take a look. this bottle of water, frozen solid. it has been frozen all day. that should give you an idea of you how cold it is here. as i said, new yorkers, those who are visiting for the most part taking it in stride, walking the dog and just enjoying the weather. >> just ran around the park. >> just ran around the park. it's 12 degrees. >> it's not bad when the wind's not blowing. it feels good. it feels really refreshing. >> reporter: a lot of people see her and it's like fashionable. but it's also function to make sure her head stays warm and the shoes because it's like new york. there's glass and all this other stuff, so, yeah. >> reporter: i also spoke to a man who was visiting new york
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city from chicago. he told me this was nothing. he was perfectly comfortable because he was dressed for the elements. that's one of the most important things. if you're going to go outside in these very cold temperatures, wear your layers, and if you don't need to, it's probably best to stay home. i'm gloria pazmino in new york, cnn. evacuation orders are in effect after a train derailed in ohio near the pennsylvania border. it sparked a fire and raised enormous concerns about air quality. 20 cars were carrying a hazardous material, ten of which went off the rate. they were carried the chemical vinyl chloride, which is linked to cancer. they haven't detected any harmful levels in the air. the cause still isn't clear, and no one was injured in the incident. many people watched as u.s. jets shot down that suspected chinese spy balloon. >> they just shot it.
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off the u.s. east coast. salvage efforts are underway in southwest north carolina after we shot down the balloon saturday saying they would use necessary means to deal with similar situations. the intrusion has further soured relations between beijing and washington at a time when they were already badly strained. now, there's concern it may unravel months of efforts to resolve numerous disputes with china, including taiwan. here's what cnn national security expert david singer had to say earlier on cnn. >> it shows you how difficult it would be to de-escalate a taiwan crisis if china moved again the way it did last summer when nancy pelosi visited and the way it undoubtedly will move to choke off part of access to taiwan waterways if you see the
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new speaker of the house go visit as he has said that he will be doing. so i think what it tells you is even things that should be diffused pretty quickly, we're having a hard time communicating about it. imagine in the past couple of days a different scenario in which china said this was an accident, it should have never gone over there, let's help you bring this thing down so we can end it peacefully and everybody can understand it. that's not what had happened. that's what should have happened if you had much communication going on between china and the united states. >> several people witnessed the balloon being shot down at myrtle beach on saturday afternoon. here's what one resident had to say. >> we came here in the parking lot and saw the balloon up ahead -- up high, and then we probably watched it, i don't know, maybe
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about five minutes and started seeing some jet trails coming from the west, and one in particular seemed like it was coming fast and coming straight toward the balloon, and from there suddenly we saw something take off from the jet and knew it was a missile and you could see the explosion. didn't hear anything, but saw the explosion of the balloon, and it seemed like it was falling apart and starting to come down. it's stretched out into the ocean. hard to see, but it's still out there. >> it's like one of these you see here. it was an f-22 fighter jet from langley air force base in virginia and aimed eight h with a 9x missile. they had to make sure american civilian air traffic stayed safely away from the area. that required taking some steps
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that haven't been seen in a long time. >> reporter: the federal aviation administration has now ended its temporary flight restriction, the restricted airspace it put in place because apparently of this shoot-down of this chinese spy balloon as it wafted over if coast of the carolinas. this huge piece of restricted airspace, twice the size of the state of massachusetts, five times the size of the restricted airspace that's been in place over 9/11 since washington, dc, what's very telling about this that took place around 1:00 p.m. on saturday is it was up to 60,000 feet, which the pentagon said was the altitude this balloon was floating at. it's very critical because the faa wanted to clear out the airspace below so it would not be a hazard to airliners that
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fly at half that height. they put this in place at three airports along the coast. those airports were paralyzed for about an hour as the shoot-down took place. it wasn't long after that all of these restrictions were lifted, although, this will likely go down in history as one of the largest pieces of restricted airspace ever. we have never seen something like this put into place, and the faa says it was all at the request of the pentagon. pete muntean, pentagon, cnn, washington. united states supreme court was rocked to its core last year when someone leaked a draft copy of a court opinion overturning the landmark roe versus wade decision. now sources are telling cnn about other previously reported unsecured lapses by justices and court employees. we have the exclusive report. >> reporter: cnn has learned
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that long before the leak of that draft opinion, security protocols when it came to documents at the supreme court were very lax. now, that could have led to the leak or at the very least, it hindered the investigation into the league. for example, several of the justices over the years, sometimes that i would put sensitive information into personal emails. information belonged on secure servers, and the person who told me this wasn't suggesting that it meant a justice had leaked a draft copy of an opinion but at the very least it showed that the justices themselves weren't setting a good example to the chambers, to their employees about how to deal with sensitive documents. another issue concerned so-called burn bags. these are bags where you put sensitive information thapd're later burned or shredded. at the supreme court, they're taking down to the basement, put in a locked bin, and later picked up by a shredding company. the source tells me the problem with this is there's no uniform
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policy in chambers on how to deal with it. sometimes they would be stapled closed, sometimes they would pile up under the desk but sometimes left in the hallways for pickup. these hallways were nonpublic, but this is no way to deal with sensitive information. in her report, the marshall of the supreme court launched a plan. for this particular like that so rocked the court and the nation all comess too late. ariane de vogue, cnn, washington. he's about to leave, saying good-bye to the country and continent. this ends the pope's visit to africa. earlier the pontiff celebrated mass with the faithful, and we'll have more on the visit in just a few minutes. know when it's time to go into protect mode.
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we're getting reports of new russian strikes in ukraine today. ukrainian officials say russian shelling and missiles hit multiple strikes in the donetsk region, killing four people and leaving 11 others wounded. earlier ukraine also said a search and rescue operation was underway. earlier ukraine's president warning the grueling war against russia isn't getting any easier. here he is. >> translator: over the 346 days of this war i have often said the situation at the front is tough and that the situation is getting tougher. now it is such a time again, the time when the occupier's throwing more and more of its forces at breaking down our defense. >> meanwhile zelenskyy thanked
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prime minister rishi sunak for sending the tank crews. meanwhile canada says the tanks it promised ukraine are already on the way. canada's defense minister posted this video of the leopard tanks being loaded on transport planes. on saturday portugal was the latest to pledge a campaign to send a defense air system in the spring. and ukraine says more than a dozen of its prisoners of war are back home after the latest prisoner exchange with moscow. russian state news agency says more than 60 russian troops were freed by ukrainians in a deal with the united arab emirates. ukraine says russia is building up its military reserves in the occupied still of mariupol. a thousand troops are there
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meaning more attacks in the east is just a matter of time. russia is turning up the pressure on other areas too. >> reporter: on various fronts in ukraine, the battlefield appears to be heating up. if you take a look at the south of the country especially around kherson, there's massive russian shelling going on the past couple of days, really the past couple of weeks. it has been intensifying. one person was killed in a flurry of attacks, mostly artillery used by the russians. there's a body of water between them and ukrainians, but they certainly are shelling that airy with a vengeance. very different situation in the east of the country with a battle for bakhmut, which has certainly been the most brutal in the past couple of weeks, getting more intense. they might be stabilizing the situation there.
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from what we've seen, ukrainians are moving some of their most battle-hardened units into place and that seems to be making ground. he said they're not going to be be giving up bakhmut and they're going to be fighting for every inch and they're not going to give up any territory without a massive fight. other places on the eastern front, there's also massive fighting going on. ukrainians certainly believe this very well could be at least a prelude to that massive russian offensive which both the u.s. and ukrainians have been expect. they're well entrenched. they said they need more western weapons to not only hold the line but go on the offensive as well. certainly that last batch of weapons coming from the united states is welcomed by kyiv. britain and the european union are hoping to inflict more pain on russia with more
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sanctions today. the uk is slapping a ban on insurance and other services, affecting maritime transport of russia's refiechbed oil products. for more, scott mclean is in london. take us through the new sanctions. >> reporter: this is essentially a price cap that has been agreed fwi u.s., the eu, g7, and australia, and it's in addition to the price cap that's been in place, capping the price there at $60 a barrel. this extends to refind oil products, things like diesel and gasoline that will be capped $15900 a barrel. the price takes into account the fact it's been upgrade and refined into a usable product. a treasury official -- american treasury official says, look, the goal is not to completely tank the russian economy. the goal is to make the kremlin have a choice between either propping up its economy or funding its war and it can't do
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both. the way that this is going to be enforced is through shipping. so essentially western ships are not going to be able to carry these russian oil products if they've been purchased above the caps and insurance companies will not be able to provide insurance on the ships. what it does not do is prevent any third party from purchasing the oil, though, given a lessened demand for russian oil t price is falling. it typically trades around the same price, give or take a few cents, but as of late, russian oil is trading at a discount of more than 30%. now, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has pushed in the last week for them to push for more sanctions. the russian economy was forecast to actually grow slightly this year, though, in response the european commission president
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said this. listen. >> today russia is paying a heavy price as our sanctions are eroding its economy, throwing it back by a generation. the price cap on crude oil already costs russia around 160 million euros a day, and we'll keep upping the pressure there. >> the price cap has been in place since december. this latest price cap goes even further than that. she also pledged there would be a european sanctions package, this one coming in time for the one-year anniversary, targeting the trade and technology that is behind russia's war effort, saying that it will have an impact to the tune of some $11 billion. kim? >> all right, we'll see. scott mclean, thanks so much. appreciate. it for the fifth straight weekend, thousands proef testers
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filled the streets across israel. this was the scene in tel aviv. thousands protested in other cities. protesters object to the right winged government of prime minister benjamin netanyahu and a series of changes. they demonstrated again this weekend. dozens of wildfires are burning in chile and the weather isn't phs. temperatures are in excess of 100 degrees fahrenheit or 40 degrees celsius and high winds are fanning the flames, and an area the size of philadelphia has already been charred as the amount of human lives has increased. pakistan's most
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she hbaz sharif has died. he was in dubai where he lived for several years in self-imposed exile. he led pakistan at the start of the u.s. invasion in afghanistan. for more on this, we're joined from islamabad. a controversial figure who had a complex relationship with the u.s. how is he being remembered? >> reporter: kim, controversial relationship, complex relationship with the united states, and a very complicated legacy here in pakistan. many people here came of age post-9/11. the youth of this country remembers that fateful night in 1999 when sharif came to power when soldiers crossed over into the bilbuildings of islamabad a
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it was at a time when he really strengthened his relationship with the united states. it was at the right time. he said in his memoir that he wrote that u.s. threatened to bomb pakistan into the stone age if sharif did not ally himself within the united states. he leaves behind a very bloody legacy, yes. media strengthened during his assignment. it was that media that went on to criticize his long term in office. he weakened democracy. yes, he went against the jihadist program but it also had a retaliation with the country and that's something the country is still reeling from still. only earlier this week we had a bloody attack. that's a legacy that still lives
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on. musharraf was praised. he does have admirers for being more liberal. but, again, it wes ooh a pinch of salt they gave a lot of aid to asit them in their war on terror and on their efforts in afghanistan. so a very complicated legacy, something that isn't going to be forgotten very, very soon. we have sharif, the current prime minister, who has con doled the family. you have the former prime minister who was ousted in that cause that took place in 199et. so we're waiting to see where his funeral will take place, whether it will be in dubai, whether his body will be allowed to come back to pakistan. we'll have to wait in the coming hours for the answers to those questions. kim? >> we'll come back to you if we get more.
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we appreciate it. after a rapt rorous event i south sudan, the pope is leaving africa. earlier sunday the pontiff celebrated mass with the faithful in the capital. on saturday he met with some of south sudan's millions of internally displaced people, and as he's done throughout the trip, he called for a rejection of violence and all conflict. a special blessing was given by the pontiff and two other leaders. he was presented along with others. that wrap this hour of "cnn newsroom." i'm kim brunhuber. i'll be back after a quick break with more news. please do stay with us.
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